This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
Well, I would say $12 or so for the difference between a FTV one and a normal, non-foil one and maybe $30 for for the difference between a normal foil and a normal, non-foil.
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Well, I would say $12 or so for the difference between a FTV one and a normal, non-foil one and maybe $30 for for the difference between a normal foil and a normal, non-foil.
That seems about right to me. Also, for future reference, please try to keep this thread Pile A vs Pile B. Thanks!
I'm gonna say pile B. While a foil Deathrite is pretty nice you'll have to find an avid player to get full value out of it. If you intend to play with it however I would be close to switch but think B is the overall better bet
I need Pile B for EDH, but as you know its an Underground Sea
Honestly, this trade is fully dependent on the 40$ worth of fillers. If they are bulky/under $5 cards, this trade is awesome for you. If they are 4 liquid $10 cards, it is a very fair trade. This is the kind of trade I would take for one of my Seas, I don't think you are doing badly.
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Well i think the filler would be like 4 liquid 10 dollar cards. I think ill go ahead and agree to the trade. I dont need the Usea as I have enough for my 2 decks and I want the fetches for my EDH deck
Honestly, this trade is fully dependent on the 40$ worth of fillers. If they are bulky/under $5 cards, this trade is awesome for you. If they are 4 liquid $10 cards, it is a very fair trade. This is the kind of trade I would take for one of my Seas, I don't think you are doing badly.
Personally i feel like pile B is coming out ahead just cuz the geist clique scalding are alone cost to 90. Spell snares are like 5-10. I personally like duals, but it seems more towards pile B
Personally i feel like pile B is coming out ahead just cuz the geist clique scalding are alone cost to 90. Spell snares are like 5-10. I personally like duals, but it seems more towards pile B
I probably would've done it without the arid mesa, like stated above, you have like $90 in staple cards already, not including the snares.
I probably would've done it without the arid mesa, like stated above, you have like $90 in staple cards already, not including the snares.
Appreciate the Feedback. I was the one getting pile B. I rarely want to give up Duals for non-dual piles, but my friend really wanted it, and kept offering better stuff.
I also have this offer..I haven't done it, but I want to know what you guys think..
Pile A
NM FOW
NM Cryptic Command
for
Pile B
Sword of Light and Shadow
Windswept Heath
Deathrite shaman
and
Pile A
3x Terminus
1x Supreme Verdict
1x Glacial Fortress
Appreciate the Feedback. I was the one getting pile B. I rarely want to give up Duals for non-dual piles, but my friend really wanted it, and kept offering better stuff.
I also have this offer..I haven't done it, but I want to know what you guys think..
Pile A
NM FOW
NM Cryptic Command
for
Pile B
Sword of Light and Shadow
Windswept Heath
Deathrite shaman
and
Pile A
3x Terminus
1x Supreme Verdict
1x Glacial Fortress
for
Pile B
NM ThoughtSeize
+ a few bulk rares (maybe)
Trade 1 is Pile A for sure. Cryptic command is a great EDH and Modern card, and it's gone up a little bit in the past few months. Pile B is good too, but swords have seen a slight decline, and the fetch isn't super special.
Trade 2, I think pile B is the way to go. Terminus was hyped because of standard, and getting a Modern/Legacy staple seems good.
I agree with Sparki on the first trade but not the second; while Terminus is seeing a lot of play in Standard, it's also a Legacy staple in the Miracles deck, and more importantly, Thoughtseize is near the top of the list of cards I'd expect to see a reprint in Modern Masters.
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Sparki is dead-on for the first trade; I wouldn't touch Pile B.
For the second, both folks above me make good arguments; it depends on whether you're more likely to play white or black in the non-rotating formats. Terminus is a staple for UW Miracles, and Thoughtseize is a staple for most black decks in Legacy and Modern. Even if Thoughtseize gets a reprint in MM (which I think is likely), it likely won't tank in value.
I agree with Sparki on the first trade but not the second; while Terminus is seeing a lot of play in Standard, it's also a Legacy staple in the Miracles deck, and more importantly, Thoughtseize is near the top of the list of cards I'd expect to see a reprint in Modern Masters.
Sparki is dead-on for the first trade; I wouldn't touch Pile B.
For the second, both folks above me make good arguments; it depends on whether you're more likely to play white or black in the non-rotating formats. Terminus is a staple for UW Miracles, and Thoughtseize is a staple for most black decks in Legacy and Modern. Even if Thoughtseize gets a reprint in MM (which I think is likely), it likely won't tank in value.
My thing with Terminus is: It was $3-4 before the breakout of standard play. Do you think price memory will affect it to the point that it stays where it's at now? I can see it dropping to around $5-6.
I also agree with 'seize being reprinted in MM a high possibility, but a $5 drop in price at best.
My thing with Terminus is: It was $3-4 before the breakout of standard play. Do you think price memory will affect it to the point that it stays where it's at now? I can see it dropping to around $5-6.
Funny thing is; price memory is like a ratchet - it ticks up, but it always seems to "remember" its peak price long term. Jace the Mind Sculptor was 20-25 on release, but because it peaked at 105, that's where it seems to be trying to go again. If 9-10 is the norm through rotation, it might fall to 5, but it'll climb back up over time, and at least in Legacy, there really is no good substitute for it as a one mana sweeper along with Sensei's Diving Top and Brainstorm; at least Inquisition of Kozilek, Cabal Therapy, and Duress serve as inferior substitutes (in the economic definition of the term) for Thoughtseize, which is a damping effect on the price of 'Seize.
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Take the Judge Cradle and run. Judge Cradle is approaching $200 now, I see Pile B at least $25 short, not counting the fact that Tarmo is going to be reprinted, and Clique and Command could very well be in Modern Masters as well.
What do you need? Do you really need the judge cradle? It'll get harder and harder to find as you go on, so if you need it, pick it up now. Otherwise, I'd keep the playable staples.
A all the way. People have asked for mine every time they see it. Its around $250 and very hard to find. It sees play in Legacy and heavy demand in casual/EDH token/creature heavy decks
A all the way. People have asked for mine every time they see it. Its around $250 and very hard to find. It sees play in Legacy and heavy demand in casual/EDH token/creature heavy decks
Just to point something out. Starcitygames is selling several NM Judge Foil Cradles for $199.99, the average of the last 7 sales on ebay (not including a signed one) is ~$185. For those valuing it at $250, I am guessing that you are looking on TCG and that price simply is not close to accurate.
Does this affect some of your thoughts on the trade?
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I'm always looking for foil Madcap Skills and Ghitu Fire-Eater, [trade thread link forthcoming]
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$tandard: Too poor.
Modern:
- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
That seems about right to me. Also, for future reference, please try to keep this thread Pile A vs Pile B. Thanks!
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I'm gonna say pile B. While a foil Deathrite is pretty nice you'll have to find an avid player to get full value out of it. If you intend to play with it however I would be close to switch but think B is the overall better bet
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Pile A:
1 Underground Sea
Some fillers worth 40 bucks or so
For
Pile B:
Gaea's Cradle [NM?]
Windswept Heath
Flooded Strand
I need Pile B for EDH, but as you know its an Underground Sea
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=499393 My Sales Thread
Seems fine. Cradles have been steady, and fetches are great to have.
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Honestly, this trade is fully dependent on the 40$ worth of fillers. If they are bulky/under $5 cards, this trade is awesome for you. If they are 4 liquid $10 cards, it is a very fair trade. This is the kind of trade I would take for one of my Seas, I don't think you are doing badly.
vs
4 foil abrupt decay
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=499393 My Sales Thread
What do you guys think?
Pile A
NM Tropical Island
for
Geist of Saint Traft
Vendilion Clique
Scalding Tarn
2x Spell Snare
1x Arid Mesa
Mana Leak (8th) Foil
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=499393 My Sales Thread
I probably would've done it without the arid mesa, like stated above, you have like $90 in staple cards already, not including the snares.
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Appreciate the Feedback. I was the one getting pile B. I rarely want to give up Duals for non-dual piles, but my friend really wanted it, and kept offering better stuff.
I also have this offer..I haven't done it, but I want to know what you guys think..
Pile A
NM FOW
NM Cryptic Command
for
Pile B
Sword of Light and Shadow
Windswept Heath
Deathrite shaman
and
Pile A
3x Terminus
1x Supreme Verdict
1x Glacial Fortress
for
Pile B
NM ThoughtSeize
+ a few bulk rares (maybe)
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478
Trade 1 is Pile A for sure. Cryptic command is a great EDH and Modern card, and it's gone up a little bit in the past few months. Pile B is good too, but swords have seen a slight decline, and the fetch isn't super special.
Trade 2, I think pile B is the way to go. Terminus was hyped because of standard, and getting a Modern/Legacy staple seems good.
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$tandard: Too poor.
Modern:
- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
For the second, both folks above me make good arguments; it depends on whether you're more likely to play white or black in the non-rotating formats. Terminus is a staple for UW Miracles, and Thoughtseize is a staple for most black decks in Legacy and Modern. Even if Thoughtseize gets a reprint in MM (which I think is likely), it likely won't tank in value.
My thing with Terminus is: It was $3-4 before the breakout of standard play. Do you think price memory will affect it to the point that it stays where it's at now? I can see it dropping to around $5-6.
I also agree with 'seize being reprinted in MM a high possibility, but a $5 drop in price at best.
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Funny thing is; price memory is like a ratchet - it ticks up, but it always seems to "remember" its peak price long term. Jace the Mind Sculptor was 20-25 on release, but because it peaked at 105, that's where it seems to be trying to go again. If 9-10 is the norm through rotation, it might fall to 5, but it'll climb back up over time, and at least in Legacy, there really is no good substitute for it as a one mana sweeper along with Sensei's Diving Top and Brainstorm; at least Inquisition of Kozilek, Cabal Therapy, and Duress serve as inferior substitutes (in the economic definition of the term) for Thoughtseize, which is a damping effect on the price of 'Seize.
Went to a new shop from a friend's recommendation, DQ'ed for willful violation of CR 100.6b.
Have played duals? I have PucaPoints for them!
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$tandard: Too poor.
Modern:
- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
A:
1 Judge Foil Gaea's Cradle
B.
1 Tarmogoyf
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Cryptic Command
1 Seachrome Coast
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10498534#post10498534
Take the Judge Cradle and run. Judge Cradle is approaching $200 now, I see Pile B at least $25 short, not counting the fact that Tarmo is going to be reprinted, and Clique and Command could very well be in Modern Masters as well.
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Legacy
RUG DelverRUG
BUG DelverBUG
Modern
Good ol' fashioned JundBGR)[/I]
Standard
Too Boring
Commander
Azusa, Lost But SeekingG [I](foiling out)[/I]
What do you need? Do you really need the judge cradle? It'll get harder and harder to find as you go on, so if you need it, pick it up now. Otherwise, I'd keep the playable staples.
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A all the way. People have asked for mine every time they see it. Its around $250 and very hard to find. It sees play in Legacy and heavy demand in casual/EDH token/creature heavy decks
Just to point something out. Starcitygames is selling several NM Judge Foil Cradles for $199.99, the average of the last 7 sales on ebay (not including a signed one) is ~$185. For those valuing it at $250, I am guessing that you are looking on TCG and that price simply is not close to accurate.
Does this affect some of your thoughts on the trade?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10498534#post10498534