MTG Salvation

5 ablity garruk. and he is double faced. inb4 ennd of magic

but tbh. this will decide the fate of magic. rember chronicles

It was a joke, guys, but thanks for quoting me. It's a Dane Cook stand-up from a long time ago, when he mentions playing monopoly with his grandma. You can't have my cards. Except for Mother of Autumn. That's what I think of you.

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Jeez, calm down people, so the cards are double-sided. Think of it as a new dimension in Draft.

This is going to ruin the business of so many sleeve manufacturers, though... On the bright side, maybe now my local shop will carry Dragon sleeves in a color other than "clear."

why would this ruin sleeve manufacturers?

I don't think you'll be able to play these double sided cards without sleeves at all...

STOP. STOP with the death of magic rubbish. Wait until it's explained completely in like, an hour.

double sided cards are pretty damn cool. I'm psyched for this set so much. Best flavor, best art. Day/Night mechanic.

This is pretty awesome, guys.

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people seem a little overly pissed about a mechanic.

They're fans, a lot of which have been playing for a while, they get easily upset over this kind of stuff but it all blows over very soon.

Remember Planeswalkers? Good lord...

I wonder if there is a way to take the cards apart, so you can have one half on the side like a token.

Like slicing them down the middle? Doubt it, they're still hair-thin cards.

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Each pack has the single sided version and the double sided version so you can use either, but you use the double sided version when its in play.

So, a super token. Its a token, but super.

my biggest worry is for limited....If i 1st pick a card that has print on both sides...wont everyone around me see what i picked?

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pretty cool turnout

!something big must be happening. its silent on twitter

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They said they are checklist cards that will be single sided to use for drafts and for deck shuffling, then when you play them you use the double sided version.

Okay, this is what I expected them to do, and, to me, is NOT the same thing as "the cards are double-sided."

The cards are single-sided, with a double-sided insert to go along with it and represent the card in play.

Man, I am getting so much excitement whiplash over this thing. I really wish they had revealed this mechanic in an article and not at this party, so we could get the whole story at once.

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How are sleeves going to work now that they're double sided? Do you take it out and turn it around? My mind is gonna explode in about three minutes at this rate.

I guess. It is not like you will be transforming 3 cards a turn.

Overall, it is a cool idea that works MUCH better online

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It was a joke, guys, but thanks for quoting me. It's a Dane Cook stand-up from a long time ago, when he mentions playing monopoly with his grandma. You can't have my cards. Except for Mother of Autumn. That's what I think of you.

Yes, because we're supposed to know some obscure quote from a comedian from years ago.

Also, the asking for your stuff thing is a common joke to ask someone who claims they are quitting. If you won't relinquish your stuff you aren't serious about quitting.


Anyways Maro has confirmed double-sided cards so I'm pretty pumped atm.

Ok, honestly I'm not too thrilled about double sided cards, BUT, I will wait until midnight and read the article properly--and it will probably change how I feel about it.

If they include any kind of token or checklist card to draft with, then this could work. Otherwise, draft is really going to be awkward to play. Guess I can be the sleeve faerie for most of the people I play with and just buy a case for anyone using two-faced cards.

garruk IS double sided confirmed here:
http://twitter.com/#!/GatheringMagic
also our resident 5 ability walker

Boy, if anyone pulls Garruk ... how does the decimal work for two sided cards... is it Garruk 3.5?

Anyway, I'm expecting drafts to be fairly difficult to keep a secret when the person to my left shouts, "DUDE NEXT TO ME JUST PULLED GARRUK 3.5!" Great, my surprise is ruined, and I will be suffering ear damage. I guess on the bright side, if you can put a card on the back of a card, Wizards can finally remove "Deckmaster" from the backs of their normal cards because no one will be caring too much about uniformity anymore.

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They're fans, a lot of which have been playing for a while, they get easily upset over this kind of stuff but it all blows over very soon.

Remember Planeswalkers? Good lord...

Like slicing them down the middle? Doubt it, they're still hair-thin cards.

Now that was a huge mess back them... I remember it

Who cares if people see you take a single checklist card AND the double sided card in drafting.

A lot of us had to draft Future Sight differently because of the multiple rares in the set packs.

Also the transform cards don't necessarily work with each other. There are not only Werewolf transformations, there are black vampire ones, blue zombie ones. So nobody knows what the heck you're using.

It was just a matter of time to get the enemy colored M1X dual lands, now I don't have to buy a crapload of Reflecting pools for my decks xDDD

you guys didn't mind morph or flip cards that much....your all two faced

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I guess. It is not like you will be transforming 3 cards a turn.

Overall, it is a cool idea that works MUCH better online

Speaking of online, no way on earth MWS is going to be able to handle something like this. Maybe Wizards did this to kill MWS! O:

I mean, nothing says you can't not transform 3 cards a turn. Although that would be slightly ridiculous.

you guys didn't mind morph or flip cards that much....your all two faced

Magic fans tend to be like that with new innovations, yes.

People like planeswalkers...?

I remember there being a ton of negativity when they were announced.

Actual Flip cards, hm? (Not Rotation "Flip" cards, like the Kamigawa ones were) I have to wonder what amazing stuff will come out of that. Also, I really really want to see that 5 ability walker. are we getting that tonight?

Have some faith in wizards people. What they give us will work. They have put a.lot more thought of this than we have. I agree it looks dumb but Wotc has a lot more on the line than we do. They won't be pissing it away by making this unuseable to casuals. Or tournament players. Sit down and enjoy the ride

I'm still stumped on why they would do this.

I'm not absolutely opposed to two-sided cards like some people, but they already have a way to do this without the downsides: flip cards.

Hopefully the article will give a good reason why they're doing this instead of simply bringing back flip. The only reason I can think of right now is it allows more space for art. Art is nice, but it should not be prioritized over gameplay concerns.