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Results
This week's format was:
100 Turns
A player may not submit a deck that can – against any deck – win the game or force more than one card in an opponent's hand to change zones before an opponent's 100th turn.
Five Card Blind (5CB) is a weekly Magic tournament, run entirely within this forum. To compete, players submit five-card decks which are played against each other. Scoring assumes optimal play, without randomness or concealed information.
1.2. Players' decks contain exactly five cards, which begin the game in hand. Players do not mulligan or sideboard.
1.3. Players' libraries begin the game empty. A player does not lose the game as a result of being unable to draw a card.
1.4. A random effect produces the result that least benefits the owner of the source of the effect.
2. Tournament Rules
2.1. Players submit their decks to the 5CB moderator.
2.1a. The moderator acknowledges submissions and informs players of mistakes in a timely manner.
2.1b. A player may submit multiple decks, but only the most recent is counted.
2.1c. If a player's final deck is illegal, the moderator replaces cards in the deck with Library of Alexandria until the deck is made legal. Replacements are made such that the revised deck functions as closely as possible to the original.
2.2. A player may not submit a deck that can – against any deck – win the game or force more than one card in an opponent's hand to change zones before an opponent's second turn.
For example, Cabal Therapy + Swamp x4 is illegal because an opponent's deck may have duplicates of a card, but Cabal Therapy + Subterranean Hangar x4 is legal because Cabal Therapy can't be played until the third turn.
2.3. A deck may include any number of any card legal in Vintage (Type 1), with the exception of the following banned cards:
2.4. Each player plays one match, consisting of two games, against each other player. Each player is the starting player once per match. Results assume optimal play and perfect information.
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2.6. In rounds of twenty or more players, players are divided randomly into equally-sized heats of n players, where n is the number of players divided by ten (rounded down).
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2.6a. A player only plays against players in his heat.
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2.7a. A month includes all rounds for which decks are due during that month.
2.7b. The top eight players of rounds of less than twenty players and all players in the finals of rounds of twenty or more players earn POTM points according to their rank; The player with the highest score earns 1 POTM point for each player in the finals, and each subsequent player earns one point less than the previous player. Tied players earn equal points but are counted as separate players when calculating the points of other players.
2.7c. Tiebreakers for top eight are as follows: number of matches in which a player wins both games, number of game wins, points scored against higher-scoring decks. If a tie is unresolved, both tied decks are counted.
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is marked as a 2-2, but should be 0-6.
If he ever puts down his Cove, I can Vindicate it before he can cast Take Possession. Even if he gets an Energy Field down before I do that, he'll sac the Energy Field when the Cove goes to his graveyard.
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I can vindicate his cove before he steals my storage land. Assuming he drops his cove, I add counters on my 2nd and third turn. Then I vindicate on my 4th turn. This takes out any of his energy fields as well. Then I can drop wheel of sun and moon later and slowly sting him to death with a hundred thousand stings.
Isn't Searing Touch + Storage Land illegal? It only take 96 mana to kill with the touch, since you don't have to pay the buyback for the final point of damage.
That's a remarkably good point. Poo.
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This is a very sad thing for me to point out, since it is so nice to see that number 3 next to my name, but my deck has Searing Touch too.
This is much more tragically hilarious when you know that it was the fourth illegal deck I submitted...
Ok, three of them won with Searing Touch, and only two were illegal because of the buyback thing, and only one actually got sent back to me by Mogg, cause I resubmitted of my own accord. But still.
Ok, three of them won with Searing Touch, and only two were illegal because of the buyback thing, and only one actually got sent back to me by Mogg, cause I resubmitted of my own accord. But still.
All four after the deadline, with less than ten hours between the first and last submission.
All corrections have been added to the starting post.
With the possible exception of the New Player Round, I think this has been the round with the most illegal decks submitted. Also, I set a record for number of legal decks I initially rejected.
Results
This week's format was:
100 Turns
A player may not submit a deck that can – against any deck – win the game or force more than one card in an opponent's hand to change zones before an opponent's 100th turn.
Helix Pinnacle is banned.
1 WhammWhamme – Cursed Land / Heart of Bogardan / Molten Slagheap / Swamp / Thoughtseize
2 ced395 – Epic Struggle / Fungal Reaches / Springjack Pasture / The Rack / Violent Ultimatum
3 jordman – Energy Field / Energy Field / Saprazzan Cove / Take Possession / Take Possession
4 Shogun17 – Icatian Store / Orzhova, the Church of Deals / Swamp / Thoughtseize / Vindicate
5 Niv – Calciform Pools / Caribou Range / Rupture Spire / Sterling Grove / Test of Endurance
6 FuriouslySleepingIdea – Death of a Thousand Stings / Scrubland / Saltcrusted Steppe / Vindicate / Wheel of Sun and Moon
7 Halinn – Black Lotus / Coercion / Epic Struggle / Rushwood Grove / Springjack Pasture
8 VikingMetal4L – Dwarven Hold / Heart of Bogardan / Pithing Needle / Swamp / Thoughtseize
9 joedredd – Blasting Station / Calciform Pools / Lotus Petal / Springjack Pasture / Stifle
10 bmh – Conjurer's Bauble / Fountain of Cho / Leyline of the Void / Springjack Pasture / Test of Endurance
11 shteev – Black Lotus / Dissipate / Musician / Sea's Claim / Sand Silos
X| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
1| X 2 2 0 6 6 3 3 6 6 1 | 33
2| 2 X 2 1 6 0 2 1 6 6 1 | 27
3| 2 2 X 0 2 2 1 0 2 2 0 | 13
4| 6 4 6 X 6 6 4 6 6 6 3 | 52
5| 0 0 2 0 X 0 0 0 6 6 0 | 14
6| 0 6 2 0 6 X 0 0 6 6 0 | 26
7| 3 2 4 1 6 6 X 1 6 6 1 | 35
8| 3 4 6 0 6 6 4 X 6 6 1 | 41
9| 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 X 2 0 | 4
0| 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 X 0 | 4
1| 4 4 6 3 6 6 4 4 6 6 X | 48
1 Shogun17 (4): 52
2 shteev (12): 48
3 VikingMetal4L (8): 41
4 Halinn (7): 35
5 WhammWhamme (1): 33
6 ced395 (2): 27
7 FuriouslySleepingIdea (6): 26
8 Niv (5): 14
Shogun17 wins 5CB #101.
0. Overview
Five Card Blind (5CB) is a weekly Magic tournament, run entirely within this forum. To compete, players submit five-card decks which are played against each other. Scoring assumes optimal play, without randomness or concealed information.
1. Game Rules
1.1. Except for the changes described in these rules, games follow the Magic: The Gathering Comprehensive Rules.
1.2. Players' decks contain exactly five cards, which begin the game in hand. Players do not mulligan or sideboard.
1.3. Players' libraries begin the game empty. A player does not lose the game as a result of being unable to draw a card.
1.4. A random effect produces the result that least benefits the owner of the source of the effect.
2. Tournament Rules
2.1. Players submit their decks to the 5CB moderator.
2.2. A player may not submit a deck that can – against any deck – win the game or force more than one card in an opponent's hand to change zones before an opponent's second turn.
2.3. A deck may include any number of any card legal in Vintage (Type 1), with the exception of the following banned cards:
2.4. Each player plays one match, consisting of two games, against each other player. Each player is the starting player once per match. Results assume optimal play and perfect information.
2.5. Points determine tournament standings. Players are ranked, first to last, in order of decreasing number of points.
2.6. In rounds of twenty or more players, players are divided randomly into equally-sized heats of n players, where n is the number of players divided by ten (rounded down).
2.7. The player with the most POTM points over the course of a month becomes the Player of the Month.
Season 1
March 2005
Round 1 r_x, Greebo, zorbop
Round 2 Ankh-Morpokian
Round 3 Greebo
Round 4 Chimpanzee
POTM: Greebo
April 2005
Round 5 help im a bug, Draco9_1_1 (Only Creatures)
Round 6 Greebo (Only Creatures)
Round 7 spuzzem king
Round 8 bateleur
POTM: spuzzem king
May 2005
Round 9 Feyd_Ruin (Only Multicolor)
Round 10 jcsuperstar (Only Multicolor)
Round 11 Lone Warrior
Round 12 Wanderer359
POTM: WhammWhamme
June 2005
Round 13 Silver Seraph, Greebo (Titania's Song)
Round 14 WhammWhamme (Titania's Song)
Round 15 Tahn (Artist Tribute)
Round 16 Lone Warrior (Artist Tribute)
POTM: bateleur, Greebo
July 2005
Round 17 Shadowlord
Round 18 bateleur
Round 19 Shadowlord (Pay 19: Add 1)
Round 20 Greebo (Pay 19: Add 1)
POTM: Shadowlord
August 2005
Round 21 Greebo
Round 22 Greebo
Round 23 spuzzem king (One-Million Life)
Round 24 WhammWhamme (One-Million Life)
POTM: Greebo
September 2005
Round 25 Chimpanzee, Shadowlord
Round 26 dasheiff
Round 27 Chimpanzee (Orrery)
Round 28 Halinn (Orrery)
POTM: jcsuperstar
October 2005
Round 29 Beaker
Round 30 Feuerdrache, Wanderer359
Round 31 r_x (Dream Halls)
Round 32 Puzzle (Dream Halls)
POTM: Chimpanzee
November 2005
Round 33 bateleur
Round 34 Shadowlord
Round 35 jcsuperstar (Backbuild)
Round 36 jcsuperstar (Backbuild)
POTM: bateleur
December 2005
Round 37 bateleur
Round 38 Wanderer359
Round 39 WhammWhamme (Ban a Card)
Round 40 dasheiff, Lone Warrior (Ban a Card)
POTM: Beaker
January 2006
Round 41 Lone Warrior
Round 42 Silver Seraph
Round 43 Trojan (1984)
Round 44 Beaker (1984)
POTM: Lone Warrior
February 2006
Round 45 bateleur
Round 46 Halinn
Round 47 bateleur (7 Life)
Round 48 Chimpanzee (7 Life)
POTM: bateleur
March 2006
Round 49 armlx
Round 50 bateleur
Round 51 armlx (Leyline)
Round 52 Chimpanzee, Greebo (Leyline)
POTM: armlx
April 2006
Round 53 jcsuperstar
Round 54 armlx
Round 55 bateleur (Epic)
Round 56 Xyre (Epic)
POTM: jcsuperstar
May 2006
Round 57 jcsuperstar
Round 58 Pingele_Pats (Banathon)
Round 59 Amadi (Banathon)
Round 60 Solitaire (Banathon)
POTM: Pingele_Pats
June 2006
Round 61 Farik (One-Million Life)
Round 62 Wrath_of_Dog, zu_Faul (Leyline)
Round 63 Beaker (7 Life)
POTM: silicon
July 2006
Round 64 Pingele_Pats (Multi-Set)
Round 65 WhammWhamme, zu_Faul (Extended)
POTM: None
September 2007
Round 1 (Introduction)
Round 2 andelijah
POTM: None
October 2007
Round 3 Mogg
Round 4 Chimpanzee (Lorwyn)
Round 5 Meat Popsicle (Repeat Letters)
Round 6 Mogg (10 Life)
POTM: Mogg
November 2007
Round 7 Death_By_Beebles
Round 8 jcsuperstar (Mindslaver)
Round 9 Mogg (Thanksgiving Special)
Round 10 Mogg (Thanksgiving Special, Part Two)
POTM: Mogg
December 2007
Round 11 carrion pigeons
Round 12 Mogg (Later Alphabet)
Round 13 Mogg (Backbuild)
Round 14 Xyre (Backbuild)
POTM: Mogg
January 2008
Round 15 armlx
Round 16 Chimpanzee (Auras)
Round 17 Mogg (Doubling Season)
Round 18 carrion pigeons, Chimpanzee (Doubling Season)
Round 19 WhammWhamme (31 Bans)
POTM: Mogg
February 2008
Round 20 Chimpanzee
Round 21 Mogg (Combat)
Round 22 Mogg (Combat)
Round 23 Knowledge
POTM: Mogg
March 2008
Round 24 Mogg (Consecutive Names)
Round 25 Chimpanzee (Consecutive Names)
Round 26 The Mad Tapper
Round 27 The Mad Tapper
POTM: The Mad Tapper
April 2008
Round 28 The Mad Tapper (DC5)
Round 29 jcsuperstar (DC5)
Round 30 jcsuperstar (< 20)
Round 31 bateleur
POTM: bateleur
May 2008
Round 32 WhammWhamme (Leyline)
Round 33 Silver Seraph (Mana Market)
Round 34 bateleur (Helm of Awakening and Mirari)
Round 35 Alfred (Pre-entered Decks)
POTM: bateleur
June 2008
Round 36 bateleur, YuanTi
Round 37 WhammWhamme (Favorite Colors)
Round 38 YuanTi (Lotus)
Round 39 Mogg (Mogg Week)
POTM: WhammWhamme
July 2008
Round 40 bateleur (Mulligans)
Round 41 Mogg
Round 42 Chimpanzee
Round 43 ced395 (Even)
POTM: Mogg
August 2008
Round 44 WhammWhamme (Odd)
Round 45 Farik (No Bans)
Round 46 Mogg
POTM: Error1
September 2008
Round 47 ghweiss (Low-Scoring)
Round 48 theeguy (Backbuild, Part Two)
Round 49 Mogg
Round 50 Mogg (50 Life)
Round 51 Error1 (Landline)
POTM: Mogg
October 2008
Round 52 Shogun17 (Exploration)
Round 53 MT_Gunn (Multicolor Discount)
Round 54 Silkenfist (2-2)
Round 55 bateleur, WhammWhamme
POTM: Error1
November 2008
Round 56 Error1 (Colorless Creatures)
Round 57 Knowledge, Silkenfist (Legendary Creatures)
POTM: None
December 2008
Round 58 (Introduction)
Round 59 Halinn
Round 60 Halinn
Round 61 ced395 (Christmas Special)
Round 62 MyNameIsFourteen (New Year's Special)
POTM: None
January 2009
Round 63 Mogg
Round 64 Mogg (Nemesis)
Round 65 MyNameIsFourteen (Nemesis)
Round 66 Mogg
POTM: Mogg
February 2009
Round 67 Chimpanzee
Round 68 MyNameIsFourteen (Lovely Letters)
Round 69 Naphtali (Lovely Letters, Part 2)
Round 70 bateleur
POTM: bateleur
March 2009
Round 71 ced395, Chimpanzee
Round 72 ced395 (Activated)
Round 73 WhammWhamme (Activated)
Round 74 bateleur
POTM: Chimpanzee
April 2009
Round 75 Xyre
Round 76 Mogg, ngollon (Landline-Orrery)
Round 77 Mogg (Landline-Orrery)
Round 78 Mogg
POTM: Mogg
May 2009
Round 79 bateleur
Round 80 ced395 (Upwelling)
Round 81 Mogg (Upwelling)
Round 82 Halinn
Round 83 r_x_
New Player Round math_geek
POTM: Mogg
June 2009
Round 84 Kekekekeke (Block Party)
Round 85 FuriouslySleepingIdea (Block Party)
Round 86 Mogg
Round 87 Farik
POTM: Mogg
July 2009
Round 88 bateleur, dethwing (Infinite Cards)
Round 89 Farik, lOput (Infinite Cards)
Round 90 Farik, Mogg, Personman
Round 91 Madmanquail
Round 92 bateleur (Backbuild, Part Three)
POTM: Madmanquail
August 2009
Round 93 DragonDart (Backbuild, Part Three)
Round 94 lOput
Round 95 domogrue
Round 96 Mogg (Dream Halls)
POTM: ced395
September 2009
Round 97 Mogg (Dream Halls)
Round 98 ced395
Round 99 FuriouslySleepingIdea
Round 100 bateleur, dethwing, FuriouslySleepingIdea, Krashbot, Shogun17, VikingMetal4L (100 Turns)
POTM: FuriouslySleepingIdea
October 2009
Round 101 Shogun17 (100 Turns Revised)
Rounds
Mogg: 26
bateleur: 19
Chimpanzee: 12
WhammWhamme: 10
Greebo: 8
jcsuperstar: 8
ced395: 6
Farik: 5
Halinn: 5
armlx: 4
Lone Warrior: 4
Shadowlord: 4
Beaker: 3
FuriouslySleepingIdea: 3
MyNameIsFourteen: 3
r_x_: 3
Shogun17: 3
Silver Seraph: 3
The Mad Tapper: 3
Wanderer359: 3
Xyre: 3
carrion pigeons: 2
dasheiff: 2
dethwing: 2
Error1: 2
Knowledge: 2
lOput: 2
Pingele_Pats: 2
Silkenfist: 2
spuzzem king: 2
YuanTi: 2
zu_Faul: 2
Alfred: 1
Amadi: 1
andelijah: 1
Ankh-Morpokian: 1
Death By Beebles: 1
domogrue: 1
Draco9_1_1: 1
DragonDart: 1
Feuerdrache: 1
Feyd_Ruin: 1
ghweiss: 1
help im a bug: 1
Kekekekeke: 1
Krashbot: 1
Madmanquail: 1
Meat Popsicle: 1
MT Gunn: 1
Naphtali: 1
ngollon: 1
Personman: 1
Puzzle: 1
Solitaire: 1
Tahn: 1
theeguy: 1
Trojan: 1
VikingMetal4L: 1
Wrath_of_Dog: 1
zorbop: 1
POTM
Mogg: 11
bateleur: 6
Greebo: 3
Chimpanzee: 2
Error1: 2
jcsuperstar: 2
WhammWhamme: 2
armlx: 1
Beaker: 1
ced395: 1
FuriouslySleepingIdea: 1
Lone Warrior: 1
Madmanquail: 1
math_geek: 1
Pingele_Pats: 1
Shadowlord: 1
silicon: 1
spuzzem king: 1
The Mad Tapper: 1
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Going Blind: Metagaming – Being Overly Analytical
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BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy
do anything productive? It can only get to 2 mana and can't cast Vindicate or DoaTS.
Also, I checked my deck's results and have a correction.
4 jordman – Energy Field / Energy Field / Saprazzan Cove / Take Possession / Take Possession
vs.
5 Shogun17 – Icatian Store / Orzhova, the Church of Deals / Swamp / Thoughtseize / Vindicate
is marked as a 2-2, but should be 0-6.
If he ever puts down his Cove, I can Vindicate it before he can cast Take Possession. Even if he gets an Energy Field down before I do that, he'll sac the Energy Field when the Cove goes to his graveyard.
I suspect that's really a Saltcrusted Steppe.
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vs
7 FuriouslySleepingIdea – Death of a Thousand Stings / Scrubland / Secluded Steppe / Vindicate / Wheel of Sun and Moon
I should win this one 6-0
I can vindicate his cove before he steals my storage land. Assuming he drops his cove, I add counters on my 2nd and third turn. Then I vindicate on my 4th turn. This takes out any of his energy fields as well. Then I can drop wheel of sun and moon later and slowly sting him to death with a hundred thousand stings.
That's a remarkably good point. Poo.
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Orzhova is amazing in that it represents both linear damage output and linear life gain. Congratulations to Shogun17.
This is a very sad thing for me to point out, since it is so nice to see that number 3 next to my name, but my deck has Searing Touch too.
This is much more tragically hilarious when you know that it was the fourth illegal deck I submitted...
Ok, three of them won with Searing Touch, and only two were illegal because of the buyback thing, and only one actually got sent back to me by Mogg, cause I resubmitted of my own accord. But still.
All four after the deadline, with less than ten hours between the first and last submission.
All corrections have been added to the starting post.
With the possible exception of the New Player Round, I think this has been the round with the most illegal decks submitted. Also, I set a record for number of legal decks I initially rejected.
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy