I'd like to announce the opening of the NSFW Creative Writing & NSFW Debate subforums.
To access these areas, you will need to be at least 18 years of age, with your birthdate in your profile (feel free to keep it hidden as per the profile option). In the User Control Panel, under Group Memberships there is a NSFW User Group that you can apply to.
As per the Red Zone subforums' creed, any active infractions on your profile will prevent you from accessing these areas. Additionally, in the NSFW subforums, if you are discovered to actually be under 18, you will be removed from the NSFW group & suspended. Other penalties may apply.
Currently the censor is Active in these subforums; it is up to Hannes to change that. To be sure, flaming, trolling, or other anti-social behavior are not welcome in these areas.
At some point we may open a similar NSFW Artwork subforum, but this hinges on us comfortably defining what we'd allow in there. I'd also like to have a go at a MEAN GAMES subforum, but I'll tell you more about that when we've had some time to see how CW & D are working out.
The rules for these areas are:
NSFW Creative Writing rules
This subforum is rated Not Safe For Work. Content that is not normally allowed in the Creative Writing subforum will be allowed here.
You must be at least 18 years of age to be in this subforum. Any person found to be under 18 will be suspended from Salvation.
Any moderation in this subforum will be in the form of an infraction. There will be no warnings here.
As per the Red Zone creed, any active infractions on your profile will remove you from this subforum until the infractions expire.
Foul language and cursing are acceptable here, in the context of creative writing. The censor may be removed at some point.
Content of a more adult nature is allowed here, but outright pornography is not. The line between 'acceptable' and 'not acceptable' is being left intentionally undefined so as to allow creative liberty, but if you are unsure, contact the staff.
The stories from this subforum are not eligible for any Creative Writing contests. The NSFW Creative Writing Forum may get its own contests.
A last reminder: While strong language is allowed here, trolling and flaming are not. Please maintain a constructive and courteous manner when posting in this subforum.
NSFW Debate Rules
The purpose of NSFW Debate. NSFW Debate is here to provide a forum for civil and mature conversation on topics which would be too delicate or explicit to discuss in the public Debate, Religion, and Philosophy boards. It is not here to host regular debates peppered with crude, offensive, or vulgar remarks. You may say, "Here are my opinions on the popular use of the word '****'." You may not say, "**** President Jones" – and you may definitely not say, "**** you for voting for President Jones." With one exception, all normal Debate rules apply. In fact, if you followed that link and committed its contents to heart, you can stop reading after this paragraph and the next one, because the rest of the post is just a recap.
The exception is that the "de facto forbidden topics" rule has been removed. We trust you to be able to restrain yourself here, though in case you don't, remember the Red Zone creed: One infraction and you're out. No warnings.
NSFW links and images. They are allowed here, of course. But they need to be pertinent to the discussion. Images should be put in [spoiler] tags, and both spoilered images and links should have their content clearly and truthfully described - just because we can talk about this stuff doesn't mean that everybody wants to see everything. Pornography is still a site suspension offense. Shock sites are still site ban offenses.
Spam. Due to the purpose of this board, we have particularly high standards about what constitutes a productive post. If your post doesn’t move the discussion forward in some way, then it is spam.
Positions without reasons. This isn’t the place to share your opinions. It’s the place to discuss them. If all you post is something like “I think Mike Huckabee is the best presidential candidate,” we don’t have much to discuss. Every one of your posts that states a position should also state the reasons you have for taking that position.
“+1” posts. A particularly common offense is to post that you agree with someone else’s position, without adding any new arguments or thoughts to that position. This is spam. Don’t do it.
Repetitive posts and “stonewalling.” Sometimes you want to +1 yourself, restating your position because the other guys obviously just didn’t get it the first time. Because we recognize that repeating an idea in new words often can assist understanding, we don’t necessarily consider this spam. However, we will infract repetition that we deem obnoxious; generally, this means reasserting your position multiple times in much the same way without taking into account the responses of others.
Bare contradiction. “That’s not true.” Obviously, the other guy thinks it is. And he probably already knows that you disagree with him, as well. Your job isn’t to assert that you’re right and he’s wrong; it’s to explain why.
Nonsense posts. We expect you to make the effort to communicate your position clearly to the rest of us. If you write a rambling, incoherent post that nobody can understand, that’s a failure of your clarity, not a failure of everybody else’s intelligence. As a result, it’s spam.
Posts that are not spam. Not all spam posts are short, and not all short posts are spam. Even a simple “Yes” or “No” can be a perfectly productive post, provided it’s an adequate answer to a question that has been posed to you. Similarly, a concession or acknowledgement such as “Okay, I understand you now” is appropriate when you had previously been debating against the other guy’s position – in fact, it’s rather polite.
Trolling. Trolling, in NSFW Debate, is any post that intentionally or foreseeably invites flaming or other forms of misbehavior. Note that you do not have to intend to troll in order to be trolling. The mods aren’t mind readers, and cannot evaluate your intentions one way or another. For the same reason, you do not have to adopt a false position in order to be trolling; you can be infracted for espousing a position you genuinely hold, if your presentation is inflammatory. We are aware that this definition of trolling is stricter than that found on many other boards. We feel that ours is better.
Feeding the troll. Responding to a troll is rewarding a troll. If you respond to a post that has been served an Infraction for Trolling, you will be infracted. We also ask that you exercise your good judgment, and not respond to any post you consider trollish even if it hasn’t been infracted yet, though barring extreme circumstances we’re not going to infract you for not judging a post the same way we do.
Calling someone a troll. We’ve had a rash of this, so it’s time to lay down the law. Calling someone a troll is not only mild flaming, but also implicitly feeding the troll. If you think someone is a troll, why are you responding to them? The proper course of action is to report the post and move on.
Non-trolls. People who disagree with you are not trolls. People who disagree with you snarkily are not trolls. Even people who provoke you to flaming are not necessarily trolls; sometimes it’s just your fault. (Don’t expect getting trolled to excuse a flaming infraction, either.)
The illegal activities policy. In the general rules, the promotion of illegal activity is listed as an auto-suspension offense. In Debate, it is only natural to discuss whether or not certain things that are against the law should be. In order to allow such discussions to have two sides, we do not consider “promotion” taking the position that an illegal activity ought to be legal; you are free to argue it. However, we ask that you keep the conversation abstract. Writing positively about personal experience breaking the law, or advising people about breaking the law, is akin to promoting that behavior and will result in a suspension. For example, “The income tax should be abolished, and here’s why” is a perfectly acceptable statement to make. “I regularly cheat on my income tax” or “Here’s how you can cheat on your income tax” are not. Remember, there is nothing in "NSFW" that stands for "Illegal".
Nuisance behavior. The following will not earn you an infraction, unless it becomes a serious problem. However, it is the sort of stuff that annoys the other debaters, and so for your own good you should really avoid it.
Assuming people are foolish. The fact that your debate opponent does not agree with you does not mean that he/she has not thought the issue through or that he/she does not understand logic. You will get much farther in a Debate by focusing on why people have come to their conclusions rather than on the conclusions themselves. Odds are good that they weren't knee-jerk positions taken up merely to annoy you.
Nitpicking. In some sense, nitpicking is the heart and soul of debate. However, if you consistently focus on a few minutiae of the other guy’s position while ignoring the rest of it, and the minutiae have little or no bearing on the soundness of the position as a whole, then you’re doing it wrong.
Quote hacking. This is where you substitute some words in a post you’re quoting, usually to point out the hypocrisy in the other guy’s position. There are lots of other ways to point out hypocrisy. Respect the sanctity of quotations.
Not reading the thread. People really don’t like it when you come into a thread and post a position that’s already been posted and discussed at length. So please read a thread before posting in it. Now, we get some pretty long threads in Debate, and in those cases we don’t expect you to read all five hundred posts. But going over the latest three or four pages should at least let you know if what you want to post has been brought up recently.
Necroing. Responding to threads that have fallen off the first page is contrary to general forum etiquette. It’s not against the rules here at MTGS, but please try to confine yourself to active threads, and start a new thread if you want to discuss a topic not currently in an active thread.
Other. There’s no way to write a complete list of the ways to make a nuisance of yourself in Debate. Usually, you’ll know when you’re doing it; if not, others will certainly make it clear to you. Please avoid such behavior.
tl;dr: Don’t be a dingus.
Cheers to Nai & Blinking Spirit for spearheading these documents & their respective subforums.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask here, or in PMs to the moderators of these areas: NSFW Creative Writing – rianalnn, Nai, ExpiredRascals, Yukora NSFW Debate – rianlnn, Blinking Spirit, ExpiredRascals, Yukora
How do I find these places? I remember back when I was a member of the fence-painting club, it showed up in the popup window.
But I can't find these, even though I am a member.
Help, please?
For the same reasons as with the Speakeasy and the Gutter - you can't access them if you have an active infraction.
When your infraction expires, you'll find the Speakeasy and the NSFW subforums at the bottom of the forum index, below Technical Support, above Retired Forums.
NSFW group members may also access the NSFW subs from category redirects within the corresponding SFW sub.
So if you were interested in visiting NSFW Debate, as long as you are a group member and have no active infraction, there should be sub-forum redirect at the top of normal debate which will take you there.
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For the same reasons as with the Speakeasy and the Gutter - you can't access them if you have an active infraction.
When your infraction expires, you'll find the Speakeasy and the NSFW subforums at the bottom of the forum index, below Technical Support, above Retired Forums.
Not that I care about this, but this makes the BS infractions even more
i applied, even though i have an active infraction, i mostly applied because i'd like to read and such, less about the posting as i'm not good with writing or debate.
Also, i'm aware it doesn't show up on my screen since i have an active infraction, but where is the speakeasy and these forums going to be listed. When i was apart of the guttar it was up at the very top, above the forum rules.
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Also, i'm aware it doesn't show up on my screen since i have an active infraction, but where is the speakeasy and these forums going to be listed. When i was apart of the guttar it was up at the very top, above the forum rules.
When your infraction expires, you'll find the Speakeasy and the NSFW subforums at the bottom of the forum index, below Technical Support, above Retired Forums.
NSFW group members may also access the NSFW subs from category redirects within the corresponding SFW sub.
So if you were interested in visiting NSFW Debate, as long as you are a group member and have no active infraction, there should be sub-forum redirect at the top of normal debate which will take you there.
Ravarshi Kashaku, Ancient Dragon of the Darkened Realms;
The Merciless Lord of Torture, Permanently Bound To: ">[THE PACK] 11/5/63 - 11/25/09 Goodbye mom, i'll always love you...
To access these areas, you will need to be at least 18 years of age, with your birthdate in your profile (feel free to keep it hidden as per the profile option). In the User Control Panel, under Group Memberships there is a NSFW User Group that you can apply to.
As per the Red Zone subforums' creed, any active infractions on your profile will prevent you from accessing these areas. Additionally, in the NSFW subforums, if you are discovered to actually be under 18, you will be removed from the NSFW group & suspended. Other penalties may apply.
Currently the censor is Active in these subforums; it is up to Hannes to change that. To be sure, flaming, trolling, or other anti-social behavior are not welcome in these areas.
At some point we may open a similar NSFW Artwork subforum, but this hinges on us comfortably defining what we'd allow in there. I'd also like to have a go at a MEAN GAMES subforum, but I'll tell you more about that when we've had some time to see how CW & D are working out.
The rules for these areas are:
This subforum is rated Not Safe For Work. Content that is not normally allowed in the Creative Writing subforum will be allowed here.
The normal rules of the forum, and of the Creative Writing subforum, apply here, with the following exceptions:
A last reminder: While strong language is allowed here, trolling and flaming are not. Please maintain a constructive and courteous manner when posting in this subforum.
The purpose of NSFW Debate. NSFW Debate is here to provide a forum for civil and mature conversation on topics which would be too delicate or explicit to discuss in the public Debate, Religion, and Philosophy boards. It is not here to host regular debates peppered with crude, offensive, or vulgar remarks. You may say, "Here are my opinions on the popular use of the word '****'." You may not say, "**** President Jones" – and you may definitely not say, "**** you for voting for President Jones." With one exception, all normal Debate rules apply. In fact, if you followed that link and committed its contents to heart, you can stop reading after this paragraph and the next one, because the rest of the post is just a recap.
The exception is that the "de facto forbidden topics" rule has been removed. We trust you to be able to restrain yourself here, though in case you don't, remember the Red Zone creed: One infraction and you're out. No warnings.
NSFW links and images. They are allowed here, of course. But they need to be pertinent to the discussion. Images should be put in [spoiler] tags, and both spoilered images and links should have their content clearly and truthfully described - just because we can talk about this stuff doesn't mean that everybody wants to see everything. Pornography is still a site suspension offense. Shock sites are still site ban offenses.
Spam. Due to the purpose of this board, we have particularly high standards about what constitutes a productive post. If your post doesn’t move the discussion forward in some way, then it is spam.
Trolling. Trolling, in NSFW Debate, is any post that intentionally or foreseeably invites flaming or other forms of misbehavior. Note that you do not have to intend to troll in order to be trolling. The mods aren’t mind readers, and cannot evaluate your intentions one way or another. For the same reason, you do not have to adopt a false position in order to be trolling; you can be infracted for espousing a position you genuinely hold, if your presentation is inflammatory. We are aware that this definition of trolling is stricter than that found on many other boards. We feel that ours is better.
The illegal activities policy. In the general rules, the promotion of illegal activity is listed as an auto-suspension offense. In Debate, it is only natural to discuss whether or not certain things that are against the law should be. In order to allow such discussions to have two sides, we do not consider “promotion” taking the position that an illegal activity ought to be legal; you are free to argue it. However, we ask that you keep the conversation abstract. Writing positively about personal experience breaking the law, or advising people about breaking the law, is akin to promoting that behavior and will result in a suspension. For example, “The income tax should be abolished, and here’s why” is a perfectly acceptable statement to make. “I regularly cheat on my income tax” or “Here’s how you can cheat on your income tax” are not. Remember, there is nothing in "NSFW" that stands for "Illegal".
Nuisance behavior. The following will not earn you an infraction, unless it becomes a serious problem. However, it is the sort of stuff that annoys the other debaters, and so for your own good you should really avoid it.
tl;dr: Don’t be a dingus.
Cheers to Nai & Blinking Spirit for spearheading these documents & their respective subforums.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask here, or in PMs to the moderators of these areas:
NSFW Creative Writing – rianalnn, Nai, ExpiredRascals, Yukora
NSFW Debate – rianlnn, Blinking Spirit, ExpiredRascals, Yukora
This is different from the Speakeasy, correct?
It is different. They're not in the Speakeasy, they have different permissions, and different rules.
But I can't find these, even though I am a member.
Help, please?
They are done in the REd zone just under the speak easy. You should be able to see them if your membership request has been processed.
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For the same reasons as with the Speakeasy and the Gutter - you can't access them if you have an active infraction.
When your infraction expires, you'll find the Speakeasy and the NSFW subforums at the bottom of the forum index, below Technical Support, above Retired Forums.
So if you were interested in visiting NSFW Debate, as long as you are a group member and have no active infraction, there should be sub-forum redirect at the top of normal debate which will take you there.
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Thanks everyone.
Not that I care about this, but this makes the BS infractions even more
My have/wants trade list.
Also, i'm aware it doesn't show up on my screen since i have an active infraction, but where is the speakeasy and these forums going to be listed. When i was apart of the guttar it was up at the very top, above the forum rules.
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Tibalt & His Devils vs. Avacyn's Inquisitors
My EDH decklists
These might answer your questions: -
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Tibalt & His Devils vs. Avacyn's Inquisitors
My EDH decklists
Ambition must be made to counteract ambition.
Individualities may form communities, but it is institutions alone that can create a nation.
Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success.
Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle.
I have had to reject a significant number of applications from users not conforming to the requirements, however.