I'm here, I apologize if I haven't posted in what, ONE WHOLE DAY???? OMFGWTF HE HASNT POSTED IN A DAY HE MUST BE A SCUMMY mc SCUMMERSON!!!11111!!
Jesus H. Christ. Give me a ****ing break.
Vecna, don't worry, if I die no one will lynch you, trust me.
Axelrod: You still have not said 1 damn thing about why I should be lynched. You said that I random voted. It's day one, everyone random votes. You said that I voted for God Child based on a false assumption of seriousness. If it was meant to be funny, it wasn't particularly successful. Third, you said that I wasted my action on something silly, but at least I helped the town learn a bit more about what the actions do, didn't I?
Also, you seem to be calling me a n00b. I played on mafiascum.net for quite a while, although this is the first game I've played in some time.
Your arguments against me are really quite flimsy. You have no evidence whatsoever, and I know for a fact that you can't have any because I have a boring role.
ROLE CLAIM TIME: I'm a townie. A normal, run-of-the-mill townie. I realize that this is a favorite claim for scum, but that's what I am. If (maybe when) you guys lynch me, you will see that I'm telling you the truth.
Finally, I'd just like to say that Axelrod should be looked into very carefully when you lynch me. He's put up a cardboard argument that you all seem to have bought into for some completely random reason, and is probably just looking for an easy townie to kill.
And I can't even vote for him. Damn.
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Looking back, using his action to make a joke was really harmless. The actions are pretty useless IMO, we're not getting any real info out of them. Might as well get a laugh.
Good Grief. I don't suppose you'd care to explain that eci4?
Whatever. You know, I'm not on some kind of mission to lynch Prizm. I've been completely upfront about my reasoning. If you actually review the entire history (as opposed to, say, the last 4 posts) I don't think you can fault me. Fact is, I've been restraining myself, in the foolish hope that some of the non-participants would weigh in on the issue. But maybe saying nothing is the best way to stay alive in this game.
Hell, I can't help it. Prizm I have said exactly what my thoughts were at every stage. I didn't vote you because you "randomly" voted someone in your first post. I didn't vote you because you switched your vote to God Child and called his vote suspicious when it wasn't. I DID vote you when you threw away your action on top of those things (after we had already learned that actions could be valuable) Are you seriously saying that you were trying to help the town "learn" about actions with that move?
I also didn't call you a n00b. I said I saw no evidence of experience from your posts. Which was true, yes?
eci4 (I'll address this to you because of your post) I don't know Prizm's Mafia. But he's certainly suspicious. His post above and roleclaim is another example. It is, in fact, just the kind of post a mafia on the verge of being lynched would make (as even he acknowledges). If he's Mafia he has nothing at all to lose from a post like that, you see. He could also be just what he says. You can agree/disagree (seems like most people actually posting in this game agree at least somewhat) But let's be clear about our reasoning.
That's it. I'm really out until some other people say something. Do what you will.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Has anyone else got a vanilla townie role? I've got a very small ability that seems narrow, but an ability none the less. If Prizm is the only townie with no abilities, then I'm lynching him. It just doesn't fit.
I know I said I wouldn't (sue me)... But ditto what God Child said. Small, narrow ability here.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Axelrod, I dont see anyone lynching you right now.... If I dont act up on this thread every now and then, I won't be considered a lurker... and you know how horrible that is...
Anyone have any ideas for an action I should use? I'm having trouble thinking of something useful.
In pirate mafia, the only actions that had any relevance, really, were actions that you knew you could perform because of your role, or actions that were mini-inspections. I think you should do something like look carefully at Vecna.
Ged is the only blank right now I would consider for recruitment, but I would really rather check other people. Also, I doubt I am the only recruiter in this game
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Hmm. One vote away from lynch then? As it seems almost certain that I'll be lynched, I'd like to give some more reasons not to kill me. (yet)
1. Not everyone has used their actions. Could we at least agree that it would be dumb to end the day with unused actions still? Although I wasted mine, the rest of you can still try to get more information with yours.
2. There still isn't a good argument against me.
3. Please?
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Woah, I haven't posted in longer than I thought. First off, Unvote Prizm I had meant to do that long ago. blurg, I'm here... Prizm still doesn't deserve to die.
Not necesarilly everyone has or wants to use their actions, What about that?
What else do we have left today but to fell Prizm though... I'll hesitantly hover above the line of decision of Prizmvotage.
Prizm, I don't remember if you said earlier or not, but are you in a group?
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I did this in MSPaint, rocks, eh?
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Woah, I haven't posted in longer than I thought. First off, Unvote Prizm I had meant to do that long ago. blurg, I'm here... Prizm still doesn't deserve to die.
Not necesarilly everyone has or wants to use their actions, What about that?
What else do we have left today but to fell Prizm though... I'll hesitantly hover above the line of decision of Prizmvotage.
Prizm, I don't remember if you said earlier or not, but are you in a group?
1. Not everyone has used their actions. Could we at least agree that it would be dumb to end the day with unused actions still? Although I wasted mine, the rest of you can still try to get more information with yours.
I haven't used an action yet. Anybody have any good ideas on what I should try?
I haven't used an action yet. Anybody have any good ideas on what I should try?
Perhaps an action that in some way relates to your role? Don't do this, though, if it would give away too much information about your role.
From my recollection of the only other game I've played with an "action" system, actions rarely had any effect. In this game, though, experiance has shown that roles will ahve negative effact more often than positive, which I feel is bad for the game as it will reduce peoples' willingness to use actions.
Guess why:
A, there is a chance for the action to actually work, and it failed, or
B, I AM A DAMN MASON
How does this help your case? You're being *way* too hostile and defensive here. There's barely even any pressure on you right now! Do you have to repeat your roleclaim in every post?
I also get the feeling that you know much more about how this game works than the rest of us do. Out-of-game communication perhaps? Or did your PM just give you more information than any of us?
Or maybe I pounded and pounded at trebor until I finally got a tiny understanding, which the OMCL's deleted. Bah.
Sorry if I appear hostile, its just that the day is going very slowly and is getting nowhere, prizm is probably town, and I know I a town, yet I have been pressured two times today for no good reason.
Vote Eric Draven die
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Just so that you know, when I went to the bar, I overheard that Prizm was dumpsterdiving last night; for what, I don't know. If he could enlighten us, potentially, that would help me maybe vote for someone else.
Eric: Well, what do you expect from someone who runs naked in the streets? :smile:
Choco: I have no idea. I have no night action, so unless it has something to do with my dirty, dirty porno mags, I'm as lost as you.
Also: Eric, you play Munchkin? I love that game! </tangent>
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If hefner was a rich, gay, playboy and had hot steamy sex with hot guys would you choose him? Of course not, mainly because im a straight male and find that stuff gross.
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So, four days and a whole lot of nothing going on here. You know, I can understand people being reluctant to pull the trigger on Prizm, the evidence not being all that strong, but you could at least talk about it a little. Put up another suspect for examination. Yes, I know it's day one and we just don't have that much to go on, but it seems like too many are not even trying at all.
I have spent a long time reviewing the thread today and I will now put my money where my mouth is by presenting to you:
The Case Against Basementdwellers
Basementdwellers has posted a total of 4 (four) times in this game:
#14. Votes eci4 (random)
#34. Unvotes eci4, votes Vecna (says this is a joke vote)
#37. Unvotes Vecna (reason: remind me never to post when I'm drunk)
#65. I promise not to post when I'm drunk (a few votes are on him now)
And....that's it. His last post was on 1-7-05, more than a week ago. He also has (obviously) not used his action, either helpfully or as a joke. His posts have been even more worthless than Prizm's. Prizm, at least is still talking (though still not saying very much--come on man, do some analysis at least or something).
But that's not all! It's not just that Basementdwellers is not posting, but he's lurking. I have personally observed him, on no fewer that two occasions todayreading this very thread. So, he hasn't forgotten about the game. But still he says nothing. Why could this be?
Two possibilities: (1) he's town, (2) he's Mafia
If he's town, he must think Prizm is Mafia, is innocent, or he has no opinion. Why hasn't he said so? The vote has been all about Prizm for the past four days, and he's been close to being lynched, Clearly BD can't think Prizm is Mafia or he would have voted for him along with everyone else. But he also can't think Prizm is innocent, or else why not defend him. You don't want an innocent lynched if you are, yourself, town, right?
Maybe he has no opinion. Still, why not say so?
Possibility (2) he's mafia. He sees that the town is doing a fine job of lynching an innocent all by itself and needs no prodding or manipulating. So, he says nothing. Why should he? The more he posts, the greater the risk he says something that gives himself away. Also, people can get suspicious of those who put the lynching vote on someone if the victim turns out to be innocent. BD is a veteran of many games and probably knows this. So he thinks, why throw a late vote on there when he's probably getting lynched anyway. That makes BD look good later when Prizm is revealed to be innocent.
In summary:
He's had nothing of substance to say all game.
He hasn't posted since 1-7-05.
He's still lurking. Today!
It makes more sense for Mafia to be lurking if Prizm is innocent.
Heck, this case isn't that strong either. I could do a similar one against Unsan999 (who has only 2 posts in this game-but I can't personally vouch for the lurking part) In any event, as the vote against Prizm is going nowhere, and in an effort to stir things up I will:
Unvote Prizm
Vote Basementdwellers
Now get talking people!
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
OK. I'll say it. I have no opinion. There's no point in posting that as a statement. It adds nothing to the game.
I didn't (and won't) vote Prizm because I personally don't see the case against him. I mean what, he did a stupid action? So what? So did I (not in context of using this game's action ability, but by posting drunk). You guys all jumped on me for that too, though you guys didn't see fit to lynch me for it (yet at any rate).
As for my action, I'm not sure what to use it for.
So, yes, I've been lurking. Sorry. I'll make sure to post every day with a post saying "No comment yet"
Well, that got a quick response, didn't it? Sounds a little like someone trying to cut off any further debate. Also, saying you have no opinion is different from saying that you think the case against Prizm is weak--that is an opinion.
You also know (or should know) full well that it isn't pointless to express an opinion (such as "I don't see the case against him") It certainly does add to the game, and, more importantly, it becomes relevant later when people start getting lynched and people look back at the actions and opinions others have expressed.
I must say, that wasn't particularly persuasive IMHO. But, at least you posted.:) Got any other opinions?
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Sounds like good enough reasons as any to lynch somone on Day 1, and we really do need to get this game moving along. Besides, if basementswellers does get lynched and ends up being a townie, it makes a strong case for Axelrod being mafia.
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I'm here, I apologize if I haven't posted in what, ONE WHOLE DAY???? OMFGWTF HE HASNT POSTED IN A DAY HE MUST BE A SCUMMY mc SCUMMERSON!!!11111!!
Jesus H. Christ. Give me a ****ing break.
Vecna, don't worry, if I die no one will lynch you, trust me.
Axelrod: You still have not said 1 damn thing about why I should be lynched. You said that I random voted. It's day one, everyone random votes. You said that I voted for God Child based on a false assumption of seriousness. If it was meant to be funny, it wasn't particularly successful. Third, you said that I wasted my action on something silly, but at least I helped the town learn a bit more about what the actions do, didn't I?
Also, you seem to be calling me a n00b. I played on mafiascum.net for quite a while, although this is the first game I've played in some time.
Your arguments against me are really quite flimsy. You have no evidence whatsoever, and I know for a fact that you can't have any because I have a boring role.
ROLE CLAIM TIME: I'm a townie. A normal, run-of-the-mill townie. I realize that this is a favorite claim for scum, but that's what I am. If (maybe when) you guys lynch me, you will see that I'm telling you the truth.
Finally, I'd just like to say that Axelrod should be looked into very carefully when you lynch me. He's put up a cardboard argument that you all seem to have bought into for some completely random reason, and is probably just looking for an easy townie to kill.
And I can't even vote for him. Damn.
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Looking back, using his action to make a joke was really harmless. The actions are pretty useless IMO, we're not getting any real info out of them. Might as well get a laugh.
vote axelrod
Whatever. You know, I'm not on some kind of mission to lynch Prizm. I've been completely upfront about my reasoning. If you actually review the entire history (as opposed to, say, the last 4 posts) I don't think you can fault me. Fact is, I've been restraining myself, in the foolish hope that some of the non-participants would weigh in on the issue. But maybe saying nothing is the best way to stay alive in this game.
Hell, I can't help it. Prizm I have said exactly what my thoughts were at every stage. I didn't vote you because you "randomly" voted someone in your first post. I didn't vote you because you switched your vote to God Child and called his vote suspicious when it wasn't. I DID vote you when you threw away your action on top of those things (after we had already learned that actions could be valuable) Are you seriously saying that you were trying to help the town "learn" about actions with that move?
I also didn't call you a n00b. I said I saw no evidence of experience from your posts. Which was true, yes?
eci4 (I'll address this to you because of your post) I don't know Prizm's Mafia. But he's certainly suspicious. His post above and roleclaim is another example. It is, in fact, just the kind of post a mafia on the verge of being lynched would make (as even he acknowledges). If he's Mafia he has nothing at all to lose from a post like that, you see. He could also be just what he says. You can agree/disagree (seems like most people actually posting in this game agree at least somewhat) But let's be clear about our reasoning.
That's it. I'm really out until some other people say something. Do what you will.
Ged-1-(Occam's razor)
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In pirate mafia, the only actions that had any relevance, really, were actions that you knew you could perform because of your role, or actions that were mini-inspections. I think you should do something like look carefully at Vecna.
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I guess everybody fell asleep already.
Action: hynotize remaining cop and LOOT the town...[/notaction]
Seriously
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I unvoted for Prizm back in post 211
1. Not everyone has used their actions. Could we at least agree that it would be dumb to end the day with unused actions still? Although I wasted mine, the rest of you can still try to get more information with yours.
2. There still isn't a good argument against me.
3. Please?
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Not necesarilly everyone has or wants to use their actions, What about that?
What else do we have left today but to fell Prizm though... I'll hesitantly hover above the line of decision of Prizmvotage.
Prizm, I don't remember if you said earlier or not, but are you in a group?
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He claimed 100% vanilla townie.
I haven't used an action yet. Anybody have any good ideas on what I should try?
Perhaps an action that in some way relates to your role? Don't do this, though, if it would give away too much information about your role.
From my recollection of the only other game I've played with an "action" system, actions rarely had any effect. In this game, though, experiance has shown that roles will ahve negative effact more often than positive, which I feel is bad for the game as it will reduce peoples' willingness to use actions.
Ged-1-(Occam's razor)
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Prizm-10-( Solistus, 20Bux, Matt, Eric Draven, Choco, help im a bug, jon, ged, Axelrod, kaabak)
Axelrod-1-(eci4)
Guess why:
A, there is a chance for the action to actually work, and it failed, or
B, I AM A DAMN MASON
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How does this help your case? You're being *way* too hostile and defensive here. There's barely even any pressure on you right now! Do you have to repeat your roleclaim in every post?
I also get the feeling that you know much more about how this game works than the rest of us do. Out-of-game communication perhaps? Or did your PM just give you more information than any of us?
Sorry if I appear hostile, its just that the day is going very slowly and is getting nowhere, prizm is probably town, and I know I a town, yet I have been pressured two times today for no good reason.
Vote Eric Draven die
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Choco: I have no idea. I have no night action, so unless it has something to do with my dirty, dirty porno mags, I'm as lost as you.
Also: Eric, you play Munchkin? I love that game! </tangent>
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In more ways than one...
I still have no reason to want Prizm dead. He appears as clean as I can tell, and I can't even test my role on him.
Chinmo wa kesshi.te hibikimasen.
There is really no reason for me having voted for him
Unvote Prizm, he seems too straight for me..............
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But for the time being I'll unvote Prizm.
If you are a vanilla townie, than night-tight garbage inspections shouldn't happen. I suspect you. In fact, I FoS you.
I have spent a long time reviewing the thread today and I will now put my money where my mouth is by presenting to you:
The Case Against Basementdwellers
Basementdwellers has posted a total of 4 (four) times in this game:
#14. Votes eci4 (random)
#34. Unvotes eci4, votes Vecna (says this is a joke vote)
#37. Unvotes Vecna (reason: remind me never to post when I'm drunk)
#65. I promise not to post when I'm drunk (a few votes are on him now)
And....that's it. His last post was on 1-7-05, more than a week ago. He also has (obviously) not used his action, either helpfully or as a joke. His posts have been even more worthless than Prizm's. Prizm, at least is still talking (though still not saying very much--come on man, do some analysis at least or something).
But that's not all! It's not just that Basementdwellers is not posting, but he's lurking. I have personally observed him, on no fewer that two occasions today reading this very thread. So, he hasn't forgotten about the game. But still he says nothing. Why could this be?
Two possibilities: (1) he's town, (2) he's Mafia
If he's town, he must think Prizm is Mafia, is innocent, or he has no opinion. Why hasn't he said so? The vote has been all about Prizm for the past four days, and he's been close to being lynched, Clearly BD can't think Prizm is Mafia or he would have voted for him along with everyone else. But he also can't think Prizm is innocent, or else why not defend him. You don't want an innocent lynched if you are, yourself, town, right?
Maybe he has no opinion. Still, why not say so?
Possibility (2) he's mafia. He sees that the town is doing a fine job of lynching an innocent all by itself and needs no prodding or manipulating. So, he says nothing. Why should he? The more he posts, the greater the risk he says something that gives himself away. Also, people can get suspicious of those who put the lynching vote on someone if the victim turns out to be innocent. BD is a veteran of many games and probably knows this. So he thinks, why throw a late vote on there when he's probably getting lynched anyway. That makes BD look good later when Prizm is revealed to be innocent.
In summary:
He's had nothing of substance to say all game.
He hasn't posted since 1-7-05.
He's still lurking. Today!
It makes more sense for Mafia to be lurking if Prizm is innocent.
Heck, this case isn't that strong either. I could do a similar one against Unsan999 (who has only 2 posts in this game-but I can't personally vouch for the lurking part) In any event, as the vote against Prizm is going nowhere, and in an effort to stir things up I will:
Unvote Prizm
Vote Basementdwellers
Now get talking people!
I didn't (and won't) vote Prizm because I personally don't see the case against him. I mean what, he did a stupid action? So what? So did I (not in context of using this game's action ability, but by posting drunk). You guys all jumped on me for that too, though you guys didn't see fit to lynch me for it (yet at any rate).
As for my action, I'm not sure what to use it for.
So, yes, I've been lurking. Sorry. I'll make sure to post every day with a post saying "No comment yet"
You also know (or should know) full well that it isn't pointless to express an opinion (such as "I don't see the case against him") It certainly does add to the game, and, more importantly, it becomes relevant later when people start getting lynched and people look back at the actions and opinions others have expressed.
I must say, that wasn't particularly persuasive IMHO. But, at least you posted.:) Got any other opinions?
Sounds like good enough reasons as any to lynch somone on Day 1, and we really do need to get this game moving along. Besides, if basementswellers does get lynched and ends up being a townie, it makes a strong case for Axelrod being mafia.
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