Someone already started with the Seinfield stories skits earlier, and I think you've taken liberty with that to create your own fake role.
Secondly, you're a Duke fan. Die.
EBWODP: Actually, I've gone back and read, you're the one who was mimicking the stand-up before day 1 started. Doesn't take away from my doubt that you're making this up.
Wow. Sigged.:tongue3:
But for clarification, I should state what Fayul means (I think). Essentially, he means that you screwed up. Royally. See Random 2, where I made the largest mistake of my career. Then I was killed Night 1 after claiming townie Day 1. Derf.
Here's a hint. Do NOT say anything about your ability unless you are near lynchdom. Even then, you'll end up with something like this. I'm sorry, but I have to Vote Loran. Here's to not doing that again.:cool2:
Someone already started with the Seinfield stories skits earlier, and I think you've taken liberty with that to create your own fake role.
Secondly, you're a Duke fan. Die.
EBWODP: Actually, I've gone back and read, you're the one who was mimicking the stand-up before day 1 started. Doesn't take away from my doubt that you're making this up.
Oh, and you're still a Duke fan.
I'm not a Duke Fan, I go to duke. It pretty much is therefore necessary I root for them.
And yes i did mimic the stand up before day 1. I knew my role then, and started acting a lil early. Oh well.
And FoS Fayul for voting me without actually giving much of a reason besides a reference i dont understand (Havent gone through ALL of the mafia games here,l sigh).
And Hawkeye, I have called attention to myself for a reason. Im not completely stupid, I have my reasoning.
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Take it from me, personally, this is not a good idea. I can't elaborate more, but I'm sure you've read other threads.
Errr, Trust me, I know what Im doing. If I get lynched its more like the town loses half a townie due to the fact that I can't vote. Of course theyd also lose their lynch for the day (Whoops).
If Im not lynched despite my attention, well then my ability should make me quite useful during the night.
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Interesting that we have jumped straight into day for this game (outside newbies mafia usually starts at night doesn't it?). That leaves us with no information besides what loran is posting. I've been thinking that is why he actually has to post it - it creates an interesting way to get the game going without the conventional night one beginning - if this was intentional it's very clever moddery.
Regardless, the way in which he has done it is quite odd and makes me a little suspicious. FoS loran16 I'm not at all comfortable voting for him yet though- further explanation (if possible) should be allowed first..
Are there any Seinfeld buffs playing? - I'm not particularly familiar with it and they could really help out later.
Wow. Sigged.:tongue3:
But for clarification, I should state what Fayul means (I think). Essentially, he means that you screwed up. Royally. See Random 2, where I made the largest mistake of my career. Then I was killed Night 1 after claiming townie Day 1. Derf.
Here's a hint. Do NOT say anything about your ability unless you are near lynchdom. Even then, you'll end up with something like this. I'm sorry, but I have to Vote Loran. Here's to not doing that again.:cool2:
Huh. I missed that one. I've been only looking throught the interesting looking threads (Blind maf 1 and 2, Newb maf 5, High school and world dom mafias.). So I've missed that one.
And Meanwhile, Since i seem to be a target I want to point something out to yall.
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Actually, since ive now been forthcoming that ive had an ability, I'd like to make it clear to WHOEVER IS THE DOC (and dont reveal yourself btw), DO NOT PROTECT ME TONIGHT! My ability doesnt work out if you do so. Quite Irritating, having two restrictions (Not voting and not being useful if the doc protects me.). Thanks mod, its been a great first game!
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Why would i say that if i was mafia? If im mafia id rather the doc protect me, so that no townies were safe. It makes no sense! And if i'm lying about my abiliity, Why would i say that if im a townie? Wouldnt i want protection?
This comment makes no sense unless Im telling the truth.
[quote=Passdog]Interesting that we have jumped straight into day for this game (outside newbies mafia usually starts at night doesn't it?). That leaves us with no information besides what loran is posting. I've been thinking that is why he actually has to post it - it creates an interesting way to get the game going without the conventional night one beginning - if this was intentional it's very clever moddery.
Regardless, the way in which he has done it is quite odd and makes me a little suspicious. FoS loran16 I'm not at all comfortable voting for him yet though- further explanation (if possible) should be allowed first..
Are there any Seinfeld buffs playing? - I'm not particularly familiar with it and they could really help out later.
Thank you Passdog. Im a seinfeld buff myself (thus why im quite happy to be quoting his stand up in my first post of each day :-).) What do you want to know? Names of the characters? Repeating Guest Stars? I mean, you could always look at Wikipedia if you're really interested.
I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
loran16: Why? I mean, WHY? vote:loran16
If you ability was so good why did you admit to having it. The only reason I'd claim like that was if I was a "you kill me I kill you" type role. I think that a full claim might be for the best at this point, so there isn't a mis-lynch.
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Why would i say that if i was mafia? If im mafia id rather the doc protect me, so that no townies were safe. It makes no sense! And if i'm lying about my abiliity, Why would i say that if im a townie? Wouldnt i want protection?
This comment makes no sense unless Im telling the truth.
And there comes a point in every Mafia game where someone has to bring up WIFOM. This is that point.
Furthermore, let's also look at the possibility that you're Mafia. You don't really need protection (since only the vig or SK could kill you), and it's very unlikely that the Mafia kill on an early night is going to be stopped by the doc (unless a power role comes out). So there's no harm in you not getting protection, and there's no strong reason you would want protection.
In any case, even though loran seems scummy, I'm willing to regard it as possible newbieness, partly because the bandwagon formed so fast. I would be greatly surprised if there weren't some scum on that wagon.
I think that this was the fastest wagon in history. I know we're only on page 5, but I think I may have to re-read and figure out just what the heck is happening.
Possible newbieness indeed - but a newbie scum could make exactly that error.
However, an important lesson the town learned in WD2 Mafia is that it is very bad to lynch fast. The town has the luxury of time, so nobody should be lynching loran16 right now even if we think he is scum.
We may not have a night to discuss, but there are other topics we might well benefit from discussing.
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loran16: Why? I mean, WHY? vote:loran16
If you ability was so good why did you admit to having it. The only reason I'd claim like that was if I was a "you kill me I kill you" type role. I think that a full claim might be for the best at this point, so there isn't a mis-lynch.
My ability IS NOT THAT GOOD. Its why i was glaring eyes at the mod earlier. When your ability requires you to both DRAW ATTENTION to your ABILITY and FORGO Doc protection, it already sucks. The fact that I can't vote makes it far worse.
Trust me I hate this ability. And thanks fadeblue. I didnt know what WIFOM meant when i saw it used a bunch in the other threads. The link is helpful. Hmm, eek, Ive made myself seem scummier alright. Whoops!
Do I have 5 or 6 votes right now? If i hit 8 I'll full claim, which would be sad cause my ability would bite the dust. Meh. I hate you Mod.
Ya kow what, actually ill at least name claim. I am Jerry Seinfeld. (You figure someone would have this name in the game, so I can't really be lying about that.)
Errr, since im unders suspicion, If you're waiting for a response to another new accusation, Youll have to wait. I have to go to a meeting right now, and might not be back for a while. Ill try to be back by 12 EST, but I cant promise anything.
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You're at five at my count. =/ umvote loran This wagon isn't really based on anything. The claim is good enough for me. vote: DYH People with three word names are annoying.
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What?? sash, you first join the wagon, then jump off saying it's not based on anything, then go back to random voting when we're well beyond that point? Vote Ximbad just on principle.
Time for a re-read.
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Ximbad always looks scummy, no matter how much he changes his username.
FoS: Ximbad anyway.
bateleur's law of mafia: Ximbad always looks scummy even when you take into account that Ximbad always looks scummy.
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What?? sash, you first join the wagon, then jump off saying it's not based on anything, then go back to random voting when we're well beyond that point? Vote Ximbad just on principle.
Time for a re-read.
(And note to loran16: Please stop double-posting.)
Sorry, will try and stop, but when i cant edit my posts it sometimes gets irritating when other msg while im typing.
Im back people if you want to talk to me.
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Loran, I want a reason why you should live. I'm willing to write this off as foolishness, but not without a reason, considering the contentions you've been making.
Fadeblue: Do you think this is Wine in Front of Me? Or just a mistake?
Let's examine it. Start with the main problem:
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My ability IS NOT THAT GOOD. Its why i was glaring eyes at the mod earlier. When your ability requires you to both DRAW ATTENTION to your ABILITY and FORGO Doc protection, it already sucks. The fact that I can't vote makes it far worse.
Trust me I hate this ability. And thanks fadeblue. I didnt know what WIFOM meant when i saw it used a bunch in the other threads. The link is helpful. Hmm, eek, Ive made myself seem scummier alright. Whoops!
Do I have 5 or 6 votes right now? If i hit 8 I'll full claim, which would be sad cause my ability would bite the dust. Meh. I hate you Mod.
Ya kow what, actually ill at least name claim. I am Jerry Seinfeld.
(emphasis added)
Okay...if he's Jerry Seinfeld (who would probably the main focus of Seinfeld Mafia, right?), then why would he have such significant limitations on himself, while not giving him anything useful?
Loran-do NOT full claim yet. The name claim was dangerous, especially because this means that you're probably Town. Which reinforces what a precarious position you're in.
You're required to draw attention to yourself, though?
Sigh. Unvote. For now, your reasons are clear.
FOS Ximbad for everything stated. You aren't sinning seriously, but you're a better player than that.
Loran, I want a reason why you should live. I'm willing to write this off as foolishness, but not without a reason, considering the contentions you've been making.
Fadeblue: Do you think this is Wine in Front of Me? Or just a mistake?
Let's examine it. Start with the main problem:
(emphasis added)
Okay...if he's Jerry Seinfeld (who would probably the main focus of Seinfeld Mafia, right?), then why would he have such significant limitations on himself, while not giving him anything useful?
Loran-do NOT full claim yet. The name claim was dangerous, especially because this means that you're probably Town. Which reinforces what a precarious position you're in.
You're required to draw attention to yourself, though?
Sigh. Unvote. For now, your reasons are clear.
FOS Ximbad for everything stated. You aren't sinning seriously, but you're a better player than that.
Errr, As a newb can someone explain the scumminess of jumping OFF a bandwagon? While the random vote is rather pointless, note that since we had no night 1, we dont really have much to base votes on, except for my bandwagon.
Anyhow, Looking at the players on my bandwagon and those not on it, the two players who strike me as suspicous are DYH and Fayul. Fayul jumped on the first notion of me being suspicious (brought up by Bat), and DYH followed quickly. Fayul's explanation was kind random and confusing till Xyre explained it, and in fact it wasn't much of an explanation. I think it was the fact that Xyre had once claimed eraly and been mafia, and thus i was mafia.
DYH cited one reason, realized that it couldnt be true (he reasoned that someone had already copied a standoff routine before and i was copying them, but it was I who did do in fact the original standup quote), and still Voted for me. He also added in the whole Duke thing twice, which i find rather something likely to divert ones' attention from the lack of reasoning to the vote.
So right now I'm FOS FAYUL and FOS DYH. Alpha, could you keep track of my Fos'? I cant vote so itd be nice for others to know where they lie. So currently DYH, Fayul and Holmes are FOSed by me.
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Fadeblue - 1 (Help, I'm a Bug)
Loran16 - 3 (DYH, Fayul, Holmes)
Disurpt_Your_Hymn - 1 (Ximbad)
Ximbad - 1 (Fadeblue)
Help, I'm a Bug - 1 (Chamber) (NOTE: You never unvoted)
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LORAN'S HAPPY-FUN-TIME FOS COUNT
DYH
Fayul
Holmes
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Actually, what's funny about that situation was that I was Town, and claimed Town. But early claims are seriously suspicious, Townie or not.
Errr, As a newb can someone explain the scumminess of jumping OFF a bandwagon? While the random vote is rather pointless, note that since we had no night 1, we dont really have much to base votes on, except for my bandwagon.
Sash is jumping off and on a bandwagon, voting randomly after the start of Day 1, and being fairly foolish. He's better than that. Musashi/Ximbad is actually a good player when he's trying.
Anyhow, Looking at the players on my bandwagon and those not on it, the two players who strike me as suspicous are DYH and Fayul. Fayul jumped on the first notion of me being suspicious (brought up by Bat), and DYH followed quickly. Fayul's explanation was kind random and confusing till Xyre explained it, and in fact it wasn't much of an explanation. I think it was the fact that Xyre had once claimed eraly and been mafia, and thus i was mafia.
DYH cited one reason, realized that it couldnt be true (he reasoned that someone had already copied a standoff routine before and i was copying them, but it was I who did do in fact the original standup quote), and still Voted for me. He also added in the whole Duke thing twice, which i find rather something likely to divert ones' attention from the lack of reasoning to the vote.
So right now I'm FOS FAYUL and FOS DYH. Alpha, could you keep track of my Fos'? I cant vote so itd be nice for others to know where they lie. So currently DYH, Fayul and Holmes are FOSed by me.
Keep an eye on your FOSs. FOSing often is dangerous to your standing. I'd bear off.
Wait, nm i just missed the end of loran's last post... but that would be some kinda awesome special ability eh?
Yeah i could imagine that pm: Loran16, you are the Master of Suspicion. While others may try to point fingers of supsicon, your finger is the only one that counts. Everyone else must vote to voice suspicion to a player, while you may simply say FoS.
That would be honestly the dumbest thing ive ever heard of lol.
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It would be amusing if in a game based on the 'show about nothing' the main character could do nothing (not vote at the least).
I don't like how some players mention that the rapidity of the loran 'wagon would suggest that there were a lot of scum on it and soon after Ximbad runs away from his vote starting another random vote.
Scum trying to get out of trouble?
Add to this that he tries to disarm us by claiming that the wagon isn't really based on anything, when he has been acting suspiciously (claiming so soon is odd) he really seems to be the most scummy to date.
On the basis that 'Musashibad' is an experienced player I am left with the feeling that his votes thus far have been calculated attempts to begin/continue/accelerate a 'wagon and then seem town.
It would be amusing if in a game based on the 'show about nothing' the main character could do nothing (not vote at the least).
I don't like how some players mention that the rapidity of the loran 'wagon would suggest that there were a lot of scum on it and soon after Ximbad runs away from his vote starting another random vote.
Scum trying to get out of trouble?
Add to this that he tries to disarm us by claiming that the wagon isn't really based on anything, when he has been acting suspiciously (claiming so soon is odd) he really seems to be the most scummy to date.
On the basis that 'Musashibad' is an experienced player I am left with the feeling that his votes thus far have been calculated attempts to begin/continue/accelerate a 'wagon and then seem town.
Vote Ximbad
I doubt it. I'm really just reprimanding him. He knows he's acting like a fool. He did start a bandwagon, but most bandwagons are usually pointless/ridiculous/irrelevant. Provided that they don't lynch a townie, which is where it becomes dangerous. But right now, there was no significant threat from the bandwagon on loran.
I don't really think anyone really thinks they have a good reason to vote for me.
unvote:dyh So anyone have any bright ideas on what to do?
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I don't really think anyone really thinks they have a good reason to vote for me.
unvote:dyh So anyone have any bright ideas on what to do?
Okay, I was still unconvinced of your possible scumminess, but now im curious, since unvoting in the fear of a lynch would be a very scummy thing to do. A townie thing to do, I would think, would be to justify your vote (ie saying that there was no other thing to do but random vote). so for that
FOS Ximbad/Musashi .
Now Holmes hasnt posted since his first attack on me, and id like to learn more, so UnFOS Holmes.
Note, since FoS' are more important to me, im going to take people off who i dont have enough info to be truly suspicous of them.
Current FoS' for Alpha's convenience:
DYH
Fayul
Ximbad
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Okay, I was still unconvinced of your possible scumminess, but now im curious, since unvoting in the fear of a lynch would be a very scummy thing to do. A townie thing to do, I would think, would be to justify your vote (ie saying that there was no other thing to do but random vote). so for that
I unvoted because the vote was is and always will be useless. It was a random vote that would only clutter up the vote count. I really shouldn't have made it, even though there was nothing wrong with it par se.
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Fadeblue - 1 (Help, I'm a Bug)
Loran16 - 3 (DYH, Fayul, Holmes)
Ximbad - 2 (Fadeblue, Passdog)
Help, I'm a Bug - 1 (Chamber) (NOTE: You never unvoted)
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Other people can FOS, I'm just obeying Loran's wishes by compiling his for him...they don't do anything, as in a normal game.
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Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
Duly noted. I'm just commenting on how he's FOSed at least four times so far.
Quoted for truthery.
Also, Loran, you're talking way too much. If you have an ability that isn't worth bringing up, why bring it up? You're telling the doc not to protect you? Well, no kidding. You've already stated you don't have a worthwhile ability, and then somewhere else you pointed out that your ability could be useful at night. Then I'm pretty sure I read something about your ability not working if you talked about it, but all you've done is talk. Aiyee, so many things here don't add up. I'm going out, so I'll do a re-read later, but my vote stands for now. You could have just done your Seinfeld bit at the beginning of the day and answered questions when/if they presented themselves. Going on and on with this circle of FoSes is just making you look, well, scummy.
You're at five at my count. =/ umvote loran This wagon isn't really based on anything. The claim is good enough for me. vote: DYH People with three word names are annoying.
Also, Loran, you're talking way too much. If you have an ability that isn't worth bringing up, why bring it up? You're telling the doc not to protect you? Well, no kidding. You've already stated you don't have a worthwhile ability, and then somewhere else you pointed out that your ability could be useful at night. Then I'm pretty sure I read something about your ability not working if you talked about it, but all you've done is talk. Aiyee, so many things here don't add up. I'm going out, so I'll do a re-read later, but my vote stands for now. You could have just done your Seinfeld bit at the beginning of the day and answered questions when/if they presented themselves. Going on and on with this circle of FoSes is just making you look, well, scummy.
As it is DYH, My only use to the town in the day is simply pointing out those who look fishy as I have NO VOTE. Thus why i asked alpha to keep track of mine. Meanwhile, you've just seemingly convinced me of my read on you. You seemed to be convinced that lynching me would be the good idea, even when i claim that I'm Jerry Seinfeld.
Meanwhile, I have not specifically mentioned my ability, so Im not going to say what it is. I can say i have one, obv. I told you the ability doesnt work if the Doc protects me at night.
As for my FoSes, I think Ximbad can go off the radar for now, as im not quite sure its worth looking into his random vote. Of course, im still not sure on Fayul, who voted for a suspicous person without giving a reason. Meanwhile You first bring up a reason to vote for me, have that reason proved wrong, and then keep the vote on me. Of course after i notice this, and a few people start to believe me, you decide to press further against me, AFTER I announced i believed something was scummy against you. If i could I would Vote DYH at this point, but since i cant vote, Ill simply say MAJOR FoS.
UnFOS Ximbad.
Upgrade FOS on DYH to Major FOS.
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FOS Count
Minor FOS Fayul (Still hasnt explained voting for the first person to have been pointed at, instead just voted.)
Major FOS DYH (Used obv bogus reason when voting for me, then continued to press on me after I mention your vote was lil fishy)
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Okay...I see the logic of using FOS as a vote, but let me get something across to you...
The FOS is short for Finger of Suspicion. At this point, you have at least three active FOSes. Logically, this means that you're pointing at three different people. If this was in real life, you'd be struggling to get that, considering that you probably only have two hands.:cool2:
I get why you're using FOS as a pseudo-vote, but you're looking like a jerk. I've never seen anyone float so many FOSes, and even if you're correct about Jerry, I can't understand why you're doing so much to draw suspicion.
Minor FOS Fayul (Still hasnt explained voting for the first person to have been pointed at, instead just voted.)
Major FOS DYH (Used obv bogus reason when voting for me, then continued to press on me after I mention your vote was lil fishy)
By this logic you should be FOSing everyone who bandwagoned you. That would be five people. If you FOS five people in a 20 person game, you're basically screaming "Lynch me, because I'm a paranoid townie who's just trying to cause trouble!"
I understand that it's your first game, and I digress-I've made these mistakes as well. But keep this in mind (bolded for emphasis):
The FOS is for suspicion, not retribution on people who you think are just out to get you. While you may be right on some FOSes, the ones where you are wrong will have a much greater effect on the game. The FOS is intended for use in only certain situations, to draw attention to scummy/suspicious behavior...not a way to punish bandwagoners!
I'll let you off with a warning on this. You're abusing your vulnerability, and it makes you look ridiculous.
Does anyone else find the prospect of Xyre schooling someone in mafia basics as hilarious as I do?
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Okay...I see the logic of using FOS as a vote, but let me get something across to you...
The FOS is short for Finger of Suspicion. At this point, you have at least three active FOSes. Logically, this means that you're pointing at three different people. If this was in real life, you'd be struggling to get that, considering that you probably only have two hands.:cool2:
I get why you're using FOS as a pseudo-vote, but you're looking like a jerk. I've never seen anyone float so many FOSes, and even if you're correct about Jerry, I can't understand why you're doing so much to draw suspicion.
By this logic you should be FOSing everyone who bandwagoned you. That would be five people. If you FOS five people in a 20 person game, you're basically screaming "Lynch me, because I'm a paranoid townie who's just trying to cause trouble!"
I understand that it's your first game, and I digress-I've made these mistakes as well. But keep this in mind (bolded for emphasis):
The FOS is for suspicion, not retribution on people who you think are just out to get you. While you may be right on some FOSes, the ones where you are wrong will have a much greater effect on the game. The FOS is intended for use in only certain situations, to draw attention to scummy/suspicious behavior...not a way to punish bandwagoners!
I'll let you off with a warning on this. You're abusing your vulnerability, and it makes you look ridiculous.
Actually Im not Fosing everyoen who voted for me for a reason. In fact I only FoSed Ximbad when he jumped off my bandwagon. If i was using it as retribution, Id have FoSed chambers, who admitted he was just voting not intending to lynch, or have Fosed you.
You see, the ONLY EVIDENCE we have of someones credibility is my behavior and their reactions to it. Fayul voted for me without actually saying any reasoning. It wasnt even a good post. Meanwhile, he hasnt posted since. Slightly suspicious to me.
DYH, Who is my major FOS is done because he first voted for me stating a reason and then refused to take it off when he realized the reason was false, and then reacted rediculously strongly and defensively when I voiced suspicion of him. I suspect he is scummy. I dont suspect any1 else who voted for me, their votes seem like the genuine reasonable votes of a townie.
I have TWO Foses right now, and they show the two people id dbe leaning toward voting for if i had a vote. I know what a finger of suspicion is. And the one's im pointing at right now are people i think whose behavior is quite scummy
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Minor FOS Fayul (Still hasnt explained voting for the first person to have been pointed at, instead just voted.)
Major FOS DYH (Used obv bogus reason when voting for me, then continued to press on me after I mention your vote was lil fishy)
Lol, fayul just voiced something as i posted. Still nothing about his vote.
I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Lies! -I'm Buffy Summers, town tracker. I used my ability on you and saw that you didn't use any abilities before the game started. My flavor is I was sucked through a mysterious space-time portal and I'm here to kill all the vampires, and my tracking ability is a combination of my Slayer and Native American skills.
I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen... Jerry Seinfeld.
"Okay ! Good night, good night everybody !
Well well well... I can't believe you made it.
I don't even know how you got tickets.
(man from the audience): Broker !
"Broker !" Not a very good one, I see. My guy got me right on stage.
This is the Broadhurst Theater. It's a... legendary theater, I know... nothing about it. I picked it because... (phone rings in the audience) Oh, let me get that, let me get that. That's for me, I asked them to hold my phone.
That is so embarrassing, isn't it ? I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often though, because it's hard to (whispering) "oh wait, put it on the vibrate only".
Oh the phones, what we have got nuts with the phones, haven't we ? We're crazy with the phones ! This guy thinks he needs that phone !
The thing that amuses me the most about the phone machine is how often we call people now, trying to get the machine. That's what's happened now with the machine. If it's the person that picks up, then you're... "oh !... I... oh I didn't... I didn't think you would be there... I... I just wanted to leave a message saying "Sorry I missed you" ".
Please yall, sit down. Lets not get too crazy with the voting so early.
Vote Loran16
And Holmes, shame on you for voting for someone with a vote already! FoS: Holmes.
FOSes: Holmes
Alludes to his role. Votes for himself, per necessity.
Holmes countervotes.
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Originally Posted by Holmes Wow. Someone more scummy than Passdog already. Voting for yourself and FOSing someone for their first vote.
Unvote: Passdog
Vote: Loran16
Scum! I mean it this time.
Actually, you'll soon see I didnt' vote for myself. Though your instant need to retaliate stinks.
Right Now our vote count, assuming no one else has voting restrictions is
Fadeblue: 1
Loran16: 1 (Holmes)
Passdog: 1
Help Im a bug: 1.
And no im not miscounting. I think like me you're a slight n00b in this game (I am too dont worry about it) so your retaliatory action is kind of unwarranted and unnecessary. Of course, you might just be mafia jumping on a suspicious person who has a "vote" already, but I doubt it. Its too n00bish an action even for a n00b like you and me.
And you shall soon see my "vote" for myself had a reason.
I love this. Loran is reprimanding Holmes for countervoting.
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Originally Posted by chamber Vote: Loran16 because I don't want to read through further skits making sure there is no hidden info.
But Im doing the skits for a reason! Dont vote me! I cant vote for you!
Unvote , Vote Chamber, You see, this WILL NOT come up as a vote for you.
Of course, this move is kind of MORE suspicous, jumping on someone who seems to have Two votes already is certainly a mafia bandwagon, and chamber is not a n00b at this.
FOS Chamber.
More allusions.
FOSed people:
Holmes
Chamber
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Originally Posted by chamber 1 you only had 1 vote on you when I put that vote on you, you said so. 2 that was clearly a random vote, do you honestly think I'd lynch someone over having to read through skits?(Hint: I wouldn't)
Ah, okay, i thought you hadnt seen my post about my vote not counting.
As for the skits, they actually do have to do with the game itself, i wouldnt try to spam normally. I'll try to limit those to one per game day. So probably no more for a while.
Of course chamber ill unFos you if you unvote me.
Bargaining. Allusions.
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errr, am i doing something weird?
Vote (That wont count) Help Im a Bug
Ah I love not being able to Vote! (Stares Deadly Eye-Stare into Mod,)
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Bantering between bateleur and Loran.
Fayul votes, DYH votes, Xyre votes,
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Originally Posted by Disrupt_Your_Hymn Vote: Loran16.
Someone already started with the Seinfield stories skits earlier, and I think you've taken liberty with that to create your own fake role.
Secondly, you're a Duke fan. Die.
EBWODP: Actually, I've gone back and read, you're the one who was mimicking the stand-up before day 1 started. Doesn't take away from my doubt that you're making this up.
Oh, and you're still a Duke fan.
I'm not a Duke Fan, I go to duke. It pretty much is therefore necessary I root for them.
And yes i did mimic the stand up before day 1. I knew my role then, and started acting a lil early. Oh well.
And FoS Fayul for voting me without actually giving much of a reason besides a reference i dont understand (Havent gone through ALL of the mafia games here,l sigh).
And Hawkeye, I have called attention to myself for a reason. Im not completely stupid, I have my reasoning.
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Originally Posted by Ximbad loran16: Why? I mean, WHY? vote:loran16
If you ability was so good why did you admit to having it. The only reason I'd claim like that was if I was a "you kill me I kill you" type role. I think that a full claim might be for the best at this point, so there isn't a mis-lynch.
My ability IS NOT THAT GOOD. Its why i was glaring eyes at the mod earlier. When your ability requires you to both DRAW ATTENTION to your ABILITY and FORGO Doc protection, it already sucks. The fact that I can't vote makes it far worse.
Trust me I hate this ability. And thanks fadeblue. I didnt know what WIFOM meant when i saw it used a bunch in the other threads. The link is helpful. Hmm, eek, Ive made myself seem scummier alright. Whoops!
Do I have 5 or 6 votes right now? If i hit 8 I'll full claim, which would be sad cause my ability would bite the dust. Meh. I hate you Mod.
Ya kow what, actually ill at least name claim. I am Jerry Seinfeld. (You figure someone would have this name in the game, so I can't really be lying about that.)
Errr, since im unders suspicion, If you're waiting for a response to another new accusation, Youll have to wait. I have to go to a meeting right now, and might not be back for a while. Ill try to be back by 12 EST, but I cant promise anything.
Okay-here's where I start getting on Loran's case.
More later. Oh, and thank you, Fayul. :tongue3:
Oh, my History of Foses? I thought you were talking about my current ones. OK. Yeah those i was throwing out like votes. Ive seen in the mafia games people randomly throwing around votes at the beginning, including fake retaliation. Of course I dont have the ability to do that, so i was using Foses.
My current FoSes are serious.
Thanks for clearing up on what you were taking about .
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Originally Posted by Xyre Loran, I want a reason why you should live. I'm willing to write this off as foolishness, but not without a reason, considering the contentions you've been making.
Fadeblue: Do you think this is Wine in Front of Me? Or just a mistake?
Let's examine it. Start with the main problem:
(emphasis added)
Okay...if he's Jerry Seinfeld (who would probably the main focus of Seinfeld Mafia, right?), then why would he have such significant limitations on himself, while not giving him anything useful?
Loran-do NOT full claim yet. The name claim was dangerous, especially because this means that you're probably Town. Which reinforces what a precarious position you're in.
You're required to draw attention to yourself, though?
Sigh. Unvote. For now, your reasons are clear.
FOS Ximbad for everything stated. You aren't sinning seriously, but you're a better player than that.
Errr, As a newb can someone explain the scumminess of jumping OFF a bandwagon? While the random vote is rather pointless, note that since we had no night 1, we dont really have much to base votes on, except for my bandwagon.
Anyhow, Looking at the players on my bandwagon and those not on it, the two players who strike me as suspicous are DYH and Fayul. Fayul jumped on the first notion of me being suspicious (brought up by Bat), and DYH followed quickly. Fayul's explanation was kind random and confusing till Xyre explained it, and in fact it wasn't much of an explanation. I think it was the fact that Xyre had once claimed eraly and been mafia, and thus i was mafia.
DYH cited one reason, realized that it couldnt be true (he reasoned that someone had already copied a standoff routine before and i was copying them, but it was I who did do in fact the original standup quote), and still Voted for me. He also added in the whole Duke thing twice, which i find rather something likely to divert ones' attention from the lack of reasoning to the vote.
So right now I'm FOS FAYUL and FOS DYH. Alpha, could you keep track of my Fos'? I cant vote so itd be nice for others to know where they lie. So currently DYH, Fayul and Holmes are FOSed by me.
Gets confused. Decides to FOS Fayul and DYH.
FOSed: Holmes, Chamber, Fayul, Fayul (again), Disrupt Your Hymm
I start warning Loran about excessive FOSing.
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Originally Posted by Ximbad I don't really think anyone really thinks they have a good reason to vote for me.
unvote:dyh So anyone have any bright ideas on what to do?
Okay, I was still unconvinced of your possible scumminess, but now im curious, since unvoting in the fear of a lynch would be a very scummy thing to do. A townie thing to do, I would think, would be to justify your vote (ie saying that there was no other thing to do but random vote). so for that
FOS Ximbad/Musashi .
Now Holmes hasnt posted since his first attack on me, and id like to learn more, so UnFOS Holmes.
Note, since FoS' are more important to me, im going to take people off who i dont have enough info to be truly suspicous of them.
Current FoS' for Alpha's convenience:
DYH
Fayul
Ximbad
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Originally Posted by Disrupt_Your_Hymn Quoted for truthery.
Also, Loran, you're talking way too much. If you have an ability that isn't worth bringing up, why bring it up? You're telling the doc not to protect you? Well, no kidding. You've already stated you don't have a worthwhile ability, and then somewhere else you pointed out that your ability could be useful at night. Then I'm pretty sure I read something about your ability not working if you talked about it, but all you've done is talk. Aiyee, so many things here don't add up. I'm going out, so I'll do a re-read later, but my vote stands for now. You could have just done your Seinfeld bit at the beginning of the day and answered questions when/if they presented themselves. Going on and on with this circle of FoSes is just making you look, well, scummy.
As it is DYH, My only use to the town in the day is simply pointing out those who look fishy as I have NO VOTE. Thus why i asked alpha to keep track of mine. Meanwhile, you've just seemingly convinced me of my read on you. You seemed to be convinced that lynching me would be the good idea, even when i claim that I'm Jerry Seinfeld.
Meanwhile, I have not specifically mentioned my ability, so Im not going to say what it is. I can say i have one, obv. I told you the ability doesnt work if the Doc protects me at night.
As for my FoSes, I think Ximbad can go off the radar for now, as im not quite sure its worth looking into his random vote. Of course, im still not sure on Fayul, who voted for a suspicous person without giving a reason. Meanwhile You first bring up a reason to vote for me, have that reason proved wrong, and then keep the vote on me. Of course after i notice this, and a few people start to believe me, you decide to press further against me, AFTER I announced i believed something was scummy against you. If i could I would Vote DYH at this point, but since i cant vote, Ill simply say MAJOR FoS.
UnFOS Ximbad.
Upgrade FOS on DYH to Major FOS.
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FOS Count
Minor FOS Fayul (Still hasnt explained voting for the first person to have been pointed at, instead just voted.)
Major FOS DYH (Used obv bogus reason when voting for me, then continued to press on me after I mention your vote was lil fishy)
FOSed: unchanged. Major FOS on DYH.
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Okay...I see the logic of using FOS as a vote, but let me get something across to you...
The FOS is short for Finger of Suspicion. At this point, you have at least three active FOSes. Logically, this means that you're pointing at three different people. If this was in real life, you'd be struggling to get that, considering that you probably only have two hands.:cool2:
I get why you're using FOS as a pseudo-vote, but you're looking like a jerk. I've never seen anyone float so many FOSes, and even if you're correct about Jerry, I can't understand why you're doing so much to draw suspicion.
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Minor FOS Fayul (Still hasnt explained voting for the first person to have been pointed at, instead just voted.)
Major FOS DYH (Used obv bogus reason when voting for me, then continued to press on me after I mention your vote was lil fishy)
By this logic you should be FOSing everyone who bandwagoned you. That would be five people. If you FOS five people in a 20 person game, you're basically screaming "Lynch me, because I'm a paranoid townie who's just trying to cause trouble!"
I understand that it's your first game, and I digress-I've made these mistakes as well. But keep this in mind (bolded for emphasis):
The FOS is for suspicion, not retribution on people who you think are just out to get you. While you may be right on some FOSes, the ones where you are wrong will have a much greater effect on the game. The FOS is intended for use in only certain situations, to draw attention to scummy/suspicious behavior...not a way to punish bandwagoners!
I'll let you off with a warning on this. You're abusing your vulnerability, and it makes you look ridiculous.
(double) It doesn't matter, Loran. I am irritated. I don't care what you may think a vote is. Mafia is, in the end, a respectful game. If you don't take it seriously, you won't be respected.:no:
Oh. I voted, then immediately unvoted. I'm not to the breaking point yet.:wink2:
Vote Loran. Unvote. If you do not stop, I WILL take significant action.
(heh. I feel like the League of Nations before WWII)
Errr, Holmes, Chamber, Sash are not FOSed. And read my post previous to yours, the others are like votes straight away used jokingly. Ive seen that quite a bit from the posts ive seen in previous mafia games. Im not quite sure if its right to do so or not, but since my votes dont count, it hought the Foses would be my way of doing so.
I think we're simply arguing proper conduct in a mafia game rather than role relevance. Right? (So Confused.)
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
You don't act persuasively if you point fingers everywhere. That's common logic.
Also-that final list is everyone you've FOSed in the first 100 posts of the game. That's significant. You've FOSed five different people. I quote myself:
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If you FOS five people in a 20 person game, you're basically screaming "Lynch me, because I'm a paranoid townie who's just trying to cause trouble!"
You don't act persuasively if you point fingers everywhere. That's common logic.
Also-that final list is everyone you've FOSed in the first 100 posts of the game. That's significant. You've FOSed five different people. I quote myself:
So are you that paranoid?
I believe ive gone and said that the two Fos' currently (Especially DYH) are serious, whereas Chambers and Holmes were kind of joking as in votes thrown around. Musashi's FoS was serious at the time. IM not convinced i have enough evidence to seriously suspect him, so i took it back.
Now can we get back to ingame things? Seriously?
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Someone already started with the Seinfield stories skits earlier, and I think you've taken liberty with that to create your own fake role.
Secondly, you're a Duke fan. Die.
EBWODP: Actually, I've gone back and read, you're the one who was mimicking the stand-up before day 1 started. Doesn't take away from my doubt that you're making this up.
Oh, and you're still a Duke fan.
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Wow. Sigged.:tongue3:
But for clarification, I should state what Fayul means (I think). Essentially, he means that you screwed up. Royally. See Random 2, where I made the largest mistake of my career. Then I was killed Night 1 after claiming townie Day 1. Derf.
Here's a hint. Do NOT say anything about your ability unless you are near lynchdom. Even then, you'll end up with something like this. I'm sorry, but I have to Vote Loran. Here's to not doing that again.:cool2:
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I'm not a Duke Fan, I go to duke. It pretty much is therefore necessary I root for them.
And yes i did mimic the stand up before day 1. I knew my role then, and started acting a lil early. Oh well.
And FoS Fayul for voting me without actually giving much of a reason besides a reference i dont understand (Havent gone through ALL of the mafia games here,l sigh).
And Hawkeye, I have called attention to myself for a reason. Im not completely stupid, I have my reasoning.
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Take it from me, personally, this is not a good idea. I can't elaborate more, but I'm sure you've read other threads.
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Errr, Trust me, I know what Im doing. If I get lynched its more like the town loses half a townie due to the fact that I can't vote. Of course theyd also lose their lynch for the day (Whoops).
If Im not lynched despite my attention, well then my ability should make me quite useful during the night.
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Regardless, the way in which he has done it is quite odd and makes me a little suspicious. FoS loran16 I'm not at all comfortable voting for him yet though- further explanation (if possible) should be allowed first..
Are there any Seinfeld buffs playing? - I'm not particularly familiar with it and they could really help out later.
Huh. I missed that one. I've been only looking throught the interesting looking threads (Blind maf 1 and 2, Newb maf 5, High school and world dom mafias.). So I've missed that one.
And Meanwhile, Since i seem to be a target I want to point something out to yall.
Thank you Passdog. Im a seinfeld buff myself (thus why im quite happy to be quoting his stand up in my first post of each day :-).) What do you want to know? Names of the characters? Repeating Guest Stars? I mean, you could always look at Wikipedia if you're really interested.
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If you ability was so good why did you admit to having it. The only reason I'd claim like that was if I was a "you kill me I kill you" type role. I think that a full claim might be for the best at this point, so there isn't a mis-lynch.
And there comes a point in every Mafia game where someone has to bring up WIFOM. This is that point.
Furthermore, let's also look at the possibility that you're Mafia. You don't really need protection (since only the vig or SK could kill you), and it's very unlikely that the Mafia kill on an early night is going to be stopped by the doc (unless a power role comes out). So there's no harm in you not getting protection, and there's no strong reason you would want protection.
In any case, even though loran seems scummy, I'm willing to regard it as possible newbieness, partly because the bandwagon formed so fast. I would be greatly surprised if there weren't some scum on that wagon.
However, an important lesson the town learned in WD2 Mafia is that it is very bad to lynch fast. The town has the luxury of time, so nobody should be lynching loran16 right now even if we think he is scum.
We may not have a night to discuss, but there are other topics we might well benefit from discussing.
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My ability IS NOT THAT GOOD. Its why i was glaring eyes at the mod earlier. When your ability requires you to both DRAW ATTENTION to your ABILITY and FORGO Doc protection, it already sucks. The fact that I can't vote makes it far worse.
Trust me I hate this ability. And thanks fadeblue. I didnt know what WIFOM meant when i saw it used a bunch in the other threads. The link is helpful. Hmm, eek, Ive made myself seem scummier alright. Whoops!
Do I have 5 or 6 votes right now? If i hit 8 I'll full claim, which would be sad cause my ability would bite the dust. Meh. I hate you Mod.
Ya kow what, actually ill at least name claim. I am Jerry Seinfeld. (You figure someone would have this name in the game, so I can't really be lying about that.)
Errr, since im unders suspicion, If you're waiting for a response to another new accusation, Youll have to wait. I have to go to a meeting right now, and might not be back for a while. Ill try to be back by 12 EST, but I cant promise anything.
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Time for a re-read.
(And note to loran16: Please stop double-posting.)
FoS: Ximbad anyway.
bateleur's law of mafia: Ximbad always looks scummy even when you take into account that Ximbad always looks scummy.
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I like to think of myself as some kind of defender of justice.
Sorry, will try and stop, but when i cant edit my posts it sometimes gets irritating when other msg while im typing.
Im back people if you want to talk to me.
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Fadeblue: Do you think this is Wine in Front of Me? Or just a mistake?
Let's examine it. Start with the main problem:
(emphasis added)
Okay...if he's Jerry Seinfeld (who would probably the main focus of Seinfeld Mafia, right?), then why would he have such significant limitations on himself, while not giving him anything useful?
Loran-do NOT full claim yet. The name claim was dangerous, especially because this means that you're probably Town. Which reinforces what a precarious position you're in.
You're required to draw attention to yourself, though?
Sigh. Unvote. For now, your reasons are clear.
FOS Ximbad for everything stated. You aren't sinning seriously, but you're a better player than that.
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Errr, As a newb can someone explain the scumminess of jumping OFF a bandwagon? While the random vote is rather pointless, note that since we had no night 1, we dont really have much to base votes on, except for my bandwagon.
Anyhow, Looking at the players on my bandwagon and those not on it, the two players who strike me as suspicous are DYH and Fayul. Fayul jumped on the first notion of me being suspicious (brought up by Bat), and DYH followed quickly. Fayul's explanation was kind random and confusing till Xyre explained it, and in fact it wasn't much of an explanation. I think it was the fact that Xyre had once claimed eraly and been mafia, and thus i was mafia.
DYH cited one reason, realized that it couldnt be true (he reasoned that someone had already copied a standoff routine before and i was copying them, but it was I who did do in fact the original standup quote), and still Voted for me. He also added in the whole Duke thing twice, which i find rather something likely to divert ones' attention from the lack of reasoning to the vote.
So right now I'm FOS FAYUL and FOS DYH. Alpha, could you keep track of my Fos'? I cant vote so itd be nice for others to know where they lie. So currently DYH, Fayul and Holmes are FOSed by me.
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
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FAX ME SOME HALIBUT-COUNT
Fadeblue - 1 (Help, I'm a Bug)
Loran16 - 3 (DYH, Fayul, Holmes)
Disurpt_Your_Hymn - 1 (Ximbad)
Ximbad - 1 (Fadeblue)
Help, I'm a Bug - 1 (Chamber) (NOTE: You never unvoted)
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10 to lynch..
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Siiiigh, Loran stop looking at me...
LORAN'S HAPPY-FUN-TIME FOS COUNT
DYH
Fayul
Holmes
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Have fun you guys!
-Alpha
Sash is jumping off and on a bandwagon, voting randomly after the start of Day 1, and being fairly foolish. He's better than that. Musashi/Ximbad is actually a good player when he's trying.
Keep an eye on your FOSs. FOSing often is dangerous to your standing. I'd bear off.
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Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Wait, nm i just missed the end of loran's last post... but that would be some kinda awesome special ability eh?
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Yeah i could imagine that pm: Loran16, you are the Master of Suspicion. While others may try to point fingers of supsicon, your finger is the only one that counts. Everyone else must vote to voice suspicion to a player, while you may simply say FoS.
That would be honestly the dumbest thing ive ever heard of lol.
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I don't like how some players mention that the rapidity of the loran 'wagon would suggest that there were a lot of scum on it and soon after Ximbad runs away from his vote starting another random vote.
Scum trying to get out of trouble?
Add to this that he tries to disarm us by claiming that the wagon isn't really based on anything, when he has been acting suspiciously (claiming so soon is odd) he really seems to be the most scummy to date.
On the basis that 'Musashibad' is an experienced player I am left with the feeling that his votes thus far have been calculated attempts to begin/continue/accelerate a 'wagon and then seem town.
Vote Ximbad
I doubt it. I'm really just reprimanding him. He knows he's acting like a fool. He did start a bandwagon, but most bandwagons are usually pointless/ridiculous/irrelevant. Provided that they don't lynch a townie, which is where it becomes dangerous. But right now, there was no significant threat from the bandwagon on loran.
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Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
unvote:dyh So anyone have any bright ideas on what to do?
Okay, I was still unconvinced of your possible scumminess, but now im curious, since unvoting in the fear of a lynch would be a very scummy thing to do. A townie thing to do, I would think, would be to justify your vote (ie saying that there was no other thing to do but random vote). so for that
FOS Ximbad/Musashi .
Now Holmes hasnt posted since his first attack on me, and id like to learn more, so UnFOS Holmes.
Note, since FoS' are more important to me, im going to take people off who i dont have enough info to be truly suspicous of them.
Current FoS' for Alpha's convenience:
DYH
Fayul
Ximbad
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FAX ME SOME HALIBUT-COUNT
Fadeblue - 1 (Help, I'm a Bug)
Loran16 - 3 (DYH, Fayul, Holmes)
Ximbad - 2 (Fadeblue, Passdog)
Help, I'm a Bug - 1 (Chamber) (NOTE: You never unvoted)
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10 to lynch..
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LORAN'S HAPPY-FUN-TIME FOS COUNT
DYH
Fayul
Ximbad
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-Alpha
(hint: having the only FOSes in the game is bad, Loran.)
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Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
-Alpha
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Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Quoted for truthery.
Also, Loran, you're talking way too much. If you have an ability that isn't worth bringing up, why bring it up? You're telling the doc not to protect you? Well, no kidding. You've already stated you don't have a worthwhile ability, and then somewhere else you pointed out that your ability could be useful at night. Then I'm pretty sure I read something about your ability not working if you talked about it, but all you've done is talk. Aiyee, so many things here don't add up. I'm going out, so I'll do a re-read later, but my vote stands for now. You could have just done your Seinfeld bit at the beginning of the day and answered questions when/if they presented themselves. Going on and on with this circle of FoSes is just making you look, well, scummy.
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Unvote
Fos: musashi
Your comments there don't add up.
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Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
As it is DYH, My only use to the town in the day is simply pointing out those who look fishy as I have NO VOTE. Thus why i asked alpha to keep track of mine. Meanwhile, you've just seemingly convinced me of my read on you. You seemed to be convinced that lynching me would be the good idea, even when i claim that I'm Jerry Seinfeld.
Meanwhile, I have not specifically mentioned my ability, so Im not going to say what it is. I can say i have one, obv. I told you the ability doesnt work if the Doc protects me at night.
As for my FoSes, I think Ximbad can go off the radar for now, as im not quite sure its worth looking into his random vote. Of course, im still not sure on Fayul, who voted for a suspicous person without giving a reason. Meanwhile You first bring up a reason to vote for me, have that reason proved wrong, and then keep the vote on me. Of course after i notice this, and a few people start to believe me, you decide to press further against me, AFTER I announced i believed something was scummy against you. If i could I would Vote DYH at this point, but since i cant vote, Ill simply say MAJOR FoS.
UnFOS Ximbad.
Upgrade FOS on DYH to Major FOS.
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FOS Count
Minor FOS Fayul (Still hasnt explained voting for the first person to have been pointed at, instead just voted.)
Major FOS DYH (Used obv bogus reason when voting for me, then continued to press on me after I mention your vote was lil fishy)
Logical Reasoning is dead; Long Live Stupidity
The FOS is short for Finger of Suspicion. At this point, you have at least three active FOSes. Logically, this means that you're pointing at three different people. If this was in real life, you'd be struggling to get that, considering that you probably only have two hands.:cool2:
I get why you're using FOS as a pseudo-vote, but you're looking like a jerk. I've never seen anyone float so many FOSes, and even if you're correct about Jerry, I can't understand why you're doing so much to draw suspicion.
By this logic you should be FOSing everyone who bandwagoned you. That would be five people. If you FOS five people in a 20 person game, you're basically screaming "Lynch me, because I'm a paranoid townie who's just trying to cause trouble!"
I understand that it's your first game, and I digress-I've made these mistakes as well. But keep this in mind (bolded for emphasis):
The FOS is for suspicion, not retribution on people who you think are just out to get you. While you may be right on some FOSes, the ones where you are wrong will have a much greater effect on the game. The FOS is intended for use in only certain situations, to draw attention to scummy/suspicious behavior...not a way to punish bandwagoners!
I'll let you off with a warning on this. You're abusing your vulnerability, and it makes you look ridiculous.
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Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Actually Im not Fosing everyoen who voted for me for a reason. In fact I only FoSed Ximbad when he jumped off my bandwagon. If i was using it as retribution, Id have FoSed chambers, who admitted he was just voting not intending to lynch, or have Fosed you.
You see, the ONLY EVIDENCE we have of someones credibility is my behavior and their reactions to it. Fayul voted for me without actually saying any reasoning. It wasnt even a good post. Meanwhile, he hasnt posted since. Slightly suspicious to me.
DYH, Who is my major FOS is done because he first voted for me stating a reason and then refused to take it off when he realized the reason was false, and then reacted rediculously strongly and defensively when I voiced suspicion of him. I suspect he is scummy. I dont suspect any1 else who voted for me, their votes seem like the genuine reasonable votes of a townie.
I have TWO Foses right now, and they show the two people id dbe leaning toward voting for if i had a vote. I know what a finger of suspicion is. And the one's im pointing at right now are people i think whose behavior is quite scummy
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Minor FOS Fayul (Still hasnt explained voting for the first person to have been pointed at, instead just voted.)
Major FOS DYH (Used obv bogus reason when voting for me, then continued to press on me after I mention your vote was lil fishy)
Lol, fayul just voiced something as i posted. Still nothing about his vote.
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FOS: Loran16...(excessive double posting)
-Alpha
Ouch, FoSed by the mod! Lolz.
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FOSes: Holmes
Alludes to his role. Votes for himself, per necessity.
Holmes countervotes.
I love this. Loran is reprimanding Holmes for countervoting.
More allusions.
FOSed people:
Holmes
Chamber
Bargaining. Allusions.
:wink2:
Bantering between bateleur and Loran.
Fayul votes, DYH votes, Xyre votes,
FOSed: Holmes, Chamber, Fayul.
Bantering, Passdog FOSes Loran, Silicon FOSes, Ximbad votes.
Fadeblue brings up Wine in Front of Me. This is IMPORTANT.
I talk to Fade about WIFOM.
LJustus and bateleur give warnings.
Claims that role is weakened and bad.
Sash unvotes on bandwagon. Votes DYH. Fadeblue votes Sash, Bateleur FOSes Sash.
Okay-here's where I start getting on Loran's case.
More later. Oh, and thank you, Fayul. :tongue3:
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Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
Oh, my History of Foses? I thought you were talking about my current ones. OK. Yeah those i was throwing out like votes. Ive seen in the mafia games people randomly throwing around votes at the beginning, including fake retaliation. Of course I dont have the ability to do that, so i was using Foses.
My current FoSes are serious.
Thanks for clearing up on what you were taking about .
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Gets confused. Decides to FOS Fayul and DYH.
FOSed: Holmes, Chamber, Fayul, Fayul (again), Disrupt Your Hymm
I start warning Loran about excessive FOSing.
FOSed: Holmes, Chamber, Fayul, Fayul, DYH, Ximbad (Musashi)
Sheesh.
FOSed: unchanged. Major FOS on DYH.
Final FOSed list: Holmes, Chamber, Fayul, Fayul, DYH, Sash, upgrades DYH.
Vote Loran. Unvote. If you do not stop, I WILL take significant action.
(heh. I feel like the League of Nations before WWII)
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Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Town/Mafia/Other - 14/6/3
Win/Lose/Tie - 11/12/0
Nk/lynched/Survived - 16/4/3
It doesn't matter, Loran. I am irritated. I don't care what you may think a vote is. Mafia is, in the end, a respectful game. If you don't take it seriously, you won't be respected.:no:
Oh. I voted, then immediately unvoted. I'm not to the breaking point yet.:wink2:
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Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Errr, Holmes, Chamber, Sash are not FOSed. And read my post previous to yours, the others are like votes straight away used jokingly. Ive seen that quite a bit from the posts ive seen in previous mafia games. Im not quite sure if its right to do so or not, but since my votes dont count, it hought the Foses would be my way of doing so.
I think we're simply arguing proper conduct in a mafia game rather than role relevance. Right? (So Confused.)
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Also-that final list is everyone you've FOSed in the first 100 posts of the game. That's significant. You've FOSed five different people. I quote myself:
So are you that paranoid?
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Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
I believe ive gone and said that the two Fos' currently (Especially DYH) are serious, whereas Chambers and Holmes were kind of joking as in votes thrown around. Musashi's FoS was serious at the time. IM not convinced i have enough evidence to seriously suspect him, so i took it back.
Now can we get back to ingame things? Seriously?
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