Some of you have probably seen a deck similar to the one I am about to show you. The others will probably under-estimate it. Nonetheless, the deck I am about to share with you is a G/R variant of a deck that I have been running for a while. Without further adieu, here is a deck I like to call my Grape Chishkabobs deck.
The point is to fuel Glimpse or Skullclamp with the free creatures (and the hybrid) in order to draw Cloudstone Curio. Once Cloudstone Curio is in play, all you do is play 1 of the 12 Kobolds, then play a second Kobold and bounce the first ; wash rinse and repeat a million times then cast Grapeshot.
The Street Wraith and Manamorphose are there to thin the deck, hence making the Glimpse and Skullclamp more effective. (Manamorphose even aids the storm count).\
Gamble would be great in this deck, but I can't afford it.
Thanks for the help and the decklist (resembles one I've seen, except it is more defensive).
I am not sure about Empty the Warrens as I will be getting an infinite storm count, so the Grapeshot would deal infinite damage at instant speed (no summon sickness), for 2 mana less (even Tinder Wall can be sacrificed to play it).
Storm Entity is a neat card I had forgotten about though, thanks again.
(Let me know if I am wrong about Warren Vs Grapeshot)
Thanks for the help and the decklist (resembles one I've seen, except it is more defensive).
I am not sure about Empty the Warrens as I will be getting an infinite storm count, so the Grapeshot would deal infinite damage at instant speed (no summon sickness), for 2 mana less (even Tinder Wall can be sacrificed to play it).
Storm Entity is a neat card I had forgotten about though, thanks again.
(Let me know if I am wrong about Warren Vs Grapeshot)
You might not always get the infinite mana, with warrens you can get a storm count of say just 5 by dropping a few kobolds and such and attack a few turns with 10 goblins to win.
Maybe I'm wrong, but he doesn't need infinite mana.. just enough to get two Kobolds going with a Curio out while Glimpse is in play, right? Then he draws to the Grapeshots. (Does Grapeshot have to be a three-of if you can just draw straight to it?)
Maybe I'm wrong, but he doesn't need infinite mana.. just enough to get two Kobolds going with a Curio out while Glimpse is in play, right? Then he draws to the Grapeshots. (Does Grapeshot have to be a three-of if you can just draw straight to it?)
regardless, that doesnt always happen or fast enough. thats why warrens is a better win condition.
The main difference I see is Grapeshot = 1 damage per storm count, at best.
Whereas EtW gives you 2 damage per storm count, and this damage is repeatable as you bash them again and again. The key is that they stick around if not dealt with. Far more potential for damage per card spent to achieve it.
And yeah, if you don't go infinite this means even more to your deck. You need to 'squeak one out', and you can maybe actually do it w/EtW.
I took them out of my storm deck for this reason alone. They win games where Grapeshot has no chance at all, frankly.
Some of you have probably seen a deck similar to the one I am about to show you. The others will probably under-estimate it. Nonetheless, the deck I am about to share with you is a G/R variant of a deck that I have been running for a while. Without further adieu, here is a deck I like to call my Grape Chishkabobs deck.
4 Crimson Kobolds
4 Crookshank Kobolds
4 Kobolds of Kher Keep
4 Wild Cantor
4 Tinder Wall
Draw/Thinning (16)
4 Skullclamp
4 Glimpse of Nature
4 Street Wraith
4 Manamorphose
3 Cloudstone Curio
3 Grapeshot
Mana (18)
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Crop Rotation
1 Fast Bond
3 Land Grant
5 Forest
3 Thran Quarry
4 Mountain
The Street Wraith and Manamorphose are there to thin the deck, hence making the Glimpse and Skullclamp more effective. (Manamorphose even aids the storm count).\
Gamble would be great in this deck, but I can't afford it.
BUWGRChilds PlayGRWUB
BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
Creatures:
3 Crimson Kobolds
3 Crookshank Kobolds
3 Kobolds of Kher Keep
4 Cloud of Faeries
4 Drift of Phantasms
Spells:
4 Brain Freeze
4 Grapeshot
4 [CARD]Muddle the Mixture
[/CARD]2 Furious Assault
2 Equilibrium
2 Foresee
Artifacts:
3 Cloudstone Curio
1 Dragon's Claw
1 Kraken's Eye
Lands:
8 [CARD]Island
[/CARD]8 Mountain
4 Volcanic Island
Agreed. If you make no other change, I'd swap in these for Grapeshot.
Light-years better..try it out and see..
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I am not sure about Empty the Warrens as I will be getting an infinite storm count, so the Grapeshot would deal infinite damage at instant speed (no summon sickness), for 2 mana less (even Tinder Wall can be sacrificed to play it).
Storm Entity is a neat card I had forgotten about though, thanks again.
(Let me know if I am wrong about Warren Vs Grapeshot)
You might not always get the infinite mana, with warrens you can get a storm count of say just 5 by dropping a few kobolds and such and attack a few turns with 10 goblins to win.
BUWGRChilds PlayGRWUB
BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
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regardless, that doesnt always happen or fast enough. thats why warrens is a better win condition.
BUWGRChilds PlayGRWUB
BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
Whereas EtW gives you 2 damage per storm count, and this damage is repeatable as you bash them again and again. The key is that they stick around if not dealt with. Far more potential for damage per card spent to achieve it.
And yeah, if you don't go infinite this means even more to your deck. You need to 'squeak one out', and you can maybe actually do it w/EtW.
I took them out of my storm deck for this reason alone. They win games where Grapeshot has no chance at all, frankly.
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