They're just ripoffs with a name close enough to look the same when written in cursive, but distinct enough to avoid a lawsuit. I just found them by chance in a bargain store.
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They're just ripoffs with a name close enough to look the same when written in cursive, but distinct enough to avoid a lawsuit. I just found them by chance in a bargain store.
And they work better than the real thing?
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I propose a challenge to FPM and FKiH and Spiderboy and anyone else to make a template for cards like that... that is so sick looking... i practically cried at its beauty...
Those templates would actually be very easy to do. I'll whip 'em up for ya after I get some snoozin in.
are those cards tournament legal? i would think that since the borders are colored over, they wouldn't be legal and all they would really be good for is sitting in your book and looking pretty.
I believe that it's legal as long as the cardname, casting cost, typeline(ie the card type and the expansion symbol) card text, and p/t are visible. I'm not sure about the artist(I think the artist doesn't really matter) and the copyright line.
So I think the FoW PBG posted would be legal, but Ron Spencer's altered Firebolt and Sliver Queens wouldn't.
well, i once played against an uktabi orangutan w/ the entire card blacked out except for the picture of the monkey's in the background, the card name, the p/t, and the casting cost. but it's black bordered, so the borders were intact.
i would think that as long as you can tell what the card is, and it's a real card that's legal in that format, then it'd be legal to play w/ the alternate art. but i'm not sure. anyone here know an official ruling on it?
The border does not need to be visible for a card to be legal for sanctioned play. The card name (and maybe mana cost, I'm not sure) must be visible, and the art must be "easily recognizable from across the table." What constitute "easily recognizable from across the table" is up to the head judge in sanctioned tournaments.
Note, however, that if in coloring the border something happened to the side of the card (which is highly likely in some cases), the card could easily be considered marked if it's not in opaque-backed sleeves. So basically, the full-art alterations are fine (and they would even be legal if you covered up the text box), and those Sliver Queens are probably legal (you'd have to ask the head judge), but some things (like the Fire Bolt, the Mana Vault, and some other things posted above) would likely not be legal.
On a different note, some of those cards look awesome and I wouldn't mind having some of those full-art cards myself. I love the idea.
I really wouldnt want to attempt that and ruin my FoW though
EDIT: I found some acrylic paints. Should I dilute them or what? I've never done this. I'm not sure, do I just make an outline and wait for a layer to dry before painting over it?
I really wouldnt want to attempt that and ruin my FoW though
EDIT: I found some acrylic paints. Should I dilute them or what? I've never done this. I'm not sure, do I just make an outline and wait for a layer to dry before painting over it?
If I had a spare FoW (or spare playset) I'd do that. Or more accurately, I'd pay someone with drawing talent to do it.
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Do you draw on black border frames, or is it just the white ones that are doable?
I've been using black bordered, and its hard for the paints to cover it up without a few coats. I havent tried WBed ones yet. I guess I will now. I'd imagine that it doesnt matter since most of the examples are blackbordered, like incinerate, fow, etc.
Do you draw on black border frames, or is it just the white ones that are doable?
You erase the border and maybe some frames with an eraser (or other methods, I found eraser to be the most reliable, time consuming, but reliable, not to mention cheap), and then draw on it.
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You erase the border and maybe some frames with an eraser (or other methods, I found eraser to be the most reliable, time consuming, but reliable, not to mention cheap), and then draw on it.
OH, i thought you just painted over it.
I have, however, found that using an eraser to erase frames is best when I was making p9 proxies for my deck (I tried everything, and as you said, it is time consuming, but you get the best results. It also can make your hand get really tired).
A better way to get blank cards is to get a cheap foil you don't want and peel the art off.
Yea, but that sometimes leaves some sticky stuff left on the card. Also, marker sticks better to an erased card compared to one with the foil ripped off. If you dont feel like erasing, thats def a good way to do it.
I'm working on a willbender right now. I've got the borders erased and the sketch done... just wondering whether I want to pick up colored pencils or markers...
I'll have to look into getting them. The cards look great anyway
EDIT: Are shoupies cheap knockoffs of sharpies or something else? Can you give me a link; I cant seem to find them.
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Haven't used the real thing so I wouldn't know.
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Those cards were the art extends as the whole entire border look awesome,think I'm gonna go troll some sites to see if I can't pick up some.
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well, i once played against an uktabi orangutan w/ the entire card blacked out except for the picture of the monkey's in the background, the card name, the p/t, and the casting cost. but it's black bordered, so the borders were intact.
i would think that as long as you can tell what the card is, and it's a real card that's legal in that format, then it'd be legal to play w/ the alternate art. but i'm not sure. anyone here know an official ruling on it?
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Note, however, that if in coloring the border something happened to the side of the card (which is highly likely in some cases), the card could easily be considered marked if it's not in opaque-backed sleeves. So basically, the full-art alterations are fine (and they would even be legal if you covered up the text box), and those Sliver Queens are probably legal (you'd have to ask the head judge), but some things (like the Fire Bolt, the Mana Vault, and some other things posted above) would likely not be legal.
On a different note, some of those cards look awesome and I wouldn't mind having some of those full-art cards myself. I love the idea.
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That looks awsome!...
I really wouldnt want to attempt that and ruin my FoW though
EDIT: I found some acrylic paints. Should I dilute them or what? I've never done this. I'm not sure, do I just make an outline and wait for a layer to dry before painting over it?
If I had a spare FoW (or spare playset) I'd do that. Or more accurately, I'd pay someone with drawing talent to do it.
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I have just one spare, but I dont trust myself, or know who to get to do it for me
I've been using black bordered, and its hard for the paints to cover it up without a few coats. I havent tried WBed ones yet. I guess I will now. I'd imagine that it doesnt matter since most of the examples are blackbordered, like incinerate, fow, etc.
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I've seen the Edicts before on Ron's site, but I havent seen the Muse Vessles. The one on the right is very awsome.
EDIT: and by the right I meant the left...
You erase the border and maybe some frames with an eraser (or other methods, I found eraser to be the most reliable, time consuming, but reliable, not to mention cheap), and then draw on it.
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OH, i thought you just painted over it.
I have, however, found that using an eraser to erase frames is best when I was making p9 proxies for my deck (I tried everything, and as you said, it is time consuming, but you get the best results. It also can make your hand get really tired).
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Yea, but that sometimes leaves some sticky stuff left on the card. Also, marker sticks better to an erased card compared to one with the foil ripped off. If you dont feel like erasing, thats def a good way to do it.