A wonderfully close POTM race, three players within only a few points of each – once you get past first place. Congratulations to bateleur, who took the lead in round two and stayed the course to become February's Player of the Month.
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3 bateleur – Black Lotus / Disrupting Shoal / Form of the Dragon / Misdirection / Show and Tell Misdirection is a sore subject with me, but Disrupting Shoal comes across as even weaker than Snapback. Obviously, it worked well against Chimpanzee this round, but as that deck seems to me strictly inferior to Lattice, that's not justification. Shoal counters Voidstone Gargoyle, and in desperation, a 3cc, but what else, and when does a single counter on a 3cc even draw the game?
4 WhammWhamme – Dryad Arbor / Commandeer / Invigorate / Slippery Bogle / Snapback My prejudice against Commandeer aside, I don't understand Slippery Bogle. Its invulnerability is irrelevant if Arbor can be killed, or the 1/1 can be outrace. I like the Arbor-Invigorate synergy, but it's cute more than game-winning.
6 Naphtali – Black Lotus / Black Lotus / Blood Moon / Glowrider / Preacher I haven't seen this archetype in a long time, and it brings back memories of when I started to play 5CB. Then, Blood Moon was Magus and 3-3 counted for 3 points. The deck's lost some power, but, to me, it will always be the better OMC.
7 ced395 – Black Lotus / Daze / Progenitus / Sneak Attack / Volcanic Island I love Sneak Attack, so I'm happy to see it do well. It's an interesting point between three and four card combo, but for now, it seems inferior to three cards. Compare to a Form deck with Island and Daze. What do you gain?
8 MyNameIsFourteen – Foil / Forest / Llanowar Mentor / Progenitus / Tropical Island I was told someone would play this. My problem with the deck is that it values resilience when it shouldn't. I'm talking about the win condition; Forest + Mentor. Mentor provides a decent clock, but turn 8 only outraces 2/2's. To get into a debate over Pendelhaven vs. Forest would miss the point that what a Foil deck needs is not a faster clock, but the second piece of disruption; to prevent recovery. For this reason, I almost always prefer Foil decks that play Black Lotus.
Five Card Blind (5CB) is a weekly Magic tournament, run entirely within this forum. Players "blindly" submit five-card decks to compete against each other. Scoring assumes optimal play; given perfect information and no random effects, a match will always have the same outcome.
Rules
1. Players' decks contain exactly five cards, which begin the game in hand. Players do not mulligan or sideboard.
2. Players' libraries begin the game empty, but still exist. Players do not lose the game as a result of being unable to draw a card.
3. A random effect produces the result that least benefits the owner of the source of the effect.
4. During players' first and second turns, no player may make a play which would win the game, create an extra turn, or force a card in an opponent's hand to change zones.
5. Decks may include any number of any card legal in Vintage, with the exception of the following cards:
1. Each participant submits a deck to the 5CB moderator (Mogg). If a participant submits multiple decks, then only the most recent submission is counted.
2. Each participant plays against each other participant. Matches consist of two games, with each player going first once. Results assume perfect information and play.
3. Points determine tournament standings; the player with the most points wins the round. For each match, players earn: 3 points for two wins or a win and a draw, 1 point for two draws or a win and a loss, and 0 points for two losses or a draw and a loss. Tiebreakers are determined by number of games won, followed by number of games drawn.
4. The points from all rounds ending in a given month are summed to determine that month's Player of the Month. At the end of each month, the player with the most points becomes the Player of the Month.
Misdirection is a sore subject with me, but Disrupting Shoal comes across as even weaker than Snapback. Obviously, it worked well against Chimpanzee this round, but as that deck seems to me strictly inferior to Lattice, that's not justification. Shoal counters Voidstone Gargoyle, and in desperation, a 3cc, but what else, and when does a single counter on a 3cc even draw the game?
Fair commentary. The thing is that really I just want Misdirection to act as a counterspell against other countermagic here. Snapback has always seemed near useless to me (only good if you're expecting Meddling Mages), so I wanted to experiment with a different 5th card. For a while that card was Rishadan Cutpurse and maybe should have stayed that way.
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Congrats bateleur, I remember you being up there every month last time I was playing.
Thanks! I still do OK, but it's been a long time since I've won PotM. The average standard of play is a lot higher now.
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This week had normal format.
Results
1 Mogg – Dark Depths / Dust Bowl / Maze of Ith / The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale / Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
This week taught me something about bannings; I banned Pact of Negation to oust Mirror combo from its dominant position, and the result was a flood of similar decks that would have played second-best. I didn't get the memo.
2 Chimpanzee – Black Lotus / Channel / Decree of Silence / Lich's Mirror / Magma Mine
My standard for Lotus decks that lose to Foil is Lattice. I don't see how this is superior.
3 bateleur – Black Lotus / Disrupting Shoal / Form of the Dragon / Misdirection / Show and Tell
Misdirection is a sore subject with me, but Disrupting Shoal comes across as even weaker than Snapback. Obviously, it worked well against Chimpanzee this round, but as that deck seems to me strictly inferior to Lattice, that's not justification. Shoal counters Voidstone Gargoyle, and in desperation, a 3cc, but what else, and when does a single counter on a 3cc even draw the game?
4 WhammWhamme – Dryad Arbor / Commandeer / Invigorate / Slippery Bogle / Snapback
My prejudice against Commandeer aside, I don't understand Slippery Bogle. Its invulnerability is irrelevant if Arbor can be killed, or the 1/1 can be outrace. I like the Arbor-Invigorate synergy, but it's cute more than game-winning.
5 Halinn – Black Lotus / Black Lotus / Black Lotus / Hunting Pack / Yawgmoth's Will
The results definitely surprised me, but the deck takes good advantage of Foil (and Foil look-a-like Commandeer) as the dominant combo hate.
6 Naphtali – Black Lotus / Black Lotus / Blood Moon / Glowrider / Preacher
I haven't seen this archetype in a long time, and it brings back memories of when I started to play 5CB. Then, Blood Moon was Magus and 3-3 counted for 3 points. The deck's lost some power, but, to me, it will always be the better OMC.
7 ced395 – Black Lotus / Daze / Progenitus / Sneak Attack / Volcanic Island
I love Sneak Attack, so I'm happy to see it do well. It's an interesting point between three and four card combo, but for now, it seems inferior to three cards. Compare to a Form deck with Island and Daze. What do you gain?
8 MyNameIsFourteen – Foil / Forest / Llanowar Mentor / Progenitus / Tropical Island
I was told someone would play this. My problem with the deck is that it values resilience when it shouldn't. I'm talking about the win condition; Forest + Mentor. Mentor provides a decent clock, but turn 8 only outraces 2/2's. To get into a debate over Pendelhaven vs. Forest would miss the point that what a Foil deck needs is not a faster clock, but the second piece of disruption; to prevent recovery. For this reason, I almost always prefer Foil decks that play Black Lotus.
Matches
X| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1| X 0 0 6 0 0 0 6 | 6
2| 6 X 0 0 6 3 3 0 | 8
3| 6 6 X 6 6 3 6 6 | 19
4| 0 6 0 X 0 2 0 0 | 4
5| 6 0 0 6 X 3 6 6 | 13
6| 6 3 3 2 3 X 3 0 | 8
7| 6 3 0 6 0 3 X 4 | 11
8| 0 6 0 6 0 6 0 X | 9
Tournament Standings
1 bateleur: 19
2 Halinn: 13
3 ced395: 11
4 MyNameIsFourteen: 9
5 Naphtali: 8
5 Chimpanzee: 8
7 Mogg: 6
8 WhammWhamme: 4
bateleur wins 5CB #70.
POTM Standings
1 bateleur: 48
2 Naphtali: 35
3 MyNameIsFourteen: 33
4 ced395: 32
5 Mogg: 27
6 Chimpanzee: 24
7 WhammWhamme: 20
8 Halinn: 21
bateleur is Player of the Month.
Overview
Five Card Blind (5CB) is a weekly Magic tournament, run entirely within this forum. Players "blindly" submit five-card decks to compete against each other. Scoring assumes optimal play; given perfect information and no random effects, a match will always have the same outcome.
Rules
1. Players' decks contain exactly five cards, which begin the game in hand. Players do not mulligan or sideboard.
2. Players' libraries begin the game empty, but still exist. Players do not lose the game as a result of being unable to draw a card.
3. A random effect produces the result that least benefits the owner of the source of the effect.
4. During players' first and second turns, no player may make a play which would win the game, create an extra turn, or force a card in an opponent's hand to change zones.
5. Decks may include any number of any card legal in Vintage, with the exception of the following cards:
Force of Will
Pact of Negation
Magus of the Moon
Trinisphere
Ghost Quarter
Wasteland
Strip Mine
Tournament Structure
1. Each participant submits a deck to the 5CB moderator (Mogg). If a participant submits multiple decks, then only the most recent submission is counted.
2. Each participant plays against each other participant. Matches consist of two games, with each player going first once. Results assume perfect information and play.
3. Points determine tournament standings; the player with the most points wins the round. For each match, players earn: 3 points for two wins or a win and a draw, 1 point for two draws or a win and a loss, and 0 points for two losses or a draw and a loss. Tiebreakers are determined by number of games won, followed by number of games drawn.
4. The points from all rounds ending in a given month are summed to determine that month's Player of the Month. At the end of each month, the player with the most points becomes the Player of the Month.
September 2007
Round 1 (Introduction)
Round 2 andelijah
POTM: None
October 2007
Round 3 Mogg
Round 4 Chimpanzee (Lorwyn)
Round 5 Meat Popsicle (Repeat Letters)
Round 6 Mogg (10 Life)
POTM: Mogg
November 2007
Round 7 Death_By_Beebles
Round 8 jcsuperstar (Mindslaver)
Round 9 Mogg (Thanksgiving Special)
Round 10 Mogg (Thanksgiving Special, Part Two)
POTM: Mogg
December 2007
Round 11 carrion pigeons
Round 12 Mogg (Later Alphabet)
Round 13 Mogg (Backbuild)
Round 14 Xyre (Backbuild)
POTM: Mogg
January 2008
Round 15 armlx
Round 16 Chimpanzee (Auras)
Round 17 Mogg (Doubling Season)
Round 18 carrion pigeons, Chimpanzee (Doubling Season)
Round 19 WhammWhamme (31 Bans)
POTM: Mogg
February 2008
Round 20 Chimpanzee
Round 21 Mogg (Combat)
Round 22 Mogg (Combat)
Round 23 Knowledge
POTM: Mogg
March 2008
Round 24 Mogg (Consecutive Names)
Round 25 Chimpanzee (Consecutive Names)
Round 26 The Mad Tapper
Round 27 The Mad Tapper
POTM: The Mad Tapper
April 2008
Round 28 The Mad Tapper (DC5)
Round 29 jcsuperstar (DC5)
Round 30 jcsuperstar (< 20)
Round 31 bateleur
POTM: bateleur
May 2008
Round 32 WhammWhamme (Leyline)
Round 33 Silver Seraph (Mana Market)
Round 34 bateleur (Helm of Awakening and Mirari)
Round 35 Alfred (Pre-entered Decks)
POTM: bateleur
June 2008
Round 36 bateleur
Round 37 WhammWhamme (Favorite Colors)
Round 38 YuanTi (Lotus)
Round 39 Mogg (Mogg Week)
POTM: WhammWhamme
July 2008
Round 40 bateleur (Mulligans)
Round 41 Mogg
Round 42 Chimpanzee
Round 43 ced395 (Even)
POTM: Mogg
August 2008
Round 44 WhammWhamme (Odd)
Round 45 Farik (No Bans)
Round 46 Mogg
POTM: Error1
September 2008
Round 47 ghweiss (Low-Scoring)
Round 48 theeguy (Backbuild, Part Two)
Round 49 Mogg
Round 50 Mogg (50 Life)
Round 51 Error1 (Landline)
POTM: Mogg
October 2008
Round 52 Shogun17 (Exploration)
Round 53 MT_Gunn (Multicolor Discount)
Round 54 Silkenfist (2-2)
Round 55 bateleur, WhammWhamme
POTM: Error1
November 2008
Round 56 Error1 (Colorless Creatures)
Round 57 Knowledge, Silkenfist (Legendary Creatures)
POTM: None
December 2008
Round 58 (Introduction)
Round 59 Halinn
Round 60 Halinn
Round 61 ced395 (Christmas Special)
Round 62 MyNameIsFourteen (New Year's Special)
POTM: None
January 2009
Round 63 Mogg
Round 64 Mogg (Nemesis)
Round 65 MyNameIsFourteen (Nemesis)
Round 66 Mogg
POTM: Mogg
February 2009
Round 67 Chimpanzee
Round 68 MyNameIsFourteen (Lovely Letters)
Round 69 Naphtali (Lovely Letters, Part 2)
Round 70 bateleur
Total Wins Per Player
Rounds
Mogg: 18
bateleur: 6
Chimpanzee: 6
WhammWhamme: 5
jcsuperstar: 3
MyNameIsFourteen: 3
The Mad Tapper: 3
carrion pigeons: 2
ced395: 2
Error1: 2
Halinn: 2
Knowledge: 2
Silkenfist: 2
Alfred: 1
andelijah: 1
armlx: 1
Death By Beebles: 1
Farik: 1
ghweiss: 1
Meat Popsicle: 1
MT Gunn: 1
Naphtali: 1
Shogun17: 1
Silver Seraph: 1
theeguy: 1
Xyre: 1
YuanTi: 1
POTM
Mogg: 8
bateleur: 3
Error1: 2
The Mad Tapper: 1
WhammWhamme: 1
Deck Submission Deadline:
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Please use this thread to discuss any aspect of 5CB.
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy
Fair commentary. The thing is that really I just want Misdirection to act as a counterspell against other countermagic here. Snapback has always seemed near useless to me (only good if you're expecting Meddling Mages), so I wanted to experiment with a different 5th card. For a while that card was Rishadan Cutpurse and maybe should have stayed that way.
(I'm on on this site much anymore. If you want to get in touch it's probably best to email me: dom@heffalumps.org)
Forum Awards: Best Writer 2005, Best Limited Strategist 2005-2012
5CB PotM - June 2005, November 2005, February 2006, April 2008, May 2008, Feb 2009
MTGSalvation Articles: 1-20, plus guest appearance on MTGCast #86!
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6 vs 7
Currently: 0-6
Proposed: 3-3
On the play doesn't 6 just get out Glowrider which will prevent Sneak Attack from ever being played? (Leaving 7 with no threats)
In general my deck was no good on the draw.
Fixed.
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy
Thanks! I still do OK, but it's been a long time since I've won PotM. The average standard of play is a lot higher now.
(I'm on on this site much anymore. If you want to get in touch it's probably best to email me: dom@heffalumps.org)
Forum Awards: Best Writer 2005, Best Limited Strategist 2005-2012
5CB PotM - June 2005, November 2005, February 2006, April 2008, May 2008, Feb 2009
MTGSalvation Articles: 1-20, plus guest appearance on MTGCast #86!
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