Here's the issue, I want to make space for 2 more Planeswalker in my Sharuum Stax deck which is located on signature, but I am having problems deciding on what to take out.
I know what the deck is missing, and that is a token producer that doesn't require mana and more control permanents with little to no investment. I want to Create space for 2 out of 3 of these planeswalker; Elspeth, Knight Errant, Liliana of the Veil, and Sorrin, Lord of Innistrad.
I would like help on what to cut for them since they will create small increaments of card advantage. Also, budget isn't an issue since I have all three in my collection.
Sorrin and Liliana. You're never going to use espelth +3+3 and her ultimate is never going to win or be relevent. When compared to the eddict removal and group discard (its stax after all) i think shes better than Elspeth. Sorin has a more impactful ultimate compared to Lil so i'd pick him over Elespeth to. Thats my feeling...it's not all in tokens like you were after but a bit of diversity and disruption seems pretty good.
As for cuts your deck is pretty tight but Magister Sphinx seems a much needed win con in you build bit i do agree with
-Desolation Angel
- Scrabbling Claws ? It appears to be the inferior gravehate and how much do you need?
- Also on lands High Market i've found better than Miren in evey aspect. How important is the life gain? I've not played a deck that had less than 7 creatures rather i have but potential life gain was never an issue.
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Interesting cuts, but everything has it purpose. The 1 cmc artifacts are used to sacrifice to Smokestack and they can be recur through Salvation Station which is a key recursion engine in the deck.
I do agree on Desolation Angel, she doesn't get there anymore. If I do get to play her, she dies immediately via spot removal. :).
I will be replacing her with a various Aramageddon effect, most likely Cataclysm or more enchantments.
I already made space for Liliana of the Veil.
Time to make space for Sorrin.
no love for vensers PW card? doubling up on sharuum and magister sphinx, and resetting mana sources or other value cards is really good. not to mention his ultimate should be easy to get to in a stax deck and makes the lock so much more insane.
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—Norin the Wary
Hasn't the angel done her job by the time she hits the board? o.O
Anyway, I'd go with Elspeth Tirel since she makes three dudes at once. Her and Lili would be nice.
Desolation Angle would do her job if I ever get the opportunity to cast her more. For the most part, she was just a dead draw and "drew" hate, but just playing with my playgroup, the usual suspects already have preset targets before the game has even started.
After some testing with Lilian of the Veil; she is amazing with board position. Tonight's games with her on the board was decided by her +1 and ultimate ability.
- What I had on the board after many Wraths and stabilizing.
Liliana of the Veil (of course)
Zur, the Enchanter (General for the night)
Trinsiphere
Mana Vortex
Bitterblossom
Copy Enchantment (Copy of Bitterblossom)
Crucible of Worlds
Phyrexian Arena
Necropotence
Sun Titan
Sculpting Steel (Copy of Skullclamp)
Various mana rocks
7 various lands
Personally, I love Knight-Errant. Her Ultimate, if you wanted to have the discussion of which PW has the best, is easily the most devastating to your opponents. She generates tokens, and only goes up. Her ultimate is a game breaker and demands that she be answered causing your opponents to use more of their resources. In a control deck, as it seems you are playing, the goal is to win through attrition is it not?
Additionally, I like Vess better than Veil for her tutor, but as far as a control aspect, the sac ability is nice. I don't like discarding my own cards which is why Vess has the strictly better up ability. So Veil is the better control option.
Sorin is quite underwhelming without a token strategy. He makes a stupid 1/1 vampire that doesn't even fly, and his ultimate, although good, doesn't nearly leave the lasting impact that Knight-Errant does. He is the new PW on the block and, thus, is understandably sensationalized and flashy, but I just haven't been sold on him for anything outside of tokens (e.g. Ghave or Teysa).
One guy who I believe deserves mentioning, is Venser. He is always an absolute house for me. Of course, I play him in my Jenara deck which revolves around blink and ETB (see below) and also happens to be played in Venser sleeves...<.<, but his up ability, +2, bounces anything you control from lands to any creatures with ETB. The reason I suggest him though is, like Elspeth, you can't get a much better ultimate from a planeswalker. I didn't peruse your decklist so I don't know how relevant he would be, but I would at least appeal that he is worth a look.
EDIT: Sorin would be good for his down ability making emblems. Unless that is what you want, I suggest looking at the other options. Plus, Tezzeret the Seeker is good for tutoring up artifacts, but not much else IMO.
I know what the deck is missing, and that is a token producer that doesn't require mana and more control permanents with little to no investment. I want to Create space for 2 out of 3 of these planeswalker; Elspeth, Knight Errant, Liliana of the Veil, and Sorrin, Lord of Innistrad.
I would like help on what to cut for them since they will create small increaments of card advantage. Also, budget isn't an issue since I have all three in my collection.
Thanks ahead of time if you deserve it.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
- Desolation Angel
Too slow
Edit: could also see cutting:
Origin Spellbomb
Scrabbling Claws
Sakashima the Impostor
But, I haven't run the deck and I don't know your meta. That's just what I think at a glance
Glissa, the Traitor, Ulasht, the Hate Seed, The Mimeoplasm
EDH: Olivia Voldaren's Meatgrinder
As for cuts your deck is pretty tight but Magister Sphinx seems a much needed win con in you build bit i do agree with
-Desolation Angel
- Scrabbling Claws ? It appears to be the inferior gravehate and how much do you need?
- Also on lands High Market i've found better than Miren in evey aspect. How important is the life gain?
I've not played a deck that had less than 7 creaturesrather i have but potential life gain was never an issue.I encourage you to do the same. Instead of FNM try Friday Night Something Spontaneous. Instead of thousands of hours and dollars on plastic imagine it with a significant other or friends sharing something meaningful. I randomly typed a new password, so bon voyage itches i encourage you to follow suit! Cheers
I do agree on Desolation Angel, she doesn't get there anymore. If I do get to play her, she dies immediately via spot removal. :).
I will be replacing her with a various Aramageddon effect, most likely Cataclysm or more enchantments.
I already made space for Liliana of the Veil.
Time to make space for Sorrin.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
Anyway, I'd go with Elspeth Tirel since she makes three dudes at once. Her and Lili would be nice.
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Desolation Angle would do her job if I ever get the opportunity to cast her more. For the most part, she was just a dead draw and "drew" hate, but just playing with my playgroup, the usual suspects already have preset targets before the game has even started.
After some testing with Lilian of the Veil; she is amazing with board position. Tonight's games with her on the board was decided by her +1 and ultimate ability.
- What I had on the board after many Wraths and stabilizing.
Liliana of the Veil (of course)
Zur, the Enchanter (General for the night)
Trinsiphere
Mana Vortex
Bitterblossom
Copy Enchantment (Copy of Bitterblossom)
Crucible of Worlds
Phyrexian Arena
Necropotence
Sun Titan
Sculpting Steel (Copy of Skullclamp)
Various mana rocks
7 various lands
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
Additionally, I like Vess better than Veil for her tutor, but as far as a control aspect, the sac ability is nice. I don't like discarding my own cards which is why Vess has the strictly better up ability. So Veil is the better control option.
Sorin is quite underwhelming without a token strategy. He makes a stupid 1/1 vampire that doesn't even fly, and his ultimate, although good, doesn't nearly leave the lasting impact that Knight-Errant does. He is the new PW on the block and, thus, is understandably sensationalized and flashy, but I just haven't been sold on him for anything outside of tokens (e.g. Ghave or Teysa).
One guy who I believe deserves mentioning, is Venser. He is always an absolute house for me. Of course, I play him in my Jenara deck which revolves around blink and ETB (see below) and also happens to be played in Venser sleeves...<.<, but his up ability, +2, bounces anything you control from lands to any creatures with ETB. The reason I suggest him though is, like Elspeth, you can't get a much better ultimate from a planeswalker. I didn't peruse your decklist so I don't know how relevant he would be, but I would at least appeal that he is worth a look.
EDIT: Sorin would be good for his down ability making emblems. Unless that is what you want, I suggest looking at the other options. Plus, Tezzeret the Seeker is good for tutoring up artifacts, but not much else IMO.
EDH:
G[cEDH] Selvala, Heart of the StormG
URW[cEDH] Narset, the Last AirmericanURW
GWUSt. Jenara, the ArchangelGWU
UBGrimgrin, Chaos MarineUB
GOmnath, Mana BaronG
URWNarset, Justice League AmericaURW
GWUBAtraxa, Countess of CountersGWUB
GWUEstrid, Enbantress PrimeGWU