@Jaede:
There's a deck out there that abuses the infiniite recursion combo of Saffi Eriksdotter and Crypt Champion - it basically lets you get infinite life, or make infinite tokens with that crazy orc shaman dude from cold snap. Anyways, its a blast of a combo deck. I'd give you more details or a link to a thread on it but I'm dead fn tired. (its in t2 decks for critique, INFINITE blahblah somethin)
Let's face it, we all hate soccer moms. For whatever reason. And i know anyone that drives sees a soccer ball sticker on the back of a mini van and groans.
But why? What traits exactly contribute to the creation of a soccer mom?
If a woman has one child, and that one child plays soccer, do we have a soccer mom? Or do we need to squueze an entire team into that volve first?
I'm jsut wondering where we draw the line?
hay giez, it's the ol' A_Z meister just stopping by to remind you of his existence and let you know that he survived his three-midterms-in-one-week debacle. i also wanted to post a deck for your critiquing pleasure, following, of course, the legacy banned/restricted list (so no sol rings, craven). it's a counterbalance deck that uses burn and gelectrode ftw. and before you say it, yes, i know the manabase is janky, but i don't have the appropriate duals, so live with it.
I think it needs more burn and more draw, but I'm not sure how to fit it all in. It already has superior library manipulation (before you say it, this is probably the only deck where Top is good without fetches). You really need the other eight counters to hold the ground until you can drop your Spell Denial Engine. I also need to flesh out the 4cc slot because all I have there right now is the 2 lonely Fact or Fiction. Suggestions?
EDIT: oh, one more thing. i measure the worthiness of all of the deck i make for casual by their ability to beat this deck:
I just got home from going to my local card shop (woo goooo Lost Goblin Games!) where I was enlisted as the 'M:TG Consultant" because he, the owner, knows dick about pricing his singles and neither does his wife.
So I basically sat around and organized his collection for him for two hours, setting cards aside I wanted to buy.
When closing time came I wasn't nearly done and was outlining a plan to him and stuff, he let me know all the cards I set aside I could just take, and he didn't even look at them! I almost hugged the dude. So I'm going to continue organizing his cards for free after this, because this is the list of **** I got for free just now:
whole pack of 8x arena foil Coiling Oracle
Revised: 2x Lightning Bolt, 1x Balance, 1x Demonic Tutor, 1x Channel, 1x Black Vise
Antiquities: 1x Priest of Yawnmoth, 1x Phyrexian Gremlins, 1x The Rack, 1x each all the Urza lands
1x Weatherlight Gemstone Mine
1x Tempest Ancient Tomb
1x TS Psionic Blast
1x each Goblin and Zombie unglued tokens
+ a big pile of various snow-covered lands, foils, and decent uncommons
I now have the daunting task of updating my freakin' trade thread... good god, I have a ton to add... I need 1 more Psi Blast! lol
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If you have the money, bust up Black Sui.
If you don't, a nice alternative for it is Boros. Of course, lacking the moneh (Char, respectively)
Control:
I still see U/W Control to be viable (seeing how Morphling is still legal). You might wanna put a spin on it tho. Blue did get Deep Sea Kraken. Ive never been a big fan of Control, tho.
Combo: My god. There are too many to count. If you find a combo, try it on MWS and see if it does well
@ Aggro: Of course you Counterbalance deck is jank. Its counterbalance:bteach:
In the mean time, you said you won't play it if it cant beat a MESMERIC ORB DECK. A deck that wants to burn and counter based off of its LIBRARY cant beat a MILL deck.
I don't think youll be playing it all that often
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For the 5 color aggro, I'm trying to figure out the correct mana base and creature spread. I don't think there are enough solid gold slivers like there were back in the day.
But the curve is all kinds of messed up! I need more gold burn spells that cost mana and I really need Isamaru, hound of Konda, as I only have 1 good one drop.
I need the 1 drop to be either white or black. Because the mana base is so freaking all over the place already.
@ Aggro: Of course you Counterbalance deck is jank. Its counterbalance:bteach:
In the mean time, you said you won't play it if it cant beat a MESMERIC ORB DECK. A deck that wants to burn and counter based off of its LIBRARY cant beat a MILL deck.
I don't think youll be playing it all that often
thankz 4 ur help giez!!!!1!!!ONE i wil fix thees dekcs rite up. good 2 no u giez r their 2 help me with my deck.
hay giez, it's the ol' A_Z meister just stopping by to remind you of his existence and let you know that he survived his three-midterms-in-one-week debacle. i also wanted to post a deck for your critiquing pleasure, following, of course, the legacy banned/restricted list (so no sol rings, craven). it's a counterbalance deck that uses burn and gelectrode ftw. and before you say it, yes, i know the manabase is janky, but i don't have the appropriate duals, so live with it.
Well A_Z first, let me say I love that mesmeric dredge deck. I'm going to proxy it up and play around with it.
But you know it's good already, so I'll try to help with your counter burn.
I know you probably won't want to go this route, but I belive that 2 Isochron Scepters would be the icing on the cake for this one. I think it's virtual card advantage would help to solidify your deck a bit more.
At the very least, I would consider adding 1 Scepter and 1 Muddle the Mixture. The muddle can tutor up your decks centerpiece (Counterbalance) when your ready, or it can tute' up your lone scepter at an oppurtune time.
thankz 4 ur help giez!!!!1!!!ONE i wil fix thees dekcs rite up. good 2 no u giez r their 2 help me with my deck.
I'm only stating the obvious; You completely invalidated your reasoning on running the deck. Counterbalance uses deck manipulation. IIRC, Mill kinda wrecks deck manipulation. You said you won't run a deck that can't consistently beat it....
Just facing the situation logically....
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I'm only stating the obvious; You completely invalidated your reasoning on running the deck. Counterbalance uses deck manipulation. IIRC, Mill kinda wrecks deck manipulation. You said you won't run a deck that can't consistently beat it....
Just facing the situation logically....
Sometime, just maybe, Aggro's just just joking ya know :p.
Aggro: I still don't think you fixed up the problem with your last attempt. That is the creature control. Burn is nice, but most aren't really going to do much against gob's speed. Why not get in some Pyroclasm and junk?
All: I really want to concok a list out that utilizes stuffy doll+Wildfire mostly for Legacy. I envision a ponza build with sweepers+LD for the win. Thoughts?
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that sounds like my kind of deck! Got a decklist?
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Volvo Drivin' Soccer Mom?
Let's face it, we all hate soccer moms. For whatever reason. And i know anyone that drives sees a soccer ball sticker on the back of a mini van and groans.
But why? What traits exactly contribute to the creation of a soccer mom?
If a woman has one child, and that one child plays soccer, do we have a soccer mom? Or do we need to squueze an entire team into that volve first?
I'm jsut wondering where we draw the line?
Help!
Well that explains why you were a starter.
LOL! I would sig that if I had room.
Edit: I do!
3 Gelectrode
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Fire // Ice
4 Electrolyze
3 Magma Jet
Counters:
4 Counterspell
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
3 Serum Visions
2 Fact or Fiction
Countering Balance:
3 Counterbalance
3 Sensei's Divining Top
Craptastic Manabase:
10 Island
7 Mountain
3 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Magma Jet
3 Pyroclasm
2 Fact or Fiction (once I get them - they're Truth or Tale atm)
4 Meltdown
4 Echoing Truth
1 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage (just because I can)
I think it needs more burn and more draw, but I'm not sure how to fit it all in. It already has superior library manipulation (before you say it, this is probably the only deck where Top is good without fetches). You really need the other eight counters to hold the ground until you can drop your Spell Denial Engine. I also need to flesh out the 4cc slot because all I have there right now is the 2 lonely Fact or Fiction. Suggestions?
EDIT: oh, one more thing. i measure the worthiness of all of the deck i make for casual by their ability to beat this deck:
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
3 Golgari Guildmage
4 Eternal Witness
3 Phyrexian Negator (thanks Twinks!)
3 Grave-Shell Scarab
2 Vulturous Zombie
2 Gaea's Blessing
4 Mesmeric Orb
4 Putrefy
2 Darkblast
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Dance of the Dead
7 Swamp
3 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
1 Darkblast
3 Infest
3 Moment's Peace
4 Withered Wretch
4 Viridian Zealot
If it can't beat this on a consistent basis, I won't play it. So, critique away!
EDIT2: dur, forgot the lands.
Oni:
Haha, but that was a good one, I'll admit it. Touche.
Muck: That is definitely sig-worthy in mine opinion, but alteast fix my typo(of=off):p
So I basically sat around and organized his collection for him for two hours, setting cards aside I wanted to buy.
When closing time came I wasn't nearly done and was outlining a plan to him and stuff, he let me know all the cards I set aside I could just take, and he didn't even look at them! I almost hugged the dude. So I'm going to continue organizing his cards for free after this, because this is the list of **** I got for free just now:
whole pack of 8x arena foil Coiling Oracle
Revised: 2x Lightning Bolt, 1x Balance, 1x Demonic Tutor, 1x Channel, 1x Black Vise
Antiquities: 1x Priest of Yawnmoth, 1x Phyrexian Gremlins, 1x The Rack, 1x each all the Urza lands
1x Weatherlight Gemstone Mine
1x Tempest Ancient Tomb
1x TS Psionic Blast
1x each Goblin and Zombie unglued tokens
+ a big pile of various snow-covered lands, foils, and decent uncommons
I now have the daunting task of updating my freakin' trade thread... good god, I have a ton to add... I need 1 more Psi Blast! lol
~In the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded.~
Fu's Cab - Retired! ||| Trade thread dead for now; returning soon!
One day I will alt. art my Jace, The Mind Sculptors into 'Mentok! The Mind Takers!'
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That's a whole lot a cards.
... Now that I think of it, the last pack I opened were my prize packs at the DIS prerelease. Wow. It's been a while.
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And, if anybody else that does T2 have any deck suggestions, LMK.
but its balls out aggro.
I think its cheap t build though...
If you have the money, bust up Black Sui.
If you don't, a nice alternative for it is Boros. Of course, lacking the moneh (Char, respectively)
Control:
I still see U/W Control to be viable (seeing how Morphling is still legal). You might wanna put a spin on it tho. Blue did get Deep Sea Kraken. Ive never been a big fan of Control, tho.
Combo: My god. There are too many to count. If you find a combo, try it on MWS and see if it does well
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I'm still trying to figure out how to make a hyper aggresive deck with Pillar of the Paruns and Gemstone mine to fuel out the good stuff.
But my main decks as of right now are:
:symu::symw: control
:symu::symr::symw: skies
:symb::symr: aggro / burn
:symu::symb: aggro control
Trying to figure out
:symb::symr: Burning Dreams
:symu::symb::symw: aggro / control with Zur
:symu::symb::symw::symr::symg: aggro
For the all color: slivers, maybe?
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In the mean time, you said you won't play it if it cant beat a MESMERIC ORB DECK. A deck that wants to burn and counter based off of its LIBRARY cant beat a MILL deck.
I don't think youll be playing it all that often
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For the 5 color aggro, I'm trying to figure out the correct mana base and creature spread. I don't think there are enough solid gold slivers like there were back in the day.
Cards I'm considering:
4 Gemstone Mine
4 Savannah Lions
4 Watchwolf
4 Dark Confidant
2 Loxodon Hirearch
4 Lightning Helix
4 Electrolize
But the curve is all kinds of messed up! I need more gold burn spells that cost mana and I really need Isamaru, hound of Konda, as I only have 1 good one drop.
I need the 1 drop to be either white or black. Because the mana base is so freaking all over the place already.
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thankz 4 ur help giez!!!!1!!!ONE i wil fix thees dekcs rite up. good 2 no u giez r their 2 help me with my deck.
Well A_Z first, let me say I love that mesmeric dredge deck. I'm going to proxy it up and play around with it.
But you know it's good already, so I'll try to help with your counter burn.
I know you probably won't want to go this route, but I belive that 2 Isochron Scepters would be the icing on the cake for this one. I think it's virtual card advantage would help to solidify your deck a bit more.
At the very least, I would consider adding 1 Scepter and 1 Muddle the Mixture. The muddle can tutor up your decks centerpiece (Counterbalance) when your ready, or it can tute' up your lone scepter at an oppurtune time.
I'm only stating the obvious; You completely invalidated your reasoning on running the deck. Counterbalance uses deck manipulation. IIRC, Mill kinda wrecks deck manipulation. You said you won't run a deck that can't consistently beat it....
Just facing the situation logically....
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Sometime, just maybe, Aggro's just just joking ya know :p.
Aggro: I still don't think you fixed up the problem with your last attempt. That is the creature control. Burn is nice, but most aren't really going to do much against gob's speed. Why not get in some Pyroclasm and junk?
All: I really want to concok a list out that utilizes stuffy doll+Wildfire mostly for Legacy. I envision a ponza build with sweepers+LD for the win. Thoughts?