You all get sick of TWS taunting you, and so you tie him up, lay him on his back, and start jumping on his head. TWS just giggles. You can't even bruise him.
It doesn't look like you have a really convenient means of killing him at the moment.
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What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
I live! Buahaha. Anyway, for those saying my role is odd, agreed, this is Douglas Adams mafia, so I say its fair. <y best bet to win is to get all the scum dead, as having the town win is alot faster then letting the scum win. I'm in it with the rest of you. As for you saying I "caved too early" I figured that I'd be put to the claim test anyway, as I was active during the daykill, so I decided to save us the process of everyone deciding to to test that, then having everyone vote on me. Anywho, my vote stands on AH, scum that he is.
The problem with the Twomz lynch, and the assumption that he's lying, is that he really is Slartibartfast as he claimed he was because I investigated him. I'm very suspicious of AH for suggesting lynching someone that made a claim that I know to be at the very least partially true. My vote stays on AH.
-After saturday, which is my last drill comp(ever! w00t for getting out of HS), I'll be able to post more. Every time I've been on, I've either left the site open or have been re-reading. I'm currently on page 75, so I'm just now getting to the part where y'all want to hear from me. I watched puzzle last night, so I know of no other players that targetted chimp. Btw, post #1114 is a lie.
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I've already told y'all that CP said that my ability only barely went through, and i certainly never lied about it. Unvote (i'm not Rahl, i'm not going to vote for myself)
I have a deal Puzzle. You claim (full claim) and i'll send it in to CP. If tonight i recieve your choice of who you targetted, you're clear, and i'm clear. Deal?
I have a deal Puzzle. You claim (full claim) and i'll send it in to CP. If tonight i recieve your choice of who you targetted, you're clear, and i'm clear. Deal?
Couldn't it be a mafia ability, though? Confirming your ability isn't the same as confirming your alignment, is it?
Bluesoul, I'm not promising I'll target you, but if I do don't kill me okay.
I've already told y'all that CP said that my ability only barely went through, and i certainly never lied about it. Unvote (i'm not Rahl, i'm not going to vote for myself)
I have a deal Puzzle. You claim (full claim) and i'll send it in to CP. If tonight i recieve your choice of who you targetted, you're clear, and i'm clear. Deal?
Um, yeah. What kind of "deal" is that? YOu're rather quick to go around "clearing" people, considering you're NOT a Cop role.
COuld someone explain better why Diggy stealing a vote makes him clear? Is it just because you think that's too powerful for a mafia? It doesn't seem like that to me, but maybe i'm missing something.
I have a deal Puzzle. You claim (full claim) and i'll send it in to CP. If tonight i recieve your choice of who you targetted, you're clear, and i'm clear. Deal?
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Excuse-me but from where does this come from ? Since when do you also have a watcher ability ?
Alright, it looks like Twomz is having a hard time keeping his story straight. I think I've seen enough. Unvote, Vote: Twomz.
@TWS: I still think your role is stupid. (nothing personal, CP)
No... wait... nm. I'm just told WHEN you send a choice not who... sorry. I need to write my ability on a sticky note and put it on my desktop...
Well, since no one is going to believe my ability, making me trying to use it pointless... would you like me to full claim before you lynch me? I'd prefer if i lived on threw night, so i can do some good for the town. (Yes, i have been hiding part of my ability... i thought it was better for the town that way... but if revealing it will help the town, i'll do it.)
-After saturday, which is my last drill comp(ever! w00t for getting out of HS), I'll be able to post more. Every time I've been on, I've either left the site open or have been re-reading. I'm currently on page 75, so I'm just now getting to the part where y'all want to hear from me. I watched puzzle last night, so I know of no other players that targetted chimp. Btw, post #1114 is a lie.
Eh, what? You confirmed what I said in point 2. You may not agree with my opinions (shouldn't be confirmed, already suspicous of Puzzle), but it's no lie. Point 1 is an argument for lynching TWS. I know that isn't the best plan now, but then it was logical.
I'm Slartibartfast. Every night/day cycle i recieve one role "delay." I believe it postpones an ability for 2 days, but i'm not sure. I may also save up these (which i have been doing) for each cycle... which means, that i have 3 saved up. I can also take one guess per person at their ability and name. I need to be as correct as possible in my guess. If i'm correct, i will be told when they use their ability, and given a chance to use one of my roleblocks to delay it.
There... my whole ability... paraphrased as close as i can get it. I'm also willing to quote it directly if i reach a majority, since it doesn't seem like the full roles are being revealed.
Oh, theres no confidence, I think hes being an idiot, but I don't know if hes scum. I wouldn't be unhappy to see him go anyway if just to stop him leaking everywhere and holding back info, but my chance of living depends on lynching scum, which I don't believe he is.
1. Thats not established neccessarily. I can see where CP would allow his ability to go through, even without specifically saying that the giving of the fishbowl would give them the ability. After all, what would the point of it be if it didn't. Admittedly this is bad against him, but I believe him.
2/3. Yeah, hes acted pretty scummy, but in a sense he is a watcher and roleblocker (assuming his claims are true), and I don't believe hes scum, just as a matter of sense.
In short, I don't think hes scum, and based on my own survival I'm going to look elsewhere. But if the town think hes the best lynch, then go right ahead, I won't object.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
If AH doesn't turn out to be a insane or paranoid cop, i'd be surprised. Puzzle is very likely to be scum in my opinion as well.
Now that i'm "caught in the open," it really doesn't matter to me. It seems like most townies in this game are either lurking, or following scumlike players on nitpick lynches.
I'm going to Vote: Puzzle because i'm pretty darn sure he's scum. If y'all would like to look over the facts and see the logic of it yourselves go ahead... if not, go ahead and lynch me, at least then i can show you that Puzzle was just trying to get an easy town lynch and save himself for one more day.
@ CP/eddy?: If a majority is reached on me, and i post a quote of my role during the twilight, will i be modkilled thus continuing the game, or will the day end in my lynch, w/ a joint modkill added?
Also, if i die, i will at least use up my 3 blocks... probably on TWS, Puzzle and AH... TWS in order to stop neutral schnangins (sp?) and Puzzle and AH as a slap on the wrist for being stubborn scums. (I'm pretty sure it will delay any (or at least the first i think) triggered or static abilities for the next day/night phase... so you may be able to lynch TWS... i'm not sure).
I'd also like to apologize to the town. Kenji, diggy, KCW, Holmes, ?WoLG?, Abs, and ?PF?; I'm sorry i have a bad memory. Next game i'm in on salvation i'll be sure to keep a copy of my role up while i'm making my posts, to stop scum like puzzle from misusing my forgetfullness for the mafia's benefit.
I'll keep checking up as well... but i doubt any of my posts have had or will have much content unless something big comes up... Tchao.
Are you now implying you can use these blocks at any time? That you have some sort of death trigger? Man, is your PM five pages long to detail your role?
Unvote.
For some reason I'm buying this- I think it's the flavor as KCW pointed out. In any event, could you please clarify what it is you're doing, exactly, with this last post?
1) No my paraphrase was only slightly shorter than the actual quote (i've PMed CP several times trying to clarify my role).
2) Yes, i can block at anytime (i thought about useing one up on bluesoul, but decided against it)
3) Deathtrigger? No, i'll just PM CP w/ three choices during twilight if i'm lynched.
4) Basically, i'm stating my position on matters, and saying that i'm likely to only answer questions directed at me, and not post much more besides that... or at least that's what i'd like to do... but i'll end up posting just as much as i always do :-/. Also, i asked CP/Eddy? a question.
That's it in a nutshell... erm, thx for believing me... i guess. *shrug*
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
You know, I think I agree with KCW here. I think Puzzle is actually acting fairly scummy. Let's look at his last post (or second to last, I'm really to lazy to look it up, but it doesn't matter):
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I'm intrigued.
1. We have established that Twomz lied about his ability-checking ability.
2. He then claimed watcher, asking me for my role, saying that once I activate it, it would clear us both.
3. Once under pressure, he then withdrew that, saying that in fact he is a role-blocker (with possibly a triple-block available tonight).
1. No. From the beginning, he has maintained that it was hard for him to get confirmation from C_P. He said he almost didn't get bluesoul's role (or a chance to watch him, but I'll come back to this in a second.) He also said that C_P isn't going to let this happen again. Now, he hasn't changed his story here, and instead he has pointed out many times how hard it was for him to get his confirmation.
2. Kinda. At first, the watcher ability wasn't in his claim. But as the game has progressed, he has mentioned this many times. He has (other than the time you last pointed out) told everyone that he got a chance to see when people used their ability. So, no, it wasn't all of a sudden. I get the feeling that it was there from the beginning. And, if you claimed, and then he used his ability, and then he could see if you used it, then we would be able to obtain a lot more information and be able to tell if one of you is lying, if not both.
3. He didn't "withdraw" that. He still sticks to the fact that he can watch people once he has their entire role. Now, he said "roleblocker" mistakenly. In his pm, and how he explained it, he can delay any ability. This doesn't block it, but moves it instead. Now, this is new, and a bit suspicious. However, if it is true, it is a very powerful ability that benefits the town greatly. Anyway, it might be a tad bit too overpowerd to be true.
How do you think I would have looked if we hadn't forced him to reveal he is a RBer and he had silently RBed me ? I would have had to say I couldn't do anything and he would have had an easy game saying I lied about my ability and just feared the watcher.
So, in short, what gives you so much confidence in Twomz ?
Nothing gives me tremendous confidence in him. I just think that your case against him is very weak and there are other leads. For one, I actually think you are looking scummier, and scummier with this attack on Twomz, but more importantly, I think pursuing A_H is actually much better.
I'm a "good player", so I'm scum and must die, obv, obv.
I'm not saying that, I'm saying that you're trying to manipulate people's perception of you as a "good player" to try and steer the town into lynching somoene who I believe is confirmed town.
In what respect ? Twomz, Avabob and you are ganging up repeating this kind of things. Why does none of you come up with actual examples ?
Because you're repeatig half-truths with rhetoric and a sense of immediacy thrown in. For example:
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And how could Twomz confirm BlueSoul with part of his ability missing ? It's not a matter of clarity of PMs. It's a matter of missing elements in Twomz's alleged PM to CP, when Twomz says that any element missing will void his ability.
He's already been over this many times; c_p decided to give it to him though the information wasn't quite complete. As he said, from now on he must have absolutely complete info.
He's already been over this many times; c_p decided to give it to him though the information wasn't quite complete. As he said, from now on he must have absolutely complete info.
That doesn't sound right to me. Mods seek an arbitrary neutral point. They try to make the game fair. They plan. Not creating an entirely clear role, clarifying it over a number of posts, giving Twomz free info even though he was off. These do not sound like the inconsistancies of a mod. They sound like inconsistancies of a player.
No, he said his information was unclear (and needed further PMs to clarify), not incomplete.
Small distinction.
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That doesn't sound right to me. Mods seek an arbitrary neutral point. They try to make the game fair. They plan. Not creating an entirely clear role, clarifying it over a number of posts, giving Twomz free info even though he was off. These do not sound like the inconsistancies of a mod. They sound like inconsistancies of a player.
I wouldn't be so sure. It's also a very, very bad idea to venture into the realm of what the mod would or wouldn't do.
So, I see no dispute here. Twomz is claiming the Flying Pumpkin and flopping all over himself with claims (he was the one that "incriminated" Puzzle, right?). So he dies....
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So, I see no dispute here. Twomz is claiming the Flying Pumpkin and flopping all over himself with claims (he was the one that "incriminated" Puzzle, right?). So he dies....
Except that his name is accurate and his character is almost guaranteed pro-town.
@ armlx: WoLG was the one who pinged Puzzle as being the one who targetted chimp last night.
@ Puzzle: Stop Straw manning me. (I just remembered the wiki... the wiki be our friend :)).
Also, Bluesould did mention his passing the bowl ability before i sent in. I just don't feel like reading threw 50 pages of posts to find it right now. Also, it wasn't several pms to "watch" bluesoul. It was several pms to figure out small parts of my ability. Such as does guessing bs's ability count as a "target" (it doesn't).
Well, that changes infi stuff. Puzzle still should go down. I forgot that one, and Puzzle stated it was you who did. Meh, lots of people need to die over the next night (A_H, Puzzle, maybe Twomz).
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Erm, Puzzle... it WAS WoLG who watched you and saw you target Chimp... i'm sure of it. How can you say no he didn't? It's what started this whole thing.
Well... here's the "list" of reasons i think your scummy.
1) A watcher caught you targetting a player that died.
2) You refuse to claim, and just ignore the situation.
3) You asked me a whole lot of questions and waited for me to make a small wording mistake so you could throw the towns bandwagon in my direction.
4) You're actually lying. (You said that Bluesoul didn't mention the bowl being passed before i sent in, when in fact he did, which to me is more of a lie than my little wording mistake.)
There's probably more... but i'll post the rest after you have a chance to respond to that.
I don't really see what Puzzle is attempting to do here. I think we just need to pressure him enough to get him to claim, he already said he would. I still don't see a case where he could claim and be clear, because I forsee a counter claim of some sort if he tries to. The longer we wait, the longer we may be giving him to false claim.
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I'm in agreement, here. This bantering back and forth is not helping us get anywhere. It's obvious Twomz is/was confused, but I'm having a hard time with his uncounter-claimed role being scum. Considering these are the two people of highest suspicion at this point, and Twomz has been more than forthcoming with his (albeit screwy) claim, I believe we need a full-claim from Puzzle in order to break this deadlock.
Lol, i almost forgot about the goldfish bowl. But i remembered it at the last second!
I doubt any of this will matter, because the mafia won't risk targetting Bluesoul... but, whatever.
So, Twomz did mention the Goldfish bowl then, however there was no mention of the refill ability. I believe this could've been implied... However:
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I will explain my role once again, completely. I'm Wonko the Sane. I have a fishbowl full of wheat germ, and when someone targets me, I can choose to throw my wheat germ at them, causing them to get disgusted and leave. When I use this (one-shot) ability, I'll simply have a fishbowl, which I'll pass on to someone when I die.
This is the first time that Bluesoul ever mentions that the bowl refills.
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I can't quote what CP said back to me... but it was something along the lines of Bluesoul had discussed his ability in more depth in the thread, but that he was going to let it go through anyway. The reason i haven't tried again on anyone else is that i know i'll have to be way more specific to meet CP's standards next time... and no one has really full claimed besides Bluesoul.
Bolding mine. He had done no such thing, considering he only mentioned this extra bit a few hundred posts after you said it had gone through. And thus a Unvote, Vote: Twomz.
Oh, a few more notes. The red text there is part of the search, black bolding is mine.
On Puzzle: Believable role, seems likely,and his record is pretty good. No scum there, I believe.
Mainly because I didn't trust you, as you were seeming more and more... desperate, I suppose. I needed more of a detail then something that might possibly be implied. This is a more definite lie, at least in my opinion.
Also, I'll probably be daykilled now thank to you guys.
My bet is on KCW and Avabob being also scum, so please get them.
I claimed an investigative role before you did. Why do you think I'm scum, because I thought you were? Do you have any "facts" besides the OMGUS factor?
The slip-up, could be ignorable, at least in my eyes. What I posted though is proof that Twomz lied about CP's pm saying that he let him though. Thus, my vote.
Also, I'll probably be daykilled now thank to you guys.
My bet is on KCW and Avabob being also scum, so please get them.
And similarly, why me?
I just pointed out that I thought that your case against Twomz, as written by you, didn't make enough sense. However, the case that TWS pointed out made alot more sense. Your examples weren't strong enough to convince me. That's all. I also admit that I had a bias against you, because I kind of was suspicious of you for targetting Chimp.
Anyway, now that you have claimed cop, I think that I am likely to believe you, that is, if there is no counterclaim. To help us susbstantiate your claim, what "interrogation" techniques do you use that are so violent? I think that they would probably be included in your pm, and answering this helps us find holes in your claim, if they exist. Note taht this changes nothing and gives us no more info than the chance to catch you lying. I think I believe you, but better safe than sorry, eh?
I'll need to dig up to confirm the rest but from the top of my head but I think I can already add some crappy vigging plan of a confirmed townie (Kenji) on day 1 and other stuff I need to dig (need to re-read to confirm that though).
What? Speaking of lying, I never said any such thing. You've got the wrong man there, chief, I was just talking about whether Kenji was really confirmed. I never, ever, ever said anything about vigging him.
Also, I'm suspicious of Puzzle's claim because it doesn't fit the "dual-role" nature the other ones do. For example, I have:
an investigative ability
an ability that triggers off me finding a certain person
a lose condition
While you have:
an investigative ability with a drawback
Does anyone else find this out of sync with the way the roles are laid out?
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It doesn't look like you have a really convenient means of killing him at the moment.
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I have a deal Puzzle. You claim (full claim) and i'll send it in to CP. If tonight i recieve your choice of who you targetted, you're clear, and i'm clear. Deal?
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Couldn't it be a mafia ability, though? Confirming your ability isn't the same as confirming your alignment, is it?
Bluesoul, I'm not promising I'll target you, but if I do don't kill me okay.
Um, yeah. What kind of "deal" is that? YOu're rather quick to go around "clearing" people, considering you're NOT a Cop role.
COuld someone explain better why Diggy stealing a vote makes him clear? Is it just because you think that's too powerful for a mafia? It doesn't seem like that to me, but maybe i'm missing something.
Alright, it looks like Twomz is having a hard time keeping his story straight. I think I've seen enough. Unvote, Vote: Twomz.
@TWS: I still think your role is stupid.
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Well, since no one is going to believe my ability, making me trying to use it pointless... would you like me to full claim before you lynch me? I'd prefer if i lived on threw night, so i can do some good for the town. (Yes, i have been hiding part of my ability... i thought it was better for the town that way... but if revealing it will help the town, i'll do it.)
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I'm Slartibartfast. Every night/day cycle i recieve one role "delay." I believe it postpones an ability for 2 days, but i'm not sure. I may also save up these (which i have been doing) for each cycle... which means, that i have 3 saved up. I can also take one guess per person at their ability and name. I need to be as correct as possible in my guess. If i'm correct, i will be told when they use their ability, and given a chance to use one of my roleblocks to delay it.
There... my whole ability... paraphrased as close as i can get it. I'm also willing to quote it directly if i reach a majority, since it doesn't seem like the full roles are being revealed.
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As for Twomz... I don't think hes scum. I think hes been playing horribly, but I don't think hes scum... so no vote for now.
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1. Thats not established neccessarily. I can see where CP would allow his ability to go through, even without specifically saying that the giving of the fishbowl would give them the ability. After all, what would the point of it be if it didn't. Admittedly this is bad against him, but I believe him.
2/3. Yeah, hes acted pretty scummy, but in a sense he is a watcher and roleblocker (assuming his claims are true), and I don't believe hes scum, just as a matter of sense.
In short, I don't think hes scum, and based on my own survival I'm going to look elsewhere. But if the town think hes the best lynch, then go right ahead, I won't object.
I'm highly, highly suspicous of AH, and I'm hoping to do an analysis today at some point, so that I can have some concrete examples to point to.
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Now that i'm "caught in the open," it really doesn't matter to me. It seems like most townies in this game are either lurking, or following scumlike players on nitpick lynches.
I'm going to Vote: Puzzle because i'm pretty darn sure he's scum. If y'all would like to look over the facts and see the logic of it yourselves go ahead... if not, go ahead and lynch me, at least then i can show you that Puzzle was just trying to get an easy town lynch and save himself for one more day.
@ CP/eddy?: If a majority is reached on me, and i post a quote of my role during the twilight, will i be modkilled thus continuing the game, or will the day end in my lynch, w/ a joint modkill added?
Also, if i die, i will at least use up my 3 blocks... probably on TWS, Puzzle and AH... TWS in order to stop neutral schnangins (sp?) and Puzzle and AH as a slap on the wrist for being stubborn scums. (I'm pretty sure it will delay any (or at least the first i think) triggered or static abilities for the next day/night phase... so you may be able to lynch TWS... i'm not sure).
I'd also like to apologize to the town. Kenji, diggy, KCW, Holmes, ?WoLG?, Abs, and ?PF?; I'm sorry i have a bad memory. Next game i'm in on salvation i'll be sure to keep a copy of my role up while i'm making my posts, to stop scum like puzzle from misusing my forgetfullness for the mafia's benefit.
I'll keep checking up as well... but i doubt any of my posts have had or will have much content unless something big comes up... Tchao.
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Unvote.
For some reason I'm buying this- I think it's the flavor as KCW pointed out. In any event, could you please clarify what it is you're doing, exactly, with this last post?
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2) Yes, i can block at anytime (i thought about useing one up on bluesoul, but decided against it)
3) Deathtrigger? No, i'll just PM CP w/ three choices during twilight if i'm lynched.
4) Basically, i'm stating my position on matters, and saying that i'm likely to only answer questions directed at me, and not post much more besides that... or at least that's what i'd like to do... but i'll end up posting just as much as i always do :-/. Also, i asked CP/Eddy? a question.
That's it in a nutshell... erm, thx for believing me... i guess. *shrug*
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1. No. From the beginning, he has maintained that it was hard for him to get confirmation from C_P. He said he almost didn't get bluesoul's role (or a chance to watch him, but I'll come back to this in a second.) He also said that C_P isn't going to let this happen again. Now, he hasn't changed his story here, and instead he has pointed out many times how hard it was for him to get his confirmation.
2. Kinda. At first, the watcher ability wasn't in his claim. But as the game has progressed, he has mentioned this many times. He has (other than the time you last pointed out) told everyone that he got a chance to see when people used their ability. So, no, it wasn't all of a sudden. I get the feeling that it was there from the beginning. And, if you claimed, and then he used his ability, and then he could see if you used it, then we would be able to obtain a lot more information and be able to tell if one of you is lying, if not both.
3. He didn't "withdraw" that. He still sticks to the fact that he can watch people once he has their entire role. Now, he said "roleblocker" mistakenly. In his pm, and how he explained it, he can delay any ability. This doesn't block it, but moves it instead. Now, this is new, and a bit suspicious. However, if it is true, it is a very powerful ability that benefits the town greatly. Anyway, it might be a tad bit too overpowerd to be true.
Nothing gives me tremendous confidence in him. I just think that your case against him is very weak and there are other leads. For one, I actually think you are looking scummier, and scummier with this attack on Twomz, but more importantly, I think pursuing A_H is actually much better.
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I'm not saying that, I'm saying that you're trying to manipulate people's perception of you as a "good player" to try and steer the town into lynching somoene who I believe is confirmed town.
Because you're repeatig half-truths with rhetoric and a sense of immediacy thrown in. For example:
He's already been over this many times; c_p decided to give it to him though the information wasn't quite complete. As he said, from now on he must have absolutely complete info.
Small distinction.
I wouldn't be so sure. It's also a very, very bad idea to venture into the realm of what the mod would or wouldn't do.
Except that his name is accurate and his character is almost guaranteed pro-town.
@ Puzzle: Stop Straw manning me. (I just remembered the wiki... the wiki be our friend :)).
Also, Bluesould did mention his passing the bowl ability before i sent in. I just don't feel like reading threw 50 pages of posts to find it right now. Also, it wasn't several pms to "watch" bluesoul. It was several pms to figure out small parts of my ability. Such as does guessing bs's ability count as a "target" (it doesn't).
Twomz's Trading thread
Well... here's the "list" of reasons i think your scummy.
1) A watcher caught you targetting a player that died.
2) You refuse to claim, and just ignore the situation.
3) You asked me a whole lot of questions and waited for me to make a small wording mistake so you could throw the towns bandwagon in my direction.
4) You're actually lying. (You said that Bluesoul didn't mention the bowl being passed before i sent in, when in fact he did, which to me is more of a lie than my little wording mistake.)
There's probably more... but i'll post the rest after you have a chance to respond to that.
Twomz's Trading thread
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Vote: Puzzle for pressure.
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So, Twomz did mention the Goldfish bowl then, however there was no mention of the refill ability. I believe this could've been implied... However:
This is the first time that Bluesoul ever mentions that the bowl refills.
Bolding mine. He had done no such thing, considering he only mentioned this extra bit a few hundred posts after you said it had gone through. And thus a Unvote, Vote: Twomz.
Oh, a few more notes. The red text there is part of the search, black bolding is mine.
On Puzzle: Believable role, seems likely,and his record is pretty good. No scum there, I believe.
* draygn_mage tries frantically to wipe the bullseye off his back.
Well, its not mod clearance, but it'll do.
I claimed an investigative role before you did. Why do you think I'm scum, because I thought you were? Do you have any "facts" besides the OMGUS factor?
And similarly, why me?
I just pointed out that I thought that your case against Twomz, as written by you, didn't make enough sense. However, the case that TWS pointed out made alot more sense. Your examples weren't strong enough to convince me. That's all. I also admit that I had a bias against you, because I kind of was suspicious of you for targetting Chimp.
Anyway, now that you have claimed cop, I think that I am likely to believe you, that is, if there is no counterclaim. To help us susbstantiate your claim, what "interrogation" techniques do you use that are so violent? I think that they would probably be included in your pm, and answering this helps us find holes in your claim, if they exist. Note taht this changes nothing and gives us no more info than the chance to catch you lying. I think I believe you, but better safe than sorry, eh?
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What? Speaking of lying, I never said any such thing. You've got the wrong man there, chief, I was just talking about whether Kenji was really confirmed. I never, ever, ever said anything about vigging him.
Also, I'm suspicious of Puzzle's claim because it doesn't fit the "dual-role" nature the other ones do. For example, I have:
- an investigative ability
- an ability that triggers off me finding a certain person
- a lose condition
While you have:- an investigative ability with a drawback
Does anyone else find this out of sync with the way the roles are laid out?