I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
I looked at him on the wiki. He's got very little info on the guy other than the fact that he was the champion and that he was actually a member of the kolat (some sort of weird conspiracy group). Which makes me think he's rather unlikely to be in this game imo.
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Yeah... but with the clans that we have, i would imagine we probably have the champion from each clan...probably...it would be easy to be countered if he was scum, imo.
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
If the champions of all clans were in as the majority of the town we could break this one with a mass claim. I expect false claims provided.
The only thing that makes me slightly nervy on this is Pod's reaction, as Pod's job claim idea and subsequent defensiveness about it was iffy and I have my eye on him.
I don't like the CPE-wagon. It's too quick. I don't like how, of the three "serious" wagons we have had this far (loran, pibbly, cpe), only the death of cpe is truly and vocally supported. I don't like loran and rafK's (and to a lesser extent Pod's) attitude toward this, they are too eager to kill.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if CC could not actually day-kill.
Well, it would be hilarious if he couldn't.
Anyway, I'm more inclined to give CPE the benefit of the doubt on his claim. It isn't terribly unfeasible, and if CC doesn't have a day kill, then there's no point in wasting a lynch on CPE.
Hmmm... I dont like the fact at all the Puzzle seems to be able to vote without explination. It seems his voice caries a lot of weight (he is a good player) but this seems over the top.
CPE's bandwagon was entirely too fast. Right now, i think i believe CPE, at least until we get more information about this game. I also agree with ZDS, Loran is entirely too happy to Vig cpe. I still think Loran is the best choice, but no one else does.....
Pod's obsession with me is also rubbing me the wrong way. I don't like the fact that he still has not explained his initial reasoning for finding me scummy. I'm not really sure right now if he is an over zealous townie with the wrong idea, or an over zealous scum. I'm leaning towards town, but i could be wrong.
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I didn't say it was random, I said your wagons were baseless, which until you explain them, they are baseless to me and everyone else. As much as I would love to be...I'm not inside your head Puzz.
I'd also like to add that Unicorn is the most obvious vanilla clan : they have pretty much no magic, no duelling skill, nothing apart from cavalry, which is hard to translate into a mafia ability. CPE claims their champion of the time of the Coup. This claim actually makes a lot of sense.
I also don't expect the Mafia to have safe claims given the wide array available anyway (+ cf Axelrod's conclusion of ST Mafia). And even if they had some, I'd expect something more prestigious/intriguing than a Unicorn claim.
And I do think CPE's reaction to all this is townish.
Words out of my mouth...but just watch, people will listen to you although they have disputed with me.
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
Pod's obsession with me is also rubbing me the wrong way. I don't like the fact that he still has not explained his initial reasoning for finding me scummy. I'm not really sure right now if he is an over zealous townie with the wrong idea, or an over zealous scum. I'm leaning towards town, but i could be wrong.
Don't be too troubled. IMO, Pod seems to home into people a bit much in games. Well, actually, if you're scum you should be worried. Cuz you'll have to deal with Pod/Spoon for a while :-P.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Bet you that if somone else (Loran, say) had bandwagonned as reasonlessly as Puzzle you woulda been down on them like a ton of bricks. Instead, you tell Xyre that Puzzles actions are arcane and mysterious, only understood by him, as he obviously has some greater plan for the good of the town, which is somehow ok.
I was just doing what I had perceived Puzz to be doing. It wasn't meant to be outrageously serious. Unvote
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
Right now, I am loving the fact that CC said I wasnt participating much, then he disapears too. I think that my wagon was very fast, and deffinatly could be the work of scum. Right now I would probably say that loran is the person that I find to be most scummy, as his style seems different than him in a few other games (could just be he is scum in those x_x) also pod has seemed very strange to me so far. Fos: CC, Loran, Pod
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If I can't get cpe up, I'd be interested in pursuing ZDS on nothing more than his ability to run scared from his Puzzle vote the moment Puzzle asked him about it.
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Who do you think are the scums ? Scouting through the thread I failed to see you actually attack someone (or ask for clarification in an aggressive looking tone) or say you are suspicious of someone and why (your vote on loran was pure bandwagonning, and your vote on puzzle was "not serious"). Are you hiding your thoughts on purpose or do you not actually have thoughts ?
Gladly. I still think that what Rafk did without pressure is a mark against him. On Puzzle, I think that his 'different' playstyle in this game is the biggest point in his favor. I'd bet that he's a neutral if anything, with some odd win condition, they do seem to gravitate towards him...
My biggest suspect is Chamber...he's playing very badly, insisting that Puzzle is a good day 1 lynch just for being Puzzle, even claiming 100% seriousness on that to me. Seems to me that he latched on to the first player that appeared somewhat scummy to start a wagon on, to divert attention from himself and the rest of his scumfriends.
Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
Hmm. I'll hold it for now. Not liking the general acceptance of such an early vig.
Unvote, Vote loran
Unvote from wherever I'm voting (I think its on ZDS still).
Love you too CC. And IMO, an early vig gives us some information to go on day 1. Course now that i think about it, there havent been enough posts by CPE that vigging him this early would help us much if he's not scum. So i guess holding off is right.
Puzzle, this is getting strange.... You're like wagon happy on arimnaes...in a way thats bizarre. And yet no one is questioning you on this really.
Vote Puzzle.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Arim, can you please give us a good reason to not believe you are a filthy lurker ?
I took a bath as recently as yesterday, I'll have you know. But as to being a lurker, no, not really. Inasmuch as I haven't been posting much lately.
I do, however, take issue with Puzzle on this.
First of all, I don't feel like reading through mafia and making an intelligent post every time I'm online. So I'm somewhat annoyed that you would make statements like "I saw him on for a few minutes this morning and he didn't post!" or "I saw him on friday lunch time and he didn't post!" as if they meant something.
Second, posts in stuff like The Limerick Game and Ready Aim Fire take a bit less of a time commitment than ones for a mafia thread, wouldn't you agree? Frankly, I'm pissed off that you would assert that I lied about being busy out-of-game. Lying in-game is unavoidable if one is mafia, in fact, it's part of the game.
But lying out-of-game just makes one a liar, and I take offense at that assertion.
Finally, the above points aside, I intend to play this game at my own pace, not at yours. If you think I should be posting more, then you're perfectly entitled to hold that opinion. But don't expect me to post more simply to satisfy your expectations.
In short, I'll post when I'm good 'n ready.
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But the link you posted was in mod font. Why would a google search come up in times new roman, when you use Verdana? Which means you got the link off the mod, which means you're lying. I would go further with this, but the problem is that I'm wondering why you would actually bother to lie about something as trivial as this.
Possibly he copied it from another website, maybe he pasted a link and the text, maybe he simply copied the text and linked it. Seriously. It's too indefinite to be concerned about.
Read this :
then the dates on that : 4-5 posts per day on the site in these past few days.
That's characteristic of someone too busy to follow the game to you ? Additionally, I saw him online on Friday, lunch time and he didn't bother posting. It's only after I reported it that he made his "will be back later" post.
Puzzle, i was going to respond to this, but i think arimnaes did it nicely....posting on this site in certain pages takes little time; posting coherent mafia thoughts takes far more. And using that reasoning to hunt someone is dumb.
@Spoon-The puzzle vote was just to get an answer to the damn stupidness of puzzle's vote, which ended up being just as dumb as i thought it was. That said, considering the bizarre play, weird attacks for no justification, and everything, i wouldnt be unhappy with a puzzle lynch right now (or at least a pressure wagon :/). So i think i'll keep my vote where it is.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
But the link you posted was in mod font. Why would a google search come up in times new roman, when you use Verdana? Which means you got the link off the mod, which means you're lying. I would go further with this, but the problem is that I'm wondering why you would actually bother to lie about something as trivial as this.
Oh does it? I hadn't known that only the mods on one site on the entire internet are the ones that use Times New Roman...hey, I just used it on MICROSOFT WORD, that must mean I'm a mod!!!! Holy newfound power!
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The biggest thing that stuck out to me is that Xyre has been incredibly noncommital. He initially threw suspicion on RafK for somewhat dubious reasons (he said that he didn't think Hantei 39 would be in the game, and also said that he thought millers were never told they were millers.)
On the massclaim, he didn't give an initial opinion one way or another. When it became controversial, all he had to say on the subject was that it "might be beneficial, but might also be inherently suicidal." He's asked a lot of questions, but given few answers. Also, I'm not sure he's ever actually voted.
unvote, vote Xyre. My eye is still on ZDS, Loran and Pibbly. I can't get a read on chamber or AI, and I'm having trouble objectively analyzing Puzzle right now. CC, RafK, and Pod look good to me right now. CPE's behavior hasn't been great, but his claim seems fairly strong.
Huh. I just noticed something: Pod may not be that far off. It could be that ZDS, who does post in Times New Roman, was the one who gave Alpha the link.
On a more serious note,
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Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Seeing as the only person who knows for sure is him, I don't exactly know why you're answering this question before he has had a chance to do so. I personally don't think it's anything big either, and can myself come up with one amazing explanation that can explain it simply and easily, but I still wanted to see what his response was. Instead I get you answering a question I directly fielded specifically at him, which is really, really annoying. Plus, you saying that makes him look worse when he comes out with the same answer you gave, possibly makes him look like he was cribbing off your answer.
So you just made him look worse, robbed us of a read and annoyed me in one short post that you had absolutely no reason to make.
You're serious?
Look at it this way: there's no way, if he's scum, that you'll get an honest explanation from him. Indeed, he'd most likely say the exact thing I just said and you criticized. What would you expect? It's nigh-impossible to determine for sure who gave him the information or if he just got it himself, and right now, your pursuit of this looks fairly suspicious. Seriously, you're basing suspicions off his font. I understand how that could possibly prove something, but I'm thinking it doesn't.
Yeah, that's the one I thought of. Fair enough. I actually meant though that DYH is the one who uses it, not the site mods, implying that you got the result off him after you asked him for extra info or something. Guess I was just a little tied up in the relevance of fonts after CPE's claim. Pretty much the perfect answer from you there.
Heh, has noncommital become the buzzword for this game or something?
We're getting our suspicons cut too many ways too late. Xyre is, indeed, credible, though he's not really as bad as some others, scumwise.
Okay, I see, but as far as I can tell, DYH doesn't use Times New Roman; he uses Verdana.
For example, from DYH's last vote count:You have eight days remaining.
For comparison:
You have eight days remaining (Verdana)
You have eight days remaining (Times New Roman)
The only person in the game who does post in Times New Roman is ZeDorkSlipeur. The only way that makes sense is if they're able to talk at night (either mason or mafia) and AI copied a ZDS statement from a PM.
On Xyre : I actually think he has been very contentful so far, compared to his play in Magic Mafia. If time passes and he still doesn't take a real stance (after having been called on it), it will indeed be scummy.
On the fonts : My font is Georgia (comparison : This is Times New Roman). I don't get why you attach so much importance to such a futile thing.
My mistake. It's hard to differentiate serif fonts.
This discussion around fonts needs to cease immediately; it falls along the lines of discussing timestamps, etc. that Vecna has already disallowed. For everyone's benefit, yes, all PMs were sent in TNR format.
We are uncomfortably close to deadline without a clear way to proceed. I'm going to re-read tonight (at least the thread is quite short and much of it is spam) and see what I can dig up.
FWIW prior to my re-read I don't think CPE is cleared at all (any false claims would logically be in the same style as the real roles, and it's illogical to think that we can easily clear people based off role-names and that there's no false claims).
@alpha Although I already said I probably wouldn't follow through with such a lynch just because it seems unethical or something, I still feel I need to address your points about me and puzzle. I challenge you to point me to a game where he’s done better then average as town. I honestly can't remember any off the top of my head. Wait he did awesome as a replacement in lotr. Anyway my point is that puzzle is consistently freaking ridiculously good as scum, but on average rather mediocre as town, this alone makes him a better then average day 1 lynch (this is all based on my opinion if you disagree that’s fine but its the reason I acted the way I did.).
On more recent events: Why hasn't cc threatened pod yet?
@chamber: You're using my point...if he were mafia, which is the ideal lynch, it would seem that he would be playing ridiculously well...which he's not. If what you're saying is that because he's not necessarily good as a town player, and therefore should be killed, it's not even that it's 'unethical', it's just horrible town play. Why lynch someone who you suspect to be a bad town player, when you have a chance of killing someone else who could be scum...and even if that lynch is a townie, that gives you information on the wagon, etc... An example...in Seinfeld Mafia, when Loran was more or less universally thought to be town, although he played poorly in that game, no one wanted to lynch him, and screw with the ratio.
I'll direct you to a previous post of mine regarding this issue...
No, I'm definitely not ready to lynch Puzzle...yes he's acting strange...but that's the thing. Puzzle is an excellent player, and when he's mafia, he usually does a good job trying to hide it. I just don't see him acting 'scummy' as being indication of any guilt...
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HEY! IT WASNT MY FAULT I COULDNT VOTE IN SEINFELD AND THUS HAD TO RELY ON FOSES TO "VOTE" PEOPLE!!!! DONT BLAME ME FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS YOUR FAULT ALPHA!
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@chamber: You're using my point...if he were mafia, which is the ideal lynch, it would seem that he would be playing ridiculously well...which he's not. If what you're saying is that because he's not necessarily good as a town player, and therefore should be killed, it's not even that it's 'unethical', it's just horrible town play. Why lynch someone who you suspect to be a bad town player, when you have a chance of killing someone else who could be scum...and even if that lynch is a townie, that gives you information on the wagon, etc... An example...in Seinfeld Mafia, when Loran was more or less universally thought to be town, although he played poorly in that game, no one wanted to lynch him, and screw with the ratio.
I'll direct you to a previous post of mine regarding this issue...
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Note that I was pushing the puzzle thing as early as my FIRST POST. Puzzle was clearly not acting "less then ridiculous" yet, also your logic that he can’t be scum because he’s "less then ridiculous" is noted. I don’t personally consider much of anything puzzle has done to be bad play, most of it so far has been very sensible. I don't know weather to think you bad scum or bad town, I need to think about it.
Lastly, and most importantly, this kind of excuse about out-of-game activity (and comedy about ranting) has been used by !C! and Chamber and quite a few others before. In fact, it's even more popular on mafiascum and you've played there. I expect you to know this. Sorry if you feel offended that I think you may be doing the same, sorry for doubting you if you're sincere and sorry for forcing you to post but most of all, sorry for not buying this on blind faith.
To my knowledge I've never lied about how busy I was outside of a game to excuse lurking.
HEY! IT WASNT MY FAULT I COULDNT VOTE IN SEINFELD AND THUS HAD TO RELY ON FOSES TO "VOTE" PEOPLE!!!! DONT BLAME ME FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS YOUR FAULT ALPHA!
-Nuff said.
I wasn't referring to anything to do with the votes...I was referring to your claim very early in that game, which was what caused the players to call your play bad.
It's kind of strange to see Alpha defend Puzzle so much when he spent a quite considerable amount of time bickering with him.
I'm not defending him per se, I'm just responding to Chamber and trying to give reasons why I tend to think Puzzle town after thinking about it, keeping in mind his past play. Although I am disturbed by Puzzle's play (evidenced by bickering), I was just more disturbed by Chamber's earlier posts...lesser of two evils kind of thing.
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
Because I don't explain a vote doesn't mean it's random.
My comment was more about this sentence than you not actually explaining your vote. There were a couple of times where i would have like a better explination, but im too buisy to find examples and they are minor at best.
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Errr Confirm Vote on Puzzle. This is rediculous...You are bandwagoning to the point of saying so, even admitting you're voting the person you can get a consensus on.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Loran does have a point, in that Puzzle is bandwagoning, but I have a feeling that Puzzle's just being reckless. Considering the deadline, some action needs to happen, and at the very least, Puzzle is doing something.
Deadline is Saturday, October 28th, at 11pm ET. Reminder: 2. Deadlines will be set if necessary. The player(s) with the highest number of votes will be lynched at the deadline.
But he is bandwagoning so deliberately...I'll vote: Loran16
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
I am the pheonix clan's Master of the Void. I have the ability to lower a player's chi by 1 (ie opening the player up to the void for a moment). This has the potential of killing that player if their chi equals 0 (So chi values DO matter in that way.)
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
This claim works for me... Unvote It makes sense in the timeline that I looked up, and Isawa Kaede was even indirectly involved...she was engaged to the Lion Clan Champion, Akodo Toturi, until, after the Coup, the new Hanteii cast Akodo out as a ronin..
My one issue, and it's hardly an issue, is that the Phoenix clan is largely considered pacifist.
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
@ Arminaes: Alternatively, we could actually get some analysis on someone who might deserve it?
ANALYSIS What a FINE WORD. Why don't we use it for once....
How bout we go after the guy whose been blatantly bandwagoning without reasoning and will probably expose half of the power roles to the scum??
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Actually, so far we've got a vanilla and an extremely weak form of vig exposed, plus me. It would take loran most of the game to kill just me with that ability (remembering that this is a mini)
I think both cpe and loran are strong chances to be using "safe claim" rolenames. I don't like either of their claims.
RafK, id think that its a balence on the ability, to prevent the ability from being overpowered (vigs in mini games tend to be unbelievably swingy, so ive seen them limited much).
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Vig him CC. No need to waste the lynch.
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Pretty feasible actually...
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I looked at him on the wiki. He's got very little info on the guy other than the fact that he was the champion and that he was actually a member of the kolat (some sort of weird conspiracy group). Which makes me think he's rather unlikely to be in this game imo.
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The only thing that makes me slightly nervy on this is Pod's reaction, as Pod's job claim idea and subsequent defensiveness about it was iffy and I have my eye on him.
Certainly happy to see CPE get vigged, anyway.
Well, it would be hilarious if he couldn't.
Anyway, I'm more inclined to give CPE the benefit of the doubt on his claim. It isn't terribly unfeasible, and if CC doesn't have a day kill, then there's no point in wasting a lynch on CPE.
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CPE's bandwagon was entirely too fast. Right now, i think i believe CPE, at least until we get more information about this game. I also agree with ZDS, Loran is entirely too happy to Vig cpe. I still think Loran is the best choice, but no one else does.....
Pod's obsession with me is also rubbing me the wrong way. I don't like the fact that he still has not explained his initial reasoning for finding me scummy. I'm not really sure right now if he is an over zealous townie with the wrong idea, or an over zealous scum. I'm leaning towards town, but i could be wrong.
I didn't say it was random, I said your wagons were baseless, which until you explain them, they are baseless to me and everyone else. As much as I would love to be...I'm not inside your head Puzz.
Words out of my mouth...but just watch, people will listen to you although they have disputed with me.
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Don't be too troubled. IMO, Pod seems to home into people a bit much in games. Well, actually, if you're scum you should be worried. Cuz you'll have to deal with Pod/Spoon for a while :-P.
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"You have eight days remaining."
He reveals the tablet:
Vote Count*
ZeDorkSlipeur (3) - Creampuffeater, Loran16, Arimnaes
Pibbly (2) - Pod, Puzzle
Puzzle (2) - AlphaInsidious, ZeDorkSlipeur
Creampuffeater (1) - CropCircles
Loran16 (1) - Pibbly
Pod (1) - Chamber
With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Saturday, October 28th @ 11pm ET.
*It is my birthday and I am still recovering from a late night out. Someone may want to double-check this for accuracy.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
I was just doing what I had perceived Puzz to be doing. It wasn't meant to be outrageously serious. Unvote
-Alpha
Fair enough.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
I see no reason to move my vote from ZDS at the time.
More to come this evening, I've been a bit busy in the past few days.
Gladly. I still think that what Rafk did without pressure is a mark against him. On Puzzle, I think that his 'different' playstyle in this game is the biggest point in his favor. I'd bet that he's a neutral if anything, with some odd win condition, they do seem to gravitate towards him...
My biggest suspect is Chamber...he's playing very badly, insisting that Puzzle is a good day 1 lynch just for being Puzzle, even claiming 100% seriousness on that to me. Seems to me that he latched on to the first player that appeared somewhat scummy to start a wagon on, to divert attention from himself and the rest of his scumfriends.
http://www.l5rsearch.com/ here, off of a google search for it.
-Alpha
Unvote, Vote loran
[The Family]
Unvote from wherever I'm voting (I think its on ZDS still).
Love you too CC. And IMO, an early vig gives us some information to go on day 1. Course now that i think about it, there havent been enough posts by CPE that vigging him this early would help us much if he's not scum. So i guess holding off is right.
Puzzle, this is getting strange.... You're like wagon happy on arimnaes...in a way thats bizarre. And yet no one is questioning you on this really.
Vote Puzzle.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
I took a bath as recently as yesterday, I'll have you know. But as to being a lurker, no, not really. Inasmuch as I haven't been posting much lately.
I do, however, take issue with Puzzle on this.
First of all, I don't feel like reading through mafia and making an intelligent post every time I'm online. So I'm somewhat annoyed that you would make statements like "I saw him on for a few minutes this morning and he didn't post!" or "I saw him on friday lunch time and he didn't post!" as if they meant something.
Second, posts in stuff like The Limerick Game and Ready Aim Fire take a bit less of a time commitment than ones for a mafia thread, wouldn't you agree? Frankly, I'm pissed off that you would assert that I lied about being busy out-of-game. Lying in-game is unavoidable if one is mafia, in fact, it's part of the game.
But lying out-of-game just makes one a liar, and I take offense at that assertion.
Finally, the above points aside, I intend to play this game at my own pace, not at yours. If you think I should be posting more, then you're perfectly entitled to hold that opinion. But don't expect me to post more simply to satisfy your expectations.
In short, I'll post when I'm good 'n ready.
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Possibly he copied it from another website, maybe he pasted a link and the text, maybe he simply copied the text and linked it. Seriously. It's too indefinite to be concerned about.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Puzzle, i was going to respond to this, but i think arimnaes did it nicely....posting on this site in certain pages takes little time; posting coherent mafia thoughts takes far more. And using that reasoning to hunt someone is dumb.
@Spoon-The puzzle vote was just to get an answer to the damn stupidness of puzzle's vote, which ended up being just as dumb as i thought it was. That said, considering the bizarre play, weird attacks for no justification, and everything, i wouldnt be unhappy with a puzzle lynch right now (or at least a pressure wagon :/). So i think i'll keep my vote where it is.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Oh does it? I hadn't known that only the mods on one site on the entire internet are the ones that use Times New Roman...hey, I just used it on MICROSOFT WORD, that must mean I'm a mod!!!! Holy newfound power!
-Alpha
The biggest thing that stuck out to me is that Xyre has been incredibly noncommital. He initially threw suspicion on RafK for somewhat dubious reasons (he said that he didn't think Hantei 39 would be in the game, and also said that he thought millers were never told they were millers.)
On the massclaim, he didn't give an initial opinion one way or another. When it became controversial, all he had to say on the subject was that it "might be beneficial, but might also be inherently suicidal." He's asked a lot of questions, but given few answers. Also, I'm not sure he's ever actually voted.
unvote, vote Xyre. My eye is still on ZDS, Loran and Pibbly. I can't get a read on chamber or AI, and I'm having trouble objectively analyzing Puzzle right now. CC, RafK, and Pod look good to me right now. CPE's behavior hasn't been great, but his claim seems fairly strong.
On a more serious note,
You're serious?
Look at it this way: there's no way, if he's scum, that you'll get an honest explanation from him. Indeed, he'd most likely say the exact thing I just said and you criticized. What would you expect? It's nigh-impossible to determine for sure who gave him the information or if he just got it himself, and right now, your pursuit of this looks fairly suspicious. Seriously, you're basing suspicions off his font. I understand how that could possibly prove something, but I'm thinking it doesn't.
FOS Pod
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Okay, I see, but as far as I can tell, DYH doesn't use Times New Roman; he uses Verdana.
For example, from DYH's last vote count:You have eight days remaining.
For comparison:
You have eight days remaining (Verdana)
You have eight days remaining (Times New Roman)
The only person in the game who does post in Times New Roman is ZeDorkSlipeur. The only way that makes sense is if they're able to talk at night (either mason or mafia) and AI copied a ZDS statement from a PM.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Oh. Yes, it is.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
My mistake. It's hard to differentiate serif fonts.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
FWIW prior to my re-read I don't think CPE is cleared at all (any false claims would logically be in the same style as the real roles, and it's illogical to think that we can easily clear people based off role-names and that there's no false claims).
On more recent events: Why hasn't cc threatened pod yet?
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
I'll direct you to a previous post of mine regarding this issue...
-Alpha
-Nuff said.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
Note that I was pushing the puzzle thing as early as my FIRST POST. Puzzle was clearly not acting "less then ridiculous" yet, also your logic that he can’t be scum because he’s "less then ridiculous" is noted. I don’t personally consider much of anything puzzle has done to be bad play, most of it so far has been very sensible. I don't know weather to think you bad scum or bad town, I need to think about it.
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
To my knowledge I've never lied about how busy I was outside of a game to excuse lurking.
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
I wasn't referring to anything to do with the votes...I was referring to your claim very early in that game, which was what caused the players to call your play bad.
I'm not defending him per se, I'm just responding to Chamber and trying to give reasons why I tend to think Puzzle town after thinking about it, keeping in mind his past play. Although I am disturbed by Puzzle's play (evidenced by bickering), I was just more disturbed by Chamber's earlier posts...lesser of two evils kind of thing.
-Alpha
My comment was more about this sentence than you not actually explaining your vote. There were a couple of times where i would have like a better explination, but im too buisy to find examples and they are minor at best.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
IGMEOY Loran16
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
"Here is the monitor of your progress, the sands are sifting quickly through the hourglass, my friends."
He presents the tablet to you:
Vote Count
Loran16 (3) - Pibbly, CropCircles, Puzzle
Pibbly (1) - Pod
Pod (1) - Chamber
Puzzle (1) - Loran16
Xyre (1) - Arimnaes
ZeDorkSlipeur (1) - Creampuffeater
With 12 alive it is 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Saturday, October 28th, at 11pm ET.
Reminder: 2. Deadlines will be set if necessary. The player(s) with the highest number of votes will be lynched at the deadline.
V/LA: 3/21-3/24 & 3/27-3/29
-Alpha
Fine, I'll claim, I am Isawa Kaede. Link can be found here. (http://l5r.wikia.com/wiki/Isawa_Kaede)
I am the pheonix clan's Master of the Void. I have the ability to lower a player's chi by 1 (ie opening the player up to the void for a moment). This has the potential of killing that player if their chi equals 0 (So chi values DO matter in that way.)
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
My one issue, and it's hardly an issue, is that the Phoenix clan is largely considered pacifist.
-Alpha
The question is, is this how all killing roles work, or is Loran's a unique one?
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Fixed.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
ANALYSIS What a FINE WORD. Why don't we use it for once....
How bout we go after the guy whose been blatantly bandwagoning without reasoning and will probably expose half of the power roles to the scum??
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
I think both cpe and loran are strong chances to be using "safe claim" rolenames. I don't like either of their claims.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
[The Family]