Well that sucks. I have 2 gigabytes of images that can never be used, now.(They were originally given to me for inspiration for D&D homebrew material, but, the website where I was using them took the same approach as these forums do. This sucks, royally.)
Hey I'm pretty good at artist recognition, if there is a piece of art that you'd really like to use, PM me with it and I'll see if I can make out the artist.
Zzapper - :symur::symur:
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Destroy target permanent with a Z in its name. I'm the Z zapper. I zap Z's. I really don't like Z's. I just don't. I mean, who needs them? Z's. pfffft.
Yup, I'm online at all hours, I'm an insomniac, what of it?
Well that sucks. I have 2 gigabytes of images that can never be used, now.(They were originally given to me for inspiration for D&D homebrew material, but, the website where I was using them took the same approach as these forums do. This sucks, royally.)
It's a legal issue that is understandable. Artists take the time to do what they do, they should be recognized for it.
That said, when MTG Salvation enacted that rule, I had to get rid of a ton of art as well. It takes awhile to compile a decent archive, it does hurt to get rid of much of it. You may be able to find your images on either Deviant or Epilogue. Those seem to be some of the largest art sites out there.
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Well that sucks. I have 2 gigabytes of images that can never be used, now.(They were originally given to me for inspiration for D&D homebrew material, but, the website where I was using them took the same approach as these forums do. This sucks, royally.)
I know how you feel. There used to a thread in the Artwork forum where people could post art. I used to go there to find some decent art. But we had to remove it since most of the art had no names attached to them. Like MotionPicture13 said, this is for legal reasons. I don't like to do it, but we don't want to get in trouble.
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Yeah, I know how it goes. I've slowly been building stuff back up for my D&D material with Deviantart, but I've got dial-up, so, it takes a while to get that done.
Rith: Ouch on the dialup. I know how it goes as I had that for a LONG time (I can't get Cable out there and satellite was horrid). We just recently got DSL out here! I was so happy!
It may not be cable, but its a *bleep* of a lot faster than dialup, so I feel your pain!
I had a feeling making a common for Round 4 of January was too hard.
Congratulations Jimmy, you made a good card! It strikes me as a sort of inverse Doran, the Siege Tower (though, being a Juggernaut, I think it should be an artifact creature).
I don't mean to be a wise-ass or anything with this, but while it's not my first time participating in the MCC, it's the first time I've seen points deducted on the presentation of the text version of the cards.
I don't say this to bash on The letter 3 in any way, but I always assumed as long as all the information was there and that it wasn't confusing, you couldn't lose points for putting the rarity next to the name instead of the type. I myself haven't been affected by it, but I still find it unfair that some judges deduct points in quality while others don't.
Can it be made clear in the rules whether or not you can lose points for that, and if you can, point the newer constestants to a sample text card?
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Some kind of witty comment should be here.
I'm sure you can think of something by yourself.
My thoughts on the issue are this: Uniform formatting of a text card exists so that readers can focus on analyzing the substance of a card rather than waste time searching for information. Imagine the chaos of not having a uniform format. In these examples, all the information is present, but the formatting is different:
1/1
—Llanowar penalty for trespassing One bone broken for every twig snapped underfoot. T: Add G to your mana pool.
Creature - Elf Druid (C) Llanowar Elves G
or
Llanowar ElvesG Creature - Elf Druid (C) T: Add G to your mana pool. One bone broken for every twig snapped underfoot. —Llanowar penalty for trespassing 1/1
So I think uniform formatting is a necessity. But I do agree with you that we should consider making this clear in the MCC Rules. Directing new players to a sample text card also sounds like a good idea.
I had a feeling making a common for Round 4 of January was too hard.
Congratulations Jimmy, you made a good card! It strikes me as a sort of inverse Doran, the Siege Tower (though, being a Juggernaut, I think it should be an artifact creature).
My view is similar to enLight's. There is a standard format, everybody uses it, everybody knows it. It's the following:
CARDNAME [manacost]
Card Type — Subtype (Rarity)
Card text Flavor text
P/T
Of course having flavor not in italics, having a "-" instead of a "—" between type and subtype(s), or not using mana tags (thus having 2U instead of 2U) or something similar won't translate into losing points. Those are minor issues.
But if you change the thing completely, I'm with The_letter_3: points should be deducted. There is no reason to change the standard, and there is a standard because (as enLight points out) it's clearer and allows to focus on the card rather than search for info.
I agree with the fact that this could be specified on the MCC faqs, but then again, there is a Card Making FAQ as a sticky on the Custom Card Creation forums, where this is specified...
Man, I've been putting p/t before flavour text the whole time and no one ever complained. I should watch myself.
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Are all the judgings for the february contest up already?
I may have overlooked it, but I don't see unbrokencircle's judgings.. =(
The deadline for judges is tonight at midnight. However, there is an unusually large number of players this month, so it wouldn't surprise me if Round 2 was delayed a day or two.
But rest assured, the cards in your bracket will be judged.
The deadline for judges is tonight at midnight. However, there is an unusually large number of players this month, so it wouldn't surprise me if Round 2 was delayed a day or two.
But rest assured, the cards in your bracket will be judged.
enLight is a prophet. I'm going to have another chance tonight to work on mine, but it may be tomorrow morning before I finish. I've contacted ubc, and we'll see if he responds, but he hasn't even posted since the 5th, so there may be a conflict there.
Regardless, yes, you will get judgings, albeit they may be a little late.
Design (5/10)
Pumping your creatures’ toughness and increasing their survivability has been done before. This is a defensive spell that can’t be used defensively (i.e. when the opponent attacks you). It’s also unclear why white and blue would care about lands. I see little potential for this spell.
Development (5/10)
This card fits white and blue well enough (though land-matters is usually the realm of red and green). Considering this card is a sorcery, and that you have to spend an average of 5 mana to give +0/+1, it is underpowered. It should be an instant with a cost of :symwu:. The name and flavor text are adequate.
Polish
Challenge (2/2) – Both challenges met.
Quality (2/3) – The first line should be worded: “Reveal the top X cards of your library” and the second line should follow the first (forming one paragraph). The quoted person, “Prian,” should be one line below the quote.
Total: 14/25
1. Actually, going with the overall viability and cohesiveness of the card, Sapphire + Gems = From the ground/land = land matters.
EDIT (1a) - I would like to also bring up a point about 'land matters' with white/blue: Really any card with Landfall, and at last check, quite a few in both white and blue have it, so I don't see why you stated it. Again, just thought I would defend the whole use of lands aspect.
2. The name was actually below it in my MSE, for some odd reason it didn't apparently do such here.
Zzapper - :symur::symur:
Instant (R)
Destroy target permanent with a Z in its name. I'm the Z zapper. I zap Z's. I really don't like Z's. I just don't. I mean, who needs them? Z's. pfffft.
Yup, I'm online at all hours, I'm an insomniac, what of it?
EDIT (1a) - I would like to also bring up a point about 'land matters' with white/blue: Really any card with Landfall, and at last check, quite a few in both white and blue have it, so I don't see why you stated it. Again, just thought I would defend the whole use of lands aspect.
That may be true, but you're talking about Zendikar, the Land set. It's like saying blue gets direct damage because we've seen Psionic Blast in the past set (Time Spiral).
Unless your card was clearly linked to Zendikar and his flavor, one has to base itself on the ''basic'' unaltered, core-set-like if you will, identity of each color and your judge was right in saying lands are the domain of red and green.
When white cares about land, it's a matter of supply and demand. See Land Tax, Balance or Limited Ressources.
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I'm sure you can think of something by yourself.
First off, my judings for round 1 are complete. Still no word from unbrokencircle; the other organizers/judges and I will see what can be done about his pod.
Second, to catchup on some of the recent conversations:
I don't say this to bash on The letter 3 in any way, but I always assumed as long as all the information was there and that it wasn't confusing, you couldn't lose points for putting the rarity next to the name instead of the type. I myself haven't been affected by it, but I still find it unfair that some judges deduct points in quality while others don't.
Can it be made clear in the rules whether or not you can lose points for that, and if you can, point the newer constestants to a sample text card?
My personal preference is that different formatting should not result in point loss unless the formatting is undecipherable. I'm fine with noting preferences and recommending that players follow the standard in the future, but if a player from another site comes and wanders in (or even if a player just likes to format their cards differently), I don't think that points are warranted. I welcome players and (especially) judges to weigh in on this issue, and I'd be fine with establishing a ruling one way or the other. If we do go the "adhere to the standard or lose points" route, I would like the point loss to be extremely minimal.
My thoughts on the issue are this: Uniform formatting of a text card exists so that readers can focus on analyzing the substance of a card rather than waste time searching for information. Imagine the chaos of not having a uniform format. In these examples, all the information is present, but the formatting is different:
Yes, but the formatting you present is extreme, to say the least. All the real life examples that were affected were clear in intent (imo). And the card-making FAQ isn't forum rules, just recommendations.
2. The name was actually below it in my MSE, for some odd reason it didn't apparently do such here.
That's happened to me before with MSE, usually when I'm (guiltily) trying to squeeze just a little more flavor text onto a card without hitting microtext. The MSE-program view shows it just fine, but when you export it, it smushes the spacing.
That may be true, but you're talking about Zendikar, the Land set. It's like saying blue gets direct damage because we've seen Psionic Blast in the past set (Time Spiral).
Unless your card was clearly linked to Zendikar and his flavor, one has to base itself on the ''basic'' unaltered, core-set-like if you will, identity of each color and your judge was right in saying lands are the domain of red and green.
When white cares about land, it's a matter of supply and demand. See Land Tax, Balance or Limited Ressources.
True I am not going to say that my card wasn't bad, but if you want to bring up supply and demand I could also bring up Gift of Estates from Kawigama.
The above mentioned cards are not from Zen and have either close or near to the land matters theme from Zen. So again, I'm not going to argue the fact of reviewing my card that yes, even I noticed a few ... flaws, but again it's just the vague statement that land doesn't matter to white/blue.
Also- Does it have to produce tokens not of the color of the spell, or does it just have to be able to? For example, a spell like Spitting Image, where it can produce a token fo the same color, but not always.
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It's a legal issue that is understandable. Artists take the time to do what they do, they should be recognized for it.
That said, when MTG Salvation enacted that rule, I had to get rid of a ton of art as well. It takes awhile to compile a decent archive, it does hurt to get rid of much of it. You may be able to find your images on either Deviant or Epilogue. Those seem to be some of the largest art sites out there.
"Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against Stupidity"
I know how you feel. There used to a thread in the Artwork forum where people could post art. I used to go there to find some decent art. But we had to remove it since most of the art had no names attached to them. Like MotionPicture13 said, this is for legal reasons. I don't like to do it, but we don't want to get in trouble.
Anyways, it's Judgement Day.
It may not be cable, but its a *bleep* of a lot faster than dialup, so I feel your pain!
There was some seriously tight competition, though, which made it better. Good job everyone. See ya in the next one.
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My Februrary round 1 judgings are complete.
Congratulations Jimmy, you made a good card! It strikes me as a sort of inverse Doran, the Siege Tower (though, being a Juggernaut, I think it should be an artifact creature).
My February Round 1 judgings are complete. Feel free to PM me any questions or comments.
Commander: Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer WU
I don't say this to bash on The letter 3 in any way, but I always assumed as long as all the information was there and that it wasn't confusing, you couldn't lose points for putting the rarity next to the name instead of the type. I myself haven't been affected by it, but I still find it unfair that some judges deduct points in quality while others don't.
Can it be made clear in the rules whether or not you can lose points for that, and if you can, point the newer constestants to a sample text card?
I'm sure you can think of something by yourself.
1/1
—Llanowar penalty for trespassing
One bone broken for every twig snapped underfoot.
T: Add G to your mana pool.
Creature - Elf Druid (C)
Llanowar Elves G
or
Llanowar Elves G Creature - Elf Druid (C) T: Add G to your mana pool. One bone broken for every twig snapped underfoot. —Llanowar penalty for trespassing 1/1
Commander: Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer WU
Wow, my first perfect score. Thanks.
Man, I've been putting p/t before flavour text the whole time and no one ever complained. I should watch myself.
I may have overlooked it, but I don't see unbrokencircle's judgings.. =(
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The deadline for judges is tonight at midnight. However, there is an unusually large number of players this month, so it wouldn't surprise me if Round 2 was delayed a day or two.
But rest assured, the cards in your bracket will be judged.
Commander: Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer WU
enLight is a prophet. I'm going to have another chance tonight to work on mine, but it may be tomorrow morning before I finish. I've contacted ubc, and we'll see if he responds, but he hasn't even posted since the 5th, so there may be a conflict there.
Regardless, yes, you will get judgings, albeit they may be a little late.
1. Actually, going with the overall viability and cohesiveness of the card, Sapphire + Gems = From the ground/land = land matters.
EDIT (1a) - I would like to also bring up a point about 'land matters' with white/blue: Really any card with Landfall, and at last check, quite a few in both white and blue have it, so I don't see why you stated it. Again, just thought I would defend the whole use of lands aspect.
2. The name was actually below it in my MSE, for some odd reason it didn't apparently do such here.
Other than that, good luck everyone else!
That may be true, but you're talking about Zendikar, the Land set. It's like saying blue gets direct damage because we've seen Psionic Blast in the past set (Time Spiral).
Unless your card was clearly linked to Zendikar and his flavor, one has to base itself on the ''basic'' unaltered, core-set-like if you will, identity of each color and your judge was right in saying lands are the domain of red and green.
When white cares about land, it's a matter of supply and demand. See Land Tax, Balance or Limited Ressources.
I'm sure you can think of something by yourself.
Second, to catchup on some of the recent conversations:
My personal preference is that different formatting should not result in point loss unless the formatting is undecipherable. I'm fine with noting preferences and recommending that players follow the standard in the future, but if a player from another site comes and wanders in (or even if a player just likes to format their cards differently), I don't think that points are warranted. I welcome players and (especially) judges to weigh in on this issue, and I'd be fine with establishing a ruling one way or the other. If we do go the "adhere to the standard or lose points" route, I would like the point loss to be extremely minimal.
Yes, but the formatting you present is extreme, to say the least. All the real life examples that were affected were clear in intent (imo). And the card-making FAQ isn't forum rules, just recommendations.
That's happened to me before with MSE, usually when I'm (guiltily) trying to squeeze just a little more flavor text onto a card without hitting microtext. The MSE-program view shows it just fine, but when you export it, it smushes the spacing.
True I am not going to say that my card wasn't bad, but if you want to bring up supply and demand I could also bring up Gift of Estates from Kawigama.
But I can also say from that same (and other) sets: Harsh Deceiver, Path to Exile, Prophecy, and Weathered Wayfarer
The above mentioned cards are not from Zen and have either close or near to the land matters theme from Zen. So again, I'm not going to argue the fact of reviewing my card that yes, even I noticed a few ... flaws, but again it's just the vague statement that land doesn't matter to white/blue.
While I'm at it, can a green card produce a green/red token?
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