This is *censored* that in order to get one, I have to pay 4x MSRP. I can see x2 with x3 pushing it...but more than x4? My shop has it at 150.00, and the site has not been updated.
I am sorry, but more of these products need to be made to satisfy demand, especially when they make FTV that are actually desirable, not like Legends. And they need to tell stores not to gouge players this much.
This is *censored* that in order to get one, I have to pay 4x MSRP. I can see x2 with x3 pushing it...but more than x4? My shop has it at 150.00, and the site has not been updated.
I am sorry, but more of these products need to be made to satisfy demand, especially when they make FTV that are actually desirable, not like Legends. And they need to tell stores not to gouge players this much.
/rant
Grawr, angry, grawr, my store gouges me yet I keep giving them my money! Doesn't make sense to me.
This is *censored* that in order to get one, I have to pay 4x MSRP. I can see x2 with x3 pushing it...but more than x4? My shop has it at 150.00, and the site has not been updated.
I am sorry, but more of these products need to be made to satisfy demand, especially when they make FTV that are actually desirable, not like Legends. And they need to tell stores not to gouge players this much.
/rant
My store sells one per person at MSRP and I live by another store that sells at MSRP more then one per person, if you want it that bad take a bit of a drive and go someplace that values the playerbase more then the money.
Daily MTG @dailymtg
(Trick) Tonight the entire contents of #FTVRealms will go up in the arcana.
That's Midnight, EST, right?
I need to know so I can buy more for over $100 if Karakas or Wasteland are in during the five second window that will be possible...
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Grawr, angry, grawr, my store gouges me yet I keep giving them my money! Doesn't make sense to me.
This is the first time I considered getting a FTV. And then I see what my local is selling them for. Considering the good deals they give me and others, I am not mad at them, but rather the whole "give stores an awesome product that they can gouge their customer on" concept that encourages them to.
My store sells one per person at MSRP and I live by another store that sells at MSRP more then one per person, if you want it that bad take a bit of a drive and go someplace that values the playerbase more then the money.
I am well aware of that. My LGS does value its playerbase, just not on this one time [They host free cash tournaments, give good prices on product, and give free stuff to players]. I am just raging at the moment. I was expecting around it to be 80 to 90, not 150.00+. I will look around
So, in MTGO, FTV is sold with no purchases limit, right? So if wasteland is in, this means the only expensive cards left will be fow, vindicate and a few other less important ones?
This is the first time I considered getting a FTV. And then I see what my local is selling them for. Considering the good deals they give me and others, I am not mad at them, but rather the whole "give stores an awesome product that they can gouge their customer on" concept that encourages them to.
I am well aware of that. My LGS does value its playerbase, just not on this one time [They host free cash tournaments, give good prices on product, and give free stuff to players]. I am just raging at the moment. I was expecting around it to be 80 to 90, not 150.00+. I will look around
You can't blame a manufacturer for creating an in demand product, and drumming up the demand. You CAN blame the retailer for increasing the price on the basis of hype.
You can't blame a manufacturer for creating an in demand product, and drumming up the demand. You CAN blame the retailer for increasing the price on the basis of hype.
No you can't. Demand dictates price, that's basic economics. It's the reason Maze of Ith is 50$ to start with, and no one claims retailers are gouging them when they sell singles at the current market value. It's the same here. The MSRP is only a suggestion, after all.
Well, after the latest announcement, everything below $110 shipped just sold out on ebay. If wasteland is in this thing, expect $150+ pretty much everywhere except for the non-online sales from brick and mortar stores that like to give their customers a good deal with things like this. This box set really is looking to be as crazy as wizards suggested it would be after the flop that was ftv legends. At this point I would call any of these that can be gotten for $100 or less a good deal. $120 to be a fair price, and $150 to be what Ill expect it to probably end up at by release day given we still have several more cards left to be spoiled and some real strong good possibilities as well (wasteland being the big one and most likely from my point of view).
As people have said, supply and demand dictates the market value for these products. If these were mass produced, and wizards just kept printing them, then that wouldnt be as crazy, but with them being in such short supply comparitively (10-20 per shop depending upon your setup with wizards) and none available outside of a brick and mortar card shop, the low supply and high demand is going to cause these to be worth and thusly be sold for more. Some might be unhappy at not being able to get these for cheaper, but thats just the nature of the market.
You can't blame a manufacturer for creating an in demand product, and drumming up the demand. You CAN blame the retailer for increasing the price on the basis of hype.
Actually, you can when they create a low print run that designed to create higher demand. Stores have every right to sell what they want, but when most stores only get a handful and will most likely rise in value, it is foolish to sell it for MSRP when people have paid for inflated price in the past.
^ Thanks for the insight, Jeff!
You convinced me to go ahead and buy a third copy for ~$110 shipped.
I was willing to spend over $100 each for extras of Relics and Exiled,
and this seems almost objectively better,
and likely to get even more expensive.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
^ Thanks for the insight, Jeff!
You convinced me to go ahead and buy a third copy for ~$110 shipped.
I was willing to spend over $100 each for extras of Relics and Exiled,
and this seems almost objectively better,
and likely to get even more expensive.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I know my LGS also values their playerbase, however I also tend to get reamed on FTV boxes, to the point where I didn't buy a box of Legends. Alas, I live in a very remote location, so simply finding another LGS that sells for cheaper just isn't an option.
I don't know if other people have any information on this, but my LGS said that the most any single store's getting is 20 boxes of FTV: Realms. Just for reference when people talk about LGSes jacking prices up.
So that means any store that gets them will get at least 10?
The LGS I reserved at wasn't sure how many they would get,
but if they get at least 10, I'm quite safe.
Is any store that does FNM at least a "core level" shop?
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I am sorry, but more of these products need to be made to satisfy demand, especially when they make FTV that are actually desirable, not like Legends. And they need to tell stores not to gouge players this much.
/rant
Grawr, angry, grawr, my store gouges me yet I keep giving them my money! Doesn't make sense to me.
EDH is a CASUAL format. Get with the program, or GTFO.
My store sells one per person at MSRP and I live by another store that sells at MSRP more then one per person, if you want it that bad take a bit of a drive and go someplace that values the playerbase more then the money.
That's Midnight, EST, right?
I need to know so I can buy more for over $100 if Karakas or Wasteland are in during the five second window that will be possible...
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Even well-run LGS stores don't make a lot of money. It's just the nature of the industry.
This is the first time I considered getting a FTV. And then I see what my local is selling them for. Considering the good deals they give me and others, I am not mad at them, but rather the whole "give stores an awesome product that they can gouge their customer on" concept that encourages them to.
I am well aware of that. My LGS does value its playerbase, just not on this one time [They host free cash tournaments, give good prices on product, and give free stuff to players]. I am just raging at the moment. I was expecting around it to be 80 to 90, not 150.00+. I will look around
Vesuva, Boseiju, Ancient Tomb, Maze of Ith
You can't blame a manufacturer for creating an in demand product, and drumming up the demand. You CAN blame the retailer for increasing the price on the basis of hype.
EDH is a CASUAL format. Get with the program, or GTFO.
No you can't. Demand dictates price, that's basic economics. It's the reason Maze of Ith is 50$ to start with, and no one claims retailers are gouging them when they sell singles at the current market value. It's the same here. The MSRP is only a suggestion, after all.
As people have said, supply and demand dictates the market value for these products. If these were mass produced, and wizards just kept printing them, then that wouldnt be as crazy, but with them being in such short supply comparitively (10-20 per shop depending upon your setup with wizards) and none available outside of a brick and mortar card shop, the low supply and high demand is going to cause these to be worth and thusly be sold for more. Some might be unhappy at not being able to get these for cheaper, but thats just the nature of the market.
Actually, you can when they create a low print run that designed to create higher demand. Stores have every right to sell what they want, but when most stores only get a handful and will most likely rise in value, it is foolish to sell it for MSRP when people have paid for inflated price in the past.
You convinced me to go ahead and buy a third copy for ~$110 shipped.
I was willing to spend over $100 each for extras of Relics and Exiled,
and this seems almost objectively better,
and likely to get even more expensive.
Now that I've bought all I'm going to, bring on the craziness-
Wasteland!
Karakas!
Mutavault!
Rishadan Port!
Come on, WotC... you know you want to!
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I'm debating if I want to get a 4th one
110 .. it seems like it'd be worth it in the long run
I would say so, and apparently I'm not alone;
Now that auction is sold out, too!
The only other options on eBay right now are $130+
Wow.
I knew Maze of Ith was great, but I had no idea it would be this popular!
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
If we were watching the same one
I got the last one lol
GGG [Primer] Omnath, Big Green Beatstick Machine GGG
Finally! I can always use more of this. Too bad I only ordered one, but it will be good enough.
Reprint Opt for Modern!!
FREE DIG THOROUGH TIME!
PLAY MORE ROUGE DECKS!
EDH decks:
Spellslinging Riku, Omnath, Locus of Facebeating, Soraya the Falconer, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
So that means any store that gets them will get at least 10?
The LGS I reserved at wasn't sure how many they would get,
but if they get at least 10, I'm quite safe.
Is any store that does FNM at least a "core level" shop?
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Oh, god dammit!
And I was just about to leave work, too.
Guess I'm staying a little late today...
(*thinks happy thoughts of Wastelands, Mutavaults, and Karakas..es?*)
EDIT: Also, what's the URL for this?
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
http://www.youtube.com/user/mrorangeguy/feed
I could be wrong though