what do ya guys (and gals) think of the bloodlord against jund?
he dodges bolt, kills bbe, thrinax, trades with pumped leach, can attack through half of broodmate, and requires them wasting a pulse or terminate to deal with so you can drop a nocturnus or some other nuts card.
Jund's access to tokens makes it a shakey card at best though.
Sure you can plow through the Thrinax, but then the 1/1's just laugh at you. Siege-Gang Commander laughs at him too with all the 1/1 goblins.
Also consider that Jund has their 4/4 out turn 2 compared to turn 3.
Putrid Leach is a basically a 4/4 for two that you have to pay two life for unless you want him to be a 2/2.
This is a 4/4 for three that can be destroyed by any small token. Heck, even a token off a Khalni Garden or a little spawn token kills this thing which is sad.
It's okay, but it's competing with a lot of things that like to come down on turn 3 for Vamps. Vampire Nighthawk, Gatekeeper of Malakir, and Kalastria Highborn (for best effect) all come down on turn 3.
Against jund he isn't bad because vamps has access to infest but against anything running a single wall he's a horrible card. Wall of denial kills him and lives to tell about it, brutal. I'm going to laugh my butt off if there is a mono green stompie ramp other then elfdrazi that uses birds of paradise. That'd be a horrible trade.
I would really be surprised to see arrogant bloodlord in any deck but vamps though. Green/black rock has way better options for turn 3 and any bloodquake changes are probably just going to include more burn and consuming vapors.
Aullios, it's a trade. Arrogant bloodlord is destroyed at end of combat, so he still deals 4 damage to the birds. Unless you've put an eland umbra on it, birds are gonna die.
It doesn't generate card advantage, so jund will simply run over it eventually.
It's nonetheless a pretty solid body to put in the way of the majority of Jund's early game creatures. I would have no problem dropping this on turn 3 to force my opponent to pump and trade a 2nd turn Putrid Leech. However, the innovation of running Consuming Vapors in Jund in place of Bituminous Blast might catch on (since Vapors is disgustingly good), at which point I would like this guy much less.
Even if the new builds of jund don't use spawn makers, this guy wouldn't be too good for reasons already stated. (thrinax, seige-gang, and trading with their two drop)
Even if the new builds of jund don't use spawn makers, this guy wouldn't be too good for reasons already stated. (thrinax, seige-gang, and trading with their two drop)
oh, thanks for clearing that up.
Trading with a Leech is worth it, IMO.
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he dodges bolt, kills bbe, thrinax, trades with pumped leach, can attack through half of broodmate, and requires them wasting a pulse or terminate to deal with so you can drop a nocturnus or some other nuts card.
you would, wouldn't you?
Sure you can plow through the Thrinax, but then the 1/1's just laugh at you. Siege-Gang Commander laughs at him too with all the 1/1 goblins.
Also consider that Jund has their 4/4 out turn 2 compared to turn 3.
Putrid Leach is a basically a 4/4 for two that you have to pay two life for unless you want him to be a 2/2.
This is a 4/4 for three that can be destroyed by any small token. Heck, even a token off a Khalni Garden or a little spawn token kills this thing which is sad.
It's okay, but it's competing with a lot of things that like to come down on turn 3 for Vamps. Vampire Nighthawk, Gatekeeper of Malakir, and Kalastria Highborn (for best effect) all come down on turn 3.
Awfully hard to recover from a 6/5 flyer on turn four.
I would really be surprised to see arrogant bloodlord in any deck but vamps though. Green/black rock has way better options for turn 3 and any bloodquake changes are probably just going to include more burn and consuming vapors.
it's not even a trade, birds lives
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Nope.
arrogant bloodlord
Also, any deck running this guy will probably have a reasonable number of disfigure/vendettas....
It's nonetheless a pretty solid body to put in the way of the majority of Jund's early game creatures. I would have no problem dropping this on turn 3 to force my opponent to pump and trade a 2nd turn Putrid Leech. However, the innovation of running Consuming Vapors in Jund in place of Bituminous Blast might catch on (since Vapors is disgustingly good), at which point I would like this guy much less.
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oh, thanks for clearing that up.
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Trading with a Leech is worth it, IMO.