MTG Salvation

There is only 1 foil ghost council. I win

I got pile B. I was just establishing myself in a new cardstore, so i figured i'd do some trades just for equal value as a pose to gaining desired cards.

i got pile b

Pile A
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
3 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
1 Foil Goblin Electromancer
1 Foil Past in Flames

Pile B
3 Temple Garden (RTR)

Quote from Stille_Nacht

I got pile B. I was just establishing myself in a new cardstore, so i figured i'd do some trades just for equal value as a pose to gaining desired cards.

i got pile b

Pile A
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
3 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
1 Foil Goblin Electromancer
1 Foil Past in Flames

Pile B
3 Temple Garden (RTR)

Uh, that's
Iona $18
3 Tezz-Agent at 8 = $24
Electro $2
Past $10
Total $54

for
3 Garden at $10
Total $30

Yeah, top pile for me, not even close.

Quote from Stille_Nacht

I got pile B. I was just establishing myself in a new cardstore, so i figured i'd do some trades just for equal value as a pose to gaining desired cards.

i got pile b

Pile A
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
3 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
1 Foil Goblin Electromancer
1 Foil Past in Flames

Pile B
3 Temple Garden (RTR)

I dont understand....are you trying to win friends at this LGS by giving up cards? This trade is WAY uneven in my opinion To make it in a new LGS, just be friendly You shouldnt have to trade an arm and a leg to get in with them

Quote from Stille_Nacht

I got pile B. I was just establishing myself in a new cardstore, so i figured i'd do some trades just for equal value as a pose to gaining desired cards.

i got pile b

Pile A
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
3 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
1 Foil Goblin Electromancer
1 Foil Past in Flames

Pile B
3 Temple Garden (RTR)

umm... wow...

Pile A by double.

As for making friends. Doing deals like the one you made won't really help you establish yourself... it will only make you a future shark target.

The deal is not terrible... but this is the type of deal I see a person making to the store and not an individual.

To a store, its about right 50% for things you need. But to an individual it is way off.

I am trading the JTMS

Pile A:
1x Geist of Saint Traft
4x Rancor (Urza's Legacy)
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Glacial Fortress
2x Hallowed Fountain
1x Temple Garden
1x Loxodon Smiter
1x Noble Hierarch
1x Ensaring Bridge
1x City of Brass

Pile B
1x SP Jace, the Mindsculptor

I def would not let jtms go for that. if he added like another couple shocks or another hierarch then maybe.

Quote from twinner

I am trading the JTMS

Pile A:
1x Geist of Saint Traft
4x Rancor (Urza's Legacy)
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Glacial Fortress
2x Hallowed Fountain
1x Temple Garden
1x Loxodon Smiter
1x Noble Hierarch
1x Ensaring Bridge
1x City of Brass

Pile B
1x SP Jace, the Mindsculptor

Pile A:
2x Verdant Catacombs
1x Marsh Flats
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Arid Mesa
1x Daze
1x Path to Exile

Pile B:
1x SP Bayou
1x Polluted Delta

Quote from furnace

Pile A:
2x Verdant Catacombs
1x Marsh Flats
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Arid Mesa
1x Daze
1x Path to Exile

Pile B:
1x SP Bayou
1x Polluted Delta

Pile A.

with more shockland reprints... the fetches will be the only real barrier to the mana base. Expect that barrier to increase over time.

Quote from furnace

Pile A:
2x Verdant Catacombs
1x Marsh Flats
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Arid Mesa
1x Daze
1x Path to Exile

Pile B:
1x SP Bayou
1x Polluted Delta

I like pile A here but only because I think allied fetches are due for a reprint and enemy fetches have room to grow still. If you could take out the polluted delta on pile B and save 2-3 fetches from pile A then that'd be another story though.

Really need opinions on these:
A) Aurelia, the Warleader
B) 3 Zealous Conscripts, Glaring Spotlight, Deadeye Navigator, Clan Defiance, Mizzium Mortars

A) Liliana of the Veil
B) 2 Aurelia, the Warleaders

Quote from Tiemuuu

Really need opinions on these:
A) Aurelia, the Warleader
B) 3 Zealous Conscripts, Glaring Spotlight, Deadeye Navigator, Clan Defiance, Mizzium Mortars

A) Liliana of the Veil
B) 2 Aurelia, the Warleaders

I would go with B and then A. If I needed to get in the first to get A in the second one, I would do A on both.

I haven't looked up what Aurelia is at though, but I do like LotV.

Quote from Tiemuuu

Really need opinions on these:
A) Aurelia, the Warleader
B) 3 Zealous Conscripts, Glaring Spotlight, Deadeye Navigator, Clan Defiance, Mizzium Mortars

A.

If youre looking at value: A is worth $20
B is only worth $13

Typically when trading up to one larger item, somebody giving a lot of small value rares must add several dollars in value.

Example, you give me 10 two dollar cards for my 1 sixteen dollar card.

So, here's a trade I've been contemplating making:

Pile A (mine)
Misty Rainforest
Umezawa's Jitte
Cryptic Command

Pile B
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Inquisition of Kozilek


I'd potentially feel like a real idiot for giving away an enemy fetch, but really want to play Pox in Legacy, and have no need for any of the cards I'd be trading away. I suppose a lot of it has to do with what Liliana can be expected to do in the future (near and long-term).

I think the deal is absolutely reasonable both in terms of value and in terms of playability, and either side is acceptable. While Liliana will dip when rotation comes around, strong Modern and Legacy play will keep her from tanking too much, and will ensure the long-term trend is upward.

The deciding factor is that you want the Liliana set to play Pox in Legacy, and I say go for it. Even trades like this should always be decided on what you are looking for to actually build a deck.

Quote from sH0opdAwoOp

So, here's a trade I've been contemplating making:

Pile A (mine)
Misty Rainforest
Umezawa's Jitte
Cryptic Command

Pile B
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Inquisition of Kozilek


I'd potentially feel like a real idiot for giving away an enemy fetch, but really want to play Pox in Legacy, and have no need for any of the cards I'd be trading away. I suppose a lot of it has to do with what Liliana can be expected to do in the future (near and long-term).

Both sides are pretty nice but if you are looking to play with them then B has much better value because you will get time out of them.

Quote from Soadi

Pile A
Geist of Saint Traft

Pile B
2x Deathrite Shaman

It's close, but I think I take the Shamans, as they fit into more decks that Geist does, and isn't hindered by the Legend rule, so those decks that play Shaman will generally play it in multiples.

Also, Geist has room to fall when rotation hits, and Shaman's at its low now that RTR isn't going to be opened nearly as much going forward.

Quote from skip430

box of Gatecrash or box or RTR? (neither can be used for drafting)

I reckon RTR has more playable rares. Deathrite Shaman, A-Decay, Supreme Verdict. JAoT is a solid PW, better than Domri or Gideon from GTC. Then again, GTC's Shocks are likely to end up slightly more expensive, and GTC has some nice guild leaders like Aurelia, Obzedat and Zegana. If you want to unload your mythics and rares quickly, GTC might be more profitable purchase. On the other hand, RTR is without a doubt a better set, especially in the long term.

Here's a trade im thinking about doing. I have an extra tarn and i need intuition but in the long run this feels like a bad trade.

My
Nm scalding tarn
His
Sp intuition

OR

My
Sp mutavault
His
Sp intuition

The prices on either of the two trades line up. I'd be more inclined to trade the Mutavault over the Scalding Tarn because I think there's a good chance there's a MM reprint of Mutavault, and as such, the price may fall a few bucks here in a few months.

Double posting because I want to ask about something (I'd be getting B):

Pile A:
1x Huntmaster of the Fells
2x Sphinx's Revelation

Pile B:
1x Taiga

Quote from Drifting Skies

Double posting because I want to ask about something (I'd be getting B):

Pile A:
1x Huntmaster of the Fells
2x Sphinx's Revelation

Pile B:
1x Taiga

Of course you should make that trade. There should be a sticky on the forum that says "Always take the dual land or the FoW!"

Man, just think that like a month ago, the 2 Sphinx's themselves would be worth more than the Taiga. Still, it's a good trade nowadays, fairly even I think, but Taiga is only likely to go up, and the other two are more prone to spikes if a decklist all of a sudden explodes in popularity (again).

Obviously take the Taiga. Who cares is the SR or HotF spikes, next year you will be able to pick both cards up for <20$ and your Taiga will be worth 50-60$.