EDIT: Must just be my work computer as I can see on my phone.
Can you guys please give a very brief explanation on what this site is? Does Salvation still exist through Magic Find? Is Nexus separate?
MTGNexus is the replacement for Salvation that started when Salvation was set to close down. Even though Salvation was bought and is now going to stay running, Nexus was brought online because at that point it'd be a shame not to.
It's largely the same format and community as Salvation, but the staff from here that we know and love are in full control of the operations.
Edit: at the risk of overstepping some boundaries, I'll link you to this.
EDIT: Must just be my work computer as I can see on my phone.
Can you guys please give a very brief explanation on what this site is? Does Salvation still exist through Magic Find? Is Nexus separate?
In addition to the traditional forum that you are used to here, Nexus is going to a literal nexus where community content and magic resources merge into one place.
So we basically have two mtg salvation right now, or something like that?
I haven't fully understood this whole situation...
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So we basically have two mtg salvation right now, or something like that?
I haven't fully understood this whole situation...
Yes and no. We received word that this site was shutting down. We tried everything we could to stop this, to the point of buying the site outright, to no avail. So we did the only thing we could: we started work on a new site, one that we had complete control over. Halfway though the project, we learned that Curse decided to sell the site to another company and it would not be closing after all. For those of us who had already committed to Nexus, the choice was easy because it has the promise of being what we wish we could have done with this site.
So yes there will continue to be this site as well as a new one. I don't see any reason why they cannot coexist because there is no animosity and we all wish each other success. However, most of the current staff here will be departing for Nexus.
The main differences between the websites is that the staff are now able to try all-sorts of different functionality within the MTGNexus website, where as they weren't able to do much at all with Salvation as they didn't actually own it and were limited with what they could try.
MTGNexus is just going to get better and better overtime with new features and functionality, where as Salvation is going to remain stagnate and realistically go backwards, because the staff who were maintaining the website here are now working on Nexus.
Maybe Salvation will get some new staffers to move things forward, but realistically that is unlikely due to the limitations that are already there.
The main differences between the websites is that the staff are now able to try all-sorts of different functionality within the MTGNexus website, where as they weren't able to do much at all with Salvation as they didn't actually own it and were limited with what they could try.
MTGNexus is just going to get better and better overtime with new features and functionality, where as Salvation is going to remain stagnate and realistically go backwards, because the staff who were maintaining the website here are now working on Nexus.
Maybe Salvation will get some new staffers to move things forward, but realistically that is unlikely due to the limitations that are already there.
MTGNexus really is a gift to Magic enthusiasts.
While I can't speculate as to the future of salvation, I for one am really happy with the aesthetics, functionality and general vibe of Nexus. Feyd and Cryo and the rest of the gang have been nothing short of incredibly accommodating in giving us the features we've requested, and porting over my threads from salvation has been rewarding - I won't say it's been completely easy, because the coding is slightly different (there's a TON of better coding options on Nexus), but the end results have been really great. For someone who isn't great at coding and has not a lick of graphic experience, my threads have ported over nicely and look streets ahead of how they looked here.
I'd really recommend giving it a look, so far it's been a really great upgrade. For myself I'll be spending most of my time on Nexus moving forward - my threads will still be here but I won't update them on salvation any further.
Having both sites feels a bit awkward, since I expected MTGS to be closing down. I joined Nexus and really like it though. I'll contribute to both sites and hopefully one of them sticks. Any idea on which site WOTC or the EDH committee will frequent? I like using these communities to voice opinions in the hopes someone is reading.
Having both sites feels a bit awkward, since I expected MTGS to be closing down. I joined Nexus and really like it though. I'll contribute to both sites and hopefully one of them sticks. Any idea on which site WOTC or the EDH committee will frequent? I like using these communities to voice opinions in the hopes someone is reading.
I can't speak with any authority, but I have spoken directly to members of both WotC and the Rules Committee, and they expressed interest. I fully expect at the minimum Sheldon and quite possibly papa funk will register to the new site, as they have publicly said that they are always willing to visit sites that have good and healthy discussion (as opposed to getting ***** on by the users). And I am fully committed to maintaining the same welcoming environment that I spent years cultivating here.
Not only is it more convenient to stay, but I found the font and UI of Nexus to be miserable on PC, and only tolerable on mobile. Some of the people who made this site a good location are following the staff to Nexus, unfortunately. But given the attitude of the new owners so far, I am holding out hope that MTGS will have more continued support and possibly better features than Nexus. It could be that Nexus looks terrible because it's still in development, and the aesthetic nightmare will change. But currently I'm staying with the devils that I know.
So we basically have two mtg salvation right now, or something like that?
I haven't fully understood this whole situation...
Its more than just a second site. To give some back story, MTGSalvation has recieved almost zero development time in the last year and a half. A year and a half ago, we were given the deckbuilder which we had expected to point out the bugs in it quickly and have them be fixed. I think we got like one or two days of developers reviewing and a few minor bugs were fixed in it and then we received no further assistance from development other than to make sure that the site was still up and functioning since then.
Before the deckbuilder, it was probably a few years before that that we recieved significant developer assistance on the site and it was probably mobile which was the previous attention we got.
In a nutshell, we have not received much for attention from development since curse bought and transitioned the site which has been something like.... 5 years now I would guess. We had a HUGE backlog of requests of which a lot of the fixes were small cosmetic things that could have been quickly fixed. The upside of nexus is that essentially Feyd_Ruin (who was our previous tech) wrote the whole site and is updating and fixing things as he goes. The current product we have now can be requested to be improved and I believe Feyd will actually continue to improve the product there. MTGSalvation is like a half sunken ship on the other regards. Its unsure as to what kind of assistance it will have from the new owner but the backlog of requests is kind of large at this point.
I can't even tell you how often I have had to say, that's a great idea, we can add it to the stack but for the foreseeable future we don't know when we will get dev time next.
Not only is it more convenient to stay, but I found the font and UI of Nexus to be miserable on PC, and only tolerable on mobile. Some of the people who made this site a good location are following the staff to Nexus, unfortunately. But given the attitude of the new owners so far, I am holding out hope that MTGS will have more continued support and possibly better features than Nexus. It could be that Nexus looks terrible because it's still in development, and the aesthetic nightmare will change. But currently I'm staying with the devils that I know.
It has been a solid year that I only get alerts on 1/10 things that are supposed to generate alerts. I made a complaint and have heard nothing since.
I am looking forward to the new site and to having the Mods also be the people responsible for making the site all we want it to be.
If you have issues with the font and the UI maybe you can specifically mention the issues and they can work on them. I am also not huge on the font and would like to be able to change it to something else.
Not only is it more convenient to stay, but I found the font and UI of Nexus to be miserable on PC, and only tolerable on mobile.
I dislike the fonts so much that it will keep me using both of these sites for now rather than switching over completely. And in fact, if not for the community, I wouldn't use MTGNexus at all solely on the font and UI. I have also shared this opinion over at Nexus.
However, I'm excited and hopeful as Nexus continues to improve
If you already have an account here you just register there? There's nothing special you have to do to verify?
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If you already have an account here you just register there? There's nothing special you have to do to verify?
Not quite sure what your asking. These two sites are not linked in any way, so names aren't saved, if that's what you're asking. But there is no special process for signing up, just the basic make a user name and verify your email.
Hey there, benjameenbear, here. I was a member of the Primer Committee and a Moderator on MTGSal for quite a while and I was responsible for the creation of the cEDH forums here on this site. I've been an active member on this site since 2010/2011 under the gamertag benjameen790 or benjameenbear. I've been playing this format since it was called Elder Dragon Highlander and have been almost exclusively a Commander player since I discovered the format.
With the formal launch of MTGNexus, a project started by some of the more influential Moderators and Administrators of MTGSalvation, I want to share something really important with you.
You, my friend, are MASSIVELY missing out.
The changes to MTGSalvation that have occurred since the beginning of this year and with the sudden closing announcement that came earlier this year, my confidence in this site has been shaken. I remember the gut wrenching sadness I felt when the announcement of MTGSalvation's closure posted on the banner. I'd been an active part of this community since 2014, and the time and energy I had invested in writing Primers, helping fellow MTGSal users, and the support I had received from other users has shaped my MTG skillset in profound ways, making me better.
There was a true sense of despondency that came over me when I processed the realization that this site, of which I'd spent so much of my life frequenting and contributing to, was dying.
And there was nothing I could do to save it.
The decision was being made way over my head and the only thing I could do was sit by its bedside and stoically watch its last gasps.
To tell you a little bit of my story, and give context as to why I love MTGSalvation so much and why its closure was so devastating to me, I need to take you back to my personal hell, one I have struggled with for years, and one that I couldn't have gotten out of without MTGSalvation.
It was 2010, and I was vomiting outside of my apartment for the second time that night.
And yet I still wanted to go back inside and taste that vodka.
Burned to taste it again, actually.
Yes, I was an alcoholic at the ripe old age of 20.
And the only thing that got me through the addiction recovery process was Magic: The Gathering and this site.
You see, like many of you, I had come to love Commander as a format and I had gotten that bug to optimize my decklists and check out new ideas, constantly finding new strategies, combos, playstyles, anything that would help me improve and win more Commander games. I was part of an active playgroup that met 2-3 times per week to play Commander and I was obsessed with trying to be the best player in that playgroup. This desire was so powerful that it led me to scour the internet for "EDH" content. When I first discovered MTGSalvation, I thought I had stumbled on a treasure trove and immediately dived in. I lurked on the site for years before finally making the commitment.
And I discovered a community that felt the same way I did.
I had found a community that I could emotionally connect with, one that wanted the same things I did.
And this connection was what finally lifted me out of my head and the environment I was drowning in. Posting on MTGSalvation and checking what people had said to my posts and threads became more important than finding the next drink. Taking the suggestions and strategies I was learning on MTGSalvation and implementing them in my games eclipsed the desire to taste alcohol.
I still went through craving and withdrawal hell, but I could NOT have done it without the medium that was MTGSalvation, MTG, and my playgroup.
MTGSalvation was a community that engaged my creativity, helped me to overcome what could have been a deadly addiction, and has provided a form of entertainment and sense of importance that I have cherished over the years. It helped me to feel part of something greater than myself, a chance to participate, help, and encourage other players.
But in recent months, I've found this feeling regarding MTGSalvation fading. Requests that I've made as a Moderator have not been recognized or acted on. Other Moderators and Admins had a pessimistic attitude about the wellbeing and direction of the site as a whole. The sudden and completely paralyzing announcement of MTGSal's closing shocked me, and my faith in the site has been shaken irreversibly.
Did you notice how the site just simply stopped working on 7/11/2019? How you couldn't access the forums for nearly the whole day? When was the last content rich article published on MTGSal? If you've had ideas on how to improve the MTGSal experience, have you received any feedback beyond the "we'll request it from our developer team"?
I'm sorry to inform you that this site has stagnated, and I don't see any signs of it improving in the near future.
But, you no longer need to miss out, wishing you had a better experience to belong to. There is a new site that has been developed by the most influential and tech savvy segment of the MTGSal staff, and they (along with myself) have committed ourselves wholeheartedly to this new site.
And we want you to be a part of our project and share the passion and dedication that has made you a member or lurker of MTGSalvation!
The differences between MTGNexus and MTGSalvation are notable and very visible to me, and I'll try and communicate them to you, dear reader, so that you can make an informed decision.
First, MTGNexus is owned and hosted as its own domain. While this may seem inconsequential to you, this means that the site itself is able to be accessed by most computers, whether or not they're part of a corporate network or your personal laptop. This means that you WILL be able to access MTGNexus regardless of where you are or what type of network you're interfacing with. This makes your involvement with the MTGNexus community much more reliable and intuitive, helping you to stay engaged and participatory throughout the course of a day. Look, when you post something you want to see the feedback on it or be able to quickly look up a decklist while you're on your lunchbreak at work. With MTGNexus being its own domain, it is much more likely that you will be able to stay active and involved with the community and friends that you've made on MTGNexus while staying up to date with your favorite decklists/threads.
The primary users that made MTGSalvation as a site function have already left MTGSal. Feyd_Ruin, the chief CTO-like guy on MTGSal, is now the principal operator and owner of MTGNexus, and he doesn't have the time to support two different sites. Who will be doing the tech stuff and troubleshooting for MTGSalvation now that he's gone? There has been no formal announcement, posts, or threads as to the direction of MTGSalvation since its 11th hour purchase and I am currently unaware of how and who is going to run this site. Do you really want to stay with MTGSal as it rides the waves of tech developments and difficulties that are sure to come with the loss of Feyd-Ruin's massive experience and knowledge?
Cryogen, one of the Moderators here who has personally built real relationships with the founders of Commander and has a real, working relationship with Sheldon Menery himself (sorry if I misspelled your last name, Sheldon!) is now an Administrator of MTGNexus and has already brought Sheldon on board with MTGNexus. Who is going to step into cryogen's role now and make MTGSalvation a legitimate forum of discussion for the RC and CAG? I don't know, and that uncertainty is deeply troubling for me and should be for you too.
Airithne, one of the hardest working Mods on the site with an awesome personality and dedication for Commander that is irrefutable, is a key member of MTGNexus and will be personally overseeing many of the changes and updates that you have probably WISHED MTGSalvation would do. Wildfire, another member and Moderator from MTGSAl, has also become a key member of MTGNexus and is using her influence to make MTGNexus the premier Commander content site on the internet. The majority of the Commander Primer Committee, including the diligent toctheyounger, darrenhabib, Guerte, Kelzam, and others, have already made the jump to MTGNexus and have no desire to come back and actively participate on MTGSalvation. Who will be maintaining the Commander Primers that you enjoy reading and reviewing?
In short, who is going to be stepping up to fill the gaping hole of talent that has now formed MTGNexus? There has been no announcement, and I'm not certain one will be coming any time soon. Feel free to "stay with the devil [you] know" but I'd rather trust the people I DO know that you may not be aware of as being the critical volunteers that have made MTGSalvation as a site function.
The coding features and customization available on MTGNexus are, quite simply, leaps and bounds better than what is currently offered on MTGSalvation. Stop reading this message and check out the following Primers:
Kelzam's Ayli Primer, found here.
Darrenhabib's Will & Rowan Kenrith Primer, found here.
Rumpy5897's Feather, the Redeemed Primer, found here.
MTGNexus has a degree of customization and coding flexibility that is superb and, in my opinion, superior to what MTGSal has available to it. Are you looking to be a legit content creator for MTG? I believe that Nexus has the best tools available for your content and ideas and I'm excited to invite you to see what you can do on the beautiful, new platform. With Feyd-Ruin's expertise and personal commitment to the site, I can confidently assure you that the site will continue to get better and better until it becomes THE destination for any type of MTG focused content or MTG aggregation.
But most importantly, our community has already proven to be supportive and inclusive of its current members. And we want you to be a part of MTGNexus and make it your MTG based home on the internet, the spot where the best of the best reside. Let your voice be known and you could even have an impact in the way that MTGNexus develops as a site! We can't grow MTGNexus into the best MTG site in the world without your participation and support.
I'm sure it's legal to advertise new forums in this forum, but it still feels kind of wrong. You could've advertise this on EDHREC, which I'm sure many of us visit anyway, at least then it would be a neutral ground for people to pick and decide. Posting it here, alongside with a negative outlook, you're actively contributing to the "last gasp" by luring people away, while benefiting your new home.
I’m registered to both as the same name. I like both but my main concern and determination of where I’ll go most of the time is very dependent on participation. I’ll try to contribute to both either way but I’m curious to see what everyone else does because in honesty I’m the type of person that follows everyone else. I really wanna use mtgnexus but if I see little or no forums with little or no responses I’ll probably not be around there that much. I know it sounds bad but bottom line I’ve always been a follower and not a leader so pretty much following where everyone else goes and the majority of my posts is where everyone else will post and create lots of forums.
I'm sure it's legal to advertise new forums in this forum, but it still feels kind of wrong. You could've advertise this on EDHREC, which I'm sure many of us visit anyway, at least then it would be a neutral ground for people to pick and decide. Posting it here, alongside with a negative outlook, you're actively contributing to the "last gasp" by luring people away, while benefiting your new home.
Technically promoting Nexus goes against the rules of the site. The issue is in part that almost the entire moderator team is transitioning off. The fact that we were told that the site would be entirely shut down the moderator team started making plans to replace salvation. The announcement that was made came well after Feyd our technician started making nexus well after we had ourselves attempted to purchase salvation to keep it going and were told that would not be possible.
Its actually kind of *****ty to tell everyone that the site is closing, make alternative plans, and then say its all good its going to continue. The point being that they have created a fractured community with how this was handled. I am not on staff anymore and am not in the loop but the last I heard the new owner had not really done much communication with the staff about plans and how to continue and replace the staff that were leaving.
So, yes technically everything about this thread should not be allowed but the staff that would normally stop this from happening have all been burned essentially with this transition. I have no idea who plans to still be on site working as a staff member but I have already seen several step away. If you look at the commander forums you will see that only two of five moderators are still listed. I believe wildfire is an admin on nexus as well so I don't know what his plans are but I think bob had intended to remain here (not really sure though).
So, yes its kind of *****ty but lots of people feel burned on this and the advantage of moving is mostly that Feyd (who was our technician here for the last several years) is essentially the sole owner of the new site and he is making huge changes and improvements all the time where salvation has been limping along for years now from a development standpoint.
I have no idea what the new owner's plans are. Maybe he will be amazing. I haven't had any interactions with him in several years at this point though and I think a lot of the staff are sort of fed up with the unknown.
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EDIT: Must just be my work computer as I can see on my phone.
Can you guys please give a very brief explanation on what this site is? Does Salvation still exist through Magic Find? Is Nexus separate?
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MTGNexus is the replacement for Salvation that started when Salvation was set to close down. Even though Salvation was bought and is now going to stay running, Nexus was brought online because at that point it'd be a shame not to.
It's largely the same format and community as Salvation, but the staff from here that we know and love are in full control of the operations.
Edit: at the risk of overstepping some boundaries, I'll link you to this.
In addition to the traditional forum that you are used to here, Nexus is going to a literal nexus where community content and magic resources merge into one place.
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I haven't fully understood this whole situation...
Yes and no. We received word that this site was shutting down. We tried everything we could to stop this, to the point of buying the site outright, to no avail. So we did the only thing we could: we started work on a new site, one that we had complete control over. Halfway though the project, we learned that Curse decided to sell the site to another company and it would not be closing after all. For those of us who had already committed to Nexus, the choice was easy because it has the promise of being what we wish we could have done with this site.
So yes there will continue to be this site as well as a new one. I don't see any reason why they cannot coexist because there is no animosity and we all wish each other success. However, most of the current staff here will be departing for Nexus.
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MTGNexus is just going to get better and better overtime with new features and functionality, where as Salvation is going to remain stagnate and realistically go backwards, because the staff who were maintaining the website here are now working on Nexus.
Maybe Salvation will get some new staffers to move things forward, but realistically that is unlikely due to the limitations that are already there.
MTGNexus really is a gift to Magic enthusiasts.
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While I can't speculate as to the future of salvation, I for one am really happy with the aesthetics, functionality and general vibe of Nexus. Feyd and Cryo and the rest of the gang have been nothing short of incredibly accommodating in giving us the features we've requested, and porting over my threads from salvation has been rewarding - I won't say it's been completely easy, because the coding is slightly different (there's a TON of better coding options on Nexus), but the end results have been really great. For someone who isn't great at coding and has not a lick of graphic experience, my threads have ported over nicely and look streets ahead of how they looked here.
I'd really recommend giving it a look, so far it's been a really great upgrade. For myself I'll be spending most of my time on Nexus moving forward - my threads will still be here but I won't update them on salvation any further.
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Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
will have to get into the habit of checking it
Will try to post any new threads there for sure.
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I can't speak with any authority, but I have spoken directly to members of both WotC and the Rules Committee, and they expressed interest. I fully expect at the minimum Sheldon and quite possibly papa funk will register to the new site, as they have publicly said that they are always willing to visit sites that have good and healthy discussion (as opposed to getting ***** on by the users). And I am fully committed to maintaining the same welcoming environment that I spent years cultivating here.
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Its more than just a second site. To give some back story, MTGSalvation has recieved almost zero development time in the last year and a half. A year and a half ago, we were given the deckbuilder which we had expected to point out the bugs in it quickly and have them be fixed. I think we got like one or two days of developers reviewing and a few minor bugs were fixed in it and then we received no further assistance from development other than to make sure that the site was still up and functioning since then.
Before the deckbuilder, it was probably a few years before that that we recieved significant developer assistance on the site and it was probably mobile which was the previous attention we got.
In a nutshell, we have not received much for attention from development since curse bought and transitioned the site which has been something like.... 5 years now I would guess. We had a HUGE backlog of requests of which a lot of the fixes were small cosmetic things that could have been quickly fixed. The upside of nexus is that essentially Feyd_Ruin (who was our previous tech) wrote the whole site and is updating and fixing things as he goes. The current product we have now can be requested to be improved and I believe Feyd will actually continue to improve the product there. MTGSalvation is like a half sunken ship on the other regards. Its unsure as to what kind of assistance it will have from the new owner but the backlog of requests is kind of large at this point.
I can't even tell you how often I have had to say, that's a great idea, we can add it to the stack but for the foreseeable future we don't know when we will get dev time next.
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It has been a solid year that I only get alerts on 1/10 things that are supposed to generate alerts. I made a complaint and have heard nothing since.
I am looking forward to the new site and to having the Mods also be the people responsible for making the site all we want it to be.
If you have issues with the font and the UI maybe you can specifically mention the issues and they can work on them. I am also not huge on the font and would like to be able to change it to something else.
8.RG Green Devotion Ramp/Combo 9.UR Draw Triggers 10.WUR Group stalling 11.WUR Voltron Spellslinger 12.WB Sacrificial Shenanigans
13.BR Creatureless Panharmonicon 14.BR Pingers and Eldrazi 15.URG Untapped Cascading
16.Reyhan, last of the Abzan's WUBG +1/+1 Counter Craziness 17.WUBRG Dragons aka Why did I make this?
Building: The Gitrog Monster lands, Glissa the Traitor stax, Muldrotha, the Gravetide Planeswalker Combo, Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa Clues, and Tribal Scarecrow Planeswalkers
However, I'm excited and hopeful as Nexus continues to improve
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Step 1: Identify the problem. What aspect of Magic don't you like? Step 2: Find out how others deal with the problem. How do players deal with this aspect of the game when they run into it? Step 3: Do what those players do. Step 4: No more problem. Bonus: You are now better at Magic. Enjoy those extra wins!
There might be an email verification process I can't remember but its not associated with any other sites so signing up is quite easy.
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Not quite sure what your asking. These two sites are not linked in any way, so names aren't saved, if that's what you're asking. But there is no special process for signing up, just the basic make a user name and verify your email.
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Resources:Commander Rulings FAQ | Commander Deckbuilding Guide
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With the formal launch of MTGNexus, a project started by some of the more influential Moderators and Administrators of MTGSalvation, I want to share something really important with you.
The changes to MTGSalvation that have occurred since the beginning of this year and with the sudden closing announcement that came earlier this year, my confidence in this site has been shaken. I remember the gut wrenching sadness I felt when the announcement of MTGSalvation's closure posted on the banner. I'd been an active part of this community since 2014, and the time and energy I had invested in writing Primers, helping fellow MTGSal users, and the support I had received from other users has shaped my MTG skillset in profound ways, making me better.
There was a true sense of despondency that came over me when I processed the realization that this site, of which I'd spent so much of my life frequenting and contributing to, was dying.
And there was nothing I could do to save it.
The decision was being made way over my head and the only thing I could do was sit by its bedside and stoically watch its last gasps.
To tell you a little bit of my story, and give context as to why I love MTGSalvation so much and why its closure was so devastating to me, I need to take you back to my personal hell, one I have struggled with for years, and one that I couldn't have gotten out of without MTGSalvation.
It was 2010, and I was vomiting outside of my apartment for the second time that night.
And yet I still wanted to go back inside and taste that vodka.
Burned to taste it again, actually.
Yes, I was an alcoholic at the ripe old age of 20.
And the only thing that got me through the addiction recovery process was Magic: The Gathering and this site.
You see, like many of you, I had come to love Commander as a format and I had gotten that bug to optimize my decklists and check out new ideas, constantly finding new strategies, combos, playstyles, anything that would help me improve and win more Commander games. I was part of an active playgroup that met 2-3 times per week to play Commander and I was obsessed with trying to be the best player in that playgroup. This desire was so powerful that it led me to scour the internet for "EDH" content. When I first discovered MTGSalvation, I thought I had stumbled on a treasure trove and immediately dived in. I lurked on the site for years before finally making the commitment.
And I discovered a community that felt the same way I did.
I had found a community that I could emotionally connect with, one that wanted the same things I did.
And this connection was what finally lifted me out of my head and the environment I was drowning in. Posting on MTGSalvation and checking what people had said to my posts and threads became more important than finding the next drink. Taking the suggestions and strategies I was learning on MTGSalvation and implementing them in my games eclipsed the desire to taste alcohol.
I still went through craving and withdrawal hell, but I could NOT have done it without the medium that was MTGSalvation, MTG, and my playgroup.
MTGSalvation was a community that engaged my creativity, helped me to overcome what could have been a deadly addiction, and has provided a form of entertainment and sense of importance that I have cherished over the years. It helped me to feel part of something greater than myself, a chance to participate, help, and encourage other players.
But in recent months, I've found this feeling regarding MTGSalvation fading. Requests that I've made as a Moderator have not been recognized or acted on. Other Moderators and Admins had a pessimistic attitude about the wellbeing and direction of the site as a whole. The sudden and completely paralyzing announcement of MTGSal's closing shocked me, and my faith in the site has been shaken irreversibly.
Did you notice how the site just simply stopped working on 7/11/2019? How you couldn't access the forums for nearly the whole day? When was the last content rich article published on MTGSal? If you've had ideas on how to improve the MTGSal experience, have you received any feedback beyond the "we'll request it from our developer team"?
I'm sorry to inform you that this site has stagnated, and I don't see any signs of it improving in the near future.
But, you no longer need to miss out, wishing you had a better experience to belong to. There is a new site that has been developed by the most influential and tech savvy segment of the MTGSal staff, and they (along with myself) have committed ourselves wholeheartedly to this new site.
And we want you to be a part of our project and share the passion and dedication that has made you a member or lurker of MTGSalvation!
Come and Join Our Home at MTGNexus!
The differences between MTGNexus and MTGSalvation are notable and very visible to me, and I'll try and communicate them to you, dear reader, so that you can make an informed decision.
First, MTGNexus is owned and hosted as its own domain. While this may seem inconsequential to you, this means that the site itself is able to be accessed by most computers, whether or not they're part of a corporate network or your personal laptop. This means that you WILL be able to access MTGNexus regardless of where you are or what type of network you're interfacing with. This makes your involvement with the MTGNexus community much more reliable and intuitive, helping you to stay engaged and participatory throughout the course of a day. Look, when you post something you want to see the feedback on it or be able to quickly look up a decklist while you're on your lunchbreak at work. With MTGNexus being its own domain, it is much more likely that you will be able to stay active and involved with the community and friends that you've made on MTGNexus while staying up to date with your favorite decklists/threads.
The primary users that made MTGSalvation as a site function have already left MTGSal. Feyd_Ruin, the chief CTO-like guy on MTGSal, is now the principal operator and owner of MTGNexus, and he doesn't have the time to support two different sites. Who will be doing the tech stuff and troubleshooting for MTGSalvation now that he's gone? There has been no formal announcement, posts, or threads as to the direction of MTGSalvation since its 11th hour purchase and I am currently unaware of how and who is going to run this site. Do you really want to stay with MTGSal as it rides the waves of tech developments and difficulties that are sure to come with the loss of Feyd-Ruin's massive experience and knowledge?
Cryogen, one of the Moderators here who has personally built real relationships with the founders of Commander and has a real, working relationship with Sheldon Menery himself (sorry if I misspelled your last name, Sheldon!) is now an Administrator of MTGNexus and has already brought Sheldon on board with MTGNexus. Who is going to step into cryogen's role now and make MTGSalvation a legitimate forum of discussion for the RC and CAG? I don't know, and that uncertainty is deeply troubling for me and should be for you too.
Airithne, one of the hardest working Mods on the site with an awesome personality and dedication for Commander that is irrefutable, is a key member of MTGNexus and will be personally overseeing many of the changes and updates that you have probably WISHED MTGSalvation would do. Wildfire, another member and Moderator from MTGSAl, has also become a key member of MTGNexus and is using her influence to make MTGNexus the premier Commander content site on the internet. The majority of the Commander Primer Committee, including the diligent toctheyounger, darrenhabib, Guerte, Kelzam, and others, have already made the jump to MTGNexus and have no desire to come back and actively participate on MTGSalvation. Who will be maintaining the Commander Primers that you enjoy reading and reviewing?
In short, who is going to be stepping up to fill the gaping hole of talent that has now formed MTGNexus? There has been no announcement, and I'm not certain one will be coming any time soon. Feel free to "stay with the devil [you] know" but I'd rather trust the people I DO know that you may not be aware of as being the critical volunteers that have made MTGSalvation as a site function.
The coding features and customization available on MTGNexus are, quite simply, leaps and bounds better than what is currently offered on MTGSalvation. Stop reading this message and check out the following Primers:
Kelzam's Ayli Primer, found here.
Darrenhabib's Will & Rowan Kenrith Primer, found here.
Rumpy5897's Feather, the Redeemed Primer, found here.
MTGNexus has a degree of customization and coding flexibility that is superb and, in my opinion, superior to what MTGSal has available to it. Are you looking to be a legit content creator for MTG? I believe that Nexus has the best tools available for your content and ideas and I'm excited to invite you to see what you can do on the beautiful, new platform. With Feyd-Ruin's expertise and personal commitment to the site, I can confidently assure you that the site will continue to get better and better until it becomes THE destination for any type of MTG focused content or MTG aggregation.
But most importantly, our community has already proven to be supportive and inclusive of its current members. And we want you to be a part of MTGNexus and make it your MTG based home on the internet, the spot where the best of the best reside. Let your voice be known and you could even have an impact in the way that MTGNexus develops as a site! We can't grow MTGNexus into the best MTG site in the world without your participation and support.
So Come and Join Our Home at MTGNexus and Help Shape the New MTG Destination site!
UB Dralnu, Lich Lord
RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Technically promoting Nexus goes against the rules of the site. The issue is in part that almost the entire moderator team is transitioning off. The fact that we were told that the site would be entirely shut down the moderator team started making plans to replace salvation. The announcement that was made came well after Feyd our technician started making nexus well after we had ourselves attempted to purchase salvation to keep it going and were told that would not be possible.
Its actually kind of *****ty to tell everyone that the site is closing, make alternative plans, and then say its all good its going to continue. The point being that they have created a fractured community with how this was handled. I am not on staff anymore and am not in the loop but the last I heard the new owner had not really done much communication with the staff about plans and how to continue and replace the staff that were leaving.
So, yes technically everything about this thread should not be allowed but the staff that would normally stop this from happening have all been burned essentially with this transition. I have no idea who plans to still be on site working as a staff member but I have already seen several step away. If you look at the commander forums you will see that only two of five moderators are still listed. I believe wildfire is an admin on nexus as well so I don't know what his plans are but I think bob had intended to remain here (not really sure though).
So, yes its kind of *****ty but lots of people feel burned on this and the advantage of moving is mostly that Feyd (who was our technician here for the last several years) is essentially the sole owner of the new site and he is making huge changes and improvements all the time where salvation has been limping along for years now from a development standpoint.
I have no idea what the new owner's plans are. Maybe he will be amazing. I haven't had any interactions with him in several years at this point though and I think a lot of the staff are sort of fed up with the unknown.
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