I have a commander deck with riku of two reflections as the commander and lots of mana. it seems interesting to play worldgorger dragon and copy it with riku. After the original worldgorger comes into play and swallows my permanents and then the copy comes in and swallows the original, all my nontoken creatures come back with riku, i can activate riku to copy them all. I feel like this can get very complicated especially with leyline of anticipation, parallel lives, and something like a crystal shard. How would this all go down with parallel lives and worldgorger dragon being copied by riku. What are all the options as far as ordering the stack triggers? What leads down each path? To complicate things further, If I have a crystal shard in play and activate it to return the original worldgorger dragon (or copy) to my hand at some point, cant I use something like leyline of anticipation to make worldgorger dragon a type of counter spell by exiling my oppnonents targets or hiding them from a wrath of god under a worldgorger dragon copy?
I looked into some of this a long time ago. I can give you my cliff notes, but if you want to know every permutation of every ability with copied tokens and what not... You're going to need to put in some elbow grease yourself and work out how the triggers go on the stack.
Even basic cheat sheets can get complicated. See below:
Dragon triggers, Riku Triggers. Place Riku on top. (float mana)
Token ETB triggers (top of original dragon)
Everything removed by token.
Dragon LTB goes on stack (above the exile). Nothing was removed yet, nothing returns yet.
Dragon ETB resolves. Removes token (all you have)
Token LTB triggers, returns eveything untapped.
You have a riku, and a dragon entering the battlefield. They see each other... Go to step 2. Repeat for infinite. See below to stop.
TO STOP
Dragon ETB.
Dragon triggers, Riku Triggers. Place Dragon on top. (float copy mana)
Dragon removes everything.
Use floated mana to pay for copy.
Token Dragon ETB. Removes real dragon.
Dragon LTB triggers, Everything returns untapped. Enjoy mana + dragon token (who is hiding a real dragon, be careful with this).
NOTE: This works with Dual Nature as well, except that ending the loop exiles all your permanents:
Dragon ETB, 2 triggers, Dragon, Copy.
if Dragon ETB trigger is on top, then Dragon Removes DN, then copy resolves, removes Dragon, and you're fine (on one iteration) for a free dragon and everything blnked once.
To loop, put the copy on top.
Copy exiles Dragon and DN. Both trigger. Dragon LTB does nothing, DN Sacs token, returns both. Both trigger again, with a Dragon ETB trigger still on the stack.
For each iteration (placing the copy on top) you get an extra Dragon ETB exile trigger on the stack, that has no LTB to connect to (since it fires during the loop).
When you place the ETB trigger above the copy (leaving you with a dragon token(dragon under) and all your stuff), and you start to resolve the stack of ETB triggers that you have accumulated, the first one will exile the token and all your permanents permanently.
The second will then Exile your Dragon permanently.
The rest should subsequently do nothing, since everything is already permanently exiled
You end with nothing. (and a lot of mana and ETB triggers in the meantime as you infinitely blink your board)
Congrats on finding a use for Worldgorger Dragon that is actually pretty fair yet pretty fun.
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Even basic cheat sheets can get complicated. See below:
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