1) This round is "I Grant Your Wish!" round. This round, you have a free 4th card - any other Wish cards from Judgement, or the Glittering Wish card from Future Sight. Playing the Wish is free (and cost modifiers will not change it's freeness), but you must pay to play the card you Wished for. You have a 2 card sideboard to Wish from. Channel is banned. Wishes can not be targeted by discard spells. The Wish is only free the first time you play it.
2) This is the 15th 3CB!
3) This is my last 3CB that I am moderating. 3CB, and all XCB used to be all about the fun of the game for me. I endured the moderation in order to have others play the game with me. However, my interest in the game has waned, and I find my self dreading 3CB because of moderation. To be extremely blunt, I hate to moderate 3CB, and I've hated it from day 1. However, I thought that it might be able to revive itself given the right player base.
That's why I'm asking for your help. I want 3CB to continue, so I'm extending an open invitation to anyone who wants to judge it. (I'll be PMing some specific people about taking over for me, but anyone is welcome to take over). If there is initiative, and there is a will to play the game, then a moderator will appear from this.
If not - it has truly been a pleasure playing 3CB with you all.
If you have any questions about 3CB that this thread can not answer, please check out thesethreearticles, written by GoblinBoy back in the 3CB hayday.
I've also written two primers on 3CB lands, which you can find here and here.
My first 3CB metagaming article can be found here, and the follow up to that article can be found here. These articles show you the process I go through every week to figure out my decklist.
Good luck everyone!
--------------Submission Deadline--------------
Please, PM your decks to Death_By_Beebles at either MDV or MTGS. The deadline for submission is 12AM EST August 25th, 2007.
--------------Deck Name Theme--------------
There is no theme this week. Most humorous title gets 5 POTM pts.
--------------Rules and Submission Guidelines--------------
Your deck is composed of 4 cards which all start in your hand (one of which is either a Wish from Judgement, or Golden Wish. This wish can be played without paying its mana cost).
Your library contains 0 cards and you have a 2 card sideboard.
Random effects always go in your opponent's favor.
You can see your opponent's hand, so you make the best possible play.
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.
For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.
Three rules restrict the kind of deck you can send. They are:
1.You may not submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase.
2.You may not submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose more than one card from his hand per turn.
3. You may not submit a deck that uses a card on the 3CB banned list.
Other than the aforementioned, everything is handled exactly like a real game of Magic.
If you want to play, PM me a message with a heading similar to " 3CB Round #X", where X is the current round number. The format for the message should be:
Deck Name
Card #1
Card #2
Card #3
Wish Card
SB:
Card #1
Card #2
--------------Current Banned List--------------
All Ante cards
All Promo cards not available on Gatherer/Autocard
All Unglued and Unhinged cards (excluding basic land)
Some of you may have been in shock since we invaded Canada and Mexico, but fear not, it was for a good cause. Now that we conrol North America, we produce an extra 5 armies a turn.^_^
ATTENTION: This is going slowly due to band camp. I should have time to work on it and have it done shortly, but Goblinboy, feel free to start running #16.
At first, I thought I lost to decks with Tabernacle, but then I realized that, with the Lotuses (Lotii?) I could use them on my upkeep to help pay the upkeep for my Salvagers, and a few of my snakes.
I can beat 4 when he goes first because I can kill him before his Village and/or Megaliths become active.
I can beat 17 because I can just play the Decree on my first turn before he can play the Vineyard, and then I can just use the Lotii to pay for the Salvagers and beat down.
If someone claims that they are an unlynchable, unkillable, octa-voter, with 4 daykills and 6 doc-protects, then technically lynching that person solely based on his claim would be gaming the mod, but I would be just fine doing that.
I'll do my matchups:
16 vs.
1: 6-0
2: 2-2
3: 6-0
4: 6-0
5: 3-3
6: 3-3
7: 2-2
8: 3-3
9: 3-3
10: 4-1
11: 3-3
12: 6-0
13: 6-0
14: 3-3
15: 6-0
-
17: 6-0
18: 6-0 (or 3-3 if the wishes being declared as "free" doesn't override Glowrider's additional cost)
19: 6-0
20: 6-0
86 or 83 points
vs 13 should be 3-3 - When I start, I use Wish first turn to wish for Swords, and hose your guy while a lotus is on the stack. I then beat you to death.
When you go first, I'd wish for Icatian Store and build up 4 counters until I can drop 3 4/4 flyers. One gets swords'd, one stays home to block, and I win in the air.
Corrections: Mogg (7) (also DBB) vs. Chimpanzee (16) 2-2, should be 6-0
You: combo out for a billion tokens.
Me: City, Powder Keg, kill the tokens. You: attack Me: 18, Soldevi Digger You: attack Me: 16, activate digger You: attack Me: 14, play Powder Keg You: attack Me: 12, 1 counter, tap City to float 2 mana, play Factory, return City with Digger You: attack Me: 10, 2 counters, City, attack You: 18, attack Me: 8, 3 counters, attack You: 16, attack Me: 6, 4 counters, kill salvagers, attack I'll keep attacking until I win. I think you might have forgotten that I would retrieve my Factory with Digger.
Mogg (7) (also DBB) vs. Gamerz (8) 1-4, should be 3-3
If I go first, I play Chalice of the Void, x=0, and your Black Lotuses will all be countered
Mogg (7) (also DBB) vs. Halinn (11) Not really a correction, since Halinn said he was unsure; Just a clarification.
You: Steel Golem
Me: Mishra's Factory You: attack Me: 17, City of Traitors, Powder Keg You: attack Me: 14, 1 counter, Soldevi Digger You: attack Me: 11, 2 counters You: 16, attack (block) Me: 11, 3 counters You: attack (eot, pop Keg, return Keg with Digger) Me: 8, Powder Keg You: Wheel of Torture Me: 5, 1 counter, activate Digger You: pass Me: 3, 2 counters You: pass Me: 1, 3 counters, pop Keg Now I can start attacking. I played around Trinisphere, so it never would have done anything, and EnsnaringBridge doesn't matter once I'm in control.
EDIT: I have no idea why the spoilers for the matches against Chimpanzee and Halinn are being broken up. I've tried to fix this a couple times and it keeps inserting "[/spoiler][spoiler]" at the end of line one on its own.
7 v 16: I don't combo out immediately. I drop salvagers then leave both Loti in play. If you ever put a counter on the Keg I combo out the next turn and win so you never put a counter on the keg.
If you do that, I'll wish for Chalice and set it at X=0, meaning that you can get either a single 4/4 flier or three 1/1 soldiers.
You: Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Auriok Salvagers
Me: Mishra's Factory, Chalice of the Void (x=0)
You: attack
Me: 18, City of Traitors, Powder Keg
You: attack
Me: 16, 1 counter
You: Make an Angel, no attack because I can block and pump
Me: 16, 2 counters
You: attack
Me: 12, 3 counters
You: attack
Me: 8, 4 counters, pop Keg, return Keg
You: attack
Me: 4, play Keg, pop Keg
Now you have no permanents left and I can attack ten times to win.
You would win if Decree of Justice were an instant, but as a sorcery, I win with 4 life remaining.
This round is the a special round, for 3 reasons.
1) This round is "I Grant Your Wish!" round. This round, you have a free 4th card - any other Wish cards from Judgement, or the Glittering Wish card from Future Sight. Playing the Wish is free (and cost modifiers will not change it's freeness), but you must pay to play the card you Wished for. You have a 2 card sideboard to Wish from. Channel is banned. Wishes can not be targeted by discard spells. The Wish is only free the first time you play it.
2) This is the 15th 3CB!
3) This is my last 3CB that I am moderating. 3CB, and all XCB used to be all about the fun of the game for me. I endured the moderation in order to have others play the game with me. However, my interest in the game has waned, and I find my self dreading 3CB because of moderation. To be extremely blunt, I hate to moderate 3CB, and I've hated it from day 1. However, I thought that it might be able to revive itself given the right player base.
That's why I'm asking for your help. I want 3CB to continue, so I'm extending an open invitation to anyone who wants to judge it. (I'll be PMing some specific people about taking over for me, but anyone is welcome to take over). If there is initiative, and there is a will to play the game, then a moderator will appear from this.
If not - it has truly been a pleasure playing 3CB with you all.
If you have any questions about 3CB that this thread can not answer, please check out these three articles, written by GoblinBoy back in the 3CB hayday.
I've also written two primers on 3CB lands, which you can find here and here.
My first 3CB metagaming article can be found here, and the follow up to that article can be found here. These articles show you the process I go through every week to figure out my decklist.
Good luck everyone!
--------------Submission Deadline--------------
Please, PM your decks to Death_By_Beebles at either MDV or MTGS. The deadline for submission is 12AM EST August 25th, 2007.
--------------Deck Name Theme--------------
There is no theme this week. Most humorous title gets 5 POTM pts.
--------------Rules and Submission Guidelines--------------
Your deck is composed of 4 cards which all start in your hand (one of which is either a Wish from Judgement, or Golden Wish. This wish can be played without paying its mana cost).
Your library contains 0 cards and you have a 2 card sideboard.
Random effects always go in your opponent's favor.
You can see your opponent's hand, so you make the best possible play.
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.
For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.
Three rules restrict the kind of deck you can send. They are:
1.You may not submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase.
2.You may not submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose more than one card from his hand per turn.
3. You may not submit a deck that uses a card on the 3CB banned list.
Other than the aforementioned, everything is handled exactly like a real game of Magic.
If you want to play, PM me a message with a heading similar to " 3CB Round #X", where X is the current round number. The format for the message should be:
Deck Name
Card #1
Card #2
Card #3
Wish Card
SB:
Card #1
Card #2
--------------Current Banned List--------------
All Ante cards
All Promo cards not available on Gatherer/Autocard
All Unglued and Unhinged cards (excluding basic land)
--------------Current Watched List--------------
Mishra's Workshop
--------------POTM (Points of the Month)--------------
1) Chimpanzee -72 pts
2) WhammWhamme - 70 pts
3) SumPhatGuy - 66 pts
4) Dusk_ - 62 pts
5) SenorClown - 58 pts
5) Tlaon - 58 pts
7) silasw - 52 pts
8) Goblinboy - 51 pts
9) Jack Power - 50 pts
10) chaosjuggler - 47 pts
11) Knowledge - 44 pts
12) Death_By_Beebles - 36 pts
12) andelijah - 36 pts
14) Halinn - 35 pts
15) death by aggro- 24 pts
16) Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! - 18 pys
17) ThunderHog - 17 pts
--------------Winner List--------------
FuDaWg45 - Round #1
FuDaWg45 - Round #2
magicianofthought - Round #3
Feyd_Ruin - Round #4
Chimpanzee - Round #5
Zhou_tai - Round #6
Death_By_Beebles - Round #7
Chimpanzee - Round #8
Halinn- Round #9
SumPhatGuy -Round #10
Chimpanzee, andelijah, Halinn, Caldera, and Goblinboy - Round #11
Dusk_ - Round #12
Tlaon and Death_By_Beebles - Round #13
Chimpanzee - Round #14
--------------POTM Winner List--------------
1-4: Death_By_Beebles
5-8: Chimpanzee
9-13: Halinn
14-18: ????????
The Wish is a part of your hand, but it has special rules applied to it.
EDIT: Another rules clarification - the Wish is only free the first time you play it.
3CB and 4CB5CB!Yes, the wish can be countered. The wish still has its original CMC.
Will you still participate even though you aren't modding anymore, DBB? I hope so.
It is my intention to continue to play after this round.
I think I can, I think I can...
Black Lotus
Ball Lightning
Magus of the Moon
Burning Wish
SB:Shattering Spree
SB:Chain Lightning
#2 - Death_By_Beebles
I like it.dec
Mishra's Factory
City of Traitors
Powder Keg
Golden Wish
SB:Chalice of the Void
SB:Soldevi Digger
#3 - Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
Link Plays "Oath to Order"
Forest
Black Lotus
Elvish Piper
Living Wish
SB:Akroma, Angel of Wrath
SB:Darksteel Colossus
#4 - death by aggro
Terra Maxima
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Gruul Turf
Treetop Village
Living Wish
SB:Dust Bowl
SB:Keldon Megaliths
#5 - Samuel L. Jackson
No Name
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Living Wish
SB:Nullstone Gargoyle
SB:Angel of Despair
#6 - sethrpg
Is it Batman?
Black Lotus
Mishra's Workshop
Stuffy Doll
Golden Wish
SB:Guiltry Conscience
SB:Wheel of Torture
#7 - Mogg
No Name
City of Traitors
Mishra's Factory
Powder Keg
Golden Wish
SB:Soldevi Digger
SB:Chalice of the Void
#8 - Gamerz
Must Be A Pain to Judge
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Auriok Slavagers
Golden Wish
SB:Decree of Silence
SB:Snake Basket
#9 - Caldera42
Pony.dec
Steel Golem
Scalding Tongs
Mishra's Workshop
Golden Wish
SB:Trinisphere
SB:Ensnaring Bridge
#10 - WhammWhamme
End of Daze?
Tropical Island
Nether Spirit
Quirion Ranger
Cunning Wish
SB:Foil
SB:Daze
#11 - Halinn
Machine Head
Mishra's Workshop
Wheel of Torture
Steel Golem
Golden Wish
SB:Ensnaring Bridge
SB:Trinisphere
#12 - Dusk_
Foiled and Fielded
Crush of Wurms
Rushwood Grove
Island
Cunning Wish
SB:Foil
SB:Regress
#13 - Wrath_of_DoG
Up yours, Force of Will <3
Savannah
Blurred Mongoose
Mishra's Factory
Cunning Wish
SB:Disenchant
SB:Swords to Plowshares
#14 - silasw
Hair Not Included
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Living Wish
SB:Nullstone Gargoyle
SB:Angel of Despair
#15 - Tlaon
Wishes Don't Come True
Disrupting Shoal
Viscerid Deepwalker
Island
Living Wish
SB:Lumengrid Warden
SB:Unsummon
#16 - Chimpanzee
Salvaged Concept
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Decree of Justice
Living Wish
SB:Auriok Salvagers
SB:Icatian Store
#17 - andelijah
No Name
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Eladamri's Vineyard
Treetop Village
Cunning Wish
SB:Naturalize
SB:Lightning Bolt
#18 - Knowledge
Grizzly Questions
Karakas
Black Lotus
Swords to Plowshares
Living Wish
SB:Magus of the Moon
SB:Glowrider
#19 - Goblinboy
Still Not Trying Too Hard
Tropical Island
Nether Spirit
Foil
Living Wish
SB:Quirion Ranger
SB:Thallid
#20 - SumPhatGuy
:sneaky:.dec
Dryad Arbor
Unmask
Sickening Shoal
Cunning Wish
SB:Oxidize
SB:Lightning Bolt
X| 1 2 3 4| 5 6 7 8| 9 0 1 2| 3 4 5 6| 7 8 9 0| Total
1| X 1 6 6| 0 0 1 0| 3 0 3 0| 3 0 2 0| 0 1 0 0| 26
2| 4 X 3 6| 3 3 2 3| 6 6 6 6| 2 3 3 3| 6 6 2 6| 79
3| 0 3 X 6| 0 0 3 0| 0 0 1 0| 0 0 6 0| 6 0 0 0| 25
4| 0 0 0 X| 2 0 0 6| 0 6 2 6| 0 2 6 6| 6 0 6 6| 54
5| 6 3 6 2| X 6 3 3| 3 0 3 0| 6 3 6 3| 2 2 0 3| 60
6| 6 3 6 6| 0 X 3 3| 3 3 3 0| 0 0 6 3| 6 0 0 0| 51
7| 4 2 3 6| 3 3 X 3| 6 6 6 6| 2 3 3 3| 6 6 2 6| 79
8| 6 3 6 0| 3 3 3 X| 3 0 3 0| 6 3 6 2| 6 3 2 3| 62
9| 3 0 6 6| 3 3 0 3| X 6 0 6| 6 3 6 3| 6 3 6 6| 75
0| 6 0 6 0| 6 3 0 6| 0 X 0 0| 0 6 6 1| 2 2 0 6| 50
1| 3 0 4 2| 3 3 0 3| 6 6 X 6| 6 3 6 3| 2 4 6 6| 72
2| 6 0 6 0| 6 6 0 6| 0 6 0 X| 0 6 6 0| 6 6 6 6| 72
3| 3 2 6 6| 0 6 2 0| 0 6 0 6| X 0 6 0| 6 3 6 6| 64
4| 6 3 6 2| 3 6 3 3| 3 0 3 0| 6 X 6 3| 2 2 0 3| 60
5| 2 3 0 0| 0 0 3 0| 0 0 0 0| 0 0 X 0| 0 0 0 0| 08
6| 6 3 6 0| 3 3 3 2| 3 4 3 6| 6 3 6 X| 6 3 6 6| 78
7| 6 0 0 0| 2 0 0 0| 0 2 2 0| 0 2 6 0| X 0 0 0| 20
8| 4 0 6 6| 2 6 0 3| 3 2 1 0| 3 2 6 3| 6 X 2 2| 57
9| 6 2 6 0| 6 6 2 2| 0 6 0 0| 0 6 6 0| 6 2 X 0| 56
0| 6 0 6 0| 3 6 0 3| 0 0 0 0| 0 3 6 0| 6 2 6 X| 47
Congrats to:
1st: Mogg and Death_By_Beebles - 79 pts
3rd: Chimpanzee - 78 pts
I'm not sure what Goblinboy wants to do with POTM, so if there are corrections to scores, post them here, and Goblinboy can look over the changes.
It has been a pleasure being a mod for 3CB. Thank you all for playing 3CB with me.
16 vs.
1: 6-0
2: 2-2
3: 6-0
4: 6-0
5: 3-3
6: 3-3
7: 2-2
8: 3-3
9: 3-3
10: 4-1
11: 3-3
12: 6-0
13: 6-0
14: 3-3
15: 6-0
-
17: 6-0
18: 6-0 (or 3-3 if the wishes being declared as "free" doesn't override Glowrider's additional cost)
19: 6-0
20: 6-0
86 or 83 points
3CB and 4CB5CB!12 vs
1: 6-0
2: 0-6
3: 6-0
4: 0-6
5: 6-0
6: 3-3
7: 0-6
8: 6-0
9: 0-6
10: 6-0
11: 0-6
13: 0-6
14: 6-0
15: 6-0
16: 0-6
17: 6-0
18: 6-0
19: 6-0 (Maybe, haven't calculated too hard)
20: 6-0
69 total. Definitely a bad choice with the Crush.
#8 vs
1: 6-0
2: 1-4
3: 6-0
4: 6-0
5: 3-3
6: 3-3
7: 1-4
9: 6-0
10: 3-3
11: 6-0
12: 0-6
13: 6-0
14: 3-3
15: 6-0
16: 3-3
17: 6-0
18: 3-3
19: 2-2
20: 3-3
74 points
At first, I thought I lost to decks with Tabernacle, but then I realized that, with the Lotuses (Lotii?) I could use them on my upkeep to help pay the upkeep for my Salvagers, and a few of my snakes.
I can beat 4 when he goes first because I can kill him before his Village and/or Megaliths become active.
I can beat 17 because I can just play the Decree on my first turn before he can play the Vineyard, and then I can just use the Lotii to pay for the Salvagers and beat down.
3CB and 4CB5CB!7 vs.
1: 6-0
2: 2-2
3: 3-3
4: 0-6
5: 3-3
6: 3-3
7: ---
8: 3-3
9: 6-0
10: 6-0
11: 6-0
12: 6-0
13: 2-2
14: 3-3
15: 6-0
16: 6-0
17: 6-0
18: 6-0
19: 6-0
20: 6-0
Total: 85 points (same for DBB)
Corrections:
Mogg (7) (also DBB) vs. Chimpanzee (16)
2-2, should be 6-0
Me: City, Powder Keg, kill the tokens.
You: attack
Me: 18, Soldevi Digger
You: attack
Me: 16, activate digger
You: attack
Me: 14, play Powder Keg
You: attack
Me: 12, 1 counter, tap City to float 2 mana, play Factory, return City with Digger
You: attack
Me: 10, 2 counters, City, attack
You: 18, attack
Me: 8, 3 counters, attack
You: 16, attack
Me: 6, 4 counters, kill salvagers, attack
I'll keep attacking until I win.
I think you might have forgotten that I would retrieve my Factory with Digger.
1-4, should be 3-3
Mogg (7) (also DBB) vs. Halinn (11)
Not really a correction, since Halinn said he was unsure; Just a clarification.
Me: Mishra's Factory
You: attack
Me: 17, City of Traitors, Powder Keg
You: attack
Me: 14, 1 counter, Soldevi Digger
You: attack
Me: 11, 2 counters
You: 16, attack (block)
Me: 11, 3 counters
You: attack (eot, pop Keg, return Keg with Digger)
Me: 8, Powder Keg
You: Wheel of Torture
Me: 5, 1 counter, activate Digger
You: pass
Me: 3, 2 counters
You: pass
Me: 1, 3 counters, pop Keg
Now I can start attacking. I played around Trinisphere, so it never would have done anything, and EnsnaringBridge doesn't matter once I'm in control.
EDIT: I have no idea why the spoilers for the matches against Chimpanzee and Halinn are being broken up. I've tried to fix this a couple times and it keeps inserting "[/spoiler][spoiler]" at the end of line one on its own.
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy
3CB and 4CB5CB!Me: Mishra's Factory, Chalice of the Void (x=0)
You: attack
Me: 18, City of Traitors, Powder Keg
You: attack
Me: 16, 1 counter
You: Make an Angel, no attack because I can block and pump
Me: 16, 2 counters
You: attack
Me: 12, 3 counters
You: attack
Me: 8, 4 counters, pop Keg, return Keg
You: attack
Me: 4, play Keg, pop Keg
Now you have no permanents left and I can attack ten times to win.
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy
If you need to see the full race as it should go. Look here.
[thread=1306]
3CB and 4CB5CB!BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy