They already confirmed at the pax panel that the champion cycle, like the leader cycle of RTR/GTC before it, will mirror the casting costs of the champion/leader cycle in the original RAV block.
Leaders cost XXYY colored mana, and champions cost XY.
So it wouldn't cost BGG or some other color combination.
It costs ?BG.
Huh? Borborygmos costs 8 CMC and Ruric-Thar costs 6 CMC.
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They already confirmed at the pax panel that the champion cycle, like the leader cycle of RTR/GTC before it, will mirror the casting costs of the champion/leader cycle in the original RAV block.
Leaders cost XXYY colored mana, and champions cost XY.
So it wouldn't cost BGG or some other color combination.
It costs ?BG.
Dang, it would've been a really good opportunity to bring back the "gold-blade" type mana costs, except use the guild-pairs to do it, like a golgari "guild-blade" could cost GG, BG, or BB, but still be dual-colored.
Either way, we're a couple weeks away, spoilers should be starting soon, can't wait to see what they have in mind for DGM
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Who would have guess the biggest troll in spoiler history is infact a troll on the biggest troll on these forums.
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I'm just going to assume this card is real until proven otherwise. The skeptics can stay skeptical, the believers should stay believers. All the mods have done by not providing proof and calling Varloz fake is cause more confusion and undermine their own authority on these issues
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I'm just going to assume this card is real until proven otherwise. The skeptics can stay skeptical, the believers should stay believers. All the mods have done by not providing proof and calling Varloz fake is cause more confusion and undermine their own authority on these issues
Like false prophets, doomsday predictions, theories on God, heaven and hell Time will reveal all
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The mods have generally been correct (although there was that DKA ETB Fog spirit fiasco, where they claimed the card was confirmed but it never appeared in the full spoiler), so I'd believe them.
I also believe it is unsafe and a waste of effort to assume all suspected cards are real until proven otherwise--if we start thinking cards are real and then argue over rules, evaluate power levels, and even start playtesting with them, all that effort will be wasted if we find the card is fake. I'd personally rather believe all suspected cards are fake until proven otherwise.
The fake card makers feed on our gullibility. I do not recommend feeding them.
Wow, so it is fake!
The "original" design was really solid-
something tells me the real thing won't quite measure up.
He's referring to colored Mana-
Borbor is RRGG, Ruric is RG.
The design wasn't solid at all! The card is absurd in creature mirrors. It's 90% unkillable.... How many cards in standard currently get around regeneration? Terminus included. It's pretty silly to think that card could have seen print. Talk about the best solution to Thragtusk. It comes down earlier and blocks all day.
Honestly, I am actually kind of glad this card is fake. Now, before everyone decides to pitch into me about that statement, here are my reasons why:
So far, Ruric-Thar, the Unbowed seems pretty darn good. Not broken good, but good enough to find a home in a standard deck, which is a hard thing to do now days. I would assume that version of Varolz would find a home too; he was pretty good. However, I did think that he seemed a little bland to compare with Ruric-Thar. For one, he had two abilities. The first ability was pretty awesome. Attached to a 4/4, it seems that it would be pretty good in the current format, posing as a good stalling creature to fast decks, and unkillable by sweepers and most removal. Yeah, that's all really neat.
However, the second ability seemed lackluster. For one, to even use the ability, he would have to regenerate even once. You're opponent could chump block this guy for days on end with all of the little scuttling tokens and bros running about, all the meanwhile swinging over his head and such. Realistically, he may never end up getting a counter, leaving him with one ability on a 4/4, which is good, but its not impacting. Like I said, I don't have a problem with this, I thought the card was cool. It's just a strange way to get a +1/+1 counter, then use it for death touch. I just didn't like how he had to die. It seemed really obvious that he wouldn't be killed very often just because of that fact.
Yes, the card is really good, but the abilities seemed really bland, or, at least how you get the counters, and then use the counters. Honestly I would much rather see it cost (g/b) hybrid mana to regenerate, have trample, be a 4/4 for a cmc of five, and get a +1/+1 counter whenever it was dealt damage.
The mods have generally been correct (although there was that DKA ETB Fog spirit fiasco, where they claimed the card was confirmed but it never appeared in the full spoiler), so I'd believe them.
Well, that and the time they did a massive lock down on all the "Liliana is the 3 abilities Planeswalker/Garruk is the 5 ability PW" threads because they had solid evidence from extremely reputable sources that Liliana of the Veil was the 5 ability PW and Garruk Relentless was the 3 ability PW. So... yeah, I trust the mods' sources all the time too.
I'll just keep it simple and let others try to figure out any crazy abilities it may have.
Really ? I don't mean to dump on your creation, but what in the Hell would warrent making him Legendary? Any creature could have those abilities, your creation is a worse Glissa. I think you need to look up the definition of what Legendary means.....
Really ? I don't mean to dump on your creation, but what in the Hell would warrent making him Legendary? Any creature could have those abilities, your creation is a worse Glissa. I think you need to look up the definition of what Legendary means.....
Thanks for the advice. Keep in mind that Glissa is a mythic rare, and this guy will be rare.
I realize that it doesn't completely match up in power with some of the other legendary creatures, but deathtouch and regeneration is a pretty solid combination IMO. I was trying to hit some of the simple abilities for the guessing game that TK-421 has presented to us, and let others figure out the more powerful triggered/activated abilities it may have. Maybe you didn't see his earlier post on page 38:
Gladly! This fake is "Too big and too expensive", so you're right kicks, it does have a CMC of 3 or less, and the body is smaller than 4/4.
Everyone, feel to keep guessing. I'll let you know when you get it
And my source is super-tight-lipped after NPH, which I'm completely fine with. Besides, this let's me play a bit of a reveal game with you all with the bits I do know.
Just for everyone's info, Varolz's collector number is a little fuzzy, but it's definitely #112.
Ok, I think i'm going to give it a stab in the dark, I'm not very Golgari-versed, so correct me if this is off-flavor.
Varolz, the Scar-Striped - 1BG
Legendary Creature - Troll Zombie
: Regenerate Varolz, the Scar-Striped, put a +1/+1 counter on him.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Varolz: Put a 1/1 green Saproling token with deathtouch onto the battlefield.
3/3
This good enough?
So he has the shade ability, can use either green or black, and it gives counters instead of until eot boost? ALSO can make saprolings at the same rate. You must be trolling. Get this nonsense out of my sight.
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So he has the shade ability, can use either green or black, and it gives counters instead of until eot boost? ALSO can make saprolings at the same rate. You must be trolling. Get this nonsense out of my sight.
Did you even read the first sentence I typed? I said I was giving it a stab-in-the-dark, I'm not very Golgari-versed, they really didn't tickle my fancy the first time around, and ended up being equally dull the second time around... So pardon me.
Shade ability? what Shade? He has to die in order to regenerate, so basically he can only pump up when he dies, and only if you have mana open, and can only make 1 1/1 with 1 counter... I don't see him being very abusable...
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And my source is super-tight-lipped after NPH, which I'm completely fine with. Besides, this let's me play a bit of a reveal game with you all with the bits I do know.
So does this mean that WOTC is still giving out "godbooks" to pros? I can kinda understand giving it to people with journalistic uses for it, but giving it to the pros is very unfair to the meta around release plus the whole getting certain rares cheap because no one knows that they're going to be better due to soon to revealed cards.
So does this mean that WOTC is still giving out "godbooks" to pros? I can kinda understand giving it to people with journalistic uses for it, but giving it to the pros is very unfair to the meta around release plus the whole getting certain rares cheap because no one knows that they're going to be better due to soon to revealed cards.
I agree with this sentiment, but the fact is, Most of the "pros" also write articles and spoiler articles as well... so it's kind of a necessary evil, still though, it's not that hard to tell if a card is going to be nuts, I knew Boros Reckoner would be insane, Red/white was already a large part of the Meta, it didn't surprise me one bit when it jumped to $25 overnight...
So does this mean that WOTC is still giving out "godbooks" to pros? I can kinda understand giving it to people with journalistic uses for it, but giving it to the pros is very unfair to the meta around release plus the whole getting certain rares cheap because no one knows that they're going to be better due to soon to revealed cards.
What if the pros are also journalists? In fact, I remember reading that this was indeed Guillaume Wafo-Tapa's case--he's a control-favouring pro who wrote articles for something French. Then he and Guillaume Matignon got involved in the NPH Godbook leak, and Wafo-Tapa has only recently returned to tournament play (probably in this calendar year) after getting suspended (along with Matignon--I recall that one of them got the shorter sentence) over the Godbook incident.
Did you even read the first sentence I typed? I said I was giving it a stab-in-the-dark, I'm not very Golgari-versed, they really didn't tickle my fancy the first time around, and ended up being equally dull the second time around... So pardon me.
Shade ability? what Shade? He has to die in order to regenerate, so basically he can only pump up when he dies, and only if you have mana open, and can only make 1 1/1 with 1 counter... I don't see him being very abusable...
You need to die to regenerate, but you can activate the regeneration shield LIKE A SHADE ABILITY as much as you want on your custom card. It's borkety borken.
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You need to die to regenerate, but you can activate the regeneration shield LIKE A SHADE ABILITY as much as you want on your custom card. It's borkety borken.
Yeah like Lully says, you can regenerate whenever you want. I'm sure you didn't realize this, but that's the argument here. Other than that, no big deal; no need to get hasty.
Huh? Borborygmos costs 8 CMC and Ruric-Thar costs 6 CMC.
The "original" design was really solid-
something tells me the real thing won't quite measure up.
He's referring to colored Mana-
Borbor is RRGG, Ruric is RG.
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Dang, it would've been a really good opportunity to bring back the "gold-blade" type mana costs, except use the guild-pairs to do it, like a golgari "guild-blade" could cost GG, BG, or BB, but still be dual-colored.
Either way, we're a couple weeks away, spoilers should be starting soon, can't wait to see what they have in mind for DGM
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I'm just going to assume this card is real until proven otherwise. The skeptics can stay skeptical, the believers should stay believers. All the mods have done by not providing proof and calling Varloz fake is cause more confusion and undermine their own authority on these issues
Like false prophets, doomsday predictions, theories on God, heaven and hell Time will reveal all
As you were....
The mods have generally been correct (although there was that DKA ETB Fog spirit fiasco, where they claimed the card was confirmed but it never appeared in the full spoiler), so I'd believe them.
I also believe it is unsafe and a waste of effort to assume all suspected cards are real until proven otherwise--if we start thinking cards are real and then argue over rules, evaluate power levels, and even start playtesting with them, all that effort will be wasted if we find the card is fake. I'd personally rather believe all suspected cards are fake until proven otherwise.
The fake card makers feed on our gullibility. I do not recommend feeding them.
The design wasn't solid at all! The card is absurd in creature mirrors. It's 90% unkillable.... How many cards in standard currently get around regeneration? Terminus included. It's pretty silly to think that card could have seen print. Talk about the best solution to Thragtusk. It comes down earlier and blocks all day.
So far, Ruric-Thar, the Unbowed seems pretty darn good. Not broken good, but good enough to find a home in a standard deck, which is a hard thing to do now days. I would assume that version of Varolz would find a home too; he was pretty good. However, I did think that he seemed a little bland to compare with Ruric-Thar. For one, he had two abilities. The first ability was pretty awesome. Attached to a 4/4, it seems that it would be pretty good in the current format, posing as a good stalling creature to fast decks, and unkillable by sweepers and most removal. Yeah, that's all really neat.
However, the second ability seemed lackluster. For one, to even use the ability, he would have to regenerate even once. You're opponent could chump block this guy for days on end with all of the little scuttling tokens and bros running about, all the meanwhile swinging over his head and such. Realistically, he may never end up getting a counter, leaving him with one ability on a 4/4, which is good, but its not impacting. Like I said, I don't have a problem with this, I thought the card was cool. It's just a strange way to get a +1/+1 counter, then use it for death touch. I just didn't like how he had to die. It seemed really obvious that he wouldn't be killed very often just because of that fact.
Yes, the card is really good, but the abilities seemed really bland, or, at least how you get the counters, and then use the counters. Honestly I would much rather see it cost (g/b) hybrid mana to regenerate, have trample, be a 4/4 for a cmc of five, and get a +1/+1 counter whenever it was dealt damage.
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Varolz, the Scar-Striped 1GB
Legendary Creature — Troll Warrior (R)
Deathtouch
GB: Regenerate Varolz.
3/3
I'll just keep it simple and let others try to figure out any crazy abilities it may have.
Really ? I don't mean to dump on your creation, but what in the Hell would warrent making him Legendary? Any creature could have those abilities, your creation is a worse Glissa. I think you need to look up the definition of what Legendary means.....
Thanks for the advice. Keep in mind that Glissa is a mythic rare, and this guy will be rare.
I realize that it doesn't completely match up in power with some of the other legendary creatures, but deathtouch and regeneration is a pretty solid combination IMO. I was trying to hit some of the simple abilities for the guessing game that TK-421 has presented to us, and let others figure out the more powerful triggered/activated abilities it may have. Maybe you didn't see his earlier post on page 38:
Varolz, the Scar-Striped - 1BG
Legendary Creature - Troll Zombie
: Regenerate Varolz, the Scar-Striped, put a +1/+1 counter on him.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Varolz: Put a 1/1 green Saproling token with deathtouch onto the battlefield.
3/3
This good enough?
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So he has the shade ability, can use either green or black, and it gives counters instead of until eot boost? ALSO can make saprolings at the same rate. You must be trolling. Get this nonsense out of my sight.
Feel free to tell me yours!
Did you even read the first sentence I typed? I said I was giving it a stab-in-the-dark, I'm not very Golgari-versed, they really didn't tickle my fancy the first time around, and ended up being equally dull the second time around... So pardon me.
Shade ability? what Shade? He has to die in order to regenerate, so basically he can only pump up when he dies, and only if you have mana open, and can only make 1 1/1 with 1 counter... I don't see him being very abusable...
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So does this mean that WOTC is still giving out "godbooks" to pros? I can kinda understand giving it to people with journalistic uses for it, but giving it to the pros is very unfair to the meta around release plus the whole getting certain rares cheap because no one knows that they're going to be better due to soon to revealed cards.
1BG, 2/1 would be my guess too.
P/T matches LolTroll, so there is precedence.
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I agree with this sentiment, but the fact is, Most of the "pros" also write articles and spoiler articles as well... so it's kind of a necessary evil, still though, it's not that hard to tell if a card is going to be nuts, I knew Boros Reckoner would be insane, Red/white was already a large part of the Meta, it didn't surprise me one bit when it jumped to $25 overnight...
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What if the pros are also journalists? In fact, I remember reading that this was indeed Guillaume Wafo-Tapa's case--he's a control-favouring pro who wrote articles for something French. Then he and Guillaume Matignon got involved in the NPH Godbook leak, and Wafo-Tapa has only recently returned to tournament play (probably in this calendar year) after getting suspended (along with Matignon--I recall that one of them got the shorter sentence) over the Godbook incident.
You need to die to regenerate, but you can activate the regeneration shield LIKE A SHADE ABILITY as much as you want on your custom card. It's borkety borken.
Feel free to tell me yours!
Yeah like Lully says, you can regenerate whenever you want. I'm sure you didn't realize this, but that's the argument here. Other than that, no big deal; no need to get hasty.
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