It is against the integrity of the game to not play. The idea of the structure is that everyone plays to win so that everyone gets a fair shot at getting the top eight. If there are only eight spots, and this person needs the win to make it, then that means that there are others who also need a win to get into the top eight. Conceding just so that person will make it is not awkward like playing would be, but scooping will deprive the others fighting for that last spot from an fair shot at making it.
There are others that are affected by your decision to not play. Even though playing him after he asks for a concession is incredibly awkward, it is your responsibility to play to keep the integrity of the game intact. Most people do not see the others that would be affected when they make the choice to concede; they only see of the person in front of them. Is it right or fair to give this one person a free entry into the top eight when there is at least one person (and depending on the size of the event, maybe even 10 or more) who needs a win and your opponent to lose in order to make it? It is not right at all to concede.
Its really funny how people who have never been in the upper echelon of play experience view upper tier play and more than likely won't ever see this possition have such a strong feeling about it. Let alone if they ever do get to top tier play where these things matter they will flip to the other side of the table and expect the scoop.
Yes I get it that inexperienced players don't get it, strictly because they arn't there at that position every week trying to stradle the top 8 slots. But once you start to stay near top tables you know most of your opponents at the end and expect the step out of the way as it more than likely comes back to you in one way or another.
Do I feel the OP should have scooped? Yes entirely. Do I know what should happen for the top players during the last 2 rounds of any tourney, yes entirely.
What next people going to ask that draws be taken out of the game so people can't draw into top 8, did those people not earn their spot either? How is it different? They arn't playing their last rounds either.
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Ok, Ill use that as the frame too:
How about two players that play slowly, and the match ends in the scenario that one will innevitably win, but hasnt yet. You think its ok for rest of the field that they pin the win on one of them ?
Knowing when to call a Judge is a skill at higher rels. Asking for a free win is not.
Man up, play the game, and keep calling the judges untill you dont dare anymore.
I would conceade in such a situation. Mostly becuase in my play group thats sort of the norm and it goes both ways. All top 8 get credit in our store so its not so bad. Futher more it builds good will with other players (who may be more favorable to you in later trades, Naturely not a bribe just people who "like" you tend to more resonable on value differences.
To thoughs of you saying that you denied some other player from top 8ing is it not possable that THEY just didn't win enough rounds to be in a position to top eight on their own merrits? You walked in with a stronger base, Victory is Victory.
If you have nothing to gain, why not concede? I was at FNM recently where I got paired down against an opponent who had a draw. Our match went to game 3 and came out to a draw as well, although if I had one more turn, I would have definitely killed him, and he knew it. I asked him to concede to me, since he would be ineligible for prize with 2 draws, and it would put me at 2-0. However, he declined, took the draw, and went on to receive no prize, just like I said. I wound up in the draw bracket stuck playing against durdly decks because of him and his slow play.
Yeah, I'd never scumf*** my opponent like that if I had nothing to gain. The correct thing to do is concede.
I believe that I have enough social competence to slip into a party or two, potentially wooing some attractive females that would not mind spending the evening performing the booty dance on me.
If you have nothing to gain, why not concede? I was at FNM recently where I got paired down against an opponent who had a draw. Our match went to game 3 and came out to a draw as well, although if I had one more turn, I would have definitely killed him, and he knew it. I asked him to concede to me, since he would be ineligible for prize with 2 draws, and it would put me at 2-0. However, he declined, took the draw, and went on to receive no prize, just like I said. I wound up in the draw bracket stuck playing against durdly decks because of him and his slow play.
Yeah, I'd never scumf*** my opponent like that if I had nothing to gain. The correct thing to do is concede.
you screw the other guy that would've won if you gave your opponent a free win.
There isn't a correct answer, I'd personally never concede though.
By conceding to let one player into the Top 8, you're keeping another player out. If you want to let your friend in, go ahead, but if you don't know your opponent then there's no reason to allow him to make the top 8 while another player doesn't.
If you have nothing to gain, why not concede? I was at FNM recently where I got paired down against an opponent who had a draw. Our match went to game 3 and came out to a draw as well, although if I had one more turn, I would have definitely killed him, and he knew it. I asked him to concede to me, since he would be ineligible for prize with 2 draws, and it would put me at 2-0. However, he declined, took the draw, and went on to receive no prize, just like I said. I wound up in the draw bracket stuck playing against durdly decks because of him and his slow play.
Yeah, I'd never scumf*** my opponent like that if I had nothing to gain. The correct thing to do is concede.
If its your friend then yeah. Dick move.
Otherwise its never wrong to play out a match instead of conceding. I came there to play and Imma play. Only time I concede a match is when I know I can tie someone for 1st or 2nd by aggrign to a tie.
That player needs to just play out the game. If he does loose to you and you couldn't make the top 8 then he wouldn't have stood a chance.
to quote what someone said to me before
"The rules are the rules from table 1 to the Championship." I mean.....if your not gonna make the top 8 and you bow out after loosing your 2 first matches then why not just leave and let all your opponents after that get free 2-0 passes? That would be wrong by most people's count.
At the last round of a GP trial several months ago, I was paired against somebody who had more points than me. Apparently if he won against me he would be in the top 8 cutoff. I knew that I wouldn't advance if I won. Despite all that, he asked me to concede and I refused. I wanted to play and earn planeswalker points. I saw that I made him angry by refusing to give up automatically.
That player ended up winning against me anyway and thus advanced to the top 8. Him and his friends bothered me later on about not conceding earlier; they said that it's wrong to hold somebody back just because you can't make it to top 8 anymore. In my opinion, if I let a player advance into higher standings without a challenge, then that can bump somebody else down, somebody who actually played their match and won.
I feel that it is wrong to concede to a player just because they are higher in the standings. Let me know if you agree or disagree with me because I could be the one who is wrong.
I agree with you 100%! There are some entitled players that will re-use the excuse "you just don't understand" when faced with ethical reasons why it is not wrong to not concede. I have had too many pointless forum arguments with a couple of these people for me to go in to detail about the ethics, but rest assured that you are in the right. Top 8 is a place for people who have honestly and earnestly played their matches to their conclusion, not for people who think they have more right to be there than the other guy who you just bumped.
In order to get top 8 all you have to do is play the game, if you really are as good as you say then it should be no problem. I have heard a couple of these people argue that they just got bad luck, but luck is equal opportunity and effect all. The truth is that there is a luck factor in this game, but skill and card quality by far make up for it if you take the long view. You do not deserve special treatment, and if Wizards could implement a rule to deal with conceding in to top 8 in a good way, they would do it in a heartbeat.
Things that hurt Magic: The Gathering as being an actual competitive game?
One: Gaining advantages by not actually being forced to play the game at any point.
Two: Not having enough sportsmanship to know why concessions have no business being in any level of competitive play. There is a very big difference between scooping on a board position you can't win from and just going "can we simply not play at all"?
Three: Not actually coming up with something better to fix the flaws in a Swiss format ranking system.
It's a game that should be played and not conceding is the proper and honorable thing to do. Not where politicking at the final tables of the day is encouraged and rewarded on a regular basis. You can argue that you don't understand it all you want, but from an ethical standpoint and sportsmanship fundamentals you are 100% wrong.
Go watch cricket sometime. Where you can get ostracized from the playing community for doing things like asking for concessions or doing dishonorable things that hurt the integrity of the game.
But yeah...we're pretty much stuck with the mentality of: it exists...let's abuse it as much as possible. So what's that say about the game in general?
There are reasons I don't play Magic competitively anymore. Not because I can't win or don't have the capabilities - I just choose to go and do less tainted competitive things with my time.
Competitive Magic is full of hollow victories. If the tournament floor rules were changed to disallow concessions without playing the game we would see a whole new level of competition. Until the DCI does something about the politicking I'll keep playing FNMs. It can get pretty bad at that level as well but simply your agreeing to a 'may the best man win' duel.
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I'm not certain I understand the relevance of conceding to PWP, as I have not actually played since their introduction. Is it worth more if your opponent concedes than if you would have won normally?
That said. I actually hate it when my opponent concedes. If my opponent concedes, that means my deck is doing well. I hate it when I'm not allowed to play through when my deck finally does what it's supposed to do.
I actually hate it when my opponent concedes. If my opponent concedes, that means my deck is doing well. I hate it when I'm not allowed to play through when my deck finally does what it's supposed to do.
At higher rels on-board concession isnt something to grumble about when a player decides he doesnt have a chance and concedes. Thats my opinion at least.
At regular rel in-game concessions sometimes have an anti-social aspect to it that experienced players should know inexperienced players may find rude/hostile/whatever. Yadiyadida, yes we can discuss this. But noone can refute the stupidness/unwelcomeness/detrimental-to-the-idea-of-regular-rel when they also end the match on a curse-word note (not to mention those who also have to explain "why their loss shouldnt have happened", directly to the new players face, in negative fashion, enticing discussions they know SO WELL the inexperienced player doesnt have a chance to ride along with (because it takes alot of exp/years to map the mtg-terrain)).
Idiots, and they cost WotC money, and they cost us new competitors (that some of them would be really good).
The thing in the background:
Do you want to compete with players that dont know how layers, prio and state-based actions work - and win alot of colorful boosters locally ?
Or do you want to compete with many players just as good as you and only win once ina while ?
The solution isnt to increase variance in the game at least, we want the opposite, I hope people can agree on that.
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Unless you play enough magic that the pwp are relevant (based on your OP I'll assume they are not, anyone grinding enough pwp to be relevant would scoop anyways), it's a douche move to not scoop when you stand to gain nothing and he stands to gain something.
This ainec, if I am in his position then I would expect my opponent to scoop too
Competitive magic costs time and money, flying 1k miles+ just to have a guy not scoop when he has not chance is retarded. Ppl saying 'well the other ppl it affects' well **** happens, tiebreakers are a part of the game (I have been there and know how it feels to get 9th for the nth time but that was my fault for losing in the 1st round). Not scooping in this spot just creates more unnecessary variance for the guy where u have nothing to gain.
Put your ego aside ppl and just scoop in this spot.
Put your ego aside ppl and just scoop in this spot.
Yea, put your ego aside and feed mine! How selfish can you be to not let me win?
Actually scooping creates the variance, since the expected outcome is that the person that wins is the person that played best, not the person that pressured their opponent to concede. You say that playing competitively costs time and money, but that is the same for everyone- even if you paid more money because you came farther away that does not make you more deserving. Additionally, what time are you saving by having you opponent concede? You still have to wait the same amount of time till the next match.
Yea, put your ego aside and feed mine! How selfish can you be to not let me win?
Actually scooping creates the variance, since the expected outcome is that the person that wins is the person that played best, not the person that pressured their opponent to concede. You say that playing competitively costs time and money, but that is the same for everyone- even if you paid more money because you came farther away that does not make you more deserving. Additionally, what time are you saving by having you opponent concede? You still have to wait the same amount of time till the next match.
How selfish are you to purposefully play to try to solely dream crush your opponent? Seriously the only thing your playing for is to hatefully keep your opponent out of top 8 because you can't either, amazing logic. You going to go slap the candy out of a kids hands because you don't have it either? Seriously this is the logic route your following...
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How selfish are you to purposefully play to try to solely dream crush your opponent? Seriously the only thing your playing for is to hatefully keep your opponent out of top 8 because you can't either, amazing logic. You going to go slap the candy out of a kids hands because you don't have it either? Seriously this is the logic route your following...
Huh? How is making people earn top 8 spots any bit similar to slapping candy out of a kids hand? There are the same number of people in the top 8 regardless of whether someone scoops to you or not. Does playing against me really make you more deserving of top 8 than someone else?
Say the New York Yankees and the Baltimore Orioles are playing the final game of the season. If the Yankees win, they make the playoffs. If they lose, the Boston Red Sox make it instead. The Orioles are in last place and unaffected either way. Is forfeiting the game the right things for the Orioles to do here?
You came to play, so play. If you truly deserve to be in the Top 8, prove it.
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Dream crush the opponent? Are you honestly trying to say in a scenario where you can't top 8, but another random player can (circumstances completely change for friends), you should concede to him solely on that reason? Forget that. If you are on the verge of top 8'ing an event that has any relevance, try acting like a competitive player and you know...compete.
To those of you saying its a "douche" thing to not scoop to someone if they can top 8 and you can't, I say if you can't win the match, you don't deserve to be there in the first place. This is really the only thing I hate about competitive magic; allowing intentional concessions. If you call yourself a competitive magic player, you should be acting like one.
If you have nothing to gain, why not concede? I was at FNM recently where I got paired down against an opponent who had a draw. Our match went to game 3 and came out to a draw as well, although if I had one more turn, I would have definitely killed him, and he knew it. I asked him to concede to me, since he would be ineligible for prize with 2 draws, and it would put me at 2-0. However, he declined, took the draw, and went on to receive no prize, just like I said. I wound up in the draw bracket stuck playing against durdly decks because of him and his slow play.
Yeah, I'd never scumf*** my opponent like that if I had nothing to gain. The correct thing to do is concede.
It used to actually matter when DCI ratings were involved, especially at PTQs. Not so much now. Especially at FNM.
How selfish are you to purposefully play to try to solely dream crush your opponent? Seriously the only thing your playing for is to hatefully keep your opponent out of top 8 because you can't either, amazing logic. You going to go slap the candy out of a kids hands because you don't have it either? Seriously this is the logic route your following...
Selfish? Coming from you...that is rich. You have repeatedly argued that you deserve to get to top 8 over the person that would be there by pure play, so I find it hypocritical for you to call others "selfish". You are saying that the other guy that you bump through concession deserves no consideration, but it is selfish for me to not concede to you. How about we use the same rules of social behavior for everyone, rather than just giving you preferential treatment. I play the game to win, and I expect no less out of my opponent. I do not believe I deserve any placement other than that I have played for, and expect my opponent to be as honest in their playing.
Haha, I'm willing to bet something like 70% of the people saying not to scoop highest playing experience in magic is like winning an fnm. That is not the setting this question is relevent to. I'm even willing to bet less than half of the remaining 30% who have played a ptq have never even gotten close to top8ing a ptq to where this is even a real situation to be questioned. Not even going to mention anyone who even day 2's a gp, let alone ques for a pro tour lol. So yes im saying more than 85% of the comments in this thread are uneducated players who have no experience in the situation to even begin to have any grounds to stand on to back their opinion. Other than "i can't make top 8 so Im going to try to stop you from top8 ing also".
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I will play what wins, not what is convenient. Personal preference is nothing, The win is all that matters. I will netdeck at every opportunity, but I will not let that stifle my creativity. Style points do not appear on tournament reports. A good deck with an incompetent pilot is nothing more than a dressed up match win. I will crush my opponent mercilessly, and expect no less from him. Victory is its own reward, The prize is just a bonus.
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Whether or not you've "been in that position to have ground to stand on" is completely irrelevant to the question at hand on whether it is wrong to concede. Sportsmanship and ethics are fundamental to the question of right vs. wrong in any kind of competitive environment.
Also - if you're good enough to be in position to top 8 a major tournament, than surely you're confident enough in your own game skills to beat your opponent. In fact...I'll even use your own stupid sig lines against you:
"I will crush my opponent mercilessly, and expect no less from him."
Seems to me if that is something you are truly standing behind you should play EVERY game as hard as possible.
Even if it means you have no chance of making top 8 but your opponent does.
Or does that line somehow exempt the idea of "dream crushing" somebody by "taking their candy away from them" because you can't beat them to earn your spot without asking less from them (that would be a concession)?
How many times in competition has a meaningless team with no chance to make post-season play spoiled the play-off run of another much better, much more deserving team?
Norfolk State and Lehigh anybody?
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There are others that are affected by your decision to not play. Even though playing him after he asks for a concession is incredibly awkward, it is your responsibility to play to keep the integrity of the game intact. Most people do not see the others that would be affected when they make the choice to concede; they only see of the person in front of them. Is it right or fair to give this one person a free entry into the top eight when there is at least one person (and depending on the size of the event, maybe even 10 or more) who needs a win and your opponent to lose in order to make it? It is not right at all to concede.
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Ok, Ill use that as the frame too:
How about two players that play slowly, and the match ends in the scenario that one will innevitably win, but hasnt yet. You think its ok for rest of the field that they pin the win on one of them ?
Knowing when to call a Judge is a skill at higher rels. Asking for a free win is not.
Man up, play the game, and keep calling the judges untill you dont dare anymore.
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To thoughs of you saying that you denied some other player from top 8ing is it not possable that THEY just didn't win enough rounds to be in a position to top eight on their own merrits? You walked in with a stronger base, Victory is Victory.
Yeah, I'd never scumf*** my opponent like that if I had nothing to gain. The correct thing to do is concede.
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you screw the other guy that would've won if you gave your opponent a free win.
There isn't a correct answer, I'd personally never concede though.
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If its your friend then yeah. Dick move.
Otherwise its never wrong to play out a match instead of conceding. I came there to play and Imma play. Only time I concede a match is when I know I can tie someone for 1st or 2nd by aggrign to a tie.
That player needs to just play out the game. If he does loose to you and you couldn't make the top 8 then he wouldn't have stood a chance.
to quote what someone said to me before
"The rules are the rules from table 1 to the Championship." I mean.....if your not gonna make the top 8 and you bow out after loosing your 2 first matches then why not just leave and let all your opponents after that get free 2-0 passes? That would be wrong by most people's count.
I was going for a goal of 300 points and I wanted the win. I won, the guy asked one last time, I said no and I reported
Story over.
In order to get top 8 all you have to do is play the game, if you really are as good as you say then it should be no problem. I have heard a couple of these people argue that they just got bad luck, but luck is equal opportunity and effect all. The truth is that there is a luck factor in this game, but skill and card quality by far make up for it if you take the long view. You do not deserve special treatment, and if Wizards could implement a rule to deal with conceding in to top 8 in a good way, they would do it in a heartbeat.
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One: Gaining advantages by not actually being forced to play the game at any point.
Two: Not having enough sportsmanship to know why concessions have no business being in any level of competitive play. There is a very big difference between scooping on a board position you can't win from and just going "can we simply not play at all"?
Three: Not actually coming up with something better to fix the flaws in a Swiss format ranking system.
It's a game that should be played and not conceding is the proper and honorable thing to do. Not where politicking at the final tables of the day is encouraged and rewarded on a regular basis. You can argue that you don't understand it all you want, but from an ethical standpoint and sportsmanship fundamentals you are 100% wrong.
Go watch cricket sometime. Where you can get ostracized from the playing community for doing things like asking for concessions or doing dishonorable things that hurt the integrity of the game.
But yeah...we're pretty much stuck with the mentality of: it exists...let's abuse it as much as possible. So what's that say about the game in general?
There are reasons I don't play Magic competitively anymore. Not because I can't win or don't have the capabilities - I just choose to go and do less tainted competitive things with my time.
For a more colorful metaphor: Two gentlemen from the 18th century are having a duel of honor. The stakes of the duel are high, one of them ask the other to shoot himself in the face because he can better put to use the disputed property. Would you shoot yourself in the face because your opponent could have a better chance at life?
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That said. I actually hate it when my opponent concedes. If my opponent concedes, that means my deck is doing well. I hate it when I'm not allowed to play through when my deck finally does what it's supposed to do.
At regular rel in-game concessions sometimes have an anti-social aspect to it that experienced players should know inexperienced players may find rude/hostile/whatever. Yadiyadida, yes we can discuss this. But noone can refute the stupidness/unwelcomeness/detrimental-to-the-idea-of-regular-rel when they also end the match on a curse-word note (not to mention those who also have to explain "why their loss shouldnt have happened", directly to the new players face, in negative fashion, enticing discussions they know SO WELL the inexperienced player doesnt have a chance to ride along with (because it takes alot of exp/years to map the mtg-terrain)).
Idiots, and they cost WotC money, and they cost us new competitors (that some of them would be really good).
The thing in the background:
Do you want to compete with players that dont know how layers, prio and state-based actions work - and win alot of colorful boosters locally ?
Or do you want to compete with many players just as good as you and only win once ina while ?
The solution isnt to increase variance in the game at least, we want the opposite, I hope people can agree on that.
Ahhh, I could go so many good places if I kept writing, but its enough for now I think :).
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This ainec, if I am in his position then I would expect my opponent to scoop too
Competitive magic costs time and money, flying 1k miles+ just to have a guy not scoop when he has not chance is retarded. Ppl saying 'well the other ppl it affects' well **** happens, tiebreakers are a part of the game (I have been there and know how it feels to get 9th for the nth time but that was my fault for losing in the 1st round). Not scooping in this spot just creates more unnecessary variance for the guy where u have nothing to gain.
Put your ego aside ppl and just scoop in this spot.
Actually scooping creates the variance, since the expected outcome is that the person that wins is the person that played best, not the person that pressured their opponent to concede. You say that playing competitively costs time and money, but that is the same for everyone- even if you paid more money because you came farther away that does not make you more deserving. Additionally, what time are you saving by having you opponent concede? You still have to wait the same amount of time till the next match.
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How selfish are you to purposefully play to try to solely dream crush your opponent? Seriously the only thing your playing for is to hatefully keep your opponent out of top 8 because you can't either, amazing logic. You going to go slap the candy out of a kids hands because you don't have it either? Seriously this is the logic route your following...
Personal preference is nothing, The win is all that matters.
I will netdeck at every opportunity, but I will not let that stifle my creativity.
Style points do not appear on tournament reports.
A good deck with an incompetent pilot is nothing more than a dressed up match win.
I will crush my opponent mercilessly, and expect no less from him.
Victory is its own reward, The prize is just a bonus.
Legacy is dying
Huh? How is making people earn top 8 spots any bit similar to slapping candy out of a kids hand? There are the same number of people in the top 8 regardless of whether someone scoops to you or not. Does playing against me really make you more deserving of top 8 than someone else?
You came to play, so play. If you truly deserve to be in the Top 8, prove it.
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To those of you saying its a "douche" thing to not scoop to someone if they can top 8 and you can't, I say if you can't win the match, you don't deserve to be there in the first place. This is really the only thing I hate about competitive magic; allowing intentional concessions. If you call yourself a competitive magic player, you should be acting like one.
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Personal preference is nothing, The win is all that matters.
I will netdeck at every opportunity, but I will not let that stifle my creativity.
Style points do not appear on tournament reports.
A good deck with an incompetent pilot is nothing more than a dressed up match win.
I will crush my opponent mercilessly, and expect no less from him.
Victory is its own reward, The prize is just a bonus.
Legacy is dying
Also - if you're good enough to be in position to top 8 a major tournament, than surely you're confident enough in your own game skills to beat your opponent. In fact...I'll even use your own stupid sig lines against you:
"I will crush my opponent mercilessly, and expect no less from him."
Seems to me if that is something you are truly standing behind you should play EVERY game as hard as possible.
Even if it means you have no chance of making top 8 but your opponent does.
Or does that line somehow exempt the idea of "dream crushing" somebody by "taking their candy away from them" because you can't beat them to earn your spot without asking less from them (that would be a concession)?
How many times in competition has a meaningless team with no chance to make post-season play spoiled the play-off run of another much better, much more deserving team?
Norfolk State and Lehigh anybody?