Oh, I forgot about that post. I agree, that claim does seem like an appropriate ability for an SK to have. It doesn't explain why he has to vote in blue, either.
I think Spoon should explain about the Blue. And people should not be guessing as to what it might be either.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Whoa, who forgot that Spoon's claim makes sense for scum? I didn't!
Puzz-dude, I totally agree that AG might be scum? And I have used the circumstance to clear myself of being SK, not mafia. Obviously I am totally not "cleared" of being mafia, which I said before. You are stinking of trying to tie people into stuff, dude.
And you need to answer the question, and answer it well. And the question, man, is this:
Why tell the scum where to send their flowers?
Because that was totally bogus.
And the second question is:
Your role's been public for a while, why didn't you get flowers already?
Because that makes like numero zero sense, unless the scum didn't know who they were looking for, but if they don't know who they're looking for WHY TELL THEM?
And I forgot the third question, but I'll totally get back to you with it after you answer my first two most excellent questions. DUDE.
Re: Alx's reaction to atlseal's claim: I can totally buy Alx's reaction as fake, though. I mean, everyone basically told him "that's stupid, dude, there's a difference between a name cop and a one-shot cop", so it wasn't much of an attack. And especially now we know how Alx's role works, I really don't see why he'd have that reaction for real. Like, majorly odd.
The wheels on the bus go round and round, except when the bus is rockin', then don't bother knockin' dudes.
I'm more sure that Hawkeye is scum than that Spoon is the SK.
I wish I had a $1.00 for each time you said this.
"None are so blind as those who, though they have eyes, will not see."
Since I made a self imposed deadline of tonight to reveiw the data and post anything I found, I will.
Cyan, better get ready to start taking Grak's advice like you said you would. Cause not for the first time you have been completely wrong. That is unless you are mafia, in which case congratualtions. I really don't think that you are though.
It's a pity it's been decided that I'm the lynch of the day a there seems to be productive discussion developing recently.
anyway, If I had an investigative ability, oddly no one really seems to in this game or thay are really bad at choosing targets, I would be looking right at Axelrod, ZDS, Alx and Grak.
Feel free to lynch me.
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If I unvote, Vote Hawkeye, do I still have to explain the blue vote?
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That was scummy, Dude. No one lynch anyone yet.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
You guys are seriously overreacting. On top of which, Hawkeye is 3 votes from lynch, COUNTING Spoon's vote. Sheesh.
Axel, you seem awfully bent on Hawkeye not getting lynched. You've refused to comment on my suspicion of him since like Day 2, when I had Dagger ask you about it. It's starting to make me wonder.
I am in no way bent on Hawkeye not getting lynched. I just haven't reviewed him right. I've been looking at other things. I fully well intend to give him a good once over before any decision is made though, and I am not looking forward to it either considering the length of some of those posts.
I'm surprised you apparently think nothing at all of the vote changing color. Or the way Spoon did what he did.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I had already guess that aspect of his vote, so it didn't surprise me. And I can really only think of one character that would have that, a character that A)no one would false claim and B)is heavily unlikely to be scum. So I really think you guys are overreacting. And apparently 'what he did' was nothing, since the vote is just red now. So..I'm not sure what you mean with that last bit, I guess.
I had already guess that aspect of his vote, so it didn't surprise me. And I can really only think of one character that would have that, a character that A)no one would false claim and B)is heavily unlikely to be scum. So I really think you guys are overreacting. And apparently 'what he did' was nothing, since the vote is just red now. So..I'm not sure what you mean with that last bit, I guess.
Ok, I think my penny also dropped. I more or less realized which character he is. I disagree however with the bolded part
I had already guess that aspect of his vote, so it didn't surprise me. And I can really only think of one character that would have that, a character that A)no one would false claim and B)is heavily unlikely to be scum. So I really think you guys are overreacting. And apparently 'what he did' was nothing, since the vote is just red now. So..I'm not sure what you mean with that last bit, I guess.
I understand who he is too but I can't see how that fits together with his whole "first ability that targets me fails" claim whatsoever.
I don't think that it excludes it from being scum either if my suspicions are correct.
I'm still in the dark about Spoon's character but seeing the vote count I agree that I overreacted to Spoon's vote. Unvote: Spoon, Vote: Hawkeye7 since there's apparently less people voting him than I was lead to believe.
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Reason for fade to target me = fade is suspicious of me and knows I'm not the cop, dude. fade kicked himself in the post-game of Court Mafia for not doing anything about me and DYH when he was suspicious of us.
I asked who people wanted to see dead most (which is like asking who do you want to lynch), but let me ask another question. A hypothetical. Let's say we lynch Hawkeye and he's town. Let's just say for sake of hypothetical.
With that information in mind, who would you want to go after next? You can do it the other way also - if Hawkeye is lynched and comes up scum who do you want next - but I'm more interested at this point in who you would look at if he came up town.
AG or Spoon, both of which are good candidates at the moment anyway.
It wouldn't really surprise me if, hypothetically speaking, Dagger's role could run communications with whomever he wants and target someone with the cake as well.
So, in addition to being able to perform a kill while using an ability, a player could also use multiple abilities at the same time as well within a single day? Isn't that stretching quite a lot? While I'll admit the validity of the first point since apparently Sin City was an Azrael's production as well, adding the second point to it seems like an overkill.
Speaking of the whole Xyre/atlseal thing, there's one thing bothering me. Why would atlseal take the spoon and lie about it? I mean, if we look at the case of AtlScum vs. XyreTown, atlseal basically committed suicide for zero gain.
He could have easily (a) refused the spoon, which meshed well with his previous play of expressing suspicions of Xyre, or (b) at the very least, tell the truth about taking the spoon.
Neither option a or b seem to be particularly hazardous for him, yes he chose suicide. What gives?
I absolutely could see the Merovingian using Dagger's style of commucation. He talks to anyone he wants, and can relay the messages of those them all to each other..if he wants.
Except that my role has absolutely nothing to do with cakes, orgasm-laced ones or whatnot.
@Dagger: I didn't say that you submitted a kill and two other actions on the same night. But being able to communicate as you do and submit one night action wouldn't be that surprising, I don't think.
@Dagger: I didn't say that you submitted a kill and two other actions on the same night. But being able to communicate as you do and submit one night action wouldn't be that surprising, I don't think.
I wouldn't know since the only ability I have is the "communication" thing.
Anyone else has double ability in which they could use both at the same time?
The Kid being Mafia totally means all bets are off as to who is scum and who isn't.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
The Kid being Mafia totally means all bets are off as to who is scum and who isn't.
If it's obvious, it's obvious enough to say, Spoonman. And if you don't want to say, why hint and maybe heinously screw us up?
I mean, I guess this one thing two thing red thing blue thing game is like, Morpheus, but it could also be Trinity. But, like, Trinity is meant to have bought the farm, and that reaper dude is a total cheat. And if he'd cheat to keep Bill, well, he'd totally heinously cheat to keep a babe like her. So I'm guessing it's "obviously" Morpheus.
But if it's obviously Morpheus, it's obvious enough to say. Cryptic hints are bad- they might heinously screw up the town, while the scum understand them. That's why cryptic hints are used by bogus dillweeds.
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Something just occured to me. Now that the CM thing has been cleared, do you all still need me to target him tonight?
YES WAY MA'AM!
The downside of your communication method is that you could alter whatever he passes on- but if he ever gets back in the thread, he could tell us that, so you wouldn't risk it. And he's totally the best person to tell us if Puzzle is bogus or not.
The downside of your communication method is that you could alter whatever he passes on- but if he ever gets back in the thread, he could tell us that, so you wouldn't risk it. And he's totally the best person to tell us if Puzzle is bogus or not.
I haven't alter a single thing that was sent through me at all thus far this game, and I doubt I would have any reason to do so, whether now or in the near or far future.
That is a fair point. Nothing really major has been said anyway. Though Dagger clearly could choose not to pass along certain PMs/parts of certain PMs, I doubt he has done so thus far.
Information that ought to be publically available to all parties:
The townie rolenames and titles in their role PMs were typed in blue.
The issue came up when a certain player, who ought to remain nameless and not identify himself or herself, requested permission to point this out. To avoid self-clearance, this information has been posted publically.
Spoon is not exactly gaining my confidence with these responses.
How about coming all the way clean, why don't you?
Also, did you say whether this "The first action to target me fails" ability works for both Day and Night, or is it just Night actions?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
I really have a hard time seeing Morpheus as mafia, even if The Kid was mafia. I could maybe see him as the SK, considering his claimed ability. I'm a little concerned that he already claimed, but neglected to tell us anything about his blue/red voting. Surely that has to mean something.
I'm not a Matrix knowledgable person, so I ask that you please bear with my Naivety on the subject. Which color pill did one take to enter the Matrix? And what did the other pill do if taken?
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I'm more sure that Hawkeye is scum than that Spoon is the SK.
Puzz-dude, I totally agree that AG might be scum? And I have used the circumstance to clear myself of being SK, not mafia. Obviously I am totally not "cleared" of being mafia, which I said before. You are stinking of trying to tie people into stuff, dude.
And you need to answer the question, and answer it well. And the question, man, is this:
Why tell the scum where to send their flowers?
Because that was totally bogus.
And the second question is:
Your role's been public for a while, why didn't you get flowers already?
Because that makes like numero zero sense, unless the scum didn't know who they were looking for, but if they don't know who they're looking for WHY TELL THEM?
And I forgot the third question, but I'll totally get back to you with it after you answer my first two most excellent questions. DUDE.
Re: Alx's reaction to atlseal's claim: I can totally buy Alx's reaction as fake, though. I mean, everyone basically told him "that's stupid, dude, there's a difference between a name cop and a one-shot cop", so it wasn't much of an attack. And especially now we know how Alx's role works, I really don't see why he'd have that reaction for real. Like, majorly odd.
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I wish I had a $1.00 for each time you said this.
"None are so blind as those who, though they have eyes, will not see."
Since I made a self imposed deadline of tonight to reveiw the data and post anything I found, I will.
Cyan, better get ready to start taking Grak's advice like you said you would. Cause not for the first time you have been completely wrong. That is unless you are mafia, in which case congratualtions. I really don't think that you are though.
It's a pity it's been decided that I'm the lynch of the day a there seems to be productive discussion developing recently.
anyway, If I had an investigative ability, oddly no one really seems to in this game or thay are really bad at choosing targets, I would be looking right at Axelrod, ZDS, Alx and Grak.
Feel free to lynch me.
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Vote: Spoon
That was scummy, Dude. No one lynch anyone yet.
I'm gonna have to agree with Axel on this one. There was no reason to put HE at lynch -1. Vote: Spoon.
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I don't see what was scummy about it at all, Axel. Hawkeye isn't lynched, so there's no real harm in what Spoon did, it was just unnecessary.
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Axel, you seem awfully bent on Hawkeye not getting lynched. You've refused to comment on my suspicion of him since like Day 2, when I had Dagger ask you about it. It's starting to make me wonder.
I'm surprised you apparently think nothing at all of the vote changing color. Or the way Spoon did what he did.
Yes. And in addition you have to explain the red vote.
Ok, I think my penny also dropped. I more or less realized which character he is. I disagree however with the bolded part
I understand who he is too but I can't see how that fits together with his whole "first ability that targets me fails" claim whatsoever.
I don't think that it excludes it from being scum either if my suspicions are correct.
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Totally not convinced, dude.
I am assuming the basis for such a statement is not BS then.
AG or Spoon, both of which are good candidates at the moment anyway.
So, in addition to being able to perform a kill while using an ability, a player could also use multiple abilities at the same time as well within a single day? Isn't that stretching quite a lot? While I'll admit the validity of the first point since apparently Sin City was an Azrael's production as well, adding the second point to it seems like an overkill.
Nope, that was J-effe's thing. And the mason is ZDS and the ability was watcher.
Precisely. Let's ask him after the game is over.
Except that my role has absolutely nothing to do with cakes, orgasm-laced ones or whatnot.
How about explaining the different colors now?
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I wouldn't know since the only ability I have is the "communication" thing.
Anyone else has double ability in which they could use both at the same time?
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With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch.
This is seriously messed up. I wanna play too. unvote abbeygargoyle, vote abbeygargoyle
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With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch.
Anyway, what happens next?
If it's obvious, it's obvious enough to say, Spoonman. And if you don't want to say, why hint and maybe heinously screw us up?
I mean, I guess this one thing two thing red thing blue thing game is like, Morpheus, but it could also be Trinity. But, like, Trinity is meant to have bought the farm, and that reaper dude is a total cheat. And if he'd cheat to keep Bill, well, he'd totally heinously cheat to keep a babe like her. So I'm guessing it's "obviously" Morpheus.
But if it's obviously Morpheus, it's obvious enough to say. Cryptic hints are bad- they might heinously screw up the town, while the scum understand them. That's why cryptic hints are used by bogus dillweeds.
YES WAY MA'AM!
The downside of your communication method is that you could alter whatever he passes on- but if he ever gets back in the thread, he could tell us that, so you wouldn't risk it. And he's totally the best person to tell us if Puzzle is bogus or not.
I haven't alter a single thing that was sent through me at all thus far this game, and I doubt I would have any reason to do so, whether now or in the near or far future.
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Everyone who have sent their PM through me so far feel free to post said PM within the thread to be confirmed or counterchecked by the others.
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No can do.
Can't do that, either.
That one I can manage. I'm Morpheus.
The real question is, are we going to press Spoon to find out what(if anything) happens depending upon the color of his vote?
Oh also, Spoon, can you just vote in the normal black color at all, or does it have to be blue or red?
How about coming all the way clean, why don't you?
Also, did you say whether this "The first action to target me fails" ability works for both Day and Night, or is it just Night actions?
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