During the game's nights, everyone with a night choice sends a PM to me. Nights will be brief - 3 days, even over a weekend. I expect people to keep up. You may send a night choice in advance, so that if I don't receive anything later, it defaults to that. Do not expect a confirmation or flavour role unless you're a role which normally receives confirmation.
In the "morning" I will announce the events of the night.
During the daytime you discuss and vote to kill someone. As of the beginning of the day, the lynch threshold is equal to the number of players alive. Every 24 hours, the lynch threshold decreases by one. If the lynch threshold decreases and suddenly makes 2 outcomes active, the one with that many votes for the longest will win.
In any instance of death, I will reveal the character name, the literary source that the character is from and their alignment and type line. Town players will be in green, mafia members in red and all others in blue
i.e. AbbeyGargoyle, AbbeyGargoyle Homelands the Book, ModGod.
Under no circumstance are you allowed to show any E-mails/PMs from others or me. No mod-quoting. At all. If there are questions on this, PM or IM me FIRST. I will allow more than I will forgive.
Do not edit or delete your posts, or add any attachments or links to areas of the internet you have control over. Not even to fix BB Code. Not even lightning editing. Double or triple posting is preferred.
Do not post invisi-text, or game related information in signatures, avatars or custom titles. Even if you've claimed it. This is not Matrix Mafia.
Please do not discuss this game via Instant Messenger, E-mails or IRL... (Unless you are part of a group, and then only when it is allowed.)
If you are dead, you are dead. You may join the spectators forum if you wish. Do not post any information afterwards. That goes for anybody with specialist knowledge of the setup or game.
The moderator is always right; you may not like it, but mods put a lot of effort in creating and moderating the game and their decisions are final. If a player or spectator notices anything that looks wrong, PM me. Do not post in the thread to say you're pming me.
Votes must be in bold and of the format Vote: AbbeyGargoyle. If you revote, an unvote for your previous vote is understood - you do not have to unvote unless you wish to refrain from voting at that time. Votes in quotes are not counted as votes.
Once the lynch threshold is reached, that person gets lynched. No amount of unvoting on your part can change that. You may continue to discuss during twilight while the lynch scene is prepared but you may not post at night. The night arrives when a mod posts that it is night. I will not be very forgiving on this.
You may vote to not lynch anyone. A majority of vote:no lynch votes will end the day without a lynching.
Any player may vote for themselves. This causes an instant lynch and will send the game to night. To reiterate (and this is your only warning): voting for yourself is suicide.
Townie Win Condition:
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The Travelers Grakthis Diggy Azrael charm master
DYH
Niv Cubus
Vampyr
Pod DragonDart Jobie Cyan fadeblue Hawkeye7 carrion pigeons StormBlind Kraj
Wrath of Dog Wuffles II JSexton
ZasZ234
~Tilde~ jerubbaal GiftsTrix
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Ged
Sutherlands
J-Effe IV
IH
Apokalypse Kid
AlphaInsidious
Alx2
loran16
Xyre
Dagger (December at the earliest)
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The Previous Evening “My son, there are no more eligible males in the whole kingdom to send to the Empress tomorrow. You know ever since she caught her no-good Egyptian husband with the Princess of Turkey she goes through them at an alarming rate. I will surely lose my head over this.”
“Not to worry about that father, I will go myself to the Empress.”
“What do you mean? I know your great grandmother Shahrzad managed to entertain a previous Sultan, but she exhausted every story known.”
“She may have for her time, but I have an excellent one myself. Besides, the Empress would call for me out of anger before taking your head anyways.”
That Morning…
“What are you doing here? The vizer said that he was sending someone special, but I hardly expect you AbbeyGargoyle.”
“Well madam, I am the best in all of the Kingdom for your Majesty. I have a story of murder, violence and intrigue fit for an Empress.”
“Really now? You have piqued my interest for certain. Please begin…”
So I began the tale which will last until the night, “Since the dawn of civilization, there has been literature. However, everyone has been captivated by characters from various authors and epochs.”
“Oh, yes, I love many stories from all over the world.”
“Well my story will have many, many diverse characters, but as your highness knows, Good and Evil are relative terms. However, the only constant is that those on both sides of the divide die but is remembered by people for generations to come. The first thing that you should know is that Axelrod is dead. Dead as a doornail.”
“Ooo…already someone dead, this story shows much promise.”
“Well he is not important to this story, but he is dead. Just like in most mafia games here, he’s done before he could even get started…”
The Travelers
Grakthis
Azrael
charm master
DYH
Niv
Cubus
Vampyr
Pod
DragonDart
Jobie
Cyan
fadeblue
Hawkeye7
carrion pigeons
StormBlind
Kraj
Wrath of Dog
Wuffles II
JSexton
ZasZ234
~Tilde~
jerubbaal
GiftsTrix
The Dead
Axelrod, Colonel Cecil Burleigh Essex (Colonel Essex), Pudd’nhead Wilson, Irrelevant Balancer
Ok, before random votes start, I would like to request that anyone wanting to vote for me post an FoS. I have a serious drawback to my role, and well, as far as i know it takes two votes to lynch me. anyone wishing to vote for Niv, post an FoS, then, I will keep a tally. If ever a majority of the town wants me dead, i will self vote, and we move on from there.
Okay, so we have a maximum of 3 weeks or so to find a good lynch. If ever there was a game where a soft claim early on was a good one, this would be it.
Let's just get past that whole random voting thing, and you can all vote me out of suspicion for recommending it now.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Also, the town would benefit from a cop inspection on me, if possible, and as soon as possible.
This is going to be a good game.
I imagine it wouldn't be very dangerous for the cop to target you CP. If I/he turns up dead as an immediate consequence, then the town would know what to suspect. So a gambit's probably not a huge hazard here.
Vote Grakthis for not lynching dagger scum when I handed him the chance.
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It's almost like CP is asking to get lynched, not for the soft claim Idea, but the cop direccting. but this entire thing is Wifom. I really just don't get it.
I don't have any information to suggest that one soft claim is any better than any other. But I think this game would be a good one to do it in, since the town cannot afford to be as leisurely as normal in collecting info from wagons.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
There may be much going on on the first pages, but nothing useful.
I personally don't think there is any use in introducing ourselves - the theme of the roles is obvious from Abbey's post and axel's cold body.
We even have a disclaimer that "Good and Evil are relative terms": Sinners may be saints in this setup, so what are we going to look for? The best we could hope for is not revealing a role name with the highest academic degree.
I am all for playing the game as if there was no flavour at all, which means voting for the guy with the bad ideas. vote: carrion pigeons
I don't know what you think, but claiming is a time consuming process - often interfering with other more important subjects like reading people. I can easily see that as a ploy to waste the limited ressources of the town with analysing flavour and in the process doing the job of the scum.
Hmm. Because I'm probably not the only person to spot it, noting publically that Zasz probably just activated an ability on the sly.
Speaking of, today I'm supposed to reveal that I'm Big Brother.
There may be much going on on the first pages, but nothing useful.
I personally don't think there is any use in introducing ourselves - the theme of the roles is obvious from Abbey's post and axel's cold body.
We even have a disclaimer that "Good and Evil are relative terms": Sinners may be saints in this setup, so what are we going to look for? The best we could hope for is not revealing a role name with the highest academic degree.
I am all for playing the game as if there was no flavour at all, which means voting for the guy with the bad ideas. vote: carrion pigeons
I don't know what you think, but claiming is a time consuming process - often interfering with other more important subjects like reading people. I can easily see that as a ploy to waste the limited ressources of the town with analysing flavour and in the process doing the job of the scum.
CP's idea is not a bad idea at all, under the circumstances. Of course, you could just be hoping to drag things out by creating a debate about the claim first, before said claim even happens.
In order to prevent that, I'll claim now. I'm the White Witch from the Chronicles of Narnia.
Hmm.... Some rather interesting developments early in the game. One who wants to draw the cop onto himself (Carrion Pigeon), one who fears for his life (Niv) and two who come out and claim to be roles that seem rather sinister (Cyan and Azrael).
I sense a bunch of safe claims being put out there...
Gaze of Suspicion on Azrael and Cyan... You are being a disruptive influence on the town.. I shall have to monitor you closely.
Good grief this game is already making my head spin.
Thinking out loud about the mass claim idea...
If the solution to a restrictive time limit on day 1 is a mass soft claim, what will the solution be on day 2, when the time limit is even shorter? Are we going to push for more mass claims every time the discussion stalls? I can see the reasoning but it feels like an overreaction.
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Good grief this game is already making my head spin.
Thinking out loud about the mass claim idea...
If the solution to a restrictive time limit on day 1 is a mass soft claim, what will the solution be on day 2, when the time limit is even shorter? Are we going to push for more mass claims every time the discussion stalls? I can see the reasoning but it feels like an overreaction.
Slippery slope argument. A soft name claim now is a good idea for a variety of reasons, it cuts back on the scum's options and this time has an unusually high chance of nailing folks. An ability claim is a signficantly different animal, especially on later days, after the scum have had a chance to gauge game balance and get creative with their false claims.
Although, I really would like to break out the day one gradual full-claim someday, and see where it gets us. Likely not in an Abbey game, though.
@ZasZ: DATBF is MiseTings speak for "dorking around to be funny" (I've made it rated G, here, but you get the point). So, yeah, it's the joking, random phase of the game before people get serious.
I also don't like your aggressive response to Azrael. It was pretty obvious he was referring to one of two things - he wasn't being snarky about it at all.
I personally don't like the "I have seen something, but I don't tell you what exactly I'm speaking of"-maneuver. It's stirring paranoia and when you do it to a townie power role, you just have brought the attention of the scum on it.
But you probably know that already, so why did you do it in the first place?
*eyebrow*
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There has yet to be a game, where I'm not called on using smileys... But with the current trend the next time it'll have to happen during the sign-ups.
EP: Just removed my soft claim, but I can tell you it is sinister - more sinister then anything you have seen vlaimed or anyone else here will claim (I suppose), but it's still town, so ~, you can stop your flavour speculation - as I already said in my first post: flavour may give a hint at the ability, but not at the alignment (therefore soft claim helps scum, but not town).
But I agree that Az and Cyan are "disruptive" in a way with claiming roles - such a behaviour can easily cause an avalanche and to much information revealed.
"nevermore... will I reveal info until I'm in claim range"
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During the daytime you discuss and vote to kill someone. As of the beginning of the day, the lynch threshold is equal to the number of players alive. Every 24 hours, the lynch threshold decreases by one. If the lynch threshold decreases and suddenly makes 2 outcomes active, the one with that many votes for the longest will win.
I can tell you for certain that, at least in my case, my role has absolutely nothing to do with my rolename. And while it's somewhat gaming the Mod, I really doubt that AG is going to make a bunch of really obvious role/rolename connections.
Anyway, Vote Pod
Pod's post # 44 is all just one huge chunk of fearmongering.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Cause it's not like a rolename claim in Abbey's last game would have outed both masons and the doctor or anything. No, Abbey would never do anything that obvious.
Tsk tsk, what a defensive response. Good job of ignoring the overall point that I was making, too. Additionally, just because someone made a mistake in the past doesn't mean they're going to make it again.
I don't really see the point of the name claims. I mean, I realize we had a deadline, but how does name claiming help that? I'll do it if someone can give me a reason stronger than "day is short."
I mean, the day is not actually short. We have like 2 weeks before the deadline method becomes relevant.
Do the math on it people. 23 players. It takes 11 days before we get to the point where half the town is a lynch.
This seems to be a lot like the panic that ensued in the initial stages of 24 mafia. I really wish people would stop randomly spewing information into the thread though. If we're going to soft claim anything, it ought to be after we've discussed the merits of it as a group, not before at will.
During the game's nights, everyone with a night choice sends a PM to me. Nights will be brief - 3 days, even over a weekend. I expect people to keep up. You may send a night choice in advance, so that if I don't receive anything later, it defaults to that. Do not expect a confirmation or flavour role unless you're a role which normally receives confirmation.
In the "morning" I will announce the events of the night.
During the daytime you discuss and vote to kill someone. As of the beginning of the day, the lynch threshold is equal to the number of players alive. Every 24 hours, the lynch threshold decreases by one. If the lynch threshold decreases and suddenly makes 2 outcomes active, the one with that many votes for the longest will win.
In any instance of death, I will reveal the character name, the literary source that the character is from and their alignment and type line. Town players will be in green, mafia members in red and all others in blue
i.e. AbbeyGargoyle, AbbeyGargoyle Homelands the Book, ModGod.
Under no circumstance are you allowed to show any E-mails/PMs from others or me. No mod-quoting. At all. If there are questions on this, PM or IM me FIRST. I will allow more than I will forgive.
Do not edit or delete your posts, or add any attachments or links to areas of the internet you have control over. Not even to fix BB Code. Not even lightning editing. Double or triple posting is preferred.
Do not post invisi-text, or game related information in signatures, avatars or custom titles. Even if you've claimed it. This is not Matrix Mafia.
Please do not discuss this game via Instant Messenger, E-mails or IRL... (Unless you are part of a group, and then only when it is allowed.)
If you are dead, you are dead. You may join the spectators forum if you wish. Do not post any information afterwards. That goes for anybody with specialist knowledge of the setup or game.
The moderator is always right; you may not like it, but mods put a lot of effort in creating and moderating the game and their decisions are final. If a player or spectator notices anything that looks wrong, PM me. Do not post in the thread to say you're pming me.
Votes must be in bold and of the format Vote: AbbeyGargoyle. If you revote, an unvote for your previous vote is understood - you do not have to unvote unless you wish to refrain from voting at that time. Votes in quotes are not counted as votes.
Once the lynch threshold is reached, that person gets lynched. No amount of unvoting on your part can change that. You may continue to discuss during twilight while the lynch scene is prepared but you may not post at night. The night arrives when a mod posts that it is night. I will not be very forgiving on this.
You may vote to not lynch anyone. A majority of vote:no lynch votes will end the day without a lynching.
Any player may vote for themselves. This causes an instant lynch and will send the game to night. To reiterate (and this is your only warning): voting for yourself is suicide.
Townie Win Condition:
The Travelers
GrakthisDiggyAzrael
charm master
DYH
Niv
Cubus
Vampyr
Pod
DragonDart
Jobie
Cyan
fadeblue
Hawkeye7
carrion pigeons
StormBlind
Kraj
Wrath of Dog
Wuffles II
JSexton
ZasZ234
~Tilde~
jerubbaal
GiftsTrix
Replacements
Ged
Sutherlands
J-Effe IV
IH
Apokalypse Kid
AlphaInsidious
Alx2
loran16
Xyre
Dagger (December at the earliest)
Players in bold have confirmed
I do not have a role PM.
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I shall be watching this thread for further developments. Good day to you all.
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Had to do that in pregame beacuse doing it ingame is a suiciude
Oh i mean /confimmrm
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“My son, there are no more eligible males in the whole kingdom to send to the Empress tomorrow. You know ever since she caught her no-good Egyptian husband with the Princess of Turkey she goes through them at an alarming rate. I will surely lose my head over this.”
“Not to worry about that father, I will go myself to the Empress.”
“What do you mean? I know your great grandmother Shahrzad managed to entertain a previous Sultan, but she exhausted every story known.”
“She may have for her time, but I have an excellent one myself. Besides, the Empress would call for me out of anger before taking your head anyways.”
That Morning…
“What are you doing here? The vizer said that he was sending someone special, but I hardly expect you AbbeyGargoyle.”
“Well madam, I am the best in all of the Kingdom for your Majesty. I have a story of murder, violence and intrigue fit for an Empress.”
“Really now? You have piqued my interest for certain. Please begin…”
So I began the tale which will last until the night, “Since the dawn of civilization, there has been literature. However, everyone has been captivated by characters from various authors and epochs.”
“Oh, yes, I love many stories from all over the world.”
“Well my story will have many, many diverse characters, but as your highness knows, Good and Evil are relative terms. However, the only constant is that those on both sides of the divide die but is remembered by people for generations to come. The first thing that you should know is that Axelrod is dead. Dead as a doornail.”
“Ooo…already someone dead, this story shows much promise.”
“Well he is not important to this story, but he is dead. Just like in most mafia games here, he’s done before he could even get started…”
The Travelers
Grakthis
Azrael
charm master
DYH
Niv
Cubus
Vampyr
Pod
DragonDart
Jobie
Cyan
fadeblue
Hawkeye7
carrion pigeons
StormBlind
Kraj
Wrath of Dog
Wuffles II
JSexton
ZasZ234
~Tilde~
jerubbaal
GiftsTrix
The Dead
Axelrod, Colonel Cecil Burleigh Essex (Colonel Essex), Pudd’nhead Wilson, Irrelevant Balancer
It is Now Day 1 It will take 23 to lynch
also, Random Vote ~
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Based on what Niv's saying above, I'll just not random vote this game. It doesn't carry much purpose anyway.
Goodnight, I'm sleepy.
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Let's just get past that whole random voting thing, and you can all vote me out of suspicion for recommending it now.
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I need to check something with the mod as well. My PM wasn't entirely clear on a certain point. May or may not be relevant.
This is going to be a good game.
I imagine it wouldn't be very dangerous for the cop to target you CP. If I/he turns up dead as an immediate consequence, then the town would know what to suspect. So a gambit's probably not a huge hazard here.
and this is some interesting D1 develoments.
Vote Grakthis for not lynching dagger scum when I handed him the chance.
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Funny, how we're 11 posts into the day and we've already got a partial claim, a cop direction and a soft claim request. Wow...
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Hmm. Because I'm probably not the only person to spot it, noting publically that Zasz probably just activated an ability on the sly.
Speaking of, today I'm supposed to reveal that I'm Big Brother.
@Az: you referencing the smiley or the sin?
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CP's idea is not a bad idea at all, under the circumstances. Of course, you could just be hoping to drag things out by creating a debate about the claim first, before said claim even happens.
In order to prevent that, I'll claim now. I'm the White Witch from the Chronicles of Narnia.
I sense a bunch of safe claims being put out there...
Gaze of Suspicion on Azrael and Cyan... You are being a disruptive influence on the town.. I shall have to monitor you closely.
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
Thinking out loud about the mass claim idea...
If the solution to a restrictive time limit on day 1 is a mass soft claim, what will the solution be on day 2, when the time limit is even shorter? Are we going to push for more mass claims every time the discussion stalls? I can see the reasoning but it feels like an overreaction.
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Slippery slope argument. A soft name claim now is a good idea for a variety of reasons, it cuts back on the scum's options and this time has an unusually high chance of nailing folks. An ability claim is a signficantly different animal, especially on later days, after the scum have had a chance to gauge game balance and get creative with their false claims.
Although, I really would like to break out the day one gradual full-claim someday, and see where it gets us. Likely not in an Abbey game, though.
The sin. No cheshire cat hijinks that I'm aware of.
At any rate, I think I have a good idea why the rather singluarly odd part of my PM is in there, now. Abbey's trying to get me bastard-mod lynched.
vote ~Tilde~
I also don't like your aggressive response to Azrael. It was pretty obvious he was referring to one of two things - he wasn't being snarky about it at all.
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What.. you're being forced to claim something that isn't true there Azrael?
Note to self: Your mafia theories are usually wrong, so don't act on them.
*eyebrow*
Hypocritical??
Let's just say I have a vaguely worded incentive to say certain things.
I'm not human, and you can quote me on this:
"nevermore... will I reveal info until I'm in claim range"
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Anyway, Vote Pod
Pod's post # 44 is all just one huge chunk of fearmongering.
So, I take it everyone has a scummy rolename?
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Tsk tsk, what a defensive response. Good job of ignoring the overall point that I was making, too. Additionally, just because someone made a mistake in the past doesn't mean they're going to make it again.
I mean, the day is not actually short. We have like 2 weeks before the deadline method becomes relevant.
Do the math on it people. 23 players. It takes 11 days before we get to the point where half the town is a lynch.
Cyan: So what is your overall point? That Pod cautioning against a soft claim is fearmongering?
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