Honestly, I think a mass-claim has the possibility of outing power roles, which is why I'm against it. Of course, it isn't really established that each character really has a house, so that mihgt be more infromation to give to the mafia that will be harmful. I'm against a claim like that at this point. The last point against the massclaim is that i trust sorry to make a game that's not that easily breakable.
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unvote chamber the nurse claim seems plausible for now.
2 mafia in any way would make this game unbalanced I think, especially if they couldn't kill each other. I'm thinking maybe a few of the people from each house are town, then unaffiliated are town, then i have no idea who's mafia. maybe the people from each house that were most opposed to the other house are mafia?
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Honestly, I think a mass-claim has the possibility of outing power roles, which is why I'm against it.
I agree with this, we don't want the doc or cop dying day one if the mafia can determine who they are by the names.
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unvote chamber the nurse claim seems plausible for now.
2 mafia in any way would make this game unbalanced I think, especially if they couldn't kill each other. I'm thinking maybe a few of the people from each house are town, then unaffiliated are town, then i have no idea who's mafia. maybe the people from each house that were most opposed to the other house are mafia?
I agree with this, we don't want the doc or cop dying day one if the mafia can determine who they are by the names.
Which is why I suggested that we simply claim Capulet / Montague / no house, without revealing our names.
Look I have no problem claiming my character name. I am indeed juliets nurse, my earlier claim was me being crafty. I still have no intention of claiming abilities. Even if both the capulets and montague are scum, my character was always more alligned with juliet then with the rest of the house.
I was pretty sure this was his real claim after that fake claim, no? If not then strike me down for misreading it, but if so, strike you down for not reading it
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2) Hey, it's Day 1, there wasn't a night before, we have to jump to conclusions.
This is bull****. First of all you also jumped to conclusions about me in magic, ie that my claim had to be false. Secondly there is no need to make rash judgements on day one just because its day 1, less information doesn’t mean you have to decide any faster.
3) I wouldn't be so condescending, if I knew what is condescending about what I say/how I say it. It has been said many times since I started playing Mafia I had a too condescending tone, but since I'm completely clueless about why people think that (ie : I'm not doing it on purpose), I can't really help it. Meh.
You are condescending in that you always assume you are right and that everyone will see everything your way and that those who don't are stupid or scum.
I'm not "trying to say the right thing as a townie", I know mass claiming house is not the right thing to do, unless you want to mislynch a bunch of townies for no reason and offer the mafia victory on a silver plate.
How do you know mass claiming house is the wrong thing? Just because the Montague or Capulet aren’t the only mafia doesn’t mean soft claims can't help the town. It forces the mafia into a smaller group of possible roles to claim.
Also, is there something wrong with trying to out neutrals? We don’t necessarily need to lynch them, but having them out in the open can only help us as the town.
It is very possible that Chamber made an honest error in assuming alignment could be guessed from house affilation (or lack thereof), in the same manner that Xyre thought Capulet and Montaigue were two mafias and non-affilated were the townies.
Where exactly did I assume that the town was all montague or capulet? I suggested it as a trap to see responses, but like the first reply was you saying I was wrong, so it killed the plan. I still suggested it as a possibility after that, but then you said that wasn't the case, so I, for now at least, will believe that.
I don't think LFR should full claim, especially since there's nothing against him.
You don’t seem to understand why LFR should be mass claiming. Its not so much that we think he’s scum, as that if he’s telling the truth the scum already know that he’s a pro town information role. That’s really all they need to know to want to off him. In this case him giving us more info about the setup can only really help the town. On the other hand if he’s lying it gives us a chance to catch him in a lie either now or in the future. In this case again its for the towns advantage he claims. Win-Win situation.
I'm leaning neutral towards mass claiming, though I'm still against it, as I expect the scum’s to either have mod-given false claims, or to be able to claim their real names/houses without any drawback.
Making this assumption is stupid. More often then not scum -can't- claim there roles as are in themed games. And even if they can here, just a house claim hardly gives away who’s what role. I can understand being anti-name claim though. In short there’s a possibility of forcing the scum to lie: ie if they can't claim there real roles. And even if they can there isn’t much foreseeable loss for the town.
Post 27 was the trap post. I suggest trying to trap the neutrals an sk with there lack of knowledge of which house was the scum. However in this post I made it seem that one of the def was scum, something a neutral wouldn’t know. If someone went along with what I said it would be likely they were talking out of their ass.
Since it was made rather obvious that the intent behind mass-claiming was to isolate and "catch" neutrals/scums, and since I knew there was no relation between house affiliation and alignment, I had to come out in order to prevent a possible error. Yes, I got carried away and thought too quickly, but I am still convinced that trying to catch non-townies with a mass claim this early was/is just a dumb idea.
Now, claiming in order to prevent false claims later on ? I don't see any problem with it. In fact, since there are so many people who have already claimed, I'll even claim Montague myself. A partial mass claim is much, much worse than a complete mass claim or no mass claim at all.
I geuss I assumed everyone knew all of the upsides to a mass soft claim when I proposed it. Locking in there future claims was always a desired outcome.
I must have missed what makes you assume he is a known information role. I have seen strong tells, but nothing definitive, and I would not like it if, after being forced to full claim, he started gathering votes for the only reason that he did not claim to have an information role. It would be at least better if he could simply say what he knows about the set up without having to full claim, or if there was some actual pressure on him for him to claim. To be honest, I'd rather keep my mouth shut than yell "hey, I've seen a cop tell !", especially since the long-run disadvantage of having him roleblocked to death (if he really is what you think he is) far outweights the short-run advantage of gaining some set-up knowledge.
He said he'll have more info tomorrow then he has today, isn’t this the definition of information role?
I think it is very unlikely that house claim will give away alignment, that there is a very strong possibility that at least one of the scums can reveal his real name without any problem, and that it is a fact that if a scum reveals his own scummy name, I will be completely unable to see this scummy name as scummy (for this reason I am jumping to the probably erroneous conclusion that most of the town is in the same situation as I am). Plus, giving away your name is just too dangerous anyway, it has a larger possibility of revealing town roles than of revealing scums.
So in short : house claim = yes as long as we don't use it to catch scum, name claim = no, other type of partial claim = depends leaning no, full claim = obv. not.
Only dyh has proposed a name claim, even if we do go through with it the full soft claim should come first. No one has suggested a full mass claim.
Either way, a name claim or a soft claim locks scum into something one way or another. The name claim obviously locks them into a set persona, while the soft claim locks them into a house or non-house. House claiming alleviates the concern of those that fear names are going to equate to roles. With that said, it's probably the better overall idea, and seems to have generated a couple positive responses (at least answers), anyhow. We should get this information from everyone today. I'll compose a list later.
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Juliet's nurse is his nameclaim, he never said his ability was that of a nurse :teach:.
I never said anything about thinking his claim was a role based claim, I said I believed his nurse claim. I meant name-claim and nothing more. Glad you read too deeply into that though.
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I'm Abraham, a Montague servant. However, I'm not really important in the grand scheme of things, so I have no abilities and a town alignment. My role in the play's rather irrelevant. I have on part where I fight with Sampson, the guy who hates Montagues, but other than that, nada.
Your the sole Montague behind the start of a fight, and yet you believe you wouldn't be included in a Montague mafia?
1) If you read the section I'm in, you'll realize Sampson's a jerk.
2) That's the only part I'm in.
3) I'm not even referenced ever again. Hence, I wouldn't be important enough to be part of that mafia. I figured the Motagues would be something like Montague himself and someone like Benvolio.
1) If you read the section I'm in, you'll realize Sampson's a jerk.
2) That's the only part I'm in.
3) I'm not even referenced ever again. Hence, I wouldn't be important enough to be part of that mafia. I figured the Motagues would be something like Montague himself and someone like Benvolio.
You've been playing horribly if that truly is your role , but you playing horribly isnt out of question. In short you're mafia or you've been playing poorly with your given info, imo anyway.
You've been playing horribly if that truly is your role , but you playing horribly isnt out of question. In short you're mafia or you've been playing poorly with your given info, imo anyway.
For thinking the mafia consists of people who are in my house?
Eh, maybe, but I don't think that's necessarily scummy.
You called me scum for simply being a member of the Capulets, yet you your self were a member of the Montague, and the one who started the fight that lead to the decree given in the signup thread no less. You're play so far just doesn't seem right to me.
You called me scum for simply being a member of the Capulets, yet you your self were a member of the Montague, and the one who started the fight that lead to the decree given in the signup thread no less. You're play so far just doesn't seem right to me.
I didn't realize you were a neutral role like the nurse at the time. I figured you were someone like Tybalt.
You told me I was being evasive when I brought up the point that I wasn't necessarily a character who was part of the blood feud. I’d also point out your character is very much part of it, even if not a major member of the house. This seems hypocritical.
You told me I was being evasive when I brought up the point that I wasn't necessarily a character who was part of the blood feud. I’d also point out your character is very much part of it, even if not a major member of the house. This seems hypocritical.
No, I think I said you were evasive in the way you were answering the question I posed. That idea is fine.
LFR: The wiki, the online edition I'm looking at, and my role PM say Abraham.
I didn't realize you were a neutral role like the nurse at the time. I figured you were someone like Tybalt.
You knew you were an active participant in the feud, yet here you say you attacked me because you thought I was an active participant. So you attacked me for being like you? But you are town arn't you?
Meh, I guess if everyone's doing it..
I'm Montague.
Not knowing too much about the play, I can't really evaluate Xyre's claim all that well but I wasn't too suspicious of him in the first place so I'm ok w/ it for now.
Um, chamber, I think you're being a little too aggressive. Just because the charcter someone's role is based on had a squabble with another minor character in the play, it doesn't necessarily mean that person is scum.
Um, chamber, I think you're being a little too aggressive. Just because the charcter someone's role is based on had a squabble with another minor character in the play, it doesn't necessarily mean that person is scum.
I haven't voted him. I just don't think his play is very consistant with his character, who is rather minor at that.
So a name-claim is enough to convince you of his townieness, or at least of the benefit of not keeping your vote on him?
Dude it's day 1, and he's claiming a role that doesn't look like it should be mafia. I don't have much to counter that yet, I backed off him because I feel that was enough pressure for then and that he would be locked into a role later if he actually has to claim. I don't see anyone else saying "ooh i'm the nurse not him he's scum!" so I have no reason to believe that he is falsifying that name.
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@ Chamber on #27 : It's a point that has already been made, but how could you expect your trap to work in the conditions you presented it ? ("you : hey, if there's a neutral, he will not know who are the mafia !" "neutral guy : yeah I'm so totally going to say I (don't) know who are the mafia [/sarcasm] !").
Anyway, what is done is done, we should move along now.
You still miss the point. In the post I declair that the montague and capulet are on opposing sides. Only the mafia at this point knew if it was true or not, but because of how I said it town should have known I was talking out of my ass. This leaves me telling the neutrals/sks that we were on opposing sides. So they didn't have to state which side was which, they only had to agree that they were on opposing sides to incriminate themselves.
I don't think I said the plan was likely to succeed, but had it, it would have given the town info. Even when it didn't succeed it didn't cost the town anything really, so I'd hardly call it a bad plan.
1. Roles that were feuding people in the play would be mafia I think. For some reason I don't think juliet's nurse would be killing people in the night.
2. Enough pressure meaning that the group had put enough pressure on him, and that name claiming is good enough for me, I wanted to focus on others that weren't juliet's nurse, maybe out someone like mercutio or tybalt. (the names that I think would be mafia)
3. Agreed. But see above about Juliet's nurse.
4. Wtf is an Ikerr?
Back at ya: Why are you going crazy and trying to openly critique every play that everyone makes?
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Unclaimed:
ZDS (thinks there are traitors in Montague - sub Capulet claim?)
LJustus
Fayul
Cyan
Infinity Cubed
Claimed Scum:
Kops723
Seriously, go back and look at the discussion around house claiming, and then Kops jumps right in with this nice big distraction which turns out to be nothing more than the prologue to the play. Then, when claims:
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Meh, I guess if everyone's doing it..
I'm Montague.
Not knowing too much about the play, I can't really evaluate Xyre's claim all that well but I wasn't too suspicious of him in the first place so I'm ok w/ it for now.
seems unhappy with doing so, and then sits nicely on the fence for Xyre.
@those unclaimed: Can you claim your house or at least state that you're still unwilling to comply?
Yeah, I actually voted Kops quite awhile ago. Just now getting around to the actual case. The original post that flagged for me was his one about mislynching chamber.
I have learned in the recent past to trust Cyan's analysis of situations. I'm going to treat this like a Puzzle Day 1 "find" and go with it just to see. (That's high praise for those watching at home.)
ZDS:Technically this is my first game, i'm in 2 games on wifom.net right now, but I have not finished any games yet so I suppose the answer is yes.
DYH: I still do not think that house claiming is the right thing to do, so you can put me on that list. Not sure if that's a newb thing to do, but it's what I think is right, so you can put me on that list if you like.
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I still think that houseclaiming is a monumentally stupid idea, but there's really little reason for me to hold back if everyone else is doing it.
Capulet.
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* Xyre bashes Chamber... in the head.
Can't tell you how much better that made me feel.
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2 mafia in any way would make this game unbalanced I think, especially if they couldn't kill each other. I'm thinking maybe a few of the people from each house are town, then unaffiliated are town, then i have no idea who's mafia. maybe the people from each house that were most opposed to the other house are mafia?
I agree with this, we don't want the doc or cop dying day one if the mafia can determine who they are by the names.
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but how would that help if there's mafia from both houses if they could claim someone unaffiliated?
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I was pretty sure this was his real claim after that fake claim, no? If not then strike me down for misreading it, but if so, strike you down for not reading it
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I Think my plan would have worked fine if you hadn’t said anything, but after you did I had to come out.
This is bull****. First of all you also jumped to conclusions about me in magic, ie that my claim had to be false. Secondly there is no need to make rash judgements on day one just because its day 1, less information doesn’t mean you have to decide any faster.
You are condescending in that you always assume you are right and that everyone will see everything your way and that those who don't are stupid or scum.
How do you know mass claiming house is the wrong thing? Just because the Montague or Capulet aren’t the only mafia doesn’t mean soft claims can't help the town. It forces the mafia into a smaller group of possible roles to claim.
Also, is there something wrong with trying to out neutrals? We don’t necessarily need to lynch them, but having them out in the open can only help us as the town.
Where exactly did I assume that the town was all montague or capulet? I suggested it as a trap to see responses, but like the first reply was you saying I was wrong, so it killed the plan. I still suggested it as a possibility after that, but then you said that wasn't the case, so I, for now at least, will believe that.
You don’t seem to understand why LFR should be mass claiming. Its not so much that we think he’s scum, as that if he’s telling the truth the scum already know that he’s a pro town information role. That’s really all they need to know to want to off him. In this case him giving us more info about the setup can only really help the town. On the other hand if he’s lying it gives us a chance to catch him in a lie either now or in the future. In this case again its for the towns advantage he claims. Win-Win situation.
Making this assumption is stupid. More often then not scum -can't- claim there roles as are in themed games. And even if they can here, just a house claim hardly gives away who’s what role. I can understand being anti-name claim though. In short there’s a possibility of forcing the scum to lie: ie if they can't claim there real roles. And even if they can there isn’t much foreseeable loss for the town.
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Post 27 was the trap post. I suggest trying to trap the neutrals an sk with there lack of knowledge of which house was the scum. However in this post I made it seem that one of the def was scum, something a neutral wouldn’t know. If someone went along with what I said it would be likely they were talking out of their ass.
I geuss I assumed everyone knew all of the upsides to a mass soft claim when I proposed it. Locking in there future claims was always a desired outcome.
Again 27 was the trap post. I thought the town would know I was lying in it, and that neutrals/sks would go along with it.
He said he'll have more info tomorrow then he has today, isn’t this the definition of information role?
Only dyh has proposed a name claim, even if we do go through with it the full soft claim should come first. No one has suggested a full mass claim.
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I never said anything about thinking his claim was a role based claim, I said I believed his nurse claim. I meant name-claim and nothing more. Glad you read too deeply into that though.
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If people still show support for a full claim from me, I will.
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1) If you read the section I'm in, you'll realize Sampson's a jerk.
2) That's the only part I'm in.
3) I'm not even referenced ever again. Hence, I wouldn't be important enough to be part of that mafia. I figured the Motagues would be something like Montague himself and someone like Benvolio.
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You've been playing horribly if that truly is your role , but you playing horribly isnt out of question. In short you're mafia or you've been playing poorly with your given info, imo anyway.
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For thinking the mafia consists of people who are in my house?
Eh, maybe, but I don't think that's necessarily scummy.
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Mind explaning that?
I didn't realize you were a neutral role like the nurse at the time. I figured you were someone like Tybalt.
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Harm. Odd. My Folger Shakespeare Library edition states that the name is Abram
No matter. It's probably of no importance anyway.
I do not belong to either house.
If thats the case your reaction to my exceptions such as juliet arguement still seems wrong.
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I said Juliet would be a character independent of house alignment (because she wants to be with Romeo), right? So what's wrong?
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No, I think I said you were evasive in the way you were answering the question I posed. That idea is fine.
I'm confused.
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You knew you were an active participant in the feud, yet here you say you attacked me because you thought I was an active participant. So you attacked me for being like you? But you are town arn't you?
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I'm Montague.
Not knowing too much about the play, I can't really evaluate Xyre's claim all that well but I wasn't too suspicious of him in the first place so I'm ok w/ it for now.
I haven't voted him. I just don't think his play is very consistant with his character, who is rather minor at that.
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Dude it's day 1, and he's claiming a role that doesn't look like it should be mafia. I don't have much to counter that yet, I backed off him because I feel that was enough pressure for then and that he would be locked into a role later if he actually has to claim. I don't see anyone else saying "ooh i'm the nurse not him he's scum!" so I have no reason to believe that he is falsifying that name.
Sorry you don't like my playstyle.
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You still miss the point. In the post I declair that the montague and capulet are on opposing sides. Only the mafia at this point knew if it was true or not, but because of how I said it town should have known I was talking out of my ass. This leaves me telling the neutrals/sks that we were on opposing sides. So they didn't have to state which side was which, they only had to agree that they were on opposing sides to incriminate themselves.
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
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2. Enough pressure meaning that the group had put enough pressure on him, and that name claiming is good enough for me, I wanted to focus on others that weren't juliet's nurse, maybe out someone like mercutio or tybalt. (the names that I think would be mafia)
3. Agreed. But see above about Juliet's nurse.
4. Wtf is an Ikerr?
Back at ya: Why are you going crazy and trying to openly critique every play that everyone makes?
/Official "White and Nerdy" Poster Boy of The Called\
Good Movie Mafia - Townie - Survived - Win
Mortal Kombat Mafia - Mafia - Lynched - Loss
Star Wars Mafia II - Townie - Exploded - Loss
Newbie Mafia 11 - Townie - Survived - Loss
Don't Fear the Reaper Mafia - Solo Mafia after day 1 - Survived - Win
Unluckyville Mafia - Townie - Survived - Win
View Askew Mafia - Townie - Survived - Win
Wow, what???
4-5ish people claim house, then I do it and its scummy??
Explanation please.
Claimed Capulet:
LookingForReality
Chamber (Juliet's Nurse)
Claimed Montague:
Xyre (Abraham)
Wrath_Of_Dog
Kops723
Claimed Unaligned:
DYH (Paris)
Ged
Unclaimed:
ZDS (thinks there are traitors in Montague - sub Capulet claim?)
LJustus
Fayul
Cyan
Infinity Cubed
Claimed Scum:
Kops723
Seriously, go back and look at the discussion around house claiming, and then Kops jumps right in with this nice big distraction which turns out to be nothing more than the prologue to the play. Then, when claims:
seems unhappy with doing so, and then sits nicely on the fence for Xyre.
@those unclaimed: Can you claim your house or at least state that you're still unwilling to comply?
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
So, Cyan, are you going to house claim?
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
vote: kops723
Claimed Capulet:
LookingForReality
Chamber (Juliet's Nurse)
Claimed Montague:
Xyre (Abraham)
Wrath_Of_Dog
Kops723
ZDS
Claimed Unaligned:
DYH (Paris)
Ged
Unclaimed:
LJustus
Fayul
Cyan
Infinity Cubed
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@ZDS: Sorry, I missed that in my look back for claims. Fixed.
@LJustus: Are you going to house claim?
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
DYH: I still do not think that house claiming is the right thing to do, so you can put me on that list. Not sure if that's a newb thing to do, but it's what I think is right, so you can put me on that list if you like.
/Official "White and Nerdy" Poster Boy of The Called\
Good Movie Mafia - Townie - Survived - Win
Mortal Kombat Mafia - Mafia - Lynched - Loss
Star Wars Mafia II - Townie - Exploded - Loss
Newbie Mafia 11 - Townie - Survived - Loss
Don't Fear the Reaper Mafia - Solo Mafia after day 1 - Survived - Win
Unluckyville Mafia - Townie - Survived - Win
View Askew Mafia - Townie - Survived - Win
Claimed Capulet:
LookingForReality
Chamber (Juliet's Nurse)
LJustus
Claimed Montague:
Xyre (Abraham)
Wrath_Of_Dog
Kops723
ZDS
Claimed Unaligned:
DYH (Paris)
Ged
Unclaimed:
Fayul
Cyan
Refusing:
Infinity Cubed
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@IC: Interesting. That's all right it is right now.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
Capulet.