16 - Beaker: Black Lotus; Eater of Days; Wasteland
You days are numbered, well maybe not, but you are still gonna die, well maybe not, but im still gonna win, well maybe not, well at least i still get to eat dinner soon, you got yours eaten.
17 - aurorasparrow: Black Lotus; Force of Will; Indentured Djinn
LED acorn harvest therapy.dec
18 - god child: Darksteel Reactor; Energy Field; Sand Silos
Darksteel Field
19 - Greebo: Black Lotus; Isamaru, Hound of Konda; Seal of Cleansing
Woof Woof
20 - wonkey_donkey: Black Lotus; Glowrider; Wasteland
Jumping on the Bandwagon
21 - feuerdrache: Black Lotus; Lavaborn Muse; Wasteland
What an amuseing pun.
22 - Hi, my name is bob and I'm an addict.: Bayou; Skyshroud Cutter; Snuff Out
:teach:!
23 - Shadowlord: Black Lotus; Illusionary Mask; Phyrexian Dreadnought
Masknought^_^;
24 - Bluemage76: Black Lotus; Glowrider; Maze of Ith
Ride wIth Me
1. Goblinboy (1) - Okay, Now I'm Addicted. - 92
1. Tahn (4) - Why did the Hound cross the road? Because it was thightened with the chicken - 92
3. Shadowlord (23) - Masknought^_^; - 86
4. Fayul (5) - Canada's Really Big - 85
4. Chimpanzee (7) - Wasted Arrogant Lion - 85
6. Hi, my name is bob and I'm an addict. (22) - :teach:! - 84
7. halinn (6) - Guided diamond-wurm - 78
7. r_x_ (13) - Wtf I'm thinking... - 78
9. Lone Warrior (10) - The obligatory Lavaborn Muse submission.dec - 71
9. feuerdrache (21) - What an amuseing pun. - 71
11. aurorasparrow (17) - LED acorn harvest therapy.dec - 70
12. AJFirst (11) - MonoBlackHybrid condensed into 3CB - 66
13. Greebo (19) - Woof Woof - 64
14. Beaker (16) - You days are numbered, well maybe not, but you are still gonna die, well maybe not, but im still gonna win, well maybe not, well at least i still get to eat dinner soon, you got yours eaten. - 58
14. god child (18) - Darksteel Field - 58
16. bertrand (8) - The new and worse Daze - 57
17. Feyd_Ruin (14) - 3 Land Green... Minus the green - 56
18. dasheiff (12) - The New :symw:.dec - 47
19. wonkey_donkey (20) - Jumping on the Bandwagon - 39
20. Istanbul (2) - Halloween Came Early This Year - 34
20. Bluemage76 (24) - Ride wIth Me - 34
22. RafaelK (3) - Alt.Treetop.DieDieDie - 33
23. Dusk_ (15) - Slow and Steady - 27
24. Xyre (9) - Still not Netdecking - 24
Congrats to Goblinboy and Tahn for winning 3CB #102!
Congrats to RafaelK for winning "Coolest Deck"
Congrats to feuerdrache for winning "Coolest Deck Title"
Watch list:
Wasteland
Banned cards:
PLEASE CHECK YOUR DECK BEFORE SUBMITTING
The Rack
Form of the Dragon
Balance
Strip Mine
Glacial Chasm
Blackmail
Coercion
Pulse of the Dross
Cabal Therapy
Mesmeric Fiend
Abandon Hope
Nezumi Shortfang
Meddling Mage
Leonin Squire
Show and Tell
Misguided Rage
All ante cards
Any card that forces your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn.
Any non-mass-produced card (Proposal, 1996 World Champion, etc.)
Unglued
Unhinged
Banned Decks:
*Any deck that can feasibly force your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn. (The word force here is important. Mind Bomb is still legal, unless combined with Mindslaver ) (NOTE: Remove-From-Hand effects count as discarding)
*Any deck that can feasibly win on the first turn. (i.e. no matter who goes first, your deck cannot goldfish before the start of their second turn)
The Next Tournament
The next tournament starts right now and will be tabulated on the closing day. Entries will be closed October 9, 2005 at midnight PST and results will be posted soon thereafter
THE NEXT TOURNAMENT WILL BE A NORMAL FORMAT!!!
Nothing special except that Ravnica is legal!!!!
RAV 3CB Set Review:
I was going to stick this in an official article, but the other half of that article never really got going so here's the 3CB part.
Overall RAV is not the best 3CB set. Radiance, Dredge, and Transmute are pretty worthless in 3CB, and Convoke is hard to get working. A LOT of the set is spent mucking around with the library, which obviously doesn't do much in 3CB. Not to mention, of course, multicolor has always been hard to pull off. RAV makes it easier, but it's still probably not worth straying from monocolor cards.
A lot of the new inclusions require Mishra's Factory to work well, which is too bad considering the prevalence of Wasteland right now. I might reban it, even if just temporarily, to give us a chance to muck around with the new stuff.
Besides this list, I must say that there are a lot of cards in RAV that are decent for 3CB but still not the best choice. A T2 3CB wouldn't be too painful right now.
Individual cards:
Ooh!: Lore Broker: Not a bad Disrupting Scepter against slow decks. Probably only fits with Mox/Factory, but there's nothing wrong with that. It depends really whether you want to hurt slow decks with Broker or fast decks with Duress.
Sundering Vitae: Pendelhaven/Thallid/Sundering Vitae, anyone? Similar to the Oxidize version, but more versatile, albeit slower. Also doesn't fear Wasteland.
Putrefy: Only playable in two decks: Mishra's Factory/Golgari Rot Farm/Putrefy and Treetop Village/Golgari Rot Farm/Putrefy. Is it worth it? Oh my yes
Nullstone Gargoyle: Lotus/Channel/Gargoyle could become an archetype of sorts. Better than Plat Angel and Darksteel Colossus? Only time will tell :).
Plague Boiler: Workshop decks get a Wrath? Oh my yes! Screw you Culling Scales! Then again, this does garner draws since you can't play a win condition, then this, and then win.
Spectral Searchlight: Workshop decks get to cast a 4cc lock piece and still have a win condition? This is probably better than Metalworker.
Boros Garrison/Golgari Rot Farm/Dimir Aqueduct/Selesnya Sanctuary: Gold cards are playable? Of course, requires a third card to play them, which will usually be a Factory or a Village. I suppose we'll see. But I'm sure these will pop up.
Meh:
Convoke spells that aren't Sundering Vitae: These look interesting. Sadly, the only good ways to get a bunch of creatures into play either take three cards to set up (Words of Wilding, Mobilization) or are Thallid. Thallid, of course, makes creatures too slowly to bother with the more expensive spells.
Golgari Thug: Take your pick: 1/1 version of Nether Spirit that costs mana or 1/1 that turns into a Raise Dead. Could be interesting, but finding the right deck for it will be a trick.
Searing Meditation: Sheltered Valley/Boros Garrison/Searing Meditation could be interesting. Decent, even :p.
Nah:
Blazing Archon: Interesting card. Sadly, nowhere near as good as Akroma, which pretty much accomplishes the same thing. Who's swinging into a 6/6 first striker? Also not as good as Visara.
Suppression Field: Tempting, but pretty much only fits with Factory/Mox, which creates obvious problems of its own. Stick to Needle.
Hunted ____: I really want these to be good, but they're not. Other large p/t/small cost creatures don't give your opponent a win condition on a silver platter. Tempting Wurm is better than Hunted Horror, Indentured Djinn > Hunted Phantasm, and the rest are too expensive for a creature with a drawback like that.
Frenzied Goblin: A decent Flying Men analog if you're playing mono-red or have a second creature. Does this happen often? No.
Vinelasher Kudzu: Oboro, anyone? But really, probably not better than Chlorophant, which already sees no play.
PLAYER OF THE MONTH DETAILS
Ways to get points:
+X points for each point you get in a 3CB tournament (i.e. if you get 30 points in a tournament, you get 30 POTM points)
+10 points for winning a "Coolest Deck" title (I will no longer be eligible for this)
+5 points for winning a "Coolest Deck Name" title (I will no longer be eligible for this)
If you have any questions about this format, about the rules, or simply want to see some statistics about the game, visit 3cb.DratItAll.com The 3CB page!
On the page, you'll find this week's format, links to all the 3CB's, and all-time rankings.
Also, everyone, Listen Up:
New format for suggesting corrections:
Quote from This is what it should look like »
Player#1's NUMBER- Player Name1 - Decklist 1
Player#2's NUMBER - Player Name2 - Decklist 2
Current Match Score
Suggested Match Score
Explain Why
I'd sincerely appreciate all suggestions being in that format. Having the decklist number of what I'm correcting in the post makes things 100% easier for me. Thanks.
ANYway,
Feel free to discuss this week's and next week's 3CB in this thread and post any questions you may have! Good Luck!
Don't have much time to check here, I'll correct later, but I'd think I do a bit better some games than a 0 just because if they start swinging even with a trampler, I can block and regen, then swing on my turn and still be able to keep regen-blocking on their turns since my guy has vigilance (and my forest can't be wastelanded). In particular, I'm thinking of all these arrogant wurm decks. Maybe I'm missing something, I think I should be getting 2 off them.
Decks 5 and 7 (Arrogant Wurm; Lion's Eye Diamond; Wasteland) v. Deck 22 (Bayou; Skyshroud Cutter; Snuff Out )
Is: 0-6
Should be: 2-2
I can wasteland the bayou, then play the wurm, easily winning the race: Therefore, his best bet is to not play anything, which is most obviously a draw.
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Uhm... Golgari Thug is NOT useful. In order to use Dredge, you have to mill yourself. Without a library, you can not use Dredge effectively (well, you could still replace your draws. But you would replace them with nothing)
or you could, y'know, put the Thug on top of your deck...
i did crappy this week, but i deserved it. i didn't even think about 3CB until after the deadline, where i submitted my last deck. oh well.
good to know that Ravnica's legal. i'll make a tricky deck next week.
i assume Wasteland's still legal, pending further notice? (what a pain in the ass, eh? ;))
Okay, Wasteland's back on the watch list.
Sorry for the wait. Lots of stuff going on. I'll try to correct #101 as soon as I can.
1 - Goblinboy: Isamaru, Hound of Konda; Plains; Swords to Plowshares
Okay, Now I'm Addicted.
2 - Istanbul: City of Traitors; Illusionary Mask; Phyrexian Dreadnought
Halloween Came Early This Year
3 - RafaelK: Black Lotus; Charging Troll; Forest
Alt.Treetop.DieDieDie
4 - Tahn: Isamaru, Hound of Konda; Plains; Swords to Plowshares
Why did the Hound cross the road? Because it was thightened with the chicken
5 - Fayul: Arrogant Wurm; Lion's Eye Diamond; Wasteland
Canada's Really Big
6 - halinn: Elvish Spirit Guide; Lion's Eye Diamond; Roar of the Wurm
Guided diamond-wurm
7 - Chimpanzee: Arrogant Wurm; Lion's Eye Diamond; Wasteland
Wasted Arrogant Lion
8 - bertrand: Bayou; Duress; Thallid
The new and worse Daze
9 - Xyre: Black Lotus; Forest; Mystic Snake
Still not Netdecking
10 - Lone Warrior: Black Lotus; Lavaborn Muse; Wasteland
The obligatory Lavaborn Muse submission.dec
11 - AJFirst: Black Lotus; Skittering Skirge; Vendetta
MonoBlackHybrid condensed into 3CB
12 - dasheiff: Aura of Silence; Black Lotus; Treasure Hunter
The New :symw:.dec
13 - r_x_: Black Lotus; Indentured Djinn; Wasteland
Wtf I'm thinking...
14 - Feyd_Ruin: Mishra's Factory; Mishra's Factory; Wasteland
3 Land Green... Minus the green
15 - Dusk_: Mercadian Bazaar; Platinum Angel; Subterranean Hangar
Slow and Steady
16 - Beaker: Black Lotus; Eater of Days; Wasteland
You days are numbered, well maybe not, but you are still gonna die, well maybe not, but im still gonna win, well maybe not, well at least i still get to eat dinner soon, you got yours eaten.
17 - aurorasparrow: Black Lotus; Force of Will; Indentured Djinn
LED acorn harvest therapy.dec
18 - god child: Darksteel Reactor; Energy Field; Sand Silos
Darksteel Field
19 - Greebo: Black Lotus; Isamaru, Hound of Konda; Seal of Cleansing
Woof Woof
20 - wonkey_donkey: Black Lotus; Glowrider; Wasteland
Jumping on the Bandwagon
21 - feuerdrache: Black Lotus; Lavaborn Muse; Wasteland
What an amuseing pun.
22 - Hi, my name is bob and I'm an addict.: Bayou; Skyshroud Cutter; Snuff Out
:teach:!
23 - Shadowlord: Black Lotus; Illusionary Mask; Phyrexian Dreadnought
Masknought^_^;
24 - Bluemage76: Black Lotus; Glowrider; Maze of Ith
Ride wIth Me
XX|1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0-1-2-3-4
-----------------
01|X-6-6-2-6-6-6-0-4-6-2-6-6-2-6-6-2-0-2-2-6-2-6-2 = 92
02|0-X-6-0-0-6-0-3-3-1-2-0-0-0-6-2-2-0-0-0-1-0-1-1 = 34
03|0-0-X-0-0-2-0-6-4-0-0-4-0-6-0-0-0-0-3-6-0-0-0-2 = 33
04|2-6-6-X-6-6-6-0-4-6-2-6-6-2-6-6-2-0-2-2-6-2-6-2 = 92
05|0-6-6-0-X-0-2-6-6-3-2-6-2-6-6-3-2-6-6-6-3-2-0-6 = 85
06|0-0-2-0-6-X-6-6-6-3-2-6-6-6-6-4-2-0-6-6-3-0-0-2 = 78
07|0-6-6-0-2-0-X-6-6-3-2-6-2-6-6-3-2-6-6-6-3-2-0-6 = 85
08|6-3-0-6-0-0-0-X-6-0-0-6-0-0-0-0-0-6-6-3-0-6-3-6 = 57
09|1-3-1-1-0-0-0-0-X-1-1-2-1-0-2-1-1-2-1-2-1-0-1-2 = 24
10|0-4-6-0-3-3-3-6-4-X-2-4-3-3-6-1-2-6-3-3-3-0-0-6 = 71
11|2-2-6-2-2-2-2-6-4-2-X-4-2-3-2-2-2-0-3-6-2-6-2-2 = 66
12|0-6-1-0-0-0-0-0-2-1-1-X-1-2-6-6-1-6-1-4-1-0-6-2 = 47
13|0-6-6-0-2-0-2-6-4-3-2-4-X-6-6-3-2-6-3-6-3-2-0-6 = 78
14|2-6-0-2-0-0-0-6-6-3-3-2-0-X-6-3-0-6-2-2-3-2-0-2 = 56
15|0-0-6-0-0-0-0-6-2-0-2-0-0-0-X-0-1-2-0-6-0-0-0-2 = 27
16|0-2-6-0-3-1-3-6-4-4-2-0-3-3-6-X-2-4-0-3-4-0-0-2 = 58
17|2-2-6-2-2-2-2-6-4-2-2-4-2-6-4-2-X-2-4-6-2-2-2-2 = 70
18|6-6-6-6-0-6-0-0-2-0-6-0-0-0-2-1-2-X-0-0-0-6-3-6 = 58
19|2-6-3-2-0-0-0-0-4-3-3-4-3-2-6-6-1-6-X-2-3-0-6-2 = 64
20|2-6-0-2-0-0-0-3-2-3-0-1-0-2-0-3-0-6-2-X-3-2-0-2 = 39
21|0-4-6-0-3-3-3-6-4-3-2-4-3-3-6-1-2-6-3-3-X-0-0-6 = 71
22|2-6-6-2-2-6-2-0-6-6-0-6-2-2-6-6-2-0-6-2-6-X-6-2 = 84
23|0-4-6-0-6-6-6-3-4-6-2-0-6-6-6-6-2-3-0-6-6-0-X-2 = 86
24|2-4-2-2-0-2-0-0-2-0-2-2-0-2-2-2-2-0-2-2-0-2-2-X = 34
1. Goblinboy (1) - Okay, Now I'm Addicted. - 92
1. Tahn (4) - Why did the Hound cross the road? Because it was thightened with the chicken - 92
3. Shadowlord (23) - Masknought^_^; - 86
4. Fayul (5) - Canada's Really Big - 85
4. Chimpanzee (7) - Wasted Arrogant Lion - 85
6. Hi, my name is bob and I'm an addict. (22) - :teach:! - 84
7. halinn (6) - Guided diamond-wurm - 78
7. r_x_ (13) - Wtf I'm thinking... - 78
9. Lone Warrior (10) - The obligatory Lavaborn Muse submission.dec - 71
9. feuerdrache (21) - What an amuseing pun. - 71
11. aurorasparrow (17) - LED acorn harvest therapy.dec - 70
12. AJFirst (11) - MonoBlackHybrid condensed into 3CB - 66
13. Greebo (19) - Woof Woof - 64
14. Beaker (16) - You days are numbered, well maybe not, but you are still gonna die, well maybe not, but im still gonna win, well maybe not, well at least i still get to eat dinner soon, you got yours eaten. - 58
14. god child (18) - Darksteel Field - 58
16. bertrand (8) - The new and worse Daze - 57
17. Feyd_Ruin (14) - 3 Land Green... Minus the green - 56
18. dasheiff (12) - The New :symw:.dec - 47
19. wonkey_donkey (20) - Jumping on the Bandwagon - 39
20. Istanbul (2) - Halloween Came Early This Year - 34
20. Bluemage76 (24) - Ride wIth Me - 34
22. RafaelK (3) - Alt.Treetop.DieDieDie - 33
23. Dusk_ (15) - Slow and Steady - 27
24. Xyre (9) - Still not Netdecking - 24
Congrats to Goblinboy and Tahn for winning 3CB #102!
Congrats to RafaelK for winning "Coolest Deck"
Congrats to feuerdrache for winning "Coolest Deck Title"
Watch list:
Wasteland
Banned cards:
PLEASE CHECK YOUR DECK BEFORE SUBMITTING
The Rack
Form of the Dragon
Balance
Strip Mine
Glacial Chasm
Blackmail
Coercion
Pulse of the Dross
Cabal Therapy
Mesmeric Fiend
Abandon Hope
Nezumi Shortfang
Meddling Mage
Leonin Squire
Show and Tell
Misguided Rage
All ante cards
Any card that forces your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn.
Any non-mass-produced card (Proposal, 1996 World Champion, etc.)
Unglued
Unhinged
Banned Decks:
*Any deck that can feasibly force your opponent to discard more than 1 card a turn. (The word force here is important. Mind Bomb is still legal, unless combined with Mindslaver ) (NOTE: Remove-From-Hand effects count as discarding)
*Any deck that can feasibly win on the first turn. (i.e. no matter who goes first, your deck cannot goldfish before the start of their second turn)
The Next Tournament
The next tournament starts right now and will be tabulated on the closing day. Entries will be closed October 9, 2005 at midnight PST and results will be posted soon thereafter
THE NEXT TOURNAMENT WILL BE A NORMAL FORMAT!!!
Nothing special except that Ravnica is legal!!!!
PLAYER OF THE MONTH DETAILSWays to get points:
+X points for each point you get in a 3CB tournament (i.e. if you get 30 points in a tournament, you get 30 POTM points)
+10 points for winning a "Coolest Deck" title (I will no longer be eligible for this)
+5 points for winning a "Coolest Deck Name" title (I will no longer be eligible for this)
If you have any questions about this format, about the rules, or simply want to see some statistics about the game, visit 3cb.DratItAll.com The 3CB page!
On the page, you'll find this week's format, links to all the 3CB's, and all-time rankings.
Also, everyone, Listen Up:
New format for suggesting corrections:
I'd sincerely appreciate all suggestions being in that format. Having the decklist number of what I'm correcting in the post makes things 100% easier for me. Thanks.
ANYway,
Feel free to discuss this week's and next week's 3CB in this thread and post any questions you may have! Good Luck!
-Goblinboy
Always trading for more Kezzerdrixes...drixen...drixii...for more!
"Of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. I'm mad but not ill." - . _Werewolf Bridge_, Robert Anton Wilson
CHAMPION of Survivor MTG News vs. MTG Salvation!
WINNER of DC5 #1!
WINNER of Sept. '06 DCC!
Owner of Stax's Soul!
Think.
Is: 0-6
Should be: 2-2
I can wasteland the bayou, then play the wurm, easily winning the race: Therefore, his best bet is to not play anything, which is most obviously a draw.
Good to know RAV is legal.
Behold, the power of :symu:!
Ask Me About:
The Epic World
You'll Be Glad You Did
Not That There's Anything Wrong With That
4th place at CCC&G Pro Tour
Chances of bad hands (<2 or >4 land):
21: 28.9%
22: 27.5%
23: 26.3%
24: 25.5%
25: 25.1%
26: 25.3%
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Except that it's even better with the original Duals...
ANd those will be played over original duals because.....?
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i did crappy this week, but i deserved it. i didn't even think about 3CB until after the deadline, where i submitted my last deck. oh well.
good to know that Ravnica's legal. i'll make a tricky deck next week.
i assume Wasteland's still legal, pending further notice? (what a pain in the ass, eh? ;))
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
anyway. i'm looking forward to #103. submitting my deck as we speak.