I'm going to be a little light on the analysis from now on, but I think it's understandable. Besides, how many of you really read it?
Rather unusual field this time... Almost like people just threw the dice. But hey, isn't it always? Anyway, check out the results, and I'll update the webpage later. And get ready for FORKING!!!
1 - fadeblue - Black Lotus, Island Sanctuary, Tethered Griffin, Chalice of the Void
I'll Toast To That
1. Magikeeper - Village Sewers.dec - 86
2. Bubble - Mishra's Torture shop - 85
3. dasheiff - Dumb Dragon.dec - 82
4. Whamme - Whaaaaat? - 74
5. Chimpanzee - Repeat.dec - 68
6. r_x_666 - Keg Party is always in a place! - 66
7. wonkey_donkey - Blunt instrument - 58
7. Shadowlord - Control,The Old School Way - 58
7. Yawgmoth - Just don't - 58
10. iamkingoftheworld - My prison went to the brain and died and stuff and ???.dec - 55
11. Nazgul_Master - When Fluffy Bunnies Attack - 54
12. fadeblue - I'll Toast To That - 50
13. BlueMage76 - Stutter - 46
14. Dusk_ - Elemental Overrun - 41
14. CynicalSquirrel - Tipping the scales - 41
16. Ikaros - cutpurse.dec - 35
17. Eliminator - Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust - 33
18. organic_android#20 - I like to golf.dec - 31
19. Yawgmoths Underling - Allakhazam! It's Colossus! - 27
20. SALAd - Dain Bramage.dec - 21
Congrats to Magikeeper for winning 4CB #49!
Props to Dusk_ again for coolest deck! (you're just really creative, aren't you ;))
Analysis:
fadeblue - Not a particularly strong deck, but I was lazy. wonkey_donkey - This did fairly well. Several decks were only able to handle one creature at a time. Nazgul_Master - Arboria is pretty good defense. It would do better in a more creature-heavy field, but still managed to do decently here. Dusk_ - Nice creation! It's somewhat flexible, but pretty slow and lacking in control. Whamme - Interesting. I wondered why you didn't just use Maze, but Deliver turned out to have its uses. iamkingoftheworld - Prison by itself stopped many decks, but the others generally outraced the single damage a turn from the Honden. organic_android#20 - Turn 2 Keiga is pretty slow for a rather mediocre threat. The deck is also Lotus-reliant, which hurt you quite a bit. Eliminator - Aurification just doesn't cut it, apparently. I do like the concept, though. Shadowlord - This form of control is always strong, but there were too many enchantments this time. Tough luck. Bubble - I really like this deck. Combining Wheel/Bridge with Ferropede worked out very well, as the Ferropede threat forces your opponent to play his hand. Very nice. CynicalSquirrel - I've always liked Noetic Scales myself, but it just isn't as effective as one would like. Maybe if the field had more fat. Chimpanzee - Didn't do as well as last time, but it's still up there. Coercion almost guarantees at least 3 points per match. SALAd - Not a good choice. The Wurm was generally too small to win matches alone, so the best you were really aiming for was to rely on Logic to draw when going first. r_x_666 - Rather lacking in power, but the control tools seemed to help out greatly. Chalice, of course, is usually a good choice. Magikeeper - Nice! Typical Vineyard/Village deck, but the addition of the Contagion/Unmask combo works wonders! Congrats! BlueMage76 - A time-tested favorite, but this time the Tabernacle had very little effect. You win some, you lose some. Ikaros - Nice in theory, but almost everyone had one expendable permanent. Yawgmoths Underling - Often, Colossus can trump several other decks, but the field seemed ready for this type of deck. Playing Sheltered Valley instead of Forest would've at least saved you from some losses. Yawgmoth - Null Rod is decent, but Tsabo's Web is way too narrow, I think. dasheiff - Again, Dragon shows that it's got plenty of power, but generally not quite enough to make it to the top.
As promised, 4CB #50 (and #51) is a special format. Whenever a player plays a spell, that player plays a copy of that spell without paying its mana cost. If the spell is a permanent, it comes into play as a token. For this format, Black Lotus and Time Walk are banned.
Refer to the 4CB page for rules, archives, and Player of the Month standings.
Don't forget to submit your deck to me via PM. The format is:
I always read the analysis esp for 2 reasons. It's easier than looking up the cards I don't know, and it's another way to judge decks instead of just by the numbers of wins. I'm not saying you should do any more than what you have done today for analysis I'm just saying it's appriated.
SALAd - Not a good choice. The Wurm was generally too small to win matches alone, so the best you were really aiming for was to rely on Logic to draw when going first.
I don't see how: On my go, play Diamond and Petal, pass turn. When the opponent plays a spell on their turn, sac the petal for and Diamond for :symg::symg::symg:, discarding the Wurm and Logic; play both Madness triggers, counter the spell with the Logic, and play the Wurm.
Unless there's something in the rules that I missed that prevents this, I should have won a lot more than I did. If I misread something, please advise.
SALAd, in 4 Card Blind (and other CBs), both players play optimally. So if your opponent would lose by playing a spell and getting it countered, then your opponent would rather not play anything. So both of you just sit there doing nothing and the game is a draw.
Oh, good point about the Rod shutting down Bazaar... I was thinking along the lines of the old storage lands where they didn't have an extra ability, and I completely forgot Bazaar's first ability doesn't count as a mana-producing ability... I'll fix that.
As for you vs. r_x_, it would work, except that you mana burn for 1 when you play the Tongs... So you go first, play Workshop, play Tongs, burn to 19. He plays City, plays Sentry, sinks the extra mana into the Sentry. Then he outraces you. Alternately, you might play Rod first. Then he plays Sentry and burns to 19. But then you play Tongs and burn to 19. Then he still outraces you.
About the analysis... could you please put the analysis of each deck right under the deck? I read it, but it's hard flipping back and forth between the decks and the analysis.
Rather unusual field this time... Almost like people just threw the dice. But hey, isn't it always? Anyway, check out the results, and I'll update the webpage later. And get ready for FORKING!!!
1 - fadeblue - Black Lotus, Island Sanctuary, Tethered Griffin, Chalice of the Void
I'll Toast To That
2 - wonkey_donkey - Black Lotus, Reconstruction, Reconstruction, Hunting Pack
Blunt instrument
3 - Nazgul_Master - Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Arboria, Scalding Tongs
When Fluffy Bunnies Attack
4 - Dusk_ - Mishra's Workshop, Crucible of Worlds, Volcanic Island, Wand of the Elements
Elemental Overrun
5 - Whamme - Mercadian Bazaar, Black Lotus, Stand/Deliver, Form of the Dragon
Whaaaaat?
6 - iamkingoftheworld - Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Ghostly Prison, Honden of Infinite Rage
My prison went to the brain and died and stuff and ???.dec
7 - organic_android#20 - Keiga, the Tide Star, Blinkmoth Nexus, City of Traitors, Black Lotus
I like to golf.dec
8 - Eliminator - Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Aurification, Dauthi Slayer
Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust
9 - Shadowlord - Savannah, Swords to Plowshares, Oxidize, Thallid
Control,The Old School Way
10 - Bubble - Wheel of Torture, Mishra's Workshop, Ensnaring Bridge, Ferropede
Mishra's Torture shop
11 - CynicalSquirrel - Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Scalding Tongs, Noetic Scales
Tipping the scales
12 - Chimpanzee - Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Indentured Djinn, Coercion
Repeat.dec
13 - SALAd - Lion's Eye Diamond, Lotus Petal, Arrogant Wurm, Circular Logic
Dain Bramage.dec
14 - r_x_ - City of Traitors, Powder Keg, Soldevi Sentry, Chalice of the Void
Keg Party is always in a place!
15 - Magikeeper - Eladamri's Vineyard, Treetop Village, Contagion, Unmask
Village Sewers.dec
16 - BlueMage76 - Hesitation, Mox Sapphire, Mishra's Factory, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Stutter
17 - Ikaros - Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Rishadan Cutpurse, Rishadan Cutpurse
cutpurse.dec
18 - Yawgmoths Underling - Forest, Black Lotus, Eureka, Darksteel Colossus
Allakhazam! It's Colossus!
19 - Yawgmoth - Mishra's Workshop, Scalding Tongs, Null Rod, Tsabo's Web
Just don't
20 - dasheiff - Form of the Dragon, Black Lotus, Black Lotus, Karakas
Dumb Dragon.dec
Results:
X|1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0
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1|X-6-3-0-0-3-3-4-2-0-3-3-4-0-1-2-4-6-3-3 = 50
2|0-X-3-6-6-0-6-6-6-0-0-3-4-0-3-0-6-6-3-0 = 58
3|3-3-X-6-0-3-6-6-2-0-3-3-4-1-0-3-2-6-3-0 = 54
4|6-0-0-X-6-0-6-6-0-0-0-0-2-6-0-2-6-0-0-1 = 41
5|6-0-6-0-X-6-6-6-6-0-6-0-6-6-0-6-2-6-0-6 = 74
6|3-6-3-6-0-X-0-6-6-0-3-3-4-0-0-4-2-6-3-0 = 55
7|3-0-0-0-0-6-X-0-0-0-3-0-6-3-0-2-2-6-0-0 = 31
8|1-0-0-0-0-0-6-X-0-0-6-3-4-1-0-1-2-6-3-0 = 33
9|2-0-2-6-0-0-6-6-X-2-6-0-6-4-0-4-2-6-6-0 = 58
0|6-6-6-6-6-6-6-6-2-X-6-1-6-6-0-2-2-6-6-0 = 85
1|3-6-3-6-0-3-3-0-0-0-X-3-4-0-0-0-1-6-3-0 = 41
2|3-3-3-6-6-3-6-3-6-4-3-X-4-3-3-1-2-3-3-3 = 68
3|1-1-1-2-0-1-0-1-0-0-1-1-X-3-1-1-2-1-3-1 = 21
4|6-6-4-0-0-6-3-4-1-0-6-3-3-X-2-6-4-3-6-3 = 66
5|4-3-6-6-6-6-6-6-6-6-6-3-4-2-X-4-2-3-4-3 = 86
6|2-6-3-2-0-1-2-4-1-2-6-4-4-0-1-X-2-3-0-3 = 46
7|1-0-2-0-2-2-2-2-2-2-4-2-2-1-2-2-X-2-3-2 = 35
8|0-0-0-6-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-3-4-3-3-3-2-X-3-0 = 27
9|3-3-3-6-6-3-6-3-0-0-3-3-3-0-1-6-3-3-X-3 = 58
0|3-6-6-4-0-6-6-6-6-6-6-3-4-3-3-3-2-6-3-X = 82
Rankings:
1. Magikeeper - Village Sewers.dec - 86
2. Bubble - Mishra's Torture shop - 85
3. dasheiff - Dumb Dragon.dec - 82
4. Whamme - Whaaaaat? - 74
5. Chimpanzee - Repeat.dec - 68
6. r_x_666 - Keg Party is always in a place! - 66
7. wonkey_donkey - Blunt instrument - 58
7. Shadowlord - Control,The Old School Way - 58
7. Yawgmoth - Just don't - 58
10. iamkingoftheworld - My prison went to the brain and died and stuff and ???.dec - 55
11. Nazgul_Master - When Fluffy Bunnies Attack - 54
12. fadeblue - I'll Toast To That - 50
13. BlueMage76 - Stutter - 46
14. Dusk_ - Elemental Overrun - 41
14. CynicalSquirrel - Tipping the scales - 41
16. Ikaros - cutpurse.dec - 35
17. Eliminator - Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust - 33
18. organic_android#20 - I like to golf.dec - 31
19. Yawgmoths Underling - Allakhazam! It's Colossus! - 27
20. SALAd - Dain Bramage.dec - 21
Congrats to Magikeeper for winning 4CB #49!
Props to Dusk_ again for coolest deck! (you're just really creative, aren't you ;))
Analysis:
fadeblue - Not a particularly strong deck, but I was lazy.
wonkey_donkey - This did fairly well. Several decks were only able to handle one creature at a time.
Nazgul_Master - Arboria is pretty good defense. It would do better in a more creature-heavy field, but still managed to do decently here.
Dusk_ - Nice creation! It's somewhat flexible, but pretty slow and lacking in control.
Whamme - Interesting. I wondered why you didn't just use Maze, but Deliver turned out to have its uses.
iamkingoftheworld - Prison by itself stopped many decks, but the others generally outraced the single damage a turn from the Honden.
organic_android#20 - Turn 2 Keiga is pretty slow for a rather mediocre threat. The deck is also Lotus-reliant, which hurt you quite a bit.
Eliminator - Aurification just doesn't cut it, apparently. I do like the concept, though.
Shadowlord - This form of control is always strong, but there were too many enchantments this time. Tough luck.
Bubble - I really like this deck. Combining Wheel/Bridge with Ferropede worked out very well, as the Ferropede threat forces your opponent to play his hand. Very nice.
CynicalSquirrel - I've always liked Noetic Scales myself, but it just isn't as effective as one would like. Maybe if the field had more fat.
Chimpanzee - Didn't do as well as last time, but it's still up there. Coercion almost guarantees at least 3 points per match.
SALAd - Not a good choice. The Wurm was generally too small to win matches alone, so the best you were really aiming for was to rely on Logic to draw when going first.
r_x_666 - Rather lacking in power, but the control tools seemed to help out greatly. Chalice, of course, is usually a good choice.
Magikeeper - Nice! Typical Vineyard/Village deck, but the addition of the Contagion/Unmask combo works wonders! Congrats!
BlueMage76 - A time-tested favorite, but this time the Tabernacle had very little effect. You win some, you lose some.
Ikaros - Nice in theory, but almost everyone had one expendable permanent.
Yawgmoths Underling - Often, Colossus can trump several other decks, but the field seemed ready for this type of deck. Playing Sheltered Valley instead of Forest would've at least saved you from some losses.
Yawgmoth - Null Rod is decent, but Tsabo's Web is way too narrow, I think.
dasheiff - Again, Dragon shows that it's got plenty of power, but generally not quite enough to make it to the top.
As promised, 4CB #50 (and #51) is a special format. Whenever a player plays a spell, that player plays a copy of that spell without paying its mana cost. If the spell is a permanent, it comes into play as a token. For this format, Black Lotus and Time Walk are banned.
Refer to the 4CB page for rules, archives, and Player of the Month standings.
Don't forget to submit your deck to me via PM. The format is:
[Deck Name]
[Card 1]
[Card 2]
[Card 3]
[Card 4]
Good luck all!
I don't see how: On my go, play Diamond and Petal, pass turn. When the opponent plays a spell on their turn, sac the petal for and Diamond for :symg::symg::symg:, discarding the Wurm and Logic; play both Madness triggers, counter the spell with the Logic, and play the Wurm.
Unless there's something in the rules that I missed that prevents this, I should have won a lot more than I did. If I misread something, please advise.
As for you vs. r_x_, it would work, except that you mana burn for 1 when you play the Tongs... So you go first, play Workshop, play Tongs, burn to 19. He plays City, plays Sentry, sinks the extra mana into the Sentry. Then he outraces you. Alternately, you might play Rod first. Then he plays Sentry and burns to 19. But then you play Tongs and burn to 19. Then he still outraces you.