I Hate wonkey_donkey.
Look at his deck.
Maybe it's simple and I missed it.
I need some help.
Also sorry for lateness had paper to write last night, school and all you know.
1 - dasheiff - Disenchant, Citanul Centaurs
Prepaired for Energy Field.
And there way only 1.
2 - Pibbly - Ensnaring Bridge, Thalakos Scout
Shadow Bridge
EB got you a lot of draws, I think you needed something better than Scout though.
3 - Chrome Moxen - Energy field, Leveler
Testing the new ground.dec
Energy Field != Broken
4 - wonkey_donkey - Jinxed Choker, Lavaborn Muse
Unhealthy
I Hate You!
5 - SALAd - Pentad Prism, Bringer of the Red Dawn
TurboBringer
A turn slower than Fastbond but not DMG. Always Fun.
6 - fadeblue - Black Lotus, Akki Underminer
This Would've Owned Vindicate/Herd But Now Will Probably Lose.dec
Nope this is a Meta to be reconed with. Also Good deck name.
7 - Hivemaster - Meloku, the Clouded Mirror; Azusa, Lost but Seeking
Time for some KBC action.
Cute but slow. Coolest Deck.
8 - Nazgul_Master - Acorn Harvest, Umezawa's Jitte
Ach! Hans, run! It's another hideous thing! hmmm... Squirrel??
Not this again. Fun though. Best Title.
9 - r_x_ - Lightning Angel, Cursed Scroll
Lightning Scroll vs. Cursed Angel
Really hit or miss with this metagame.
10 - Shadowlord - Crack The Earth, Eater Of Days
energy field my leviathan
I guess you had Crack for Energy Field which never showed up, needed something else.
11 - Dusk_ - Symbiotic Elf, Nevirryal's Disk
Deck: 3rd Time's the Charm?
I though this would do better, probally juts bad meta.
12 - Greebo - Words of Wilding, Arcane Denial
Spirit of the Bear
Counterspell is very strong in 2CB.
13 - Alfred - Fastbond, Akki Underminer
Quick little moron:
See 6.
14 - deari - Engineered Explosives, Auriok Salvagers
That which explodes twice; Explodes best.
Very versital, your only problem was when they played something with CC=4.
Rules:
No Targeted Discard.
Cannot force a player to discard more than 2 cards a turn.
All Unglued cards All Unhinged cards All ante cards
All Garfield event cards (Splendid Genesis, Proposal, Fraternal Exaltation)
Mesmeric Fiend - Ban
1996 World Champion - Ban
Meddling Mage - Ban
Energy Field - Watch List
Show and Tell - Ban
Glacial Chasm - Ban
Nezumi Shortfang - Ban
Balance - Ban
Foil - Ban
Vindicate - Temporary Ban
Call of the Herd - Ban
You start the game with both your cards as well as one of each basic land, in hand.
Clearly my English was lacking.
Blacker Lotus legal next week for one week only. However I warn you that this is a trick and you probally shouldn't play with it.
Here are the ones I can do for you without getting a headache:
Chrome beats wonkey 6-0 (energy field)
I think it is reasonable to say after going through some sample games r_x_ can outrace it to 6-0 but that doesn't account for all possibilities.
Wonkey gets at least one win against Dusk and I think it ends up 6-0 in his favor but it is tough to do when Dusk goes first.
I don't want to go near his matchup with Hivemaster.
wonkey vs. Chrome Moxen: (wonkey on the play)
W1: Land, Go
C1: Land, Go
W2: Land, Go
C2: Land, Energy Field
W3: Land, Choker, Switch Choker
C3: Ow(19), Land, Switch Choker
W4: Ow(18), Land, Add Counter, Switch Choker, Moxen removes a counter
C4: Ow(17), Land, Switch Choker
W5: Ow(16), Land, Add Counter, Switch Choker, Moxen removes a counter
C5: Ow(15), Leveler
And the Leveler will do the job. On the play, Moxen wins as well. He just has to keep the number of charge counters as low as possible.
wonkey vs. Chrome Moxen 0-6
For this matchup, you forgot that Choker adds a counter on its own when it gets passed, and wonkey can pay to add an extra counter each turn.
W1: Land
C1: Land
W2: Land
C2: Land
W3: Land, Choker, 1 counter on Choker and pass
C3: 20-19, Land, 2 counters on Choker and pass
W4: 18-19, Land, add a 3rd counter, put a 4th counter and pass, Chrome removes a counter at end of turn
C4: 18-16, Land, put a 4th counter and pass
W5: 14-16, Land, Muse, put a 5th counter and pass, Chrome removes a counter at end of turn
C5: 14-12, Land, Leveler, put a 5th counter and pass
W6: 9-12, add a 6th counter, put a 7th counter and pass
C6: in response to Choker's ability Chrome removes a counter, 9-6, swing (wonkey blocks with Muse), put a 7th counter and pass
W7: 2-6, add a 8th counter, put a 9th counter and pass
C7: dies from Choker
I *think* this is how it goes, but I'm still not convinced it's the optimal play on both sides yet. I also haven't calculated Chrome going first.
EDIT: Actually, I think Chrome can win here by adding a counter instead at the end of wonkey's 5th turn. This would make it 14-11, then he plays Leveler and puts a 7th counter and passes the Choker. wonkey does best by removing a counter in response to Choker's ability, making it 8-11. He passes the Choker back with 7 counters, but Chrome pumps it up to 9 counters and wonkey can't save himself.
Look at his deck.
Maybe it's simple and I missed it.
I need some help.
Also sorry for lateness had paper to write last night, school and all you know.
1 - dasheiff - Disenchant, Citanul Centaurs
Prepaired for Energy Field.
And there way only 1.
2 - Pibbly - Ensnaring Bridge, Thalakos Scout
Shadow Bridge
EB got you a lot of draws, I think you needed something better than Scout though.
3 - Chrome Moxen - Energy field, Leveler
Testing the new ground.dec
Energy Field != Broken
4 - wonkey_donkey - Jinxed Choker, Lavaborn Muse
Unhealthy
I Hate You!
5 - SALAd - Pentad Prism, Bringer of the Red Dawn
TurboBringer
A turn slower than Fastbond but not DMG. Always Fun.
6 - fadeblue - Black Lotus, Akki Underminer
This Would've Owned Vindicate/Herd But Now Will Probably Lose.dec
Nope this is a Meta to be reconed with. Also Good deck name.
7 - Hivemaster - Meloku, the Clouded Mirror; Azusa, Lost but Seeking
Time for some KBC action.
Cute but slow. Coolest Deck.
8 - Nazgul_Master - Acorn Harvest, Umezawa's Jitte
Ach! Hans, run! It's another hideous thing! hmmm... Squirrel??
Not this again. Fun though. Best Title.
9 - r_x_ - Lightning Angel, Cursed Scroll
Lightning Scroll vs. Cursed Angel
Really hit or miss with this metagame.
10 - Shadowlord - Crack The Earth, Eater Of Days
energy field my leviathan
I guess you had Crack for Energy Field which never showed up, needed something else.
11 - Dusk_ - Symbiotic Elf, Nevirryal's Disk
Deck: 3rd Time's the Charm?
I though this would do better, probally juts bad meta.
12 - Greebo - Words of Wilding, Arcane Denial
Spirit of the Bear
Counterspell is very strong in 2CB.
13 - Alfred - Fastbond, Akki Underminer
Quick little moron:
See 6.
14 - deari - Engineered Explosives, Auriok Salvagers
That which explodes twice; Explodes best.
Very versital, your only problem was when they played something with CC=4.
X|1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0-1-2-3-4
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1|X-6-2-2-6-0-0-2-2-0-6-0-0-2 28
2|0-X-2-0-2-0-2-2-0-6-0-0-0-0 14
3|2-2-X-6-2-3-2-2-6-2-2-1-3-0 33
4|2-6-0-X-0-0-0-6-0-0-0-0-0-2 10
5|0-2-2-6-X-0-0-0-6-6-0-0-0-0 22
6|6-6-3-6-6-X-6-6-6-6-6-6-2-6 71
7|6-2-2-6-6-0-X-0-0-0-2-0-0-0 24
8|2-2-2-0-6-0-6-X-6-0-2-3-0-0 29
9|2-6-0-6-0-0-6-0-X-0-6-1-0-2 29
0|0-0-2-6-0-0-6-6-6-X-0-1-0-2 29
1|6-6-2-6-6-0-2-2-0-6-X-0-0-2 44
2|6-6-4-6-6-0-6-3-4-4-6-X-0-2 55
3|6-6-3-6-6-2-6-6-6-6-6-6-X-6 71
4|2-6-6-2-6-0-6-6-2-2-2-2-0-X 42
13 - Alfred - 71
6 - fadeblue - 71
12 - Greebo - 55
11 - Dusk_ - 44
14 - deari - 42
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3 - Chrome Moxen - 33
9 - r_x_ - 29
8 - Nazgul_Master - 29
10 - Shadowlord - 29
1 - dasheiff - 28
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5 - SALAd - 22
7 - Hivemaster - 24
4 - wonkey_donkey - 10
2 - Pibbly - 14
U= Unclear Damn Choaker Game
Rules:
No Targeted Discard.
Cannot force a player to discard more than 2 cards a turn.
All Unglued cards All Unhinged cards All ante cards
All Garfield event cards (Splendid Genesis, Proposal, Fraternal Exaltation)
Mesmeric Fiend - Ban
1996 World Champion - Ban
Meddling Mage - Ban
Energy Field - Watch List
Show and Tell - Ban
Glacial Chasm - Ban
Nezumi Shortfang - Ban
Balance - Ban
Foil - Ban
Vindicate - Temporary Ban
Call of the Herd - Ban
You start the game with both your cards as well as one of each basic land, in hand.
Clearly my English was lacking.
Blacker Lotus legal next week for one week only. However I warn you that this is a trick and you probally shouldn't play with it.
Chrome beats wonkey 6-0 (energy field)
I think it is reasonable to say after going through some sample games r_x_ can outrace it to 6-0 but that doesn't account for all possibilities.
Wonkey gets at least one win against Dusk and I think it ends up 6-0 in his favor but it is tough to do when Dusk goes first.
I don't want to go near his matchup with Hivemaster.
3CB and 4CB5CB!E3: Choker
H3: 19, Azusa
E4: 17, Muse
H4: 15, Meloku
E5: 12-14 (choker == 3-5)
H5: 7-9 (choker == 4-6), 5 illutsion tokens, 3 land in play (no pain from muse) reduce choker at EOT if choker is maxed.
E6: 4-10(choker == 4-7)
H6: 1-5 (choker == 5-8), swing for 8.
E7: Something negative.
my sig. made by me.
Your gona have to say something better than that, cause I know you and I draw.
For this matchup, you forgot that Choker adds a counter on its own when it gets passed, and wonkey can pay to add an extra counter each turn.
W1: Land
C1: Land
W2: Land
C2: Land
W3: Land, Choker, 1 counter on Choker and pass
C3: 20-19, Land, 2 counters on Choker and pass
W4: 18-19, Land, add a 3rd counter, put a 4th counter and pass, Chrome removes a counter at end of turn
C4: 18-16, Land, put a 4th counter and pass
W5: 14-16, Land, Muse, put a 5th counter and pass, Chrome removes a counter at end of turn
C5: 14-12, Land, Leveler, put a 5th counter and pass
W6: 9-12, add a 6th counter, put a 7th counter and pass
C6: in response to Choker's ability Chrome removes a counter, 9-6, swing (wonkey blocks with Muse), put a 7th counter and pass
W7: 2-6, add a 8th counter, put a 9th counter and pass
C7: dies from Choker
I *think* this is how it goes, but I'm still not convinced it's the optimal play on both sides yet. I also haven't calculated Chrome going first.
EDIT: Actually, I think Chrome can win here by adding a counter instead at the end of wonkey's 5th turn. This would make it 14-11, then he plays Leveler and puts a 7th counter and passes the Choker. wonkey does best by removing a counter in response to Choker's ability, making it 8-11. He passes the Choker back with 7 counters, but Chrome pumps it up to 9 counters and wonkey can't save himself.
Greebo (Words of Wilding, Arcane Denial) - Chrome Moxen (Energy Field, Leveler)
Supposed Score: 2-2
Should be: 4-1
Agree
Greebo (Words of Wilding, Arcane Denial) - Nazgul Master (Acorn Harvest, Umezawas Jitte)
Supposed Score: 1-4
Should be: 3-3
Agree
Greebo (Words of Wilding, Arcane Denial) - r_x (Cursed Scroll, Lightning Angel)
Supposed Score: 2-2
Should be: 4-1
Agree