The Testing Grounds of this forum seemed to have morphed into something else. I think its good to have a place where the member of the forum can talk without having to 'stay on topic.' It helps to get to better know your fellow forum members, and to continue side talk without spamming up the forums.
However, that is not really what a forum called 'Testing Grounds' should be about. Seems a lot like 'Clans 2'.
I know many parts of the forums, like the Mod lounge and other hidden parts of the forum, have a running 'random posts' thread where people can just talk back and forth about nothing. I think that something like that on a non-hidden part of the forum could replace the 'spam feast' part of Testing Grounds.
Like make an 'Everyone on Salvation Clan' or something.
If I was going to make a thread for that reason I would have made it a few months ago. (like really, the two posts today, you really think that bothered me? If you think I am 'butthurt' go right on thinking it, but if I was GOING to complain about something like THAT I would have long long ago.)
This is more do to two separate PM conversations I had with two other members complaining about what TG is now. It does not really bother me, but after having the two members complain, I started to wonder what others thought, and if it was a problem how to fix it.
I am one of the ones flaming, spamming and I really like it and don't want to stop.
I think I got it, too.
Suspect motivations or no, Soron has stumbled upon a good point. Looking at TG, it's barely providing what it was intended to. Instead, it's not even decent like Clans 2 would imply, it's a bit of a craphole. One that's been discussed by the staff more than once.
Personally, I wouldn't object if we decided to put an end to the 'fun'. I think it sends something of a mixed message. We unintentionally condone spam in Testing Grounds by not putting an end to it and yet punish spam elsewhere.
I don't believe for one second that the forum needs a Spam Thread. Why would you? At least the Grrrr thread in the Mod Lounge has a purpose (that purpose is that of a place to vent/relax/cool down which has proved to be invaluable given how taxing being a mod can be at times). A Spam Thread serves what purpose exactly? A place for people to spam? When we're trying to condition the community not to spam? I don't see the intersect there.
I was not talking about a 'spam thread' more of a 'conversation thread.'
I still think the normal rules of the forum, like double posting and what not, should be observed on that thread. I really mean a 'Clan for Everyone On Salvation' thread, and it should have all the rules of a Clan thread.
I honestly think its FUNNY you guys think I am trying to complain about what happens to ME on the testing grounds. I think we can all agree that what happened was quite mild today, and stopped pretty quick. (if anything I have a good time, why do you think I always respond back time and time again?)
If you guys want to try to comb me for 'Suspect motivations' more power to you.
We all know if people want to find a way to troll other they will no matter what anyway.
I was not talking about a 'spam thread' more of a 'conversation thread.'
I still think the normal rules of the forum, like double posting and what not, should be observed on that thread. I really mean a 'Clan for Everyone On Salvation' thread, and it should have all the rules of a Clan thread.
I honestly think its FUNNY you guys think I am trying to complain about what happens to ME on the testing grounds. I think we can all agree that what happened was quite mild today, and stopped pretty quick. (if anything I have a good time, why do you think I always respond back time and time again?)
If you guys want to try to comb me for 'Suspect motivations' more power to you.
We all know if people want to find a way to troll other they will no matter what anyway.
a 'conversation thread' you say? a thread that updates alot with conversations and such?
wouldn't that leave the MIRC chat kinda....obselete? or redundant?
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Sounds like someone got too butthurt over the months... BUT I agree that Testing grounds is the filth of the site and is worse then any section. To kill it is stupid but the see ONLY your own posts *if its able to be done* Would clean up alot of the filth.
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As one of the higher count posters in the Testing Grounds, I'll stick up for it.
What you are proposing is literally shutting down a section of forum that has only generated a single issue that I can remember... and that was taken care of. (I'm talking about Darjarri and his flame fest)
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Valid points transcend personal issues.
What you are proposing is literally shutting down a section of forum that has only generated a single issue that I can remember... and that was taken care of. (I'm talking about Darjarri and his flame fest)
And I would counter-argue that the constant spam in that section is an issue.
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As one of the higher count posters in the Testing Grounds, I'll stick up for it.
What you are proposing is literally shutting down a section of forum that has only generated a single issue that I can remember... and that was taken care of. (I'm talking about Darjarri and his flame fest)
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Problem is this with testing grounds...
Poster A makes a fool of themselves.
Poster B, C, and D Point this out
Poster E, F, and G Laught at Poster A's Expense
Poster A crys about everyone given him the butthurt
Posters B, C, D, E, F, AND G Point out he brought it on himself for being a moron.
I'm not saying it is without it's problems, but I think the simple answer would be to appoint a mod to get in there and clean up the non-friendly spam. *cough* Psi *cough*
I'm not saying it is without it's problems, but I think the simple answer would be to appoint a mod to get in there and clean up the non-friendly spam. *cough* Psi *cough*
I think it would be as easy as that.
Or we could simply apply the standards set for the rest of the public forum and not allow any spam, "friendly" or otherwise. You know, revert Testing Grounds to what it was intended to be.
Problem is this with testing grounds...
Poster A makes a fool of themselves.
Poster B, C, and D Point this out
Poster E, F, and G Laught at Poster A's Expense
Poster A crys about everyone given him the butthurt
Posters B, C, D, E, F, AND G Point out he brought it on himself for being a moron.
Rinse and Repeat.
Can I be poster B? I'm tired of being Poster A now.
But What about Extendo's? And plus would this ruin the Image holders? I love surfing the old places that people stored Images (Like SB4's place and Krashbot's place that they hold images.)
I just don't think it would be good for the site to loose this privilage.
Not to mention that if people don't spam here, where would they end up spamming? The Clans; card making; Coloseum; and other such places.
Or we could simply apply the standards set for the rest of the public forum and not allow any spam, "friendly" or otherwise. You know, revert Testing Grounds to what it was intended to be.
I'm not saying that isn't a logical idea, but I don't quite see the point.
Take a gander at AI's Extendo, or Psi's. What is wrong with what happens there?
And what about Johm000's extendo? And Shinjutsei's? They are a place for standard and extended players to seek assistance in deck choices and building, without having to sift through pages of thread in the constructed forums.
I honestly don't understand the sudden hatred towards the Testing Grounds... it seems a bit illogical.
Can I be poster B? I'm tired of being Poster A now.
But What about Extendo's? And plus would this ruin the Image holders? I love surfing the old places that people stored Images (Like SB4's place and Krashbot's place that they hold images.)
I just don't think it would be good for the site to loose this privilage.
Not to mention that if people don't spam here, where would they end up spamming? The Clans; card making; Coloseum; and other such places.
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ss_b, look out. You spoke the name, they'll begin to crawl out of it like a hell hole. (Not that a couple of them haven't started already :rolleyes:)
They do so, and it only justifies my point further.
Make it 2 points to ss_b.
They will, just wait.
Seriously though I think MajoraX made a good point when he brought up the Quick Reply Games. There are places on this forum where spam is legit, and not discouraged as long as it is appropriate. I see no reason why the Testing Grounds cannot join them, or is at least acknowledged as such.
Hmh, I find it a bit odd we can call the Testing Grounds the filth of the forum when we still have the Gutter.
Its funny when people like you automaticly name that section when you havent been in there. Little surprised as I had a bet saying it be at least 20 posts before this would be brought up.
Its funny when people like you automaticly name that section when you havent been in there. Little surprised as I had a bet saying it be at least 20 posts before this would be brought up.
Do we need to be there? The name itself implies its actions and "filth".
Its funny when people like you automaticly name that section when you havent been in there. Little surprised as I had a bet saying it be at least 20 posts before this would be brought up.
Yeah, but I have. And I lurked a lot longer than {mikeyG} is going to admit. I read through about 10 pages of ****. It took me a long time. And I'd say they are pretty damn equivalent. The difference is overall attitude and lack of ruling enforcement in the Gutter. Nothing else, really.
Seriously though I think MajoraX made a good point when he brought up the Quick Reply Games. There are places on this forum where spam is legit, and not discouraged as long as it is appropriate. I see no reason why the Testing Grounds cannot join them, or is at least acknowledged as such.
True. The Humor section would also be a shining example.
Hmh, I find it a bit odd we can call the Testing Grounds the filth of the forum when we still have the Gutter.
Lets not talk about something we know nothing about, yeah?
Though I have to agree with some of the points made by mn and petsnake, it is a good place for the images and deck storing, if there is such a big problem then it should be modded or spam threads out-lawed.
Yeah, but I have. And I lurked a lot longer than {mikeyG} is going to admit. I read through about 10 pages of ****. It took me a long time. And I'd say they are pretty damn equivalent. The difference is overall attitude and lack of ruling enforcement in the Gutter. Nothing else, really.
The difference being that its not out in the open for the rest of the forum to see, so by saying its equivilent you are pretty much saying the tgrounds is worse. But this is not about the gutter, lets get away from it before this becomes another soron butthurt gutter thread, k?
However, that is not really what a forum called 'Testing Grounds' should be about. Seems a lot like 'Clans 2'.
I know many parts of the forums, like the Mod lounge and other hidden parts of the forum, have a running 'random posts' thread where people can just talk back and forth about nothing. I think that something like that on a non-hidden part of the forum could replace the 'spam feast' part of Testing Grounds.
Like make an 'Everyone on Salvation Clan' or something.
Your thoughts?
I think I got that right.
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If I was going to make a thread for that reason I would have made it a few months ago. (like really, the two posts today, you really think that bothered me? If you think I am 'butthurt' go right on thinking it, but if I was GOING to complain about something like THAT I would have long long ago.)
This is more do to two separate PM conversations I had with two other members complaining about what TG is now. It does not really bother me, but after having the two members complain, I started to wonder what others thought, and if it was a problem how to fix it.
I think I got it, too.
Suspect motivations or no, Soron has stumbled upon a good point. Looking at TG, it's barely providing what it was intended to. Instead, it's not even decent like Clans 2 would imply, it's a bit of a craphole. One that's been discussed by the staff more than once.
Personally, I wouldn't object if we decided to put an end to the 'fun'. I think it sends something of a mixed message. We unintentionally condone spam in Testing Grounds by not putting an end to it and yet punish spam elsewhere.
I don't believe for one second that the forum needs a Spam Thread. Why would you? At least the Grrrr thread in the Mod Lounge has a purpose (that purpose is that of a place to vent/relax/cool down which has proved to be invaluable given how taxing being a mod can be at times). A Spam Thread serves what purpose exactly? A place for people to spam? When we're trying to condition the community not to spam? I don't see the intersect there.
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People spam, but it's a forum where posts don't count, and where you can test if you want. It's that simple.
The only problem is the flaming that occurs because the mods of that area aren't very active.
Other than that, no problem whatsoever.
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I still think the normal rules of the forum, like double posting and what not, should be observed on that thread. I really mean a 'Clan for Everyone On Salvation' thread, and it should have all the rules of a Clan thread.
I honestly think its FUNNY you guys think I am trying to complain about what happens to ME on the testing grounds. I think we can all agree that what happened was quite mild today, and stopped pretty quick. (if anything I have a good time, why do you think I always respond back time and time again?)
If you guys want to try to comb me for 'Suspect motivations' more power to you.
We all know if people want to find a way to troll other they will no matter what anyway.
a 'conversation thread' you say? a thread that updates alot with conversations and such?
wouldn't that leave the MIRC chat kinda....obselete? or redundant?
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As one of the higher count posters in the Testing Grounds, I'll stick up for it.
What you are proposing is literally shutting down a section of forum that has only generated a single issue that I can remember... and that was taken care of. (I'm talking about Darjarri and his flame fest)
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Valid points transcend personal issues.
And I would counter-argue that the constant spam in that section is an issue.
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@ the ITT: We divided by zero ah SH....
Problem is this with testing grounds...
Poster A makes a fool of themselves.
Poster B, C, and D Point this out
Poster E, F, and G Laught at Poster A's Expense
Poster A crys about everyone given him the butthurt
Posters B, C, D, E, F, AND G Point out he brought it on himself for being a moron.
Rinse and Repeat.
I think it would be as easy as that.
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Shall we rid ourselves of Quick Reply Games as well?
Moreso than it already is?
Maybe we should just make a Testing Grounds overclan. I don't know*.
*Or maybe we should nuke it from space. It's the only way to be sure.
Or we could simply apply the standards set for the rest of the public forum and not allow any spam, "friendly" or otherwise. You know, revert Testing Grounds to what it was intended to be.
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Katingal: Plane of Chains
Can I be poster B? I'm tired of being Poster A now.
But What about Extendo's? And plus would this ruin the Image holders? I love surfing the old places that people stored Images (Like SB4's place and Krashbot's place that they hold images.)
I just don't think it would be good for the site to loose this privilage.
Not to mention that if people don't spam here, where would they end up spamming? The Clans; card making; Coloseum; and other such places.
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I'm not saying that isn't a logical idea, but I don't quite see the point.
Take a gander at AI's Extendo, or Psi's. What is wrong with what happens there?
And what about Johm000's extendo? And Shinjutsei's? They are a place for standard and extended players to seek assistance in deck choices and building, without having to sift through pages of thread in the constructed forums.
I honestly don't understand the sudden hatred towards the Testing Grounds... it seems a bit illogical.
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1 point to ss_b
And 1 point to pet snake.
ss_b, look out. You spoke the name, they'll begin to crawl out of it like a hell hole. (Not that a couple of them haven't started already :rolleyes:)
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Make it 2 points to ss_b.
They will, just wait.
Seriously though I think MajoraX made a good point when he brought up the Quick Reply Games. There are places on this forum where spam is legit, and not discouraged as long as it is appropriate. I see no reason why the Testing Grounds cannot join them, or is at least acknowledged as such.
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Its funny when people like you automaticly name that section when you havent been in there. Little surprised as I had a bet saying it be at least 20 posts before this would be brought up.
Do we need to be there? The name itself implies its actions and "filth".
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Yeah, but I have. And I lurked a lot longer than {mikeyG} is going to admit. I read through about 10 pages of ****. It took me a long time. And I'd say they are pretty damn equivalent. The difference is overall attitude and lack of ruling enforcement in the Gutter. Nothing else, really.
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True. The Humor section would also be a shining example.
* sandsoft_blue ducks and covers.
Lets not talk about something we know nothing about, yeah?
Though I have to agree with some of the points made by mn and petsnake, it is a good place for the images and deck storing, if there is such a big problem then it should be modded or spam threads out-lawed.
The difference being that its not out in the open for the rest of the forum to see, so by saying its equivilent you are pretty much saying the tgrounds is worse. But this is not about the gutter, lets get away from it before this becomes another soron butthurt gutter thread, k?