The recent action of making a select group of people mods of the Gutter was not a preferable action by the majority of us in there. I realize it is forbidden to speak of the Gutter outside of the Gutter, however this is needed as the pandemonium of having all those mods makes it impossible to get anything done.
I request that the decision to make 10 people simultaneously mod a single forum be reversed and a single responsible person be set as moderator of that subforum.
This concern closely parallels the KCW and BB concern, yet it would be advantageous to progress if any whining or moaning about KCW of BB was avoided.
I know nothing of the situation, but I have to agree - 10 mods for one forum seems poor. o_O Can the people of said forbidden land fairly agree on one responsible leader so the other 9 can be dropped to normal? :/
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Until we get a fair and functional system working, I'd be fine with Goblinboy as a mod. In addition, he is currently the leader for the new guttermod selection.
The idea of making the guttermod selection poll end May 3rd means more than a week of pandemonium.
I tried making a real poll, but it was deleted by someone. Probably one of the new (terrible) mods did it.
That is exactly why I broke a gutter rule and posted here as opposed to somewhere one of them can edit/delete my posts.
I confess that with the new MTGS administration, I am hesitant to post anything in the SpeakYourMind forum as many are triggerhappy with infractions and locking up posts due to their own discretion, but I felt it was necessary.
"Oh you know what would be some real hilarity -- afterward we'll just randomly mod a bunch of them for a week! They'll self-destruct and only have themselves to blame for their own downfall!"
"Oh you know what would be some real hilarity -- afterward we'll just randomly mod a bunch of them for a week! They'll self-destruct and only have themselves to blame for their own downfall!"
Cue circlejerk.
I like circlejerks >_>
That aside, I feel that 10 moderators are not suitable for any forum with this level of volume (let alone the smaller amount of that the gutter gets).
And even for soemthing as small as the gutter, kcw was never a power-whore. Just sometimes a little trigger-happy on the bannage, but he didnt delete and **** with the forum, aside from the occassion moving into that huge thread (which is something different).
Now...do you really want the hellhole wall that holds the insane out of forums like this to crumble down? I sure as hell dont.
^^This post sums up alot. If you admins truely belive that, then why did you initiate this ****storm that could very possibly end the gutter that you are thankful to have?
Just to put this into perspective of other members, imagine if the current Rumor Mill staff was all gotten rid of, an outsider came in and gave 10 members moderator powers with no rules on how to use them, and several of the members were notoriously hated members of the Rumor Mill.
Urzassedatives and I both thought it would be humorous if 11 people became gutter mods and we had polls whittling them away. Of course, it would all be for naught because Kingcobweb specifically asked for somebody to become the one mod of that place a long time ago, so whomever was voted in would be overturned in favor of this guy.
Since it is so clearly unfunny, I will assign the one person whom he wanted and get rid of the rest.
Also a little request to people. Unless you actually visit the gutter and haven't been banned or chased out Your idea of the state the gutter is in is only from the outside and thus not fully understanding what happened.
The recent action of making a select group of people mods of the Gutter was not a preferable action by the majority of us in there. I realize it is forbidden to speak of the Gutter outside of the Gutter, however this is needed as the pandemonium of having all those mods makes it impossible to get anything done.
Urzassedatives and I both thought it would be humorous if 11 people became gutter mods and we had polls whittling them away.
It might have had the potential to be funny if, like, some of then hadn't been complete morons.
probably not though.
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them...it was more like alfred and absolution *****ing for hours like psming hags.
I guess if we annoy you now about KCW and BB you'll bring them back too right.
KCW himself was against us doing this, so that is what made us go back on it.
I didn't actually poke into the gutter yet and see what shenanigans these mods pulled...
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The recent action of making a select group of people mods of the Gutter was not a preferable action by the majority of us in there. I realize it is forbidden to speak of the Gutter outside of the Gutter, however this is needed as the pandemonium of having all those mods makes it impossible to get anything done.
This hasn't been enforced, nor a rule since last year, like EM said.
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Urzassedatives and I both thought it would be humorous if 11 people became gutter mods and we had polls whittling them away. Of course, it would all be for naught because Kingcobweb specifically asked for somebody to become the one mod of that place a long time ago, so whomever was voted in would be overturned in favor of this guy.
Since it is so clearly unfunny, I will assign the one person whom he wanted and get rid of the rest.
Oh you, Lessy.^_^
I have no idea why you and seds made me a joke-option... heck, I only lurk when I'm moody...
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I didn't actually poke into the gutter yet and see what shenanigans these mods pulled...
What's the big deal, anyway? I saw nothing, did nothing, and know nothing of this, so what have I missed?
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I thank Woaplanne, in spite of his dislike for KCW, for agreeing that the downfall of the Gutter would be intolerable.
I believe an argument last time was that the Gutterites would have nowhere to go other than the main forums.
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Argh I wasn't there for any of this!
Nor was I.
Was I made temporarily a mod or something?
Yup, apparently.
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I request that the decision to make 10 people simultaneously mod a single forum be reversed and a single responsible person be set as moderator of that subforum.
This concern closely parallels the KCW and BB concern, yet it would be advantageous to progress if any whining or moaning about KCW of BB was avoided.
Thanks,
Absolutionis
"Sufficiently advanced experience is indistinguishable from clairvoyance." -Carsten
"Ah those eyes, those horrible creepy eyes!" -Chaosof99
DCI Level 3 Judge & TO
"I do not consider myself a hero. I know only what the Vec teach:
justice must always be served and corruption must always be opposed."
Go read! I am one of the three authors of Cranial Insertion.
But seriously, if you can't remember "Woapalanne", just call me Eli.
I tried making a real poll, but it was deleted by someone. Probably one of the new (terrible) mods did it.
The idea of making the guttermod selection poll end May 3rd means more than a week of pandemonium.
That is exactly why I broke a gutter rule and posted here as opposed to somewhere one of them can edit/delete my posts.
I confess that with the new MTGS administration, I am hesitant to post anything in the SpeakYourMind forum as many are triggerhappy with infractions and locking up posts due to their own discretion, but I felt it was necessary.
Cue circlejerk.
I like circlejerks >_>
That aside, I feel that 10 moderators are not suitable for any forum with this level of volume (let alone the smaller amount of that the gutter gets).
And even for soemthing as small as the gutter, kcw was never a power-whore. Just sometimes a little trigger-happy on the bannage, but he didnt delete and **** with the forum, aside from the occassion moving into that huge thread (which is something different).
Now...do you really want the hellhole wall that holds the insane out of forums like this to crumble down? I sure as hell dont.
Without the Gutter, this part of the community ceases to exist, so of course they want the Gutter to crumble.
I think it's pretty obvious what they are doing.
^^This post sums up alot. If you admins truely belive that, then why did you initiate this ****storm that could very possibly end the gutter that you are thankful to have?
Since it is so clearly unfunny, I will assign the one person whom he wanted and get rid of the rest.
You know, this isn't a rule.
It might have had the potential to be funny if, like, some of then hadn't been complete morons.
probably not though.
Yeah, we didn't expect them to react in the ways they did.
Sorry for the inconvenience guys.
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them...it was more like alfred and absolution *****ing for hours like psming hags.
I guess if we annoy you now about KCW and BB you'll bring them back too right.
KCW himself was against us doing this, so that is what made us go back on it.
I didn't actually poke into the gutter yet and see what shenanigans these mods pulled...
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Oh you, Lessy.^_^
I have no idea why you and seds made me a joke-option... heck, I only lurk when I'm moody...
What's the big deal, anyway? I saw nothing, did nothing, and know nothing of this, so what have I missed?
I believe an argument last time was that the Gutterites would have nowhere to go other than the main forums.
Nor was I.
Yup, apparently.