This thread is for the discussion of my latest article, Cranial Insertion: Our Word is Bond. We would be grateful if you would let us know what you think, but please keep your comments on topic.
[Note that this article is by Brian Paskoff; it was accidentally marked to Aaron for about five minutes, and the forum software made this thread before we could fix it. :/]
Q: With Aluren in play, can I drop a Dryad Arbor during my opponent's turn for free?
A: You can't, but I admit it's not readily apparent why unless you've read 212.6d.
Would having Aluren in play allow you to play Dryad Arbor for free at all?
212.6j If an object is both a land and another card type, it can be played only as a land. It can’t be played as a spell.
I know that Teferi is a bit of an oddball because of the "Creature cards...have flash." bit, but I would have thought that Aluren's alternative cost wouldn't have done anything at all for Dryad Arbor (regardless of turn).
Yeah, in fact Dryad Arbor reminds players that Dryad Arbor isn't a spell, so you don't cast it like you did with spells or activated abilities. Letting Dryad Arbor gains Flash is meaningless, since you don't even cast it in the first place.
Letting Dryad Arbor gains Flash is meaningless, since you don't even cast it in the first place.
Actually, Dryad Arbor gaining flash isn't meaningless. Because flash changes the timing of when you can play the card, whether it's a spell or a land. See 502.57a. So, in that situation, you could play Dryad Arbor at any point during your turn if it had flash. Note: That point is also made in the FAQ entry for Dryad Arbor as well.
But here comes the problem: what does the term 'play' in the definition of Flash (502.57a) means here? Does it mean 'cast' in M10 rules, or 'cast+play' in M10 rules? I'm aware that playing/casting a spell is different than playing a land card.
But here comes the problem: what does the term 'play' in the definition of Flash (502.57a) means here? Does it mean 'cast' in M10 rules, or 'cast+play' in M10 rules? I'm aware that playing/casting a spell is different than playing a land card.
While anything regarding M10 is speculative at this point, the current meaning of the word "play" is (from the Glossary):
The act of playing a spell, land, or ability involves announcing the action and taking the necessary steps to complete it.
So, whether you play Dryad Arbor or play Elvish Warrior, "play" applies equally to both procedures. At least for the next month or so.
Q: If I cascade into a Bond of Agony, can I pay however much life I want for the additional cost of X life?
A: You may remember this controversial question from a recent CI, but now we have an official answer on how it's going to work in the post-M10 world. The rule that says 0 is the only legal choice for X if you're playing a spell for an alternative cost that doesn't include X will be clarified to say it doesn't take additional costs - such as the one on Bond of Agony - into account.
This might be a stylistic choice on the part of the writer, but wouldn't it be much clearer if you started the answer off with "No."? The reasoning behind the answer can of course be complex, but it might help less rules-crazy players to understand the answer better.
This might be a stylistic choice on the part of the writer, but wouldn't it be much clearer if you started the answer off with "No."? The reasoning behind the answer can of course be complex, but it might help less rules-crazy players to understand the answer better.
I agree, the wording is ambiguous (THE ANSWER) so does it work or not?
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Even if the author is silenced, the performance is stopped, the story will not end.
Whether it's a comedy or a tragedy, if there is cheering, the story will continue on.
Just like the many lives.
For the us who are still in it and still in the journey, send warm blessings.
- We will continue to walk down this path until eternity.
This might be a stylistic choice on the part of the writer, but wouldn't it be much clearer if you started the answer off with "No."? The reasoning behind the answer can of course be complex, but it might help less rules-crazy players to understand the answer better.
I concur with this as well. I figured out what the answer was saying after a few seconds of thought, but it could have been much clearer.
A: Yep! Leyline of the Void will replace the cards going to the graveyard, so neither a creature card or one card ever comes first. Their entire library will be removed from the game.
I'm surprised no one else has commented on this one. Is it already well known? I thought it was a nifty Legacy combo.
Edit: Okay, five seconds of Googling confirms that it's fairly well known.
[Note that this article is by Brian Paskoff; it was accidentally marked to Aaron for about five minutes, and the forum software made this thread before we could fix it. :/]
Would having Aluren in play allow you to play Dryad Arbor for free at all?
212.6j If an object is both a land and another card type, it can be played only as a land. It can’t be played as a spell.
I know that Teferi is a bit of an oddball because of the "Creature cards...have flash." bit, but I would have thought that Aluren's alternative cost wouldn't have done anything at all for Dryad Arbor (regardless of turn).
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Actually, Dryad Arbor gaining flash isn't meaningless. Because flash changes the timing of when you can play the card, whether it's a spell or a land. See 502.57a. So, in that situation, you could play Dryad Arbor at any point during your turn if it had flash. Note: That point is also made in the FAQ entry for Dryad Arbor as well.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
While anything regarding M10 is speculative at this point, the current meaning of the word "play" is (from the Glossary):
The act of playing a spell, land, or ability involves announcing the action and taking the necessary steps to complete it.
So, whether you play Dryad Arbor or play Elvish Warrior, "play" applies equally to both procedures. At least for the next month or so.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
This might be a stylistic choice on the part of the writer, but wouldn't it be much clearer if you started the answer off with "No."? The reasoning behind the answer can of course be complex, but it might help less rules-crazy players to understand the answer better.
I agree, the wording is ambiguous (THE ANSWER) so does it work or not?
Whether it's a comedy or a tragedy, if there is cheering, the story will continue on.
Just like the many lives.
For the us who are still in it and still in the journey, send warm blessings.
- We will continue to walk down this path until eternity.
No, it doesn't. If you play Bonds of Agony via the resolving cascade trigger, you can only choose 0 for X.
Short answer: no. You can play Agony via Cascade, but the card would do nothing, and both you and your opponent don't lost any life.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I concur with this as well. I figured out what the answer was saying after a few seconds of thought, but it could have been much clearer.
I'm surprised no one else has commented on this one. Is it already well known? I thought it was a nifty Legacy combo.
Edit: Okay, five seconds of Googling confirms that it's fairly well known.