Was hoping for some insight. I play commander just for fun with one main friend group. I have a green/white angels theme with Karametra as my commander that I’ve been wanting to change up forever now. I’ve wanted to go naya and add Aurelia Gisela Anya etc, I thought Rienne was my answer and I tried building something and asking advice on what I had. The feedback I got was “not enough multicolored” I was still mostly white angels with whatever relevant multicolored angels. So I started forcing multicolored cards and cutting angels and I felt I was getting too far away from what I wanted..now I’m kinda just stuck. I was gonna say screw it go all in on maelstrom archangel but then I realized that isn’t legendary, I thought about atraxa even though I wouldn’t be fully taking advantage of her proliferate because it’s more casual and I want to lean on angels and also I would still be leaving out the red/white angels...any advice?
Funny enough, my Angels deck was Karametra also before M20 was spoiled. I've moved on to Golos, Tireless Pilgrim as the commander now. Sure, he's not an angel, but thematically him being a pilgrim that never rests fits angels as a concept.
It gives all colours to use all angels you could want, he ramps when ETB to give more freedom to cast big angels, and with his ability can free-cast lots of high costing angels. Him being colourless himself makes him good for grabbing utility lands like Volrath's Stronghold and Hall of Heliod's Generosity to bring back key cards during the game, or just mana fixing to cast whatever angels you want.
I even put Karametra herself in the deck with all the dual-land targets she can find. Golos casts with his ability so if she's on the field too, any angel he free-casts will also find a land off Karametra.
There for awhile I was thinking Morophon I just didn’t like how I had to cast him to take advantage of his affects. I think I’m just going to force Rienne for awhile and then get a feel for how it plays, what weaknesses, strengths, etc.. and then do this whole evolving process again in a couple months/years. Hopefully more angels come out and just make it easy on me when that time comes. Thanks for commenting!
My hope for Commander 2019 themes this year is that they give us a 5-colour angel that does something similar to The Ur-Dragon with command zone cost reduction. I was excited for Rienne too until I realized she'd only recur like 4-5 angels at most out of all the ones I wanted to include. Same with Morophon, he only reduces angels by 1-2 at the most and requires being on the field. Golos just happened to be perfect and works kinda like Karametra does, but here's also hoping they print more angel legendary creatures in the years to come too...they definitely have to know people want one that allows all colours to be used lol
I think the WB Innistrad angel will be in one of the precons this year.
So basically, you need 5 colours.
Yep. Most off-color angels are black or red, but you usually can't get to that much mana without green. And blue is just always useful for flyers.
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I honestly think that angel tribal works best in mono white with Avacyn, Bruna or Gisela as commander. Each has a different play style, though. With Avacyn you want to play board wipes... All kind of board wipes. Bruna is similar controlish with less board wipes and playing around her ability to get an angel back to the field and Gisela is aggro/life gain. I'm not sure if Sephara could be a valuable commander. She seems more build around than Avacyn but very similar.
For Boros I would suggest Aurelia or Feather. Aurelia would has an aggro theme mixed up with some possible win the game combos (infinite combat steps) and Feather can be build very effectively with tokens. You can ramp with Path to Exile or cheat some Angels from your deck with some of the red chaos spells.
For Naya there is the new Bab Promo Rienne and Mayael the Anima. I don't feel like Rienne is super good in angels. You want to sacrifice your multicolor creatures for some kind of value and than repeat it with her effect later. There aren't any angels with such effects. Mayael can help out to cheat some angels. There are plenty of 5 atk angels but some of the lower atk angels are interesting, too...
Bant has some Angels and an angel commander with Jenara. She can be a very good commander. She has no synergy with the tribe other than being an Angel herself. She works great with counter strategies.
Mardu has both Kaalias and Tariel. I personal think that Kaalia isn't Angel tribal. Why would you limited yourself to angel tribe when you can have Dragons and Demons too. In addition old Kaalia isn't that funny in a casual game. Tariel can be funny but the random selection hurts a little. She has no synergy with the tribe.
I think you can play Yennett as Esper commander. There are strong Angels with odd Mana cost. Specially with 5 Mana and even in the 7 Mana range with Angel of Despair, Angel of Serenity, Chancellor of the Annex, emeria shepherd... and some more. You can back the angels up with some powerfull spells (obviously with odd Mana cost).
Last Morophon. If you want to run Morophon than you should focus on Angels with lot of Mana symbols in the Mana cost. Maelstrom Archangel or Jenara for example can be cast for free. Lightning Angel for 1 generic etc. He needs to be on the field but that's true for all commander without Eminence. He cost 7 generic and counts as angel so you can reduce the mana cost with tribal support stuff.
My thoughts are to go Jodah if you insist on add all the angels, but Lyra Dawnbringer is my sweet Angel commander. She is pure fun, with an actual benefit to the tribe.
So many people focus on attacks proliferate. It's.4/4 with lifeline, vigilance, death touch and flying for 4.
Granted without red you download some of the best Angela.
Morophon is an option, you could also pick up any of the red/white angels. (Aurelia is a lot of fun (with a free sac out and adarkar valkyrie, you go infinita attack phases)
So many people focus on attacks proliferate. It's.4/4 with lifeline, vigilance, death touch and flying for 4.
Granted without red you download some of the best Angela.
Morophon is an option, you could also pick up any of the red/white angels. (Aurelia is a lot of fun (with a free sac out and adarkar valkyrie, you go infinita attack phases)
My thoughts are to go Jodah if you insist on add all the angels, but Lyra Dawnbringer is my sweet Angel commander. She is pure fun, with an actual benefit to the tribe.
It gives all colours to use all angels you could want, he ramps when ETB to give more freedom to cast big angels, and with his ability can free-cast lots of high costing angels. Him being colourless himself makes him good for grabbing utility lands like Volrath's Stronghold and Hall of Heliod's Generosity to bring back key cards during the game, or just mana fixing to cast whatever angels you want.
I even put Karametra herself in the deck with all the dual-land targets she can find. Golos casts with his ability so if she's on the field too, any angel he free-casts will also find a land off Karametra.
So basically, you need 5 colours.
I would use Jodah. He is 5 colours, flies, and has some utility.
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Yep. Most off-color angels are black or red, but you usually can't get to that much mana without green. And blue is just always useful for flyers.
On phasing:
For Boros I would suggest Aurelia or Feather. Aurelia would has an aggro theme mixed up with some possible win the game combos (infinite combat steps) and Feather can be build very effectively with tokens. You can ramp with Path to Exile or cheat some Angels from your deck with some of the red chaos spells.
For Naya there is the new Bab Promo Rienne and Mayael the Anima. I don't feel like Rienne is super good in angels. You want to sacrifice your multicolor creatures for some kind of value and than repeat it with her effect later. There aren't any angels with such effects. Mayael can help out to cheat some angels. There are plenty of 5 atk angels but some of the lower atk angels are interesting, too...
Bant has some Angels and an angel commander with Jenara. She can be a very good commander. She has no synergy with the tribe other than being an Angel herself. She works great with counter strategies.
Mardu has both Kaalias and Tariel. I personal think that Kaalia isn't Angel tribal. Why would you limited yourself to angel tribe when you can have Dragons and Demons too. In addition old Kaalia isn't that funny in a casual game. Tariel can be funny but the random selection hurts a little. She has no synergy with the tribe.
I think you can play Yennett as Esper commander. There are strong Angels with odd Mana cost. Specially with 5 Mana and even in the 7 Mana range with Angel of Despair, Angel of Serenity, Chancellor of the Annex, emeria shepherd... and some more. You can back the angels up with some powerfull spells (obviously with odd Mana cost).
Last Morophon. If you want to run Morophon than you should focus on Angels with lot of Mana symbols in the Mana cost. Maelstrom Archangel or Jenara for example can be cast for free. Lightning Angel for 1 generic etc. He needs to be on the field but that's true for all commander without Eminence. He cost 7 generic and counts as angel so you can reduce the mana cost with tribal support stuff.
There are a few more options.
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Here is my list.
Granted without red you download some of the best Angela.
Morophon is an option, you could also pick up any of the red/white angels. (Aurelia is a lot of fun (with a free sac out and adarkar valkyrie, you go infinita attack phases)
I think you are talking about Atraxa, Praetors' Voice in your first paragraph?
Lyra Dawnbringer is definitely an option. I really like your deck nice work! Love some of the picks like Light from Within. I would run little Avacyn, Guardian Angel and Angelic Field Marshal other than that gorgeous.