I think what occured this month is nearly unprecedented - not only we have a shared PotM cup (last happened on June 2005), we have a shared win leading up to it!
ced395 and bmh are is 5CB Players of the Month May 2010!
Rules
0. Overview
Five Card Blind (5CB) is a weekly Magic tournament, run entirely within this forum. To compete, players submit five-card decks which are played against each other. Scoring assumes optimal play, without randomness or concealed information.
1. Game Rules
1.1. Except for the changes described in these rules, games follow the rules of Magic.
1.2. Players' decks contain exactly five cards, which begin the game in hand. Players do not mulligan or sideboard.
1.3. Players' libraries begin the game empty. A player does not lose the game as a result of being unable to draw a card.
1.4. A random effect produces the result that least benefits the owner of the source of the effect.
2. Tournament Rules
2.1. Players submit their decks to the 5CB moderator.
2.1a. The moderator acknowledges submissions and reports problems in a timely manner.
2.1b. A player may submit multiple decks, but only the most recent is counted.
2.1c. An illegal deck is not counted. The removal of an illegal deck from a posted heat does not cause further changes to deck distribution (see Rule 2.5).
2.2. Decks are subject to some restrictions.
2.2a. A player may not submit a deck that can – against any deck – win the game or force more than one card in an opponent's hand to change zones before an opponent's second turn.
For example, Cabal Therapy / Scalding Tongs / Swamp x3 is illegal because an opponent's deck may have duplicates of a card, but Cabal Therapy / Scalding Tongs / Subterranean Hangar x3 is legal because Cabal Therapy can't be played until the third turn.
2.2b. A player may not submit a deck that can't win against any deck.
2.2c. A deck may include any number of any card legal in Vintage (Type 1), with the exception of the following banned cards:
2.3. Each player plays two games (one match) against each other player.
2.3a. Each player is the starting player once per match.
2.3b. If no player can win, the game is a draw.
2.3c. A player that can't win or draw plays to extend the game.
2.3d. Results assume optimal play and perfect information.
2.4. Points determine tournament standings.
2.4a. Players are ranked – first to last – in order of decreasing number of points.
2.4b. For each match, a player earns 3 points per game win and 1 point per drawn game. However, a player earns only 2 points for a split match (one win, one loss).
2.4c. A table of match results is posted each round. Its rows represent players and its columns represent opponents. Match results reflect the combined result of both games played in a match; 3 is a game win, 1 a drawn game, and 0 a game loss. A player's points are listed at the end of his or her row.
2.5. In rounds of twenty or more players, players are divided randomly into equally-sized heats of n players, where n is the number of players divided by ten (rounded down).
For example, twenty-five players are divided into heats of twelve and thirteen.
2.5a. A player only plays against players in his heat.
2.5b. The top four players of each heat advance to the finals, where they play again (with the same decks).
2.5c. Tiebreakers for heats are as follows: number of matches in which a player wins both games, number of game wins, points scored against higher-scoring decks. If a tie is unresolved, both tied decks advance.
2.6. The player with the most POTM points over the course of a month is the Player of the Month.
2.6a. A month includes all rounds for which decks are due during that month.
2.6b. The top eight players of rounds of less than twenty players and all players in the finals of rounds of twenty or more players earn POTM points according to their rank; The player with the highest score earns 1 POTM point for each player in the finals, and each subsequent player earns one point less than the previous player. Tied players earn equal points but are counted as separate players when calculating the points of other players.
2.6c. Tiebreakers for top eight are as follows: number of matches in which a player wins both games, number of game wins, points scored against higher-scoring decks. If a tie is unresolved, both tied decks are counted.
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I had no idea that Form of the Dragon is legal now.
Also, I think my match with bmh should be 4-1 in his favor. Once he plays the shortfang I'm toast (due to Karakas).
I'd like to give a creativity award to bmh, and a "what were you thinking" award to bateleur. Painter's Servant as your only win con? and a Digger that can only be activated if you happen to cast Daze on your own turn?
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Also, I think my match with bmh should be 4-1 in his favor. Once he plays the shortfang I'm toast (due to Karakas).
Nah. If I put Shortfang into play on turn 1, it gets mulched to annihilator, so I have to play Karakas to hold Emrakul at bay. Therefore, Shortfang gets thoughtseized, and Abu is a 0/1. Draw, draw.
"what were you thinking" award to bateleur. Painter's Servant as your only win con? and a Digger that can only be activated if you happen to cast Daze on your own turn?
Painter's Servant as my only wincon is fine - the whole point of Painter is to destroy everything.
Unusable Digger was an oversight regarding the activation cost. I'd forgotten it takes mana rather than a tap to activate - it doesn't usually matter because the vanilla build has City in it. Kind've funny that you thought it was deliberate, though!
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[/quote]Also, doesn't technogeek's deck win on turn two? Drop in Crucible, Fastbond, Orb, loop Gargoyle Castle for arbitrarily large life, then arbitrarily large mana in pool, then arbitrarily large number of Gargoyles, which kill turn 2.[/quote]
That's right. For some reason, I saw it as winning on turn three. >_>
Will check corrections tommorow - big test coming up.
Also, doesn't technogeek's deck win on turn two? Drop in Crucible, Fastbond, Orb, loop Gargoyle Castle for arbitrarily large life, then arbitrarily large mana in pool, then arbitrarily large number of Gargoyles, which kill turn 2.
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Techno, your deck can cycle for an arbitrarily large amount of life and gargoyle tokens turn 1, which gives you a win before an opponent's second turn on the play.
Results
Format: Bargain
1 - Madmanquail
Black Lotus / Boldwyr Heavyweights / Foil / Mesmeric Fiend / Underground Sea
2 - ~Tilde~
Badlands / Mesmeric Fiend / Mishra's Factory / Red Elemental Blast / Simian Spirit Guide
3 - bmh
Abu Jafar / Karakas / Nezumi Shortfang / Scrubland / Leyline of Lifeforce
4 - jcsuperstar
Underground Sea / Shelldock Isle / Thoughtseize / Bazaar of Baghdad / Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
5 - bateleur
Island / Painter's Servant / Hydroblast / Soldevi Digger / Daze
6 - technogeek5000Black Lotus / Crucible of Worlds / Fastbond / Gargoyle Castle / Zuran orb
7 - ced395
Black Lotus / Black Lotus / Form of the Dragon / Mesmeric Fiend / Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
X| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1| X 2 6 6 2 - 2 18
2| 2 X 0 2 6 - 2 12
3| 0 6 X 2 2 - 0 10
4| 0 2 2 X 6 - 2 12
5| 2 0 2 0 X - 0 4
6| ---------X--
7| 2 2 6 2 6 - X 18
1. ced395(7): 18
2. Madmanquail(1): 18
3. ~Tilde~(2): 12
=. jcsuperstar(4): 12
5. bmh(3): 10
6. bateleur(5): 2
ced395
and bmhwins 5CB #134!Player of the Month May
1. ced395: 28
2. bmh: 24
3. jcsuperstar: 21
4. bateleur: 16
5. Madmaquail: 14
6. ~Tilde~: 13
7. WhammWhamme: 10
8.technogeek5000: 7
9. OneMoreTime: 6
10.Mogg: 5
=.Hinotama: 5
12. IOput: 4
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and bmh areis 5CB Playersof the Month May 2010!0. Overview
Five Card Blind (5CB) is a weekly Magic tournament, run entirely within this forum. To compete, players submit five-card decks which are played against each other. Scoring assumes optimal play, without randomness or concealed information.
1. Game Rules
1.1. Except for the changes described in these rules, games follow the rules of Magic.
1.2. Players' decks contain exactly five cards, which begin the game in hand. Players do not mulligan or sideboard.
1.3. Players' libraries begin the game empty. A player does not lose the game as a result of being unable to draw a card.
1.4. A random effect produces the result that least benefits the owner of the source of the effect.
2. Tournament Rules
2.1. Players submit their decks to the 5CB moderator.
2.2. Decks are subject to some restrictions.
2.3. Each player plays two games (one match) against each other player.
2.4. Points determine tournament standings.
2.5. In rounds of twenty or more players, players are divided randomly into equally-sized heats of n players, where n is the number of players divided by ten (rounded down).
2.6. The player with the most POTM points over the course of a month is the Player of the Month.
Season 1
March 2005
Round 1 r_x, Greebo, zorbop
Round 2 Ankh-Morpokian
Round 3 Greebo
Round 4 Chimpanzee
POTM: Greebo
April 2005
Round 5 help im a bug, Draco9_1_1 (Only Creatures)
Round 6 Greebo (Only Creatures)
Round 7 spuzzem king
Round 8 bateleur
POTM: spuzzem king
May 2005
Round 9 Feyd_Ruin (Only Multicolor)
Round 10 jcsuperstar (Only Multicolor)
Round 11 Lone Warrior
Round 12 Wanderer359
POTM: WhammWhamme
June 2005
Round 13 Silver Seraph, Greebo (Titania's Song)
Round 14 WhammWhamme (Titania's Song)
Round 15 Tahn (Artist Tribute)
Round 16 Lone Warrior (Artist Tribute)
POTM: bateleur, Greebo
July 2005
Round 17 Shadowlord
Round 18 bateleur
Round 19 Shadowlord (Pay 19: Add 1)
Round 20 Greebo (Pay 19: Add 1)
POTM: Shadowlord
August 2005
Round 21 Greebo
Round 22 Greebo
Round 23 spuzzem king (One-Million Life)
Round 24 WhammWhamme (One-Million Life)
POTM: Greebo
September 2005
Round 25 Chimpanzee, Shadowlord
Round 26 dasheiff
Round 27 Chimpanzee (Orrery)
Round 28 Halinn (Orrery)
POTM: jcsuperstar
October 2005
Round 29 Beaker
Round 30 Feuerdrache, Wanderer359
Round 31 r_x (Dream Halls)
Round 32 Puzzle (Dream Halls)
POTM: Chimpanzee
November 2005
Round 33 bateleur
Round 34 Shadowlord
Round 35 jcsuperstar (Backbuild)
Round 36 jcsuperstar (Backbuild)
POTM: bateleur
December 2005
Round 37 bateleur
Round 38 Wanderer359
Round 39 WhammWhamme (Ban a Card)
Round 40 dasheiff, Lone Warrior (Ban a Card)
POTM: Beaker
January 2006
Round 41 Lone Warrior
Round 42 Silver Seraph
Round 43 Trojan (1984)
Round 44 Beaker (1984)
POTM: Lone Warrior
February 2006
Round 45 bateleur
Round 46 Halinn
Round 47 bateleur (7 Life)
Round 48 Chimpanzee (7 Life)
POTM: bateleur
March 2006
Round 49 armlx
Round 50 bateleur
Round 51 armlx (Leyline)
Round 52 Chimpanzee, Greebo (Leyline)
POTM: armlx
April 2006
Round 53 jcsuperstar
Round 54 armlx
Round 55 bateleur (Epic)
Round 56 Xyre (Epic)
POTM: jcsuperstar
May 2006
Round 57 jcsuperstar
Round 58 Pingele_Pats (Banathon)
Round 59 Amadi (Banathon)
Round 60 Solitaire (Banathon)
POTM: Pingele_Pats
June 2006
Round 61 Farik (One-Million Life)
Round 62 Wrath_of_Dog, zu_Faul (Leyline)
Round 63 Beaker (7 Life)
POTM: silicon
July 2006
Round 64 Pingele_Pats (Multi-Set)
Round 65 WhammWhamme, zu_Faul (Extended)
POTM: None
September 2007
Round 1 (Introduction)
Round 2 andelijah
POTM: None
October 2007
Round 3 Mogg
Round 4 Chimpanzee (Lorwyn)
Round 5 Meat Popsicle (Repeat Letters)
Round 6 Mogg (10 Life)
POTM: Mogg
November 2007
Round 7 Death_By_Beebles
Round 8 jcsuperstar (Mindslaver)
Round 9 Mogg (Thanksgiving Special)
Round 10 Mogg (Thanksgiving Special, Part Two)
POTM: Mogg
December 2007
Round 11 carrion pigeons
Round 12 Mogg (Later Alphabet)
Round 13 Mogg (Backbuild)
Round 14 Xyre (Backbuild)
POTM: Mogg
January 2008
Round 15 armlx
Round 16 Chimpanzee (Auras)
Round 17 Mogg (Doubling Season)
Round 18 carrion pigeons, Chimpanzee (Doubling Season)
Round 19 WhammWhamme (31 Bans)
POTM: Mogg
February 2008
Round 20 Chimpanzee
Round 21 Mogg (Combat)
Round 22 Mogg (Combat)
Round 23 Knowledge
POTM: Mogg
March 2008
Round 24 Mogg (Consecutive Names)
Round 25 Chimpanzee (Consecutive Names)
Round 26 The Mad Tapper
Round 27 The Mad Tapper
POTM: The Mad Tapper
April 2008
Round 28 The Mad Tapper (DC5)
Round 29 jcsuperstar (DC5)
Round 30 jcsuperstar (< 20)
Round 31 bateleur
POTM: bateleur
May 2008
Round 32 WhammWhamme (Leyline)
Round 33 Silver Seraph (Mana Market)
Round 34 bateleur (Helm of Awakening and Mirari)
Round 35 Alfred (Pre-entered Decks)
POTM: bateleur
June 2008
Round 36 bateleur, YuanTi
Round 37 WhammWhamme (Favorite Colors)
Round 38 YuanTi (Lotus)
Round 39 Mogg (Mogg Week)
POTM: WhammWhamme
July 2008
Round 40 bateleur (Mulligans)
Round 41 Mogg
Round 42 Chimpanzee
Round 43 ced395 (Even)
POTM: Mogg
August 2008
Round 44 WhammWhamme (Odd)
Round 45 Farik (No Bans)
Round 46 Mogg
POTM: Error1
September 2008
Round 47 ghweiss (Low-Scoring)
Round 48 theeguy (Backbuild, Part Two)
Round 49 Mogg
Round 50 Mogg (50 Life)
Round 51 Error1 (Landline)
POTM: Mogg
October 2008
Round 52 Shogun17 (Exploration)
Round 53 MT_Gunn (Multicolor Discount)
Round 54 Silkenfist (2-2)
Round 55 bateleur, WhammWhamme
POTM: Error1
November 2008
Round 56 Error1 (Colorless Creatures)
Round 57 Knowledge, Silkenfist (Legendary Creatures)
POTM: None
December 2008
Round 58 (Introduction)
Round 59 Halinn
Round 60 Halinn
Round 61 ced395 (Christmas Special)
Round 62 MyNameIsFourteen (New Year's Special)
POTM: None
January 2009
Round 63 Mogg
Round 64 Mogg (Nemesis)
Round 65 MyNameIsFourteen (Nemesis)
Round 66 Mogg
POTM: Mogg
February 2009
Round 67 Chimpanzee
Round 68 MyNameIsFourteen (Lovely Letters)
Round 69 Naphtali (Lovely Letters, Part 2)
Round 70 bateleur
POTM: bateleur
March 2009
Round 71 ced395, Chimpanzee
Round 72 ced395 (Activated)
Round 73 WhammWhamme (Activated)
Round 74 bateleur
POTM: Chimpanzee
April 2009
Round 75 Xyre
Round 76 Mogg, ngollon (Landline-Orrery)
Round 77 Mogg (Landline-Orrery)
Round 78 Mogg
POTM: Mogg
May 2009
Round 79 bateleur
Round 80 ced395 (Upwelling)
Round 81 Mogg (Upwelling)
Round 82 Halinn
Round 83 r_x_
New Player Round math_geek
POTM: Mogg
June 2009
Round 84 Kekekekeke (Block Party)
Round 85 FuriouslySleepingIdea (Block Party)
Round 86 Mogg
Round 87 Farik
POTM: Mogg
July 2009
Round 88 bateleur, dethwing (Infinite Cards)
Round 89 Farik, lOput (Infinite Cards)
Round 90 Farik, Mogg, Personman
Round 91 Madmanquail
Round 92 bateleur (Backbuild, Part Three)
POTM: Madmanquail
August 2009
Round 93 DragonDart (Backbuild, Part Three)
Round 94 lOput
Round 95 domogrue
Round 96 Mogg (Dream Halls)
POTM: ced395
September 2009
Round 97 Mogg (Dream Halls)
Round 98 ced395
Round 99 FuriouslySleepingIdea
Round 100 bateleur, dethwing, FuriouslySleepingIdea, Krashbot, Shogun17, VikingMetal4L (100 Turns)
POTM: FuriouslySleepingIdea
October 2009
Round 101 Shogun17 (100 Turns Revised)
Round 102 Madmanquail
Round 103 bateleur, bman65, ced395
Round 104 (Results) VikingMetal4L
Round 105 SumPhatGuy (Strawman)
POTM: ced395
November 2009
Round 106 bman65 (Strawman)
Round 107 bateleur
Round 108 Madmanquail
Round 109 bman65 (Respray)
POTM: bman65
December 2009
Round 110 Xyre (Respray)
Round 111 ced395
Round 112 Personman
Round 113 Hinotama, WhammWhamme
POTM: bman65
January 2010
Round 114 Mogg
Round 115 Madmanquail
Round 116 bmh, Personman
Round 117 bateleur
Round 118 VikingMetal4L
POTM: bmh
February 2010
Round 119 VikingMetal4L
Round 120 Madmanquail
Round 121 Madmanquail
Round 122 Mogg, ~Tilde~
PotM: Madmanquail
March 2010
Round 123 Hinotama
Round 124 Madmanquail, Personman
Round 125 lOput
Round 126 lOput
PotM: lOput
April 2010
Round 127 tomsloger
Round 128 ~Tilde~, ced395
Round 129 Naphtali
Round 130 Feyd_Ruin
PotM: ced395
May 2010
Round 131 bmh
Round 132 bmh
Round 133 ced395
Round 134 ced395
PotM: ced395
Rounds
Mogg: 28
bateleur: 23
Chimpanzee: 12
WhammWhamme: 11
ced395: 11
Greebo: 8
jcsuperstar: 8
Madmanquail: 7
Farik: 5
Halinn: 5
bmh: 4
armlx: 4
Lone Warrior: 4
Personman: 4
Shadowlord: 4
VikingMetal4L: 4
Xyre: 4
lOput: 4
Beaker: 3
bman65: 3
FuriouslySleepingIdea: 3
MyNameIsFourteen: 3
r_x_: 3
Shogun17: 3
Silver Seraph: 3
The Mad Tapper: 3
Wanderer359: 3
carrion pigeons: 2
dasheiff: 2
dethwing: 2
Error1: 2
Feyd_Ruin: 2
Knowledge: 2
Naphtali: 2
Pingele_Pats: 2
Silkenfist: 2
spuzzem king: 2
YuanTi: 2
zu_Faul: 2
~Tilde~: 2
Alfred: 1
Amadi: 1
andelijah: 1
Ankh-Morpokian: 1
Death By Beebles: 1
domogrue: 1
Draco9_1_1: 1
DragonDart: 1
Feuerdrache: 1
ghweiss: 1
help im a bug: 1
Hinotama: 1
Kekekekeke: 1
Hinotama: 1
Krashbot: 1
Meat Popsicle: 1
MT Gunn: 1
ngollon: 1
Puzzle: 1
Solitaire: 1
SumPhatGuy: 1
Tahn: 1
theeguy: 1
Trojan: 1
tomsloger: 1
Wrath_of_Dog: 1
zorbop: 1
POTM
Mogg: 11
bateleur: 6
ced395: 4
Greebo: 3
Madmanquail: 2
bman65: 2
Chimpanzee: 2
Error1: 2
jcsuperstar: 2
WhammWhamme: 2
bmh: 1
armlx: 1
Beaker: 1
FuriouslySleepingIdea: 1
Lone Warrior: 1
lOput: 1
math_geek: 1
Pingele_Pats: 1
Shadowlord: 1
silicon: 1
spuzzem king: 1
The Mad Tapper: 1
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Also, I think my match with bmh should be 4-1 in his favor. Once he plays the shortfang I'm toast (due to Karakas).
I'd like to give a creativity award to bmh, and a "what were you thinking" award to bateleur. Painter's Servant as your only win con? and a Digger that can only be activated if you happen to cast Daze on your own turn?
Nope. I ran Lifeforce because I was expecting Foil and Daze. I ran Karakas to mulch other copies of Karakas.
Nah. If I put Shortfang into play on turn 1, it gets mulched to annihilator, so I have to play Karakas to hold Emrakul at bay. Therefore, Shortfang gets thoughtseized, and Abu is a 0/1. Draw, draw.
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How 'bout we just split it? ;-)
(Well played ced!)
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I overlooked it Loyal Sentry. I (wrongly) assumed that the round would be very heavy on Shroud and counterspells.
Originally I had considered running: Urborg / Tabernacle / Magus of the Tabernacle / Mesmeric Fiend / Lotus, but changed my mind at the last minute.
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Painter's Servant as my only wincon is fine - the whole point of Painter is to destroy everything.
Unusable Digger was an oversight regarding the activation cost. I'd forgotten it takes mana rather than a tap to activate - it doesn't usually matter because the vanilla build has City in it. Kind've funny that you thought it was deliberate, though!
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Probably not. He's trying to fend off counters.
[/quote]Also, doesn't technogeek's deck win on turn two? Drop in Crucible, Fastbond, Orb, loop Gargoyle Castle for arbitrarily large life, then arbitrarily large mana in pool, then arbitrarily large number of Gargoyles, which kill turn 2.[/quote]
That's right. For some reason, I saw it as winning on turn three. >_>
Will check corrections tommorow - big test coming up.
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doesn't really matter though, i wouldn't have done very well.
I'll just resubmit it for the normal week
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