So I just got called a 'netdecking *******' on cockatrice in a game of legacy while playing my affinity deck.
After playing affinity for about 6 or 7 months and still making changes to my own list, I couldn't help but be a bit upset after being called a net-decker. Admittedly, almost every deck I've played since I started playing was based off an original list, but affinity is incredibly difficult to win with nowadays in Legacy, so I began creating my own build as soon as I began to play with it. After working really hard and playtesting with it, I've built it quite a bit different from most other affinity lists I have seen. Case in point, I didn't copy any list I had ever seen for the deck. Moral of the story: don't call someone a netdecker unless they told you specifically "I'm playing the same list I saw *insert scg or mtgs location*".
Just had to get that off my chest. I'm pretty sure there's a difference between net-decking and building a deck based off a proven strategy.
On a side note, anyone know any sort of deck that uses Tolarian Entrancer?
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Really people are stupid, and this is amplified over the internet.
I've been called a netdecker for playing Painter's Servant in modern. I've been told to play a real deck when I played a netdecked Imperial Painter in legacy. (I like Painter's Servant...)
It does hurt when someone insults your integrity, especially for something you worked hard on but if nothing else take it as a compliment. Really, if he thought you netdecked than to somebody your deck is so good that you had to have stolen it from a highly skilled player. So what if he doesn't mean it like that? Seeing as you made the deck, that's what it comes down to.
The guy was likely just angry for losing it happens I tend to be polite when testing my decks
There is nothing wrong with netdecking and you shouldn't be called out just because you may have netdecked (even if you didn't)
Affinity especially is a deck everyone will assume you netdecked because yes a lot of Affinity decks look similar, but there are usually differences in every build (I run Canonist in the main for example and Factories)
As for the netdecking vs Archetype building, usually people start with a netdeck and tune it finely so that while the deck they netted off of looks similar it is their own variation on the deck
Side Note: Which version of Affinity? I have wanted to test the Glimpse build for awhile and still unsure on its power and consistency vs Tezz builds
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I tend to get the opposite reaction. I've found many people don't want to play against strangebrew.dec on Cockatrice/MWS because they're testing their decks against what they expect to face, and rightfully so, really. When I'm on Cockatrice, I'm playing to find out what my RUG matchup is like, or testing to see how I can play better against Miracles. If someone's come up with a interesting deck that works, good for them, but I'm never going to see them in an actual tournament, so I don't really want to play against that deck.
As a funny story though, I once go called a netdecker for playing NourishingLich combo in legacy, which goes to show people who accuse of netdecking have no clue what a format's meta is actually like.
Its hilarious, on cockatrice some guy yelled at me for netdecking "That Dredge thing that guy made on Mtgsal". I mean, I don't netdeck, but I don't complain when people do. of course plenty of times I prefer people net deck, as long as its not jund, thank you cockatrice, we've established that Jund is a good m/u. Can we play storm or Ninja's or another bad m/u now? Of course when I play legacy, people tell me to netdeck more because apparently Meathooks is dead.
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I was once called a 'net-decking *******' at FNM a few years back. This happened in a Jund Ramp mirror match and the only real difference between our decks was that he was using Madrush Cyclops and I was using Garruk Wildspeaker. I thought it was ironic since this kid shows up with a Jund deck once it started becoming popular.
Not too long after that, I was told I was using a jank deck by a Faeries player...
Well in all fairness, it probably was a jank deck compared to faeries.
It was.
I was new to standard when Shards was released and I threw together a deck with Demigods and some Broodmate Dragons because those were the coolest things ever. Most of the other FNM players gave me advice on how to improve the deck and what to cut and eventually it could hold its own. The two I mentioned bothered me a little at the time, but now I look back and laugh about it.
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I was new to standard when Shards was released and I threw together a deck with Demigods and some Broodmate Dragons because those were the coolest things ever. Most of the other FNM players gave me advice on how to improve the deck and what to cut and eventually it could hold its own. The two I mentioned bothered me a little at the time, but now I look back and laugh about it.
This happened to me when I was new to Standard as well (around New Phyrexia) I liked Mono Black and built some weird thing, eventually the deck became a Mono Black Infect deck (which was awesome to play when Rotation happened and I added more removal)
Ive had similar issues with people on Cockatrice telling me to "LEARN TO PLAY A REAL ****ING DECK"
When playing Affinity in Modern. This guy then sent me a message on Cockatrice insulting me so a few of my friends and I kept joining his games with Affinity decks. It was fun.
I have experienced many things like this on cockatrice, notably being called a net decker just around the time Todd Anderson won the SCG open with UWr miracles. I had built UWr control once rotation happened, and was being flamed for net decking a deck that I built long before it was well known. Also I was playing Nivmizzet as a win con as apposed to entreat. It still irks me how narrow minded some ppl are on online games.
As a bonus I had a player kick me for using turn 1 Gixtaxian Probe.
People get butthurt when they lose, and they take it out on you when they've got their anonymity blanket to keep them safe. Don't take it personally. The internet isn't really serious business.
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If that's your "casual," what on earth is required for "formal," a butler in livery shuffling the decks whilst a pianist plays Brahms in front of a tapestry?
You, net decked... who cares. lets move on, no sense getting sensitive about it.
No, you see, thats what I'm trying to argue: I wasn't net decking, I was playing my own build of affinity. But I already have moved on, I just wanted to make a point
No, you see, thats what I'm trying to argue: I wasn't net decking, I was playing my own build of affinity. But I already have moved on, I just wanted to make a point
I think the problem is that the person who accused you of net-decking has a different definition of net-decking than you do. While you are using the term in it's narrow (and strictly correct) sense of directly copying and pasting a list from the "net," you opponent is using the term in it's broader (and strictly incorrect) sense of copying the concept of your deck from the "net" while making minor adjustments of your own.
When someone like that accuses you of net-decking, I don't think your response should be "I wasn't net-decking." Rather, you should say that net-decking isn't a valid accusation at all.
Just a note: After leaving the game for more than a decade and coming back this year, "net-decking" on cockatrice has ultimately made me a better player. By playing, and playing against for that matter, top decks I have truly became a better player. Top decks are top decks because they are perfectly balanced and have the correct answers for a certain tier's meta. If it wasn't for "net decking" it would have taken me so much longer to properly learn how to build and play. Now I'm just bad instead of horrible.
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After playing affinity for about 6 or 7 months and still making changes to my own list, I couldn't help but be a bit upset after being called a net-decker. Admittedly, almost every deck I've played since I started playing was based off an original list, but affinity is incredibly difficult to win with nowadays in Legacy, so I began creating my own build as soon as I began to play with it. After working really hard and playtesting with it, I've built it quite a bit different from most other affinity lists I have seen. Case in point, I didn't copy any list I had ever seen for the deck. Moral of the story: don't call someone a netdecker unless they told you specifically "I'm playing the same list I saw *insert scg or mtgs location*".
Just had to get that off my chest. I'm pretty sure there's a difference between net-decking and building a deck based off a proven strategy.
On a side note, anyone know any sort of deck that uses Tolarian Entrancer?
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Really people are stupid, and this is amplified over the internet.
I've been called a netdecker for playing Painter's Servant in modern. I've been told to play a real deck when I played a netdecked Imperial Painter in legacy. (I like Painter's Servant...)
It does hurt when someone insults your integrity, especially for something you worked hard on but if nothing else take it as a compliment. Really, if he thought you netdecked than to somebody your deck is so good that you had to have stolen it from a highly skilled player. So what if he doesn't mean it like that? Seeing as you made the deck, that's what it comes down to.
There is nothing wrong with netdecking and you shouldn't be called out just because you may have netdecked (even if you didn't)
Affinity especially is a deck everyone will assume you netdecked because yes a lot of Affinity decks look similar, but there are usually differences in every build (I run Canonist in the main for example and Factories)
As for the netdecking vs Archetype building, usually people start with a netdeck and tune it finely so that while the deck they netted off of looks similar it is their own variation on the deck
Side Note: Which version of Affinity? I have wanted to test the Glimpse build for awhile and still unsure on its power and consistency vs Tezz builds
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As a funny story though, I once go called a netdecker for playing Nourishing Lich combo in legacy, which goes to show people who accuse of netdecking have no clue what a format's meta is actually like.
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It's a tezz build. If you're gonna play glimpse you might as well play some sort of combo, IMO.
Also, did anyone answer my question about the tolarian entracer?
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...I wish there were other good modern decks that had a playset of tarmogoyfs and dark confidants.
Also, I lol'd at the Tolarian Entracer and Lure combo. I bet that'd actually be kind of good in standard.
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Nonetheless, what he said, the guy sounds like a poor loser at that.
Not too long after that, I was told I was using a jank deck by a Faeries player...
Well in all fairness, it probably was a jank deck compared to faeries.
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It was.
I was new to standard when Shards was released and I threw together a deck with Demigods and some Broodmate Dragons because those were the coolest things ever. Most of the other FNM players gave me advice on how to improve the deck and what to cut and eventually it could hold its own. The two I mentioned bothered me a little at the time, but now I look back and laugh about it.
I imagine some people get upset because their original ideas don't stand and up to well tested net decks that have been worked on by many people.
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This happened to me when I was new to Standard as well (around New Phyrexia) I liked Mono Black and built some weird thing, eventually the deck became a Mono Black Infect deck (which was awesome to play when Rotation happened and I added more removal)
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When playing Affinity in Modern. This guy then sent me a message on Cockatrice insulting me so a few of my friends and I kept joining his games with Affinity decks. It was fun.
Ignore him. It's just sour grapes because he's a bad Magic player.
There seems to be a lot of those around lately.
As a bonus I had a player kick me for using turn 1 Gixtaxian Probe.
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You, net decked... who cares. lets move on, no sense getting sensitive about it.
No, you see, thats what I'm trying to argue: I wasn't net decking, I was playing my own build of affinity. But I already have moved on, I just wanted to make a point
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I think the problem is that the person who accused you of net-decking has a different definition of net-decking than you do. While you are using the term in it's narrow (and strictly correct) sense of directly copying and pasting a list from the "net," you opponent is using the term in it's broader (and strictly incorrect) sense of copying the concept of your deck from the "net" while making minor adjustments of your own.
When someone like that accuses you of net-decking, I don't think your response should be "I wasn't net-decking." Rather, you should say that net-decking isn't a valid accusation at all.
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