1) WhammWhamme - terrible. Gotta come up with better ideas for formats.
Erayo, Soratami Ascendant (Commander)
Memnite
Arcane Laboratory
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Chain of Vapour
Silly build. Curfew over Chain of Vapour? Might have been an idea.
2) bateleur - Big Commander is Big
Commander: Progenitus
Black Lotus
Channel
Lich's Mirror
Disrupting Shoal
Misdirection
Big Commander was Biggest Commander.
3) Gamermk - Gomalu, Go Away!
Commander: Braids, Cabal Minion
Mishra’s Factory
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Thoughtseize
Dust Bowl
Tabernacle didn't do much to stop creatures.
4) Hinotama -
Commander: Omnath, Locus of Mana
Llanowar Mentor
Pendelhaven
Gaea's Cradle
Ulamog the Infinite Gyre
Nature's Claim
The Llanowar Mentor choke-point hurt, and this was a tad slow.
5) Feyd_Ruin - K - A - R - O - N - A -
Commander: Karona, False God
Black Lotus
Channel
Lich's Mirror
Misdirection
Upheaval
Karona, False God
KARONA! ...needing to constantly land a BLotus hurt you.
6) Promatim - Who needs disruption when you can just run a really goofy deck...
Commander: Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
Black Lotus
Mox Sapphire
Island
Gilded Drake
Coralhelm Commander
A little underpowered; dropping your hand first turn was a winning move, though.
8) Shogun17: Here is my entry for this week:
Commander: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Black Lotus
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Calciform Pools
Mangara of Corondor
Chain of Vapor
Quite an interesting deck. I like the Mangara abuse.
9) Mogg - ...blah
Commander: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Foil
Island
Lion's Eye Diamond
Shelldock Isle
10) froffenhoffer - Expecting a slog of Grand Arbiter Mirrors
Commander: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Swans of Bryn argoll
Disrupting shoal
Desert
Yeaaah. I'm running a mox sapphire because I thought this was edh, a singleton format.
I'm sorry wham, but I think your deck and the other two multiple black lotus decks should be DQ'd.
Also lol at the "commander week version is better than normal" comment on the triple black lotus deck that crushed our singleton decks.
Yeah... there was a lot of confusion. But seriously, not having Rakdos start in hand makes the Coercion actually useful against Misdirection and Commandeer (as opposed to game-losing)
Yeaaah. I'm running a mox sapphire because I thought this was edh, a singleton format.
I was under the same impression, that decks needed to be singleton.
I also have a correction for my match against #4:
8) Shogun17
Commander: [CARD]Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Black Lotus
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Calciform Pools
Mangara of Corondor
Chain of Vapor[/CARD]
It's listed as 3-3, but should be 6-0.
When he goes first, he casts Llanowar Mentor. I play Minamo, cast Chain on Llanowar Mentor, cast Lotus and cast Mangara. He casts Mentor again, and I use Mangara to exile it on my turn. I eventually put out Augustin and win, and he can't do anything without an active Mentor.
1) The round stands as is with no one rendered illegal
2) The entire round is scratched
...because when even the guy running the round thinks he didn't make certain changes, it is absolutely not fair to anyone else to reject their deck for not inferring that... but it's not exactly fair to people who did infer it, either.
Right now, I'm leaning towards deleting the entire round, coming up with a new format, and never speaking of this again.
I propose we don't revisit this format rather than clarify it and have to suffer through it again.
We tried it, it was a bit different. Not everyone was on the same page in terms of rules, but so what. That happens all the time in special rounds in 5CB. Let's just let the round stand for what it was, count up the points and move on.
Also, for the record, my deck was singleton completely by accident and I assumed that decks didn't have to be singleton so just because the majority of us submitted singleton decks doesn't mean we all thought that was the rule.
Okay, next week's format needed picking but I've been a little under stress...
So... Fork Week! Everybody loves Fork Week!
Fork Week: Whenever you play a spell, put a copy of it on the stack (permanent spells will resolve and come into play as a token copy of the original spell)
I like this. Fork and Duplicity were some of my favorite past formats, and this mostly combines them.
To potentially avert some illegal entries, I'll point out that this format makes most forced discard before an opponent's second turn illegal (since one discard can easily become two).
Can we ban Leyline of Singularity, or is it too late?
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Erayo, Soratami Ascendant (Commander)
Memnite
Arcane Laboratory
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Chain of Vapour
Silly build. Curfew over Chain of Vapour? Might have been an idea.
2) bateleur - Big Commander is Big
Commander: Progenitus
Black Lotus
Channel
Lich's Mirror
Disrupting Shoal
Misdirection
Big Commander was Biggest Commander.
3) Gamermk - Gomalu, Go Away!
Commander: Braids, Cabal Minion
Mishra’s Factory
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Thoughtseize
Dust Bowl
Tabernacle didn't do much to stop creatures.
4) Hinotama -
Commander: Omnath, Locus of Mana
Llanowar Mentor
Pendelhaven
Gaea's Cradle
Ulamog the Infinite Gyre
Nature's Claim
The Llanowar Mentor choke-point hurt, and this was a tad slow.
5) Feyd_Ruin - K - A - R - O - N - A -
Commander: Karona, False God
Black Lotus
Channel
Lich's Mirror
Misdirection
Upheaval
Karona, False God
KARONA! ...needing to constantly land a BLotus hurt you.
6) Promatim - Who needs disruption when you can just run a really goofy deck...
Commander: Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
Black Lotus
Mox Sapphire
Island
Gilded Drake
Coralhelm Commander
A little underpowered; dropping your hand first turn was a winning move, though.
7) Dasheiff
Commander: Empress Galina
Commandeer
Snapback
Mindbreak Trap
Sand Silos
Darksteel Reactor
Tooooo slooooow.
8) Shogun17: Here is my entry for this week:
Commander: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Black Lotus
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Calciform Pools
Mangara of Corondor
Chain of Vapor
Quite an interesting deck. I like the Mangara abuse.
9) Mogg - ...blah
Commander: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Foil
Island
Lion's Eye Diamond
Shelldock Isle
10) froffenhoffer - Expecting a slog of Grand Arbiter Mirrors
Commander: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Swans of Bryn argoll
Disrupting shoal
Desert
Ironically, you lost the mirror. Both of them.
11) Parsley - Venser!
...I'm out of witticisms and insight. It's a deck.
12) Madmanquail: madman's madcap mad dash minute
Commander: Rakdos the Defiler
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Coercion
Form of the Dragon
Nice mod to the classic Rakdos deck. Commander Week version is better than normal.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2
1 X 3 0 6 6 3 2 3 0 3 6 3
2 3 X 6 6 2 6 6 3 0 3 0 0
3 6 0 X 3 0 6 6 3 0 3 2 3
4 0 0 3 X 0 6 6 3 0 0 6 0
5 0 2 6 6 X 6 6 0 0 0 0 0
6 3 0 0 0 0 X 6 6 0 6 6 0
7 2 0 0 0 0 0 X 0 0 0 6 0
8 3 3 3 3 6 0 6 X 3 6 6 4
9 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 3 X 3 6 3
0 3 3 3 6 6 0 6 0 3 X 0 3
1 0 6 2 0 6 0 0 0 0 6 X 0
2 3 6 3 6 6 6 6 1 3 3 6 X
...here's the grid, anyway. Tired. Next week's format goes up tomorrow. It might be a Commander reprise, but it might not.
I'm sorry wham, but I think your deck and the other two multiple black lotus decks should be DQ'd.
Also ... at the "commander week version is better than normal" comment on the triple black lotus deck that crushed our singleton decks.
Yeah... there was a lot of confusion. But seriously, not having Rakdos start in hand makes the Coercion actually useful against Misdirection and Commandeer (as opposed to game-losing)
I was under the same impression, that decks needed to be singleton.
I also have a correction for my match against #4:
8) Shogun17
Commander: [CARD]Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Black Lotus
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Calciform Pools
Mangara of Corondor
Chain of Vapor[/CARD]
vs.
4) Hinotama
Commander:
It's listed as 3-3, but should be 6-0.
When he goes first, he casts Llanowar Mentor. I play Minamo, cast Chain on Llanowar Mentor, cast Lotus and cast Mangara. He casts Mentor again, and I use Mangara to exile it on my turn. I eventually put out Augustin and win, and he can't do anything without an active Mentor.
1) The round stands as is with no one rendered illegal
2) The entire round is scratched
...because when even the guy running the round thinks he didn't make certain changes, it is absolutely not fair to anyone else to reject their deck for not inferring that... but it's not exactly fair to people who did infer it, either.
Right now, I'm leaning towards deleting the entire round, coming up with a new format, and never speaking of this again.
We tried it, it was a bit different. Not everyone was on the same page in terms of rules, but so what. That happens all the time in special rounds in 5CB. Let's just let the round stand for what it was, count up the points and move on.
Also, for the record, my deck was singleton completely by accident and I assumed that decks didn't have to be singleton so just because the majority of us submitted singleton decks doesn't mean we all thought that was the rule.
I didn't think it was singleton I just happen to choose like that.
I thought it neat that most they were different commanders chosen.
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy
So... Fork Week! Everybody loves Fork Week!
Fork Week: Whenever you play a spell, put a copy of it on the stack (permanent spells will resolve and come into play as a token copy of the original spell)
=)
To potentially avert some illegal entries, I'll point out that this format makes most forced discard before an opponent's second turn illegal (since one discard can easily become two).
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy
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5CB PotM - June 2005, November 2005, February 2006, April 2008, May 2008, Feb 2009
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Leyline seems like the most important, but banning some or all of the others might not be bad.
BWTeysa, Orzhov Scion
GWRhys the Redeemed
GUKruphix, God of Horizons
GRXenagos, God of Revels
GThrun, the Last Troll
GStompy