Another reason we need a vote count. I'd assume however that the votes would be counted in the order they were posted. You wouldn't expect your vote to disappear if someone voted and brought it to 7 would you?
well i was bored, i'm not going to vote for coiled flame or anyone until he either says something for himself or gets replaced.
BTW Votes:
Wrath_of_DoG WhytePanther
atlseal
Good&Evil
Silent Prophet (conditional on 4 votes, which it was at)
Rouge Rogue
StormBlind (conditional on 5 votes, whichi it is at now)
If you look at White Stripes mafia you'll see that Coiled Flame has apparently dropped off the map of both games. I think this means we should not assume guilt based on him not posting. Instead, we should wait till he gets back with a reason or is replaced.
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Note to players: I will not count votes not in bold (Like silent prophets, thus why he ISNT voting CF) and i will not be doing conditional votes like Rahl's for you. If you say you'll vote at a certain point, YOU'LL have to place said vote. That's not my responsibility.
EDIT: Saw WP's unvote.
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Well, now that we've got that settled: we don't really need any more votes on Coiled Flame at the moment. We really just need to wait for him to post again/get replaced. It's been said before, and I'll say it again: "Don't lynch him without giving him a chance to respond."
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If you're town and I'm mafia, you've already lost. You just don't know it yet.
FYI, Stormblind also voted Coiled Flame (unconditionally) in 220.
I just recieved this PM. GUYS, PLEASE if you have corrections to vote counts, PUT IT IN the thread, dont clutter my inbox. Thank you.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Silent Prophet: 1: Wuffles II RougeRogue:1:atlseal, Atlseal:3:WhytePanther, Stormblind, Good+Evil(EVEN BIGGER!!!) Coiled Flame:1:Silent Prophet Wrath of Dog:1:Silent Prophet
Coiled Flame is being PRODDED right now. (With an electric charge to the ass :-P)
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Pfft, this is exactly what happened in newb 9 - Coiled posts a lot for a little while, then when we get close to lynching him he screws us all around then makes another random post. I say we just lynch him now.
Don't be so impatient WoD - worst case scenario we wait for 2 more days and then have him replaced. If he's mafia we might get more info from him and from his possible replacement. If he's town he's not really giving much away with his inactivity.
In the meantime we can also have a look around us, and start trying to figure out possible mafia candidates.
I WOULD FoS Wrath of Dog also, but I am already FoSing him, apparantly.
These two seem to be a bit anxious to get this lynch over with and go to night in a hurry. Night is the mafia's time. If we can get a lil more info out of the day before we give the mafia their chance, where's the harm?
After 3 days of us waiting for him with baited breath, CF finally posts ... no content at all!
This seems like a good time to give the good ol' emoticon a spin.
5 votes??? Dammit, this is turning otu like all my other games...
Anyhow, sorry for the inactivity. Any requests to make people unvote me???
yeah, people didn't like the random vote at this point in the game, and then you made some other scummy calls. Then you didn't post, so people kinda assumed you were mafia and you'd given up.
Except as someone said, the mafia could be pushing for this because they know he's town. Except that every lynching could be that.
Mod Notice: If CF doenst post in 24 hours (Again....) I'll replace him. This is sickening me.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
[QUOTE=WoD]Pfft, this is exactly what happened in newb 9 - Coiled posts a lot for a little while, then when we get close to lynching him he screws us all around then makes another random post. I say we just lynch him now.[/B]
[b]* Wuffles_II hits WoD with a comically-oversized salami for being right.[/b]
Well, I don't know about you guys but...I'm really f***ing tired of Coiled's behavior.
[B]Unvote, Vote Coiled Flame[/B].
If you can't post content, at least learn how to avoid pissing people off.
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Yesterday, 09:37 PM
I don't deal in almosts, only in absolutes (at least in modding). I said 24 hours, we're 5 hours off right now. Then and only then will i PM Nom anor.
(Mod Sidenote, ive offered Cyan a place on the replacement list for this game if we need another person besides Nom Anor)
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Hello all. I am Nom_Anor, your new replacement. I will be back in an hour or two with the reasons for you not to kill me(yay). I think I need that little bit of time so that I can write a decent defence. Thank you.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
Hello all. I am Nom_Anor, your new replacement. I will be back in an hour or two with the reasons for you not to kill me(yay). I think I need that little bit of time so that I can write a decent defence. Thank you.
MMkay, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, so Unvote, Vote Cyan for the time being.
Even though you are replacing Coiled, I'd still like a roleclaim from you, please.
Hello. I am your new participant. This is my first online Mafia game, but from reading other mafia threads, I feel that I should be competent enough to perform at least rather decently in this game, at least if I manage to survive the rest of this day.
First of all, I would like to say that I would rather prefer to not be lynched. (or otherwise killed for that matter.) I have seen that Coiled Flame has gotten himself into a bit of a…um…predicament. I have read this both this thread and Newb Mafia 9, and I feel that I have been able to diagnose how CF managed to get himself so close to being hanged.
Coiled Flame seems to be a person who enjoys the thrill of Mafia, but does not have the patience to stick with it, nor the willingness to invest the time needed to stay alive. Because of this, he has the tendency to make essentially random votes with little or no justification. These near-random votes lead to him being put under suspicion. I do not know if he is unable to remove himself from suspicion because he is unwilling to try, or because he is utterly incompetent, but at this point he gives up, stumbles, and dies. Although he was worse of in Newb 9, he was still unable to recover from pressure, and got himself lynched, and from what Wrath of Dog said, he did the same thing in White Stripes. I implore you not to kill me for his incompetence, and I will be far more active than CF was(If I live longer than 4 or 5 minutes).
And now for my claim. I am….. a Bothan(I can’t believe Face did this to me. A bothan? I don’t even get a name?) I sliced the security holos and get to see who goes into rooms at night. At night I choose a person and I get told who they targeted with their special ability.
At this time I am not going to accuse anyone of being scum. I feel that in this situation I would be compromised to accuse others of being mafia, because many people might be inclined to believe that I was merely trying to shunt my attention to someone else. If you all feel strongly that it would be important for me to do so, I would be perfectly willing to, I am merely saying stating my reasons for doing this, so that it does not appear scummy to all of you.
So in conclusion, I am a nice guy who is a peeping tom, and got totally screwed over by Coiled Flame. Please don’t kill me.
Oh and Unvote.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
Well, seems quite decent to me. Unvote: Coiled Flame/Nom Anor. The claim was nice, thanks. I don't really think you needed claim you ability. However, it's a little too late now. *sigh* But, I believe it.
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And now for my claim. I am….. a Bothan(I can’t believe Face did this to me. A bothan? I don’t even get a name?) I sliced the security holos and get to see who goes into rooms at night. At night I choose a person and I get told who they targeted with their special ability.
I have a name, which makes me somewhat suspicious of the flavor of the claim. I wonder how many of the other players have specific names. What's a Bothan anyway?
I have a name, which makes me somewhat suspicious of the flavor of the claim. I wonder how many of the other players have specific names. What's a Bothan anyway?
Whoa, Alx. His response seems perfectly reasonable to me. Casting doubt on it like this is a bad thing. Remember, trying to outguess the mod == bad. I've read plenty of situations where characters don't have "specific names". I'm feeling like my last vote before Coiled Flame was properly placed. That was just wrong. Vote: Alx
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If you're town and I'm mafia, you've already lost. You just don't know it yet.
I have a name, which makes me somewhat suspicious of the flavor of the claim. I wonder how many of the other players have specific names. What's a Bothan anyway?
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
We are still discussing Nom_Anor. Your attempt to preempt the discussion as quickly as possible is noted. I'd still like to exhaust the discussion, please. Let's start with you, altseal: name or no name?
I don't think now is the right time to be getting into patterns, and as such, I'm going to not answer that question for the time being. Although, I will reiterate in that I believe his claim. It seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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I don't think now is the right time to be getting into patterns, and as such, I'm going to not answer that question for the time being. Although, I will reiterate in that I believe his claim. It seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Only problem with the claim as I see it is that it took me a minute to read loran's custom title to figure out who "the face" was. This coupled with the fact that Coiled Flame's play was mostly bad, not so much scummy, seems reasonable to me.
As for Alx's comment about "a bothan", given that Wikipedia doesn't seem to have a named example of a bothan, so I see no problem with it.
EWP: Wow, three posts while I'm posting? I'm a slow thinker I guess.
Alx: Pattern hunting? Without a single confirmed name? I'd assume it's just an odd one-of that wouldn't have a thing to do with his alignment. FoS Alx.
Tsk tsk tsk. It would be wise to not make any assumptions. I would like to go on the record in that I'm not claiming name or no name. In fact, I'm not sure that this is that great of a plan (especially on the first day - with no information)
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I am rather a Star Wars Fan(look at my name, he's the main villan for most of NJO series) and because of this, I think of the character Garik Loren as Face, because that is the name he goes by almost exclusivelly(In both the Wraith Squadron books and in enemy lines II).
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I am rather a Star Wars Fan(look at my name, he's the main villan for most of NJO series) and because of this, I think of the character Garik LorAn as Face, because that is the name he goes by almost exclusivelly(In both the Wraith Squadron books and in enemy lines II).
FIXED. Spell the name right please.
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Hello. I am your new participant. This is my first online Mafia game, but from reading other mafia threads, I feel that I should be competent enough to perform at least rather decently in this game, at least if I manage to survive the rest of this day.
First of all, I would like to say that I would rather prefer to not be lynched. (or otherwise killed for that matter.) I have seen that Coiled Flame has gotten himself into a bit of a…um…predicament. I have read this both this thread and Newb Mafia 9, and I feel that I have been able to diagnose how CF managed to get himself so close to being hanged.
Coiled Flame seems to be a person who enjoys the thrill of Mafia, but does not have the patience to stick with it, nor the willingness to invest the time needed to stay alive. Because of this, he has the tendency to make essentially random votes with little or no justification. These near-random votes lead to him being put under suspicion. I do not know if he is unable to remove himself from suspicion because he is unwilling to try, or because he is utterly incompetent, but at this point he gives up, stumbles, and dies. Although he was worse of in Newb 9, he was still unable to recover from pressure, and got himself lynched, and from what Wrath of Dog said, he did the same thing in White Stripes. I implore you not to kill me for his incompetence, and I will be far more active than CF was(If I live longer than 4 or 5 minutes).
And now for my claim. I am….. a Bothan(I can’t believe Face did this to me. A bothan? I don’t even get a name?) I sliced the security holos and get to see who goes into rooms at night. At night I choose a person and I get told who they targeted with their special ability.
At this time I am not going to accuse anyone of being scum. I feel that in this situation I would be compromised to accuse others of being mafia, because many people might be inclined to believe that I was merely trying to shunt my attention to someone else. If you all feel strongly that it would be important for me to do so, I would be perfectly willing to, I am merely saying stating my reasons for doing this, so that it does not appear scummy to all of you.
So in conclusion, I am a nice guy who is a peeping tom, and got totally screwed over by Coiled Flame. Please don’t kill me.
Oh and Unvote.
No way is this kind of ability going to be put in a NEWB GAME. I think its a false claim. Unvote, Vote Nom_Anor.
EBWODP: Let me explain properly. Newb games always have the same basic set-up. The reason they are newb games is because there is likely to be no weird and/or wonderful abilities like that.
TOWN:
1 Doc
1 Cop
Occasionally: vigilante with one shot.
Occasionally: back-up cop.
Rest vanilla town.
The abilities of the role itself are actually the least of my problems with him. True, the role never existed in a newbie game before, but there's a first time for everything. Here's what I do have a problem with:
1. Coiled Flame completely gave up. The roleclaim (on the face of it) is not that bad, and if he had it in his PM, he would've at least tried claiming it. He did not.
2. There is a very worrying banter between CF/N_A and altseal:
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Dangit Coiled Flame, why'd you have to go and do that? I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt until now.
This is the post where atlseal votes him. It almost looks like he's disappointed by his partner's performance and tries to at least make himself look good by sinking him before it's too late.
Quote from atlseal, post 250 »
Well, seems quite decent to me. Unvote: Coiled Flame/Nom Anor. The claim was nice, thanks.
This is after N_A claimed. I can practically hear the sigh of relief all the way across the Web - "whew! my scum partner is not a deadbeat after all!"
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Whoa, Alx. His response seems perfectly reasonable to me. Casting doubt on it like this is a bad thing.
As soon as I doubt N_A even slightly, altseal springs to the rescue. This has the reverse effect of making me doubt N_A even more.
3. And last but not least, I don't trust him on the nameless Botan thing.
Hi guys. Cyan is mafia, because there is no miller in newb games! Never! Not once! DIEDIEDIE!!!!!!
The same goes for here. In newb mafia, if someone claims something other than vanilla, doc, Cop, Vig, backup, (or perhaps mason) then LYNCH THEIR ASS. Either that, or a certain MOD doesn't understand the point of newb games. ( However, I am thinking Loran does not fall into this category... )
I'd just like to point out that I don't have a name, either. That said, FoS: Nom_Anor. If we lynch him and he was telling the truth, though, some people will have explaining to do.
Nom Anor-6, , Good+Evil, Rouge Rogue, Stormblind, Wuffles II, Wrath of Dog, Alx, FOS Count
Silent Prophet: 1: Wuffles II RougeRogue:1:atlseal, Atlseal:3:WhytePanther, Stormblind, Good+Evil(EVEN BIGGER!!!) Nom ANor:2:Silent Prophet, Rouge Rogue. Wrath of Dog:1:Silent Prophet
7 to lynch.....
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Also, how about discussing possible cop/vig targets for tonight? I think atlseal looks really bad now.
I object this discussion. The thing is, mafia can pick up on some hints and determine who the cop/vig are. And since mafia usually have a roleblocker... well, you get the point... I would prefer the power roles stay hidden and think for themselves.
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truthfully, anyone who votes for him is basically dead.
BTW Votes:
Wrath_of_DoG
WhytePantheratlseal
Good&Evil
Silent Prophet (conditional on 4 votes, which it was at)
Rouge Rogue
StormBlind (conditional on 5 votes, whichi it is at now)
5 Votes atm.
unvote, Vote Coiled Flame
on second thoughts, if he doesn't post soon i'm going to assume he is mafia and just gave up, so that'll be the vote then.
Coiled Flame-4 Wrath_of_DoG, , atlseal, Good&Evil, Rouge Rogue,
Note to players: I will not count votes not in bold (Like silent prophets, thus why he ISNT voting CF) and i will not be doing conditional votes like Rahl's for you. If you say you'll vote at a certain point, YOU'LL have to place said vote. That's not my responsibility.
EDIT: Saw WP's unvote.
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I just recieved this PM. GUYS, PLEASE if you have corrections to vote counts, PUT IT IN the thread, dont clutter my inbox. Thank you.
Proper vote and FOS count coming in this hour
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Stormblind-1-, Alx
Godless Angel-1- Coiled Flame
Coiled Flame-5-Wrath of Dog, Atlseal, Good+Evil, Rouge Rogue, Stormblind
FOS Count
Silent Prophet: 1: Wuffles II
RougeRogue:1:atlseal,
Atlseal:3:WhytePanther, Stormblind, Good+Evil(EVEN BIGGER!!!)
Coiled Flame:1:Silent Prophet
Wrath of Dog:1:Silent Prophet
Coiled Flame is being PRODDED right now. (With an electric charge to the ass :-P)
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Don't be so impatient WoD - worst case scenario we wait for 2 more days and then have him replaced. If he's mafia we might get more info from him and from his possible replacement. If he's town he's not really giving much away with his inactivity.
In the meantime we can also have a look around us, and start trying to figure out possible mafia candidates.
Anyhow, sorry for the inactivity. Any requests to make people unvote me???
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I WOULD FoS Wrath of Dog also, but I am already FoSing him, apparantly.
These two seem to be a bit anxious to get this lynch over with and go to night in a hurry. Night is the mafia's time. If we can get a lil more info out of the day before we give the mafia their chance, where's the harm?
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After 3 days of us waiting for him with baited breath, CF finally posts ... no content at all!
This seems like a good time to give the good ol' emoticon a spin.
yeah, people didn't like the random vote at this point in the game, and then you made some other scummy calls. Then you didn't post, so people kinda assumed you were mafia and you'd given up.
Except as someone said, the mafia could be pushing for this because they know he's town. Except that every lynching could be that.
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*sigh* why cant we have you or Cyan here, it would make day 1 eary.
[b]* Wuffles_II hits WoD with a comically-oversized salami for being right.[/b]
Well, I don't know about you guys but...I'm really f***ing tired of Coiled's behavior.
[B]Unvote, Vote Coiled Flame[/B].
If you can't post content, at least learn how to avoid pissing people off.
God.
However, I will be a little bit happy when coiled is lynched or at least gets replaced.
COILEEEEEDDD, HEERE BOY COILEEDDD
* Wuffles_II blows the Coiled Flame Dog-whistle*
I don't deal in almosts, only in absolutes (at least in modding). I said 24 hours, we're 5 hours off right now. Then and only then will i PM Nom anor.
(Mod Sidenote, ive offered Cyan a place on the replacement list for this game if we need another person besides Nom Anor)
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Even though you are replacing Coiled, I'd still like a roleclaim from you, please. MMkay, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, so Unvote, Vote Cyan for the time being.
First of all, I would like to say that I would rather prefer to not be lynched. (or otherwise killed for that matter.) I have seen that Coiled Flame has gotten himself into a bit of a…um…predicament. I have read this both this thread and Newb Mafia 9, and I feel that I have been able to diagnose how CF managed to get himself so close to being hanged.
Coiled Flame seems to be a person who enjoys the thrill of Mafia, but does not have the patience to stick with it, nor the willingness to invest the time needed to stay alive. Because of this, he has the tendency to make essentially random votes with little or no justification. These near-random votes lead to him being put under suspicion. I do not know if he is unable to remove himself from suspicion because he is unwilling to try, or because he is utterly incompetent, but at this point he gives up, stumbles, and dies. Although he was worse of in Newb 9, he was still unable to recover from pressure, and got himself lynched, and from what Wrath of Dog said, he did the same thing in White Stripes. I implore you not to kill me for his incompetence, and I will be far more active than CF was(If I live longer than 4 or 5 minutes).
And now for my claim. I am….. a Bothan(I can’t believe Face did this to me. A bothan? I don’t even get a name?) I sliced the security holos and get to see who goes into rooms at night. At night I choose a person and I get told who they targeted with their special ability.
At this time I am not going to accuse anyone of being scum. I feel that in this situation I would be compromised to accuse others of being mafia, because many people might be inclined to believe that I was merely trying to shunt my attention to someone else. If you all feel strongly that it would be important for me to do so, I would be perfectly willing to, I am merely saying stating my reasons for doing this, so that it does not appear scummy to all of you.
So in conclusion, I am a nice guy who is a peeping tom, and got totally screwed over by Coiled Flame. Please don’t kill me.
Oh and Unvote.
Just in case you can't see it in the small text Unvote.
I have a name, which makes me somewhat suspicious of the flavor of the claim. I wonder how many of the other players have specific names. What's a Bothan anyway?
Whoa, Alx. His response seems perfectly reasonable to me. Casting doubt on it like this is a bad thing. Remember, trying to outguess the mod == bad. I've read plenty of situations where characters don't have "specific names". I'm feeling like my last vote before Coiled Flame was properly placed. That was just wrong. Vote: Alx
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bothan
I'll take it as "no name". Thanks.
As for Alx's comment about "a bothan", given that Wikipedia doesn't seem to have a named example of a bothan, so I see no problem with it.
EWP: Wow, three posts while I'm posting? I'm a slow thinker I guess.
Alx: Pattern hunting? Without a single confirmed name? I'd assume it's just an odd one-of that wouldn't have a thing to do with his alignment. FoS Alx.
FIXED. Spell the name right please.
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TOWN:
1 Doc
1 Cop
Occasionally: vigilante with one shot.
Occasionally: back-up cop.
Rest vanilla town.
MAFIA
1 roleblocker
2 vanilla
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The abilities of the role itself are actually the least of my problems with him. True, the role never existed in a newbie game before, but there's a first time for everything. Here's what I do have a problem with:
1. Coiled Flame completely gave up. The roleclaim (on the face of it) is not that bad, and if he had it in his PM, he would've at least tried claiming it. He did not.
2. There is a very worrying banter between CF/N_A and altseal:
This is the post where atlseal votes him. It almost looks like he's disappointed by his partner's performance and tries to at least make himself look good by sinking him before it's too late.
This is after N_A claimed. I can practically hear the sigh of relief all the way across the Web - "whew! my scum partner is not a deadbeat after all!"
As soon as I doubt N_A even slightly, altseal springs to the rescue. This has the reverse effect of making me doubt N_A even more.
3. And last but not least, I don't trust him on the nameless Botan thing.
The same goes for here. In newb mafia, if someone claims something other than vanilla, doc, Cop, Vig, backup, (or perhaps mason) then LYNCH THEIR ASS. Either that, or a certain MOD doesn't understand the point of newb games. ( However, I am thinking Loran does not fall into this category... )
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DIEDIEDIE!!!!!!
Nom Anor-6, , Good+Evil, Rouge Rogue, Stormblind, Wuffles II, Wrath of Dog, Alx,
FOS Count
Silent Prophet: 1: Wuffles II
RougeRogue:1:atlseal,
Atlseal:3:WhytePanther, Stormblind, Good+Evil(EVEN BIGGER!!!)
Nom ANor:2:Silent Prophet, Rouge Rogue.
Wrath of Dog:1:Silent Prophet
7 to lynch.....
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
I object this discussion. The thing is, mafia can pick up on some hints and determine who the cop/vig are. And since mafia usually have a roleblocker... well, you get the point... I would prefer the power roles stay hidden and think for themselves.