If I happen to Warp World into 2x Ob Nixilis and some lands, do they both trigger off each land or do they both go to the graveyard and neither trigger?
Also, If I warp world into 2x Child of Alara, AND an Eldrazi Monument, do I lose all my creatures or just Child of Alara?
If I happen to Warp World into 2x Ob Nixilis and some lands, do they both trigger off each land or do they both go to the graveyard and neither trigger?
Option C: They both go to the graveyard, but still both trigger. The exact sequence of events is:
1. Ob Nixilis and lands come into play simultaneously, triggering Ob's ability X times, where X is the number of lands. Nothing goes on the stack yet.
2. Any enchantments come into play.
3. Warp World finishes resolving.
4. Now that a player would get priority, state-based effects are checked. Both Ob Nixilis go to the graveyard as a result.
5. All triggered effects go on the stack. Even though the Obs are still in the graveyard, their effects still go on the stack, in addition to any comes-into-play effects.
6. The active player receives priority, and you can start resolving effects.
Also, If I warp world into 2x Child of Alara, AND an Eldrazi Monument, do I lose all my creatures or just Child of Alara?
I believe you lose all your creatures, since your Monument will get destroyed as a result of the first Child trigger, leaving your creatures defenseless when the second trigger resolves.
If I happen to Warp World into 2x Ob Nixilis and some lands, do they both trigger off each land or do they both go to the graveyard and neither trigger?
Also, If I warp world into 2x Child of Alara, AND an Eldrazi Monument, do I lose all my creatures or just Child of Alara?
I think this would be better posted on the rulings forum. But as far as I know, things that enter the battlefield with Warp World all enter the battlefield at the exact same time, meaning that everything triggers at the same time and you choose the order of the triggers (ofc respecting the "active player puts his abilities first, nonactive after" rule).
So regarding Ob Nixilis, the only thing you need to know is whether or not the other player will lose the life regardless of him being in play or not. I mean they'll enter the battlefield and trigger their abilities, and then die due to state-based effects (assuming I remember it correctly). Now the only question is "will the other guy lose life due to this ability even though the creature that triggered it is no longer in play?". I dont know that answer, though.
as for the child of alara question, by the time they hit the graveyard your creatures are already indestructible, so they're safe.
So regarding Ob Nixilis, the only thing you need to know is whether or not the other player will lose the life regardless of him being in play or not. I mean they'll enter the battlefield and trigger their abilities, and then die due to state-based effects (assuming I remember it correctly). Now the only question is "will the other guy lose life due to this ability even though the creature that triggered it is no longer in play?". I dont know that answer, though.
Yes, abilities on the stack exist independent of their sources. The opponent will still lose the life.
as for the child of alara question, by the time they hit the graveyard your creatures are already indestructible, so they're safe.
Incorrect. The first Child of Alara trigger to resolve will destroy the Monument, thus taking away the source of the indestructibility. When the second trigger resolves, the creatures are no longer indestructible.
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Jace even made it into the Teenage Super Hero Mutant Ninja Hero Turtles.
Incorrect. The first Child of Alara trigger to resolve will destroy the Monument, thus taking away the source of the indestructibility. When the second trigger resolves, the creatures are no longer indestructible.
as they say a lot (or used to when I still was somewhat active on these forums) RTFC is mad tech. I was under the impression that child only destroyed creatures, not permanents. you're right, everything dies.
Also, If I warp world into 2x Child of Alara, AND an Eldrazi Monument, do I lose all my creatures or just Child of Alara?
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Option C: They both go to the graveyard, but still both trigger. The exact sequence of events is:
1. Ob Nixilis and lands come into play simultaneously, triggering Ob's ability X times, where X is the number of lands. Nothing goes on the stack yet.
2. Any enchantments come into play.
3. Warp World finishes resolving.
4. Now that a player would get priority, state-based effects are checked. Both Ob Nixilis go to the graveyard as a result.
5. All triggered effects go on the stack. Even though the Obs are still in the graveyard, their effects still go on the stack, in addition to any comes-into-play effects.
6. The active player receives priority, and you can start resolving effects.
I believe you lose all your creatures, since your Monument will get destroyed as a result of the first Child trigger, leaving your creatures defenseless when the second trigger resolves.
I think this would be better posted on the rulings forum. But as far as I know, things that enter the battlefield with Warp World all enter the battlefield at the exact same time, meaning that everything triggers at the same time and you choose the order of the triggers (ofc respecting the "active player puts his abilities first, nonactive after" rule).
So regarding Ob Nixilis, the only thing you need to know is whether or not the other player will lose the life regardless of him being in play or not. I mean they'll enter the battlefield and trigger their abilities, and then die due to state-based effects (assuming I remember it correctly). Now the only question is "will the other guy lose life due to this ability even though the creature that triggered it is no longer in play?". I dont know that answer, though.
as for the child of alara question, by the time they hit the graveyard your creatures are already indestructible, so they're safe.
hope that helps!
Don't you love when people make such claims and are wrong?
Yes, abilities on the stack exist independent of their sources. The opponent will still lose the life.
Incorrect. The first Child of Alara trigger to resolve will destroy the Monument, thus taking away the source of the indestructibility. When the second trigger resolves, the creatures are no longer indestructible.
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as they say a lot (or used to when I still was somewhat active on these forums) RTFC is mad tech. I was under the impression that child only destroyed creatures, not permanents. you're right, everything dies.
Don't you love when people make such claims and are wrong?