I know that Rancored Elf, as always, has his lovely thread of running price tallies on a new set. However, I figured we could have a more in-depth discussion of a certain aspect of card prices!
As we all (should) know, Lorwyn block is FINALLY LEAVING STANDARD after nearly... 2 years, isn't it? Anyway. That means that 4 full sets of cards will no longer be standard legal come October, clearing out quite a few of the current top tier standard decks. This is nothing new, it always happens; it's just a little shaking now, since we've had the Lorwyn cards since late 2007.
Cards that are cycling out are losing a bit of their prices, as people aren't so keen to buy cards that will be standard illegal in a few months; however, we still have all of Alara Block, plus M10. Now, after that roundabout ranting, I come to my point:
What cards to you expect to rise or drop a significant amount in their price when Lorwyn leaves Standard? Discuss Lorwyn block cards if you wish, but my main focus was Alara and M10 cards.
Personally, I think that Elvish Archdruid may slow its crazy price growth, if it doesn't drop a significant amount. With the loss of all the Lorwyn elves, the Elf Combo deck won't be quite as strong.
Likewise, unless there's a massive amount of Black and Blue cards to deal with in Zendikar, I think that GSS might drop a dollar or two, due to the loss of Fae. It won't be a bad card all of a sudden, but it won't be quite as amazing.
So, good people of MTGSalvation! What do you think of this?
Well yes Elvish Archdruid and the rest of the tribal lords will fall(unless Zendikar gives us alot of good tribal support), and I agree that Great Sable Stag will also fall a bit after we lose fairies(still a brilliant card though). Likely with the loss of kithkin and Windbrisk HeightsHonor the Pure will also fall a bit(again unless Zendikar brings us strong WW support).
Things that should rise include the dual lands(we're loosing the tribal lands, vivid lands, hybrid lands and Reflecting Pool so unless Zendikar has some brilliant replacements(unlikely) the M10 duals should start seeing alot more play and value). Planar Cleansing also has a good shot after we lose both Hallowed Burial and Austere Command. Polymorph will likely lose the little value it has when we lose both Mutavault and Bitterblossom(the best 2 non-creature creatures to use with it). Other than that I can't think of anything in particular.
Well yes Elvish Archdruid and the rest of the tribal lords will fall(unless Zendikar gives us alot of good tribal support), and I agree that Great Sable Stag will also fall a bit after we lose fairies(still a brilliant card though). Likely with the loss of kithkin and Windbrisk HeightsHonor the Pure will also fall a bit(again unless Zendikar brings us strong WW support).
Things that should rise include the dual lands(we're loosing the tribal lands, vivid lands, hybrid lands and Reflecting Pool so unless Zendikar has some brilliant replacements(unlikely) the M10 duals should start seeing alot more play and value). Planar Cleansing also has a good shot after we lose both Hallowed Burial and Austere Command. Polymorph will likely lose the little value it has when we lose both Mutavault and Bitterblossom(the best 2 non-creature creatures to use with it). Other than that I can't think of anything in particular.
Some very astute observations there! Personally I think Honor will drop a bit, but not a lot, since the people who like Mono-white Kithkin (at least the ones I know) are just planning on shifting into Mono-White Soldiers after October. I'm trying to get my hands on as many of the Pickylands as I can, since they're our duals for the forseeable future.
And I agree that GSS is still an amazing card, Fae or no. Pretty much the only way to deal with him is burn or a Path to Exile, and even then that's a Bolt that could have hit you in the face, or a Path that could have hit something bigger. I doubt the Stag will drop a whole whole lot.
5CC dies an instantaneous death, as do all decks that rely on vivid lands / reflecting pools. RPool will drop from a 20$ to a 8-10$ card, if it didn't already.
Mutavault will drop, and perhaps finds a home in extended, but will no means be a staple there.
Zendikar won't contain hybrid mana cards. The power creep was just ridiculous in Lorwyn block, and the mana base made it possible to cast even the most absurdly costed spells.
Consequently, Cruel Ultimatum will become a jank rare.
M10 duals will stay high in price due to the loss of the Lor block mana base / vivids / filters.
Control decks will run walls and be two color. Wall of Denial and Wall of Reverence will be popular.
R/W aggro will dominate. Glory of Warfare will be recognized as a good card.
People will realize the Palace Guard / Fight to the Death combo is a blow out. Captain of the Watch will be played competitively.
@Machius: Honestly, i will happily trade my bolt for your stag any day of the week if your casting that guy on turn 3. I predict he will go back to what he was when he first came out which was about $6. I do agree that the duals will go up and stay pretty high seeing as that they are the only duals we have (minus the boarderposts -_-)
@Ambassador: I think his point is that mutavault was not going to drop that much, not that he wanted to correct you in legacy. ( i guess i can't really read between the faces) Even if r/w with Glory takes off, i honestly think Glory of Warfare is too slow, especially that most damage based sweepers will be played on your turn anyway... R/W/g is what i am predicting just for Bloodbraided Elf and maybe some other goodies...
@Machius: Honestly, i will happily trade my bolt for your stag any day of the week if your casting that guy on turn 3. I predict he will go back to what he was when he first came out which was about $6. I do agree that the duals will go up and stay pretty high seeing as that they are the only duals we have (minus the boarderposts -_-)
Thanks for not bothering to actually read my post (I never made the comment about Lightning Bolt and stag that was Hoodoo). First came out? Stag has only been out a few weeks and for all of that time(unless you go really lucky with your retailer or on ebay) it has been more than $6. It will probably drop down to $6-$8 though after rotation(think of it as a sort of Paladin en-Vec but without having any prior printings, IE good but without a tier 1 deck it absolutely dominates not great).
There are some obvious cards that will drop in value (most already have) such at Cryptic Command, Bitterblossom, mutavault, etc. I imagine a good number of these cards will experience a resurgence going into Extended season though.
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Thanks for not bothering to actually read my post (I never made the comment about Lightning Bolt and stag that was Hoodoo). First came out? Stag has only been out a few weeks and for all of that time(unless you go really lucky with your retailer or on ebay) it has been more than $6. It will probably drop down to $6-$8 though after rotation(think of it as a sort of Paladin en-Vec but without having any prior printings, IE good but without a tier 1 deck it absolutely dominates not great).
Actually, when Great Sable Stag first came out, the pre-orders and first day of release they were going for $6 which is what I priced them at to start with. In the week and a half since the set was released they have since gone up to the $9-$10 range (these prices are from ebay btw, other online stores would obviously have higher prices as they usually do). I personally expect the stag to drop back down to the $6-$7 range post-rotation as the initial demand wears off and some of the main uses for it rotate. It will still be good, and still be played a lot, but it wont be as much of a powerhouse as it is right now, same with the elf lord (which I would be honestly surprised if it dropped below its initial price of $7 even after rotation) the card is nuts, A 2/2 for 1GG that added mana like priest of titania would have likely been a $4-$5 rare, adding it being a pumping lord is just crazy at 3 mana, Im hesitant not to call it practically the best elf ever printed. Casual players and older formats alone would probably be enough to keep it at least that high (heck if something like Doubling Season, which only sees casual play can hold a $10 value, Im sure the elf can keep a $7 value easily enough, standard or not.
Honor of the Pure will eventually drop, its allready starting to cool a little after it jumped above $10, its back down to $10 or below now at least on ebay. Outside of m10 though shards block as a whole is going to depend a whole not on what sorts of lands Zendikar brings us. If it brings some decent lands to supplement the new lands, the tri-lands, and Ancient Ziggurat for the creature heavy decks, then the shard decks like bant and others may still be viable, but thats a rather large if. I know when trying to put a deck together for a new player who wanted a deck they could use post-rotation and would still be good now, I went from deck to deck and kept running into the same problem, eithor a ton of the deck was going to rotate, or the mana base wouldnt exist post-rotation to be able to run it well enough. I eventually had to go with a 2-color R/G aggro deck that seemed rather solid (bloodbriad elf, ball lightning, bolts, and other good R/G stuff) but ug, if I have to put another deck like that together before rotation it will be too soon. Thats the thing I hate the most about big rotations is all of the good played cards that rotate out that make people have to completely re-think their deck ideas. And that people in general dont want to spend a bunch on cards that will rotate in a couple months (not that I blame them of course). So right now Im really hoping they do an excellent job on Zendikar so that it doesnt just completely invalidate a lot of the potential strategies from shards block eithor from not having enough support for them, or simply being too good like lorwyn block did to time spiral block and completely overshadowing it.
Anyhow, Ive allready typed far more than I meant to, Im sure Ill have more input later, but Ill leave it at this for now.
- Virtually everything from the rotating blocks. Big duh here.
- Cruel Ultimatum -- I don't see this fluxuating too much, but on the other hand I see it largely depending on Zendikar. It will likely drop some, but I don't see much of a drop if so.
Increase
- Planar Cleansing -- This I expect to rise to the $4-6 mark, mostly on the basis that it will be the only non-red, non-Infest sweeper that we have. In a format that will surely have Honor of the Pure defining part of it, this could mean it goes higher, as it decapitates white aggro decks if it resolves, and those will surely be using that feisty little 1W enchantment ASAD (as soon as drawn).
- Silence -- I see Cascade decks taking a much more proactive role in Standard. Funny how all the cards with Cascade are allied color, huh?* This card will be quite a silver bullet against shenanigans, especially since there surely will be some excellent hits for Cascade in Zendikar.
- Defiler of Souls -- Call me crazy, but we got some crazy monocolored creatures lately (hi Baneslayer!). And you don't have to wait until your next turn to "edict" one of those cards.
- Liliana Vess -- Liliana's rise I mostly am basing on the assumption that we'll get some serious Cascade action after the rotation commences. This will also largely depend on Nissa Revane's color(s), and whether or not Sorin is indeed a planeswalker, and a likely mono-black, or black-white one at that.
- Earthquake -- With Faeries and Burrenton Forge-Tender going out the door, I imagine Earthquake will come close to competing for Wrath of God's slot. Most of the aggro will be on the ground though Stormfront Pegasus could possibly see some aerial action.
* Enigma Sphinx technically is, as is Maelstrom Nexus (even though we have other names for them), but they weren't the focus of the commentary.
Mutavault won't budge. It's just too easily playable and functional in all of the formats. Right now it's still worth close to $20, and it's not even a commonly used card anymore in standard, usually just merfolk and fae. Merfolk isn't a tier deck, which makes fae the only real deck that plays mutavault with consistency in standard. One deck that plays it doesn't alter the price of a card like that.
Honor of the pure is over hyped right now, it'll trickle a tad towards rotation, then I think it'll drop to around 7 with rotation.
Tribal leaders will drop, along with shard legends, like Rafiq and so forth.
Cruel Ultimatium has always been 1-2 dollars. Just a jank rare that's abused lol
Mutavault won't budge. It's just too easily playable and functional in all of the formats. Right now it's still worth close to $20, and it's not even a commonly used card anymore in standard, usually just merfolk and fae. Merfolk isn't a tier deck, which makes fae the only real deck that plays mutavault with consistency in standard. One deck that plays it doesn't alter the price of a card like that.
Honor of the pure is over hyped right now, it'll trickle a tad towards rotation, then I think it'll drop to around 7 with rotation.
Tribal leaders will drop, along with shard legends, like Rafiq and so forth.
Cruel Ultimatium has always been 1-2 dollars. Just a jank rare that's abused lol
Mutavault has already begun it's decline, sir.
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R/W aggro will dominate. Glory of Warfare will be recognized as a good card.
People will realize the Palace Guard / Fight to the Death combo is a blow out. Captain of the Watch will be played competitively.
I laughed for a few minutes before it struck me that you were serious. Have fun being wrong for a full year. Hope you didn't invest in too many copies of it.
Planar Cleansing -- This I expect to rise to the $4-6 mark, mostly on the basis that it will be the only non-red, non-Infest sweeper that we have.
Scourglass and Martial Coup are still around, and it's a safe bet that there will be at least one more in Zendikar.
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Agreed with the multi-color power houses. Although each shard has two dual lands. Also I think naya and bant might stay strong because of all the color correction/land grab abilities in green.
I laughed for a few minutes before it struck me that you were serious. Have fun being wrong for a full year. Hope you didn't invest in too many copies of it.
I guess you've never seen a turn 3 Spectral Procession followed by a turn 4 Glory of Warfare.
Have fun taking yourself too seriously for a whole year.
5CC dies an instantaneous death, as do all decks that rely on vivid lands / reflecting pools. RPool will drop from a 20$ to a 8-10$ card, if it didn't already.
Mutavault will drop, and perhaps finds a home in extended, but will no means be a staple there.
Zendikar won't contain hybrid mana cards. The power creep was just ridiculous in Lorwyn block, and the mana base made it possible to cast even the most absurdly costed spells.
Consequently, Cruel Ultimatum will become a jank rare.
M10 duals will stay high in price due to the loss of the Lor block mana base / vivids / filters.
Control decks will run walls and be two color. Wall of Denial and Wall of Reverence will be popular.
R/W aggro will dominate. Glory of Warfare will be recognized as a good card.
People will realize the Palace Guard / Fight to the Death combo is a blow out. Captain of the Watch will be played competitively.
Mutavault will remain a staple in Extended because tribal synergies is relevant there. And Life from the Loam and Crucile of Worlds it still legal there...
Cruel Ultimatum has always been a jank rare, though a good jank rare.
Its a bad time to be predicting metagames seeing as how there is about 250 cards that we have no knowledge about.
Understand, Dredge is not really a Magic: The Gathering deck. When a card is playable in it, it doesn't mean it's a tournament playable card. It means it's playable in whatever crazy fantasy world that Dredge operates in.
Mutavault will remain a staple in Extended because tribal synergies is relevant there. And Life from the Loam and Crucile of Worlds it still legal there...
Cruel Ultimatum has always been a jank rare, though a good jank rare.
Its a bad time to be predicting metagames seeing as how there is about 250 cards that we have no knowledge about.
Who was considered the worst LOR planeswalker for quite a long period of time... People need to stop being so smug when trying to predict "good" cards. We have no idea what a new set will bring, and it's all 100% speculation at this point. Ajani is the perfect example. I'm sure most of you folks would have laughed at me had I predicted some places were selling him as high as $20...
Mutavault won't budge. It's just too easily playable and functional in all of the formats.
As the decline shows, many here consistently overrate the impact older formats have on a card's cost, as if they were remotely equal in popularity. Standard always takes up a larger portion than extended, and it's debateable whether casual or eternal have a larger impact on prices.
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As we all (should) know, Lorwyn block is FINALLY LEAVING STANDARD after nearly... 2 years, isn't it? Anyway. That means that 4 full sets of cards will no longer be standard legal come October, clearing out quite a few of the current top tier standard decks. This is nothing new, it always happens; it's just a little shaking now, since we've had the Lorwyn cards since late 2007.
Cards that are cycling out are losing a bit of their prices, as people aren't so keen to buy cards that will be standard illegal in a few months; however, we still have all of Alara Block, plus M10. Now, after that roundabout ranting, I come to my point:
What cards to you expect to rise or drop a significant amount in their price when Lorwyn leaves Standard? Discuss Lorwyn block cards if you wish, but my main focus was Alara and M10 cards.
Personally, I think that Elvish Archdruid may slow its crazy price growth, if it doesn't drop a significant amount. With the loss of all the Lorwyn elves, the Elf Combo deck won't be quite as strong.
Likewise, unless there's a massive amount of Black and Blue cards to deal with in Zendikar, I think that GSS might drop a dollar or two, due to the loss of Fae. It won't be a bad card all of a sudden, but it won't be quite as amazing.
So, good people of MTGSalvation! What do you think of this?
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I expect heavy multicolor legends like Rafiq to drop due to all the mana fixing leaving standard.
I look forward to tribal leaving standard.
Things that should rise include the dual lands(we're loosing the tribal lands, vivid lands, hybrid lands and Reflecting Pool so unless Zendikar has some brilliant replacements(unlikely) the M10 duals should start seeing alot more play and value). Planar Cleansing also has a good shot after we lose both Hallowed Burial and Austere Command. Polymorph will likely lose the little value it has when we lose both Mutavault and Bitterblossom(the best 2 non-creature creatures to use with it). Other than that I can't think of anything in particular.
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Some very astute observations there! Personally I think Honor will drop a bit, but not a lot, since the people who like Mono-white Kithkin (at least the ones I know) are just planning on shifting into Mono-White Soldiers after October. I'm trying to get my hands on as many of the Pickylands as I can, since they're our duals for the forseeable future.
And I agree that GSS is still an amazing card, Fae or no. Pretty much the only way to deal with him is burn or a Path to Exile, and even then that's a Bolt that could have hit you in the face, or a Path that could have hit something bigger. I doubt the Stag will drop a whole whole lot.
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5CC dies an instantaneous death, as do all decks that rely on vivid lands / reflecting pools. RPool will drop from a 20$ to a 8-10$ card, if it didn't already.
Mutavault will drop, and perhaps finds a home in extended, but will no means be a staple there.
Zendikar won't contain hybrid mana cards. The power creep was just ridiculous in Lorwyn block, and the mana base made it possible to cast even the most absurdly costed spells.
Consequently, Cruel Ultimatum will become a jank rare.
M10 duals will stay high in price due to the loss of the Lor block mana base / vivids / filters.
Control decks will run walls and be two color. Wall of Denial and Wall of Reverence will be popular.
R/W aggro will dominate. Glory of Warfare will be recognized as a good card.
People will realize the Palace Guard / Fight to the Death combo is a blow out. Captain of the Watch will be played competitively.
Thanks for correcting me on a format I wasn't even talking about.
Regardless, it will still drop in price.
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I think his point is that mutavault was not going to drop that much, not that he wanted to correct you in legacy.( i guess i can't really read between the faces) Even if r/w with Glory takes off, i honestly think Glory of Warfare is too slow, especially that most damage based sweepers will be played on your turn anyway... R/W/g is what i am predicting just for Bloodbraided Elf and maybe some other goodies...The GJ way path to no lynching:
Thanks for not bothering to actually read my post (I never made the comment about Lightning Bolt and stag that was Hoodoo). First came out? Stag has only been out a few weeks and for all of that time(unless you go really lucky with your retailer or on ebay) it has been more than $6. It will probably drop down to $6-$8 though after rotation(think of it as a sort of Paladin en-Vec but without having any prior printings, IE good but without a tier 1 deck it absolutely dominates not great).
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Actually, when Great Sable Stag first came out, the pre-orders and first day of release they were going for $6 which is what I priced them at to start with. In the week and a half since the set was released they have since gone up to the $9-$10 range (these prices are from ebay btw, other online stores would obviously have higher prices as they usually do). I personally expect the stag to drop back down to the $6-$7 range post-rotation as the initial demand wears off and some of the main uses for it rotate. It will still be good, and still be played a lot, but it wont be as much of a powerhouse as it is right now, same with the elf lord (which I would be honestly surprised if it dropped below its initial price of $7 even after rotation) the card is nuts, A 2/2 for 1GG that added mana like priest of titania would have likely been a $4-$5 rare, adding it being a pumping lord is just crazy at 3 mana, Im hesitant not to call it practically the best elf ever printed. Casual players and older formats alone would probably be enough to keep it at least that high (heck if something like Doubling Season, which only sees casual play can hold a $10 value, Im sure the elf can keep a $7 value easily enough, standard or not.
Honor of the Pure will eventually drop, its allready starting to cool a little after it jumped above $10, its back down to $10 or below now at least on ebay. Outside of m10 though shards block as a whole is going to depend a whole not on what sorts of lands Zendikar brings us. If it brings some decent lands to supplement the new lands, the tri-lands, and Ancient Ziggurat for the creature heavy decks, then the shard decks like bant and others may still be viable, but thats a rather large if. I know when trying to put a deck together for a new player who wanted a deck they could use post-rotation and would still be good now, I went from deck to deck and kept running into the same problem, eithor a ton of the deck was going to rotate, or the mana base wouldnt exist post-rotation to be able to run it well enough. I eventually had to go with a 2-color R/G aggro deck that seemed rather solid (bloodbriad elf, ball lightning, bolts, and other good R/G stuff) but ug, if I have to put another deck like that together before rotation it will be too soon. Thats the thing I hate the most about big rotations is all of the good played cards that rotate out that make people have to completely re-think their deck ideas. And that people in general dont want to spend a bunch on cards that will rotate in a couple months (not that I blame them of course). So right now Im really hoping they do an excellent job on Zendikar so that it doesnt just completely invalidate a lot of the potential strategies from shards block eithor from not having enough support for them, or simply being too good like lorwyn block did to time spiral block and completely overshadowing it.
Anyhow, Ive allready typed far more than I meant to, Im sure Ill have more input later, but Ill leave it at this for now.
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- Virtually everything from the rotating blocks. Big duh here.
- Cruel Ultimatum -- I don't see this fluxuating too much, but on the other hand I see it largely depending on Zendikar. It will likely drop some, but I don't see much of a drop if so.
Increase
- Planar Cleansing -- This I expect to rise to the $4-6 mark, mostly on the basis that it will be the only non-red, non-Infest sweeper that we have. In a format that will surely have Honor of the Pure defining part of it, this could mean it goes higher, as it decapitates white aggro decks if it resolves, and those will surely be using that feisty little 1W enchantment ASAD (as soon as drawn).
- Silence -- I see Cascade decks taking a much more proactive role in Standard. Funny how all the cards with Cascade are allied color, huh?* This card will be quite a silver bullet against shenanigans, especially since there surely will be some excellent hits for Cascade in Zendikar.
- Captain of the Watch -- Not as high-flying as Cloudgoat Ranger, but this will more than get the job done.
- Defiler of Souls -- Call me crazy, but we got some crazy monocolored creatures lately (hi Baneslayer!). And you don't have to wait until your next turn to "edict" one of those cards.
- Liliana Vess -- Liliana's rise I mostly am basing on the assumption that we'll get some serious Cascade action after the rotation commences. This will also largely depend on Nissa Revane's color(s), and whether or not Sorin is indeed a planeswalker, and a likely mono-black, or black-white one at that.
- Earthquake -- With Faeries and Burrenton Forge-Tender going out the door, I imagine Earthquake will come close to competing for Wrath of God's slot. Most of the aggro will be on the ground though Stormfront Pegasus could possibly see some aerial action.
* Enigma Sphinx technically is, as is Maelstrom Nexus (even though we have other names for them), but they weren't the focus of the commentary.
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Honor of the pure is over hyped right now, it'll trickle a tad towards rotation, then I think it'll drop to around 7 with rotation.
Tribal leaders will drop, along with shard legends, like Rafiq and so forth.
Cruel Ultimatium has always been 1-2 dollars. Just a jank rare that's abused lol
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Mutavault has already begun it's decline, sir.
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I laughed for a few minutes before it struck me that you were serious. Have fun being wrong for a full year. Hope you didn't invest in too many copies of it.
Scourglass and Martial Coup are still around, and it's a safe bet that there will be at least one more in Zendikar.
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Magma Phoenix, I just have this feeling black will have some fun sacrifice creature cards in Zen.
Mycoid Shepherd, the finks replacement possibly.
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Agreed with the multi-color power houses. Although each shard has two dual lands. Also I think naya and bant might stay strong because of all the color correction/land grab abilities in green.
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I guess you've never seen a turn 3 Spectral Procession followed by a turn 4 Glory of Warfare.
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Reflecting Pool
Bitterblossom
Mutavault
Cryptic Command
Of those, I think Mutavault will stay high the longest as it already sees some play in other formats.
Mutavault will remain a staple in Extended because tribal synergies is relevant there. And Life from the Loam and Crucile of Worlds it still legal there...
Cruel Ultimatum has always been a jank rare, though a good jank rare.
Its a bad time to be predicting metagames seeing as how there is about 250 cards that we have no knowledge about.
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Yes, but on a budget these aren't bad.
Who was considered the worst LOR planeswalker for quite a long period of time... People need to stop being so smug when trying to predict "good" cards. We have no idea what a new set will bring, and it's all 100% speculation at this point. Ajani is the perfect example. I'm sure most of you folks would have laughed at me had I predicted some places were selling him as high as $20...
As the decline shows, many here consistently overrate the impact older formats have on a card's cost, as if they were remotely equal in popularity. Standard always takes up a larger portion than extended, and it's debateable whether casual or eternal have a larger impact on prices.