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Sharuum the Hegemon Tempo/Control

This is a fully updated list with new additions from the latest set, Born of the Gods.

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Sharuum ave cmc = ~2.78
Bob ave cmc = ~1.84

Quick question: How do Rings of Brighthearth and Basalt Monolith combo together? Rings clearly states non-mana ability, which is what Monolith's ability is. Otherwise, interesting take on Sharuum.

Brighthearth copies the untap ability.

So you:

Tap it for 3
use 3 to untap it
use 2 from somewhere else to pay for rings
once it untaps the first time, you tap it again with the original untap ability on the stack
then you have 3 floating with the monolith untapped, so it starts paying for the rings ability +1 mana, as many times as you want.

Looking over the list, you can realistically take out most of your draw spells; specifically Braingeyser, Brainstorm, Read the Ruins, Stroke of Genius, Standstill, and Thirst for Knowledge, and replace them with Rhystic Study and Consecrated Sphinx. Then I would add Disciple of the Vault, Bitter Ordeal, and Sculpting Steel for that combo and another counterspell of some sort.

I just have a couple questions.

When is Armageddon relevant? Is it just for turbo-ramp decks?

What does Blasting Station do for you?

Yes, Armaggedon is for taking a aggro deck out of the game after a Wrath effect. If I have good position, I'd Armaggedon with my mana rocks remaining. Hopefully more than them.
Blasting Station is for an infinite combo, figure it out.

Well, if you have infinite mana, and thopter-sword assembled, you can use it to win, but why not just attack them to death?

Also, have you considered Tainted Pact? Your deck is completely one-ofs.

Am I missing something or is the only card that Stoneforge Mystic can fetch Sword of the Meek?

I dont really see a need for Stoneforge Mystic or Lightning Greaves.

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She's a slot filler honestly, I have no idea what to add in that slot. She will be replaced soon once I get something better, maybe another tutor eh? Maybe.

How can you say I don't need Stoneforge Mystic when your deck is running some questionable cards? She's been useful every time I've gotten her.
Really, Inkwell Leviathan and Kuldotha Forgemaster? Sharuum decks get enough hate, so why are you making it easier to them to hate you out with repeatable artifact destruction?

I kind of feel like this was directed at me. I think Stoneforge Mystic is fine, I was just wondering if you updated to include other Equipments and if so which Equipment or Equipments you were considering.

Kuldotha Forgemasteris fun it's a less broken Tinker and if you mange to activate the ability then you should be tutoring for something that will really wreck your opponents day, Inkwell Leviathan is surprisingly hard for people to deal with with out mass distruction, he's even more dificult if you have Darksteel Forge in play. There are very few non-targeted mass exile cards. I admit that my Sharuum List isn't streamlined, and is only moderately competive. I'm working on writing up a tournament list, with will be more in line with bitteroots, and a fun list now.

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I kind of feel like this was directed at me. I think Stoneforge Mystic is fine, I was just wondering if you updated to include other Equipments and if so which Equipment or Equipments you were considering.

Kuldotha Forgemasteris fun it's a less broken Tinker and if you mange to activate the ability then you should be tutoring for something that will really wreck your opponents day, Inkwell Leviathan is surprisingly hard for people to deal with with out mass distruction, he's even more dificult if you have Darksteel Forge in play. There are very few non-targeted mass exile cards. I admit that my Sharuum List isn't streamlined, and is only moderately competive. I'm working on writing up a tournament list, with will be more in line with bitteroots, and a fun list now.

I was wondering what's up with your list. I can't make my list tournament level competitive yet, I need to wait until other people do. I try not to depend on Artifacts in Sharuum, they are the first to do if anyone gets to choose.
Lightning Greaves is good even in a deck with 9 creature, putting someone at 10, then attacking for 5 seems good. Even protecting Bob is important as well, probably more important.

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Sharuum the Hegemon + Blasting Station: Infinite damage. Since her ability goes on the stack, you can response by sacrificing her Blasting Station, her ability states return target artifact from the graveyard to play, that includes herself as well. Return Sharuum to play, triggers Blasting Station, sacrifice her, rinse and repeat as many times as you would like.

I'm really sorry to break this to you but this combo doesn't work. Abilities need targets as soon as they go on the stack. Once Sharuum hits play, her ability goes on the stack and needs a target before you can respond with Blasting Station.

Why does Sharuum + Sculpting Steel work, then? Because the legend rule kills as a state-based action, meaning Sharuum hits the yard before her ability ever goes on the stack, making her a legal target for herself.

Trust me, I so wish this combo worked so I could have another way to insta-win in my Sharuum deck. But it does not work.

I know, I looked up the ruling today. Thanks for telling me though, I replaced it with Bitter Ordeal, I didn't think I'd like it, but it won me 2/6 games today.

Just a thought. Fabricate? Lots of tutors, and one more probably couldn't hurt. searches almost every combo piece for you.

i was looking t your list and it got me curious how is the deck working for you so far

i was wanting to try it out since im looking for a multi player EDH deck (currently using a 1v1 Zur EDH deck and i like it but its just too OP sometimes hasnt lost to any other deck either)

also i like the idea of the stax cards (having a legacy white stax deck myself)

i like the idea of the eye of chaos and invoke prejudice (have them but havent found any deck for them yet)

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I'm really sorry to break this to you but this combo doesn't work. Abilities need targets as soon as they go on the stack. Once Sharuum hits play, her ability goes on the stack and needs a target before you can respond with Blasting Station.

Why does Sharuum + Sculpting Steel work, then? Because the legend rule kills as a state-based action, meaning Sharuum hits the yard before her ability ever goes on the stack, making her a legal target for herself.

Trust me, I so wish this combo worked so I could have another way to insta-win in my Sharuum deck. But it does not work.

It would work if you Flashed her into play. Probably not worth it though.

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i was looking t your list and it got me curious how is the deck working for you so far

i was wanting to try it out since im looking for a multi player EDH deck (currently using a 1v1 Zur EDH deck and i like it but its just too OP sometimes hasnt lost to any other deck either)

also i like the idea of the stax cards (having a legacy white stax deck myself)

i like the idea of the eye of chaos and invoke prejudice (have them but haven't found any deck for them yet)

It works well, most the time it ends up 2v1 or 3v1. The 20 tutors/draw spells help out a lot. You'll always have Armageddon and extra Stax/Lock out pieces in your hand.

I often find myself with no hand against opposing Stax or Lando destruction decks. In a normal, you'll have to win with 2/2 because Sharuum will be countered/killed every time I cast her. D'oh.

It's my attempt of Vintage-Blue Workshop + Legacy-Mono White Stax w/black for tutors. It gets tough sometimes, I still make play mistakes. Wrong fetches, wrong spot removal, err...it gets annoying.

1v1 Zur is Op.

just out of curiousity why the choice of the oddyssey uncommon lands (colloseum and the pit)

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just out of curiosity why the choice of the Oddyssey uncommon lands (coliseum and the pit)

I choose to use those lands because they clear up slots in my deck.

Sundering Titan appears in our games a lot...so I had to make my deck Sundering Titan proof.

They provide extra utility and clear up card slots. Lands can't be countered...yet.

Cabal Pit is a meta call. Braids, Cabal Minion, Dark Confidant, Vendilion Clique, Stoneforge Mystic, Saffi Eriksdotter, Goblin Welder, Kiki-Jiki, Pestermite, Deceiver Exarch are really common, so my I need to be prepared for it.

Cephalid Coliseum is just amazing. All of my decks with Cephalid Coliseum have recursion/reanimation. It's an enabler.

EDIT: nvm you took it down already

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also check your list on the first pg i thnk i saw death cloud twice on the first list

I fix'd that. Thank you. I commented on your casual blue deck. Hope my advice helps, I've only played blue for 4 years, so I'm not the master of blue yet.

almost forgot why no tundra or mana crypt (i know crypt you dont have atm) but if you do have/get them what would you replace for them (since i do have em and i thnk they should be in there (at least for me)

EDIT: basically im gonna use most of my current mana base from my 1v1 zur deck for this one (if you wanna look up the deck check omnidreamer's 1v1 list for zur in the deck database post) thats my current mana base for it

I currently don't have a Tundra. I didn't want to spend $65 on a Tundra last weekend, even though it's a steal. I needed to save my money, Argh.

To be honest, I'd take out land (Temple of the False Gods) for Mana Crypt. this deck is mostly colourless. 36 Lands, ~37 Artifacts, 27 coloured spells.

man i envy you for having nether void thats the last one i need for the invoke/eye of chaos/nether void combo

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man i envy you for having nether void thats the last one i need for the invoke/eye of chaos/nether void combo

I'm jealous of you because you have Invoke Prejudice. I want it! It might be only $35, but it's rare.

Do you have a playset of Academy Rector in that deck?