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#7 43.659293 Lat, -79.382175 Long - Riverside, California - GMI Games http://www.gmigames.com
#8 33.976243 Lat, -117.464489 Long - Toronto, CA - 401 Games http://www.401games.ca/
Both locations have been discovered, we are still waiting on the pieces though.
Wow, FOUR abilities on a planeswalker. Impressive. Let's see.. Opt, Brainstorm, Unsummon.. and I'm not quite sure of the last one... probably something Timetwister-esque.
That confirms it. Unless his - abilities cost an assload, this is one of (if not the) best planeswalkers. Control players are creaming their pants over this guy.
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In the other thread (which I assume will either be closed or merged with this one) states they are in Riverside, Calif and Toronto, Canada.
I assume the Toronto one is either 401 or Dueling Grounds. Or maybe some store in the surrounding. Like Skyfox in Oshawa.
This is 401's website: http://www.401games.ca/. They're open at 9:30 tommorow so it will be up by then. I assume 401 since it's the place for Magic in Toronto.
Just called the store in California (GMI games and collectibles). Woman who answered said that they wouldn't know anything until tomorrow. Guess we'll have to wait till noon tomorrow (pacific time, which is lame).:-/
When I saw 7's coordinates I almost jumped for joy because i knew it would be relatively close me... then I did the whole finding thing. I am not driving from near Syracuse NY to Toronto just to see one of these things in person :(. Now if I lived in Buffalo... I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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For abilities, this guy is no joke. He can get rid of an opponent's top deck or help your top deck with a high +2. He can Brainstorm for cards. Bounce a threat off the board for a while...and the biggest hit is his milling ability.
I'm very impressed with Jace, even if the ability costs are subpar, the amount of diversity sets him apart from other Planeswalkers... and he fits so well in most blue decks too.
When I saw 7's coordinates I almost jumped for joy because i knew it would be relatively close me... then I did the whole finding thing. I am not driving from near Syracuse NY to Toronto just to see one of these things in person :(. Now if I lived in Buffalo... I'd do it in a heartbeat.
I'm just a short 40 minute public transit ride to get there. God Toronto is the best city in Canada.
Hopefully the guys will still have it there by Friday.
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708th at Grand Prix: Toronto 2013
Modern: U/R Delver, RUG Scapeshift, Pod
Standard: Jeskai Tempo
Legacy: Dredge, Burn
Pauper: Mono-U Delver
EDH: Ghave, Token Master
For abilities, this guy is no joke. He can get rid of an opponent's top deck or help your top deck with a high +2. He can Brainstorm for cards. Bounce a threat off the board for a while...and the biggest hit is his milling ability.
I'm very impressed with Jace, even if the ability costs are subpar, the amount of diversity sets him apart from other Planeswalkers... and he fits so well in most blue decks too..
-8?!?!
are you kidding me?
he's gonna come into play with at least 2
drop him turn 4, win turn 8?
nope
maybe like -12 or something
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For abilities, this guy is no joke. He can get rid of an opponent's top deck or help your top deck with a high +2. He can Brainstorm for cards. Bounce a threat off the board for a while...and the biggest hit is his milling ability.
I'm very impressed with Jace, even if the ability costs are subpar, the amount of diversity sets him apart from other Planeswalkers... and he fits so well in most blue decks too.
Look at the second ability -- you can see a very small piece of the loyalty arrow corner. Given its position, we can safely assume his second, third and fourth abilities are all minus abilities.
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I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
I'm glad that the 4 abilities thing shows that Planeswalkers aren't pigeon holed into the same template time after time. Looking forward to Planeswalkers with 2 abilties! I mean, it's just a matter of time I guess.
Slightly off topic: 401 games is close to where the Hulk fought Abomination on Young St. (note the Zanzibar sign in the background of the fight...that's a famous strip club).
I digress, ...havn't been there since i left Canada. And when i did go there it was for Heroclix.
Edit: the store...not the strip club. no heroclix there
Meh, I'm not impressed. So fragile for such a TERRIBLE first ability. I'm also not paying 4 mana for "Brainstorm, gain 2 life", or "Unsummon, gain 1+ life".
MEH! Compared to similar walkers, his +1 should have been something much better.
How can you say his +2 is bad? You can use it to sift away useless fluff you don't need (extra land, pointless wrath effect, whatever). It also works well in conjunction with his Brainstorm ability.
Honestly, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you're making it out to be.
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I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
Due to a simple targeted card draw being -1 on Jace. However WotC doesn't always play on the same page and may be trying to adjust a weak aspect of the original Jace so it could be -1 as well. It definitely is not a + arrow border. While neutral (-/+ 0) has never been seen, I don't see Brainstorm being a 0 cost ability.
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Today's Coordinates:
#7 43.659293 Lat, -79.382175 Long - Riverside, California - GMI Games http://www.gmigames.com
#8 33.976243 Lat, -117.464489 Long - Toronto, CA - 401 Games http://www.401games.ca/
Both locations have been discovered, we are still waiting on the pieces though.
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I assume the Toronto one is either 401 or Dueling Grounds. Or maybe some store in the surrounding. Like Skyfox in Oshawa.
This is 401's website: http://www.401games.ca/. They're open at 9:30 tommorow so it will be up by then. I assume 401 since it's the place for Magic in Toronto.
708th at Grand Prix: Toronto 2013
Modern: U/R Delver, RUG Scapeshift, Pod
Standard: Jeskai Tempo
Legacy: Dredge, Burn
Pauper: Mono-U Delver
EDH: Ghave, Token Master
EDIT: Super 'nathed. w/e
Pretty much the predictions are right now that we have the card piece in English. All we need is the costs of the abilities...
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I was just about to suggest the same thing, except 'exile' instead of remove.
+2
+1
+1
-8
For abilities, this guy is no joke. He can get rid of an opponent's top deck or help your top deck with a high +2. He can Brainstorm for cards. Bounce a threat off the board for a while...and the biggest hit is his milling ability.
I'm very impressed with Jace, even if the ability costs are subpar, the amount of diversity sets him apart from other Planeswalkers... and he fits so well in most blue decks too.
I'm just a short 40 minute public transit ride to get there. God Toronto is the best city in Canada.
Hopefully the guys will still have it there by Friday.
708th at Grand Prix: Toronto 2013
Modern: U/R Delver, RUG Scapeshift, Pod
Standard: Jeskai Tempo
Legacy: Dredge, Burn
Pauper: Mono-U Delver
EDH: Ghave, Token Master
-8?!?!
are you kidding me?
he's gonna come into play with at least 2
drop him turn 4, win turn 8?
nope
maybe like -12 or something
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Look at the second ability -- you can see a very small piece of the loyalty arrow corner. Given its position, we can safely assume his second, third and fourth abilities are all minus abilities.
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RRR Diaochan, Artful Beauty
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We can already see a down arrow for his second ability, so likely all of his remaining abilities cost loyalty.
-1 would make it pretty strong (although I do think it's -1). Perhaps -2?
Slightly off topic: 401 games is close to where the Hulk fought Abomination on Young St. (note the Zanzibar sign in the background of the fight...that's a famous strip club).
I digress, ...havn't been there since i left Canada. And when i did go there it was for Heroclix.
Edit: the store...not the strip club. no heroclix there
MEH! Compared to similar walkers, his +1 should have been something much better.
Also, I'm sure it's:
-1 Brainstorm
-2 Unsummon
-10 Exile.
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Like that one guy said, unless the minus abilities are incredibly high, this will see play.
And they said mono blue control wouldn't be viable...hahaha. This & jwar jwar sphinx make for enough blue win conditions.
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How can you say his +2 is bad? You can use it to sift away useless fluff you don't need (extra land, pointless wrath effect, whatever). It also works well in conjunction with his Brainstorm ability.
Honestly, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you're making it out to be.
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-2: Brainstorm
Due to a simple targeted card draw being -1 on Jace. However WotC doesn't always play on the same page and may be trying to adjust a weak aspect of the original Jace so it could be -1 as well. It definitely is not a + arrow border. While neutral (-/+ 0) has never been seen, I don't see Brainstorm being a 0 cost ability.