"DEATH SEED, BLIND man'S GREED
POETS STARVING, children BLEED
NOTHING HE'S GOT, HE REALLY NEEDS
21ST CENTURY SCHIZOID man."
Punish your opponent for stuffing so much good stuff in his or her deck - that he or she simply doesn't need! Let their greed be their downfall as you play their spells for them! Let the children bleed.
Hi, this is the 2nd of my 3 EDH decks (all completed.) I like this deck because it wins through what your opponent has, most of the time (I counter your Time Stretch, then I Memory Plunder it at instant speed and reuse with Wrexial, fun times). People can't have any excuse to call it annoying since it's their own spells doing the deed. Huh, blue player? Like your extra turns a lot? So do I.
I've had a blast playing him as his gameplan is much more fun than Savra's: Control the board, and bash face! In a blue and black heavy meta, Wrexial is basically unblockable, and with all the big spells going around there's fun to have from everybody.
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- Mind Funeral + Crystal Shard
Combos with Chancellor of the Spires or Mnemonic Wall.
- Zombify + Control Magic
Contributing to the 'steal theme'. Zombify was lackluster as most creatures in my own graveyard were hardly worth reanimating.
11/12
- Mask of Avacyn + Mindbreak Trap
I haven't managed to set the Sword yet.
Hellkite is a more reliable creature in the five-six mana category. Nemesis practically demands you to prepare to get Wrexy out. IF he's already out, the Nemesis often becomes the primary target of spot removal; you the main target in the playgroup. Furthermore the risk it carries doesn't really pay off IMO. Might swap Wrexial's little sister back in someday.
-Ambition's Cost + Fact or Fiction
FoF is already nuts in itself, and even better with reanimator.
- Foil + Stormtide Leviathan
Foil is always, always cast at 4 mana in this deck. I hardly have a hand where I can spare one island and one card. I'd rather get Forbid, but for now I don't have that. In goes the Leviathan.
- Frantic Search + Oblivion Stone.
It's not draw if you discard exactly the same amount of cards you draw.
-Evil Twin + Life's Finale
U/B and ability to kill cloned creature is cute and all, but I'll wait for a Rite of Replication.
7/1/12
-Snap + Grafted Exoskeleton
based upon suggestion. The Exoskeleton makes this deck a quick-killer.
Holy crud, I removed my mill package! Why?
The Memory Erosion I might throw back in some day due to its relatively easy-to-keep and innocuous milling, but the Dreamborn Muse usually messes up my draw. I hardly cast it because of other options in 4 mana. It's not very beneficial to me either, so yeah. The milling is cute but it's not a brilliant strategy on retrospect.
Expedition Map: tutor up Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. It's not going to find itself. Might throw in the Mindslaver + Academy Ruins lock someday, will test this out first.
Thada Adel: Stealy fun. It was in my original build for mana ramp, but I realized that it does a good job in exiling problem artifacts completely.
Combo was cute and all, but with the soon-to-be-confirmed removal of Traumatize for Time Warp, and the difficulty in successfully setting up the combo after opponents see it once or twice, makes these two cards an extremely inefficient. The Ascension is pointless when you draw it, and the Mindcrank is subpar.
- Dread
No Mercy on legs was cute, but there was hardly any situation where it was better to play this than to play Wrexial, or to play this while I had other cards in hand. At best it's a 6/6 beater, a slot Sheoldred fills perfectly.
In my attempts to make this deck a much more control-orientated deck, I've decided to throw in the above cards.
WW was in my original decklist which included a lot of mill, a strategy I found to be useless given the amount of Eldrazi being played. However, he is still a good card for preventing graveyard shenanigans that can be tutored up with Muddle the Mixture or Shred Memory, filling the slot which Mindcrank took.
Arcanis, the Omnipotent was an experimental addition but he was worked far better than I thought he would. Whenever I got him down on the board today at the LGS, I didn't lose. The card advantage given by Arcanis is monstrous. It helped me comb through landless-cards for land and vice versa. The evasion ability is nice too. Quite like Lim Dul's Vault - unexpectedly good. The vault I managed to activate twice, combing for the relevant counterspells and equipment. Very, very good at a very low cost.
Kederekt Leviathan: I didn't manage to play him today, but I'm looking forward to Animate Dead+ Kederekt Leviathan shenanigans.
11/12
removed perplex. it sucks most of the time.
added cyclonic rift
GAMEPLAN:
Ideally, you want to be able to win via general damage. Swampwalk and Islandwalk are two very relevant evasive abilities in EDH, and the fact that Wrexial is a 5/8 isn't bad either.It's best if you are able to ramp into Wrexial turns 4-6, give him haste if possible, and quickly deliver 21 damage while using your opponent's (hopefully, countered) spells to your advantage.
Otherwise, your own creatures can deliver a good beating as well. Keiga is both a rattlesnake and a powerful beater. Geth gives Wrexial food and gives you creatures, like a black Green Sun's Zenith.
If worse comes to worse, combo could be the last resort. Combo using Bloodchief Ascension+ Mindcrank or Crystal Shard+Mnemonic Wall/Chancellor of the Spires+ extra turn spell.
Cards that would most likely be removed:
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Consuming Vapours
What I would really like to do , however, is to find a way for it to either become faster, or to have a better control shell. Any ideas on how to improve the deck? What to cut, what to add, et cetera? Your help will be much appreciated.
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Whoops, I had it in there but I seem to have left it out by accident. Edited.
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Cellar Door is indeed interesting, I guess. Just reading the title of the card is beautiful. But it's a bit pointless, actually. It could be anti-tuck tech but since there are hardly any tutors here I doubt it'll work.
Chains of Mephistopheles is just out of my budget. I'm just a poor student. I do realize how powerful it is though.
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In U/B I think that Concentrate is better than ambition's cost.
Maybe add a Induce Paranoia, counter and mill
I run a Lore Broker in my Wrexial, every activation I get to hear the wonderful groans of the other players.
Maybe acquire/find room for Profane Command and Cryptic Command. Telemin Performance can always be hit or miss, but mills some cards regardless.
Cellar Door is indeed interesting, I guess. Just reading the title of the card is beautiful. But it's a bit pointless, actually. It could be anti-tuck tech but since there are hardly any tutors here I doubt it'll work.
Chains of Mephistopheles is just out of my budget. I'm just a poor student. I do realize how powerful it is though.
I feel you man, I literally scrounged up 10 bucks for my sensei's divining top.
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In U/B I think that Concentrate is better than ambition's cost.
Maybe add a Induce Paranoia, counter and mill
I run a Lore Broker in my Wrexial, every activation I get to hear the wonderful groans of the other players.
Maybe acquire/find room for Profane Command and Cryptic Command. Telemin Performance can always be hit or miss, but mills some cards regardless.
I've been meaning to get Concentrate, I used AC as I had extra.
Lore Broker is interesting, but I know some people who would love discarding specific cards so I doubt i'll use him.
I might get Induce Paranoia too.
The commands are still out of my budget, but I will get them when I have the chance.
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I feel you man, I literally scrounged up 10 bucks for my sensei's divining top.
The worse part is that due to the small amounts of card shops we frequent (or know about), they all hike the prices by at least 10-20%..... They sell Time Warp for like, $12 SGD when it should actually be around 6-8 the most...meh.
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And to compliment your Mnemonic Wall + Time Stretch combo, you can go infinite with a sac outlet(my preference being Phyrexian Tower because it beats split second, and because sometimes you can do something with the mana) and then Volrath's Stronghold/Phyrexian Reclamation. I can understand if you don't/can't find a Stronghold though, I snagged mine for $9(a few years ago) and now they're rockin' for $20+ and they're soooo old. The enchantment shouldn't be too hard to get though, especially as it's only an uncommon.
Of course obvious mentions go to Sword of Fire and Ice/Light and Shadow/Feast and Famine, if you can get them, they make any deck leagues better.
Finally, as far as the mill cards go, I play a small selection of them, only if they do something on top of what I already want to do anyway(because mill is weak in Commander). For instant, I think your Mind Funeral(which is a powerful, unique mill effect) could be replaced by Induce Paranoia(which is a counterspell, and gives you random good stuff on top) Broken Ambitions is another of my favorite counters in my own Wrexial.
So combine Mill effects when they already do something relevant to your UB control game plan, then guys like Wrexial, Geth, Ink-Eyes, and Scion are like your top Lieutenants and they just get to be so awesome. They can all win by themselves. Ooh, one last thing I almost forgot, Hall of the Bandit Lord is an awesome way to set up for a big Wrexial turn, they never know when he's coming, so they act differently. It just makes sure you don't have to wait around a turn to start reaping the good stuff from their graveyards.
That's just me though, I actually intend on my primary win-con to be Wrexial general damage(I play online so I have Time Stretch, Capture of Jingzhou, Temporal Manipulation then try to loop those for the general damage kill).
Your Transmute spell choices are inspired. All 3 are useful cards in this deck, and they also happen to tutor up exactly what you need in other cases. Good call!
I think your draw spells could be better. Having all your draw at instant speed is a great thing for being more control-heavy. Try out Frantic Search, Stroke of Genius, and Fact or Fiction.
I would change up your equipments a little bit. Fireshrieker is cute, but it's pretty dead if you're trying to control, and Wrexial is still boss if he only hits once. Equip cost 3 is a lot- Same goes for Mask of Avacyn. I would replace both of those with Whispersilk Cloak.
Twincast is a great counterspell against other counterspells, and it's awesome otherwise. YOu could add it! Also, Cryptic Command is pretty boss. I have also been a big fan of Annul in EDH.
Finally, one great mill card is Mesmeric Orb. Just, try not to mill yourself!
And to compliment your Mnemonic Wall + Time Stretch combo, you can go infinite with a sac outlet(my preference being Phyrexian Tower because it beats split second, and because sometimes you can do something with the mana) and then Volrath's Stronghold/Phyrexian Reclamation. I can understand if you don't/can't find a Stronghold though, I snagged mine for $9(a few years ago) and now they're rockin' for $20+ and they're soooo old. The enchantment shouldn't be too hard to get though, especially as it's only an uncommon.
Of course obvious mentions go to Sword of Fire and Ice/Light and Shadow/Feast and Famine, if you can get them, they make any deck leagues better.
Finally, as far as the mill cards go, I play a small selection of them, only if they do something on top of what I already want to do anyway(because mill is weak in Commander). For instant, I think your Mind Funeral(which is a powerful, unique mill effect) could be replaced by Induce Paranoia(which is a counterspell, and gives you random good stuff on top) Broken Ambitions is another of my favorite counters in my own Wrexial.
So combine Mill effects when they already do something relevant to your UB control game plan, then guys like Wrexial, Geth, Ink-Eyes, and Scion are like your top Lieutenants and they just get to be so awesome. They can all win by themselves. Ooh, one last thing I almost forgot, Hall of the Bandit Lord is an awesome way to set up for a big Wrexial turn, they never know when he's coming, so they act differently. It just makes sure you don't have to wait around a turn to start reaping the good stuff from their graveyards.
That's just me though, I actually intend on my primary win-con to be Wrexial general damage(I play online so I have Time Stretch, Capture of Jingzhou, Temporal Manipulation then try to loop those for the general damage kill).
Oops. Sorry for going all long-winded mode.
No problem, I don't mind =)
Avacyn was subbed in solely for the hexproof effect for Wrexial. Will probably replace it with a Sword. If not, Champion's Helm is at least an upgrade.
I'm not exactly running an infinite combo, but if I had to I would run it with Crystal Shard instead. I might still get sac lands for utility though, but that depends. I tried out Broken Ambitions once, but I opted for olther counterspells as late-game its effect isn't quite as relevant when you're playing against Green especially. I will, however, try and get Induce Paranoia. Mind Funeral may be a good mill card, but it's very ineffectual when Wrexial isn't out. Perhaps I'll keep it in my Maybeboard.
Hall of the Bandit Lord is great, so I'll think twice about it.
Ink-Eyes and Scion: I'm currently on a tight budget, but if my budget allows for it, I'll try and pick those up too. Ink-Eyes might be easy to trigger thanks to Wrexial's evasiveness.
Reclamation is awesome. Good call. I should run it more often.
I'll wait until I have enough money for the Stronghold. Tower I will get when I find someone who sells it.
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Your Transmute spell choices are inspired. All 3 are useful cards in this deck, and they also happen to tutor up exactly what you need in other cases. Good call!
I think your draw spells could be better. Having all your draw at instant speed is a great thing for being more control-heavy. Try out Frantic Search, Stroke of Genius, and Fact or Fiction.
I would change up your equipments a little bit. Fireshrieker is cute, but it's pretty dead if you're trying to control, and Wrexial is still boss if he only hits once. Equip cost 3 is a lot- Same goes for Mask of Avacyn. I would replace both of those with Whispersilk Cloak.
Twincast is a great counterspell against other counterspells, and it's awesome otherwise. YOu could add it! Also, Cryptic Command is pretty boss. I have also been a big fan of Annul in EDH.
Finally, one great mill card is Mesmeric Orb. Just, try not to mill yourself!
Thanks about the Transmute part =) I used to run Dimir Machinations until I found Perplex. The alternative cost isn't something people want to pay as it sets them back further. Lets me tutor for equipment, combo pieces, etc.
Whispersilk Cloak: I might run it, but in my meta Wrexial connecting is usually a given. I might place it in the sideboard instead. I would instead replace Mask with Sword of BoM since it benefits Wrexial, like the previous commentator suggested. The Mask is solely for hexproof. I'll be replacing the mask with Champion's Helm , then I'll change them between games whenever I need them. Both have their own virtues, after all.
Twincast, Cryptic Command and Annul: Twincast and Cryptic Command I've been considering, but I'm waiting until I get money, since I'm running on a tight budget. Annul: very situational to me. I'm just afraid it doesn't connect, so I would not run that card. I fear the risk involved.
Mesmeric Orb may be a good mill card, but I'm not going too far with that - several decks in the local meta run Eldrazi. I may mill, but I keep it within limits: I'm still swapping out Mind Funeral for Induce Paranoia though, to pump up the control shell.
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Word of Command is pretty on theme for this deck if you can find one.
Word of Command's a bit out of my budget, but how did I live without River Kelpie? Will give her/him/it a shot.
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I swapped out Control Magic for Frantic Search. In order to keep up a control shell, of course. I just fear the time comes where it's the only card in my hand.
Might swap out Zombify for Control Magic to supplement the steal-stuff theme. Zombify just isn't making the cut here, Rise from the Grave is leagues better, and so is Beacon of Unrest.
I mean, I guess Frantic Search might have some synergy with Zombify, i.e. discard creature, reanimate, etc.But there really isn't much I would get to reanimate from my own graveyard. I would be better off reanimating from other graveyards.
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Have you tried Volition Reins or Confiscate in your deck? I've found both pretty handy as they can deal with artifacts and enchantments and not just creatures.
Also, what do you guys think about a discard strategy? I tried a 3 v 3 multiplayer game today with Wrexial, and I'm disappointed as to how much Wrexial is slowed solely by the threat of the blue player's hands. The ever-looming threat of a Hinder or Spell Crumple - plus the massive card advantage- all don't look too good for the jolly old kraken.
Should I run a suite of discard spells? I'm just conflicted as to whether to remove some of the mill cards, remove ALL the mill cards, and so on. I'm thinking Mind Twist, Hypnotic Specter, Brainbite, Consult the Necrosages and the like. Any thoughts, anybody?
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Have you tried Volition Reins or Confiscate in your deck? I've found both pretty handy as they can deal with artifacts and enchantments and not just creatures.
I have. I first swapped Volition Reins for Control Magic though, as it was lower mana and I'd usually be casting my general during that turn. I do understand the merits of both cards, however, so I might give them a shot again.
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Chancellor of the Spires + Crystal Shard + time warp in opponent's graveyard
I'm keeping it to complement the stealy theme.
What other good ' steal' cards are there?
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WREXIAL, THE RISEN DEEP
POETS STARVING, children BLEED
NOTHING HE'S GOT, HE REALLY NEEDS
21ST CENTURY SCHIZOID man."
Punish your opponent for stuffing so much good stuff in his or her deck - that he or she simply doesn't need! Let their greed be their downfall as you play their spells for them! Let the children bleed.
Hi, this is the 2nd of my 3 EDH decks (all completed.) I like this deck because it wins through what your opponent has, most of the time (I counter your Time Stretch, then I Memory Plunder it at instant speed and reuse with Wrexial, fun times). People can't have any excuse to call it annoying since it's their own spells doing the deed. Huh, blue player? Like your extra turns a lot? So do I.
I've had a blast playing him as his gameplan is much more fun than Savra's: Control the board, and bash face! In a blue and black heavy meta, Wrexial is basically unblockable, and with all the big spells going around there's fun to have from everybody.
Without any further ado, here is the decklist:
6 Wrexial, the Risen Deep
//Removal(3)
2 Go for the Throat
3 Capsize
4 Consuming Vapours
//Tutors(6)
1 Expedition Map
2 Muddle the Mixture
2 Shred Memory
2 Demonic Tutor
5 Diabolic Revelation
4 Diabolic Tutor
//Clone (2)
4 Clone
4 Rite of Replication
//Planeswalkers (1)
6 Sorin Markov
//Draw/Deck Manipulation (8)
2 Lim-Dul's Vault
3 Rhystic Study
3 Blue Sun’s Zenith
3 Phyrexian Arena
4 Fact or Fiction
4 Deep Analysis
4 Foresee
5 Jace’s Ingenuity
5 Mulldrifter
6 Arcanis, the Omnipotent
//Counter(10)
2 Arcane Denial
2 Counterspell
2 Redirect
3 Dissipate
3 Hinder
3 Spell Crumple
3 Faerie Trickery
4 Rewind
4 Mindbreak Trap
6 Time Stop
3 Praetor’s Grasp
3 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
4 Memory Plunder
4 Control Magic
6 Keiga, the Tide Star
7 Knowledge Exploitation
7 Chancellor of the Spires(+combo)
//Sweeps (4)
2 Cyclonic Rift
3 Oblivion Stone
6 Life's Finale
7 Kederekt Leviathan
//Reanimator (4)
2 Animate Dead
5 Rise from the Grave
6 Geth, Lord of the Vault (+mill)
7 Sheoldred, the Whispering One
//Weapons, for the KRAKEN(4)
2 Swiftfoot Boots
2 Lightning Greaves
3 Trepanation Blade
3 Fireshrieker
//Ramp(7)
1 Sol Ring
2 Talisman of Dominance
2 Star Compass
2 Dimir Signet
3 Darksteel Ingot
3 Worn Powerstone
4 Thran Dynamo
3 Crystal Shard
4 Archaeomancer
5 Time Warp
10 Time Stretch
//Graveyard Hate (1)
2 Withered Wretch
//Enabler (1)
8 Stormtide Leviathan
//Land(34)
13 Island
9 Swamp
1 Jwar Isle Refuge
1 Tolaria West
1 Command Tower
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Nephalia Drownyard
1 Temple of the False God
1 Dreadship Reef
1 Tainted Isle
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth (+enabler)
Deckstats
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Average CMC= 3.89
Deckstats value = $103.65
Mana distribution:: 70% Blue, 30% Black
Mana source distribution: 57% Blue, 43% Black
53 spells, 13 creatures, 34 lands.
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29/11
- Mask of Avacyn + Sword of Body and Mind
- Mind Funeral + Induce Paranoia
(to be replaced)
30/11
- Control Magic + Frantic Search
1/12
- Mind Funeral + Crystal Shard
Combos with Chancellor of the Spires or Mnemonic Wall.
- Zombify + Control Magic
Contributing to the 'steal theme'. Zombify was lackluster as most creatures in my own graveyard were hardly worth reanimating.
11/12
- Mask of Avacyn + Mindbreak Trap
I haven't managed to set the Sword yet.
1/1/12
- 1 Sky Diamond + 1 Star Compass
- 1 Think Twice + 1 Whispersilk Cloak
Will buy other cards.
-Nemesis of Reason + Steel Hellkite
Hellkite is a more reliable creature in the five-six mana category. Nemesis practically demands you to prepare to get Wrexy out. IF he's already out, the Nemesis often becomes the primary target of spot removal; you the main target in the playgroup. Furthermore the risk it carries doesn't really pay off IMO. Might swap Wrexial's little sister back in someday.
-Ambition's Cost + Fact or Fiction
FoF is already nuts in itself, and even better with reanimator.
- Foil + Stormtide Leviathan
Foil is always, always cast at 4 mana in this deck. I hardly have a hand where I can spare one island and one card. I'd rather get Forbid, but for now I don't have that. In goes the Leviathan.
- Frantic Search + Oblivion Stone.
It's not draw if you discard exactly the same amount of cards you draw.
-Evil Twin + Life's Finale
U/B and ability to kill cloned creature is cute and all, but I'll wait for a Rite of Replication.
7/1/12
-Snap + Grafted Exoskeleton
based upon suggestion. The Exoskeleton makes this deck a quick-killer.
8/1/12
- Steel Hellkite+Demonic Tutor
11/1/12
-Memory Erosion, Dreamborn Muse
+Expedition Map, Thada Adel
Holy crud, I removed my mill package! Why?
The Memory Erosion I might throw back in some day due to its relatively easy-to-keep and innocuous milling, but the Dreamborn Muse usually messes up my draw. I hardly cast it because of other options in 4 mana. It's not very beneficial to me either, so yeah. The milling is cute but it's not a brilliant strategy on retrospect.
Expedition Map: tutor up Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. It's not going to find itself. Might throw in the Mindslaver + Academy Ruins lock someday, will test this out first.
Thada Adel: Stealy fun. It was in my original build for mana ramp, but I realized that it does a good job in exiling problem artifacts completely.
30/1/12
Firstly, with the cuts:
1 Bloodchief Ascension
1 Mindcrank
Combo was cute and all, but with the soon-to-be-confirmed removal of Traumatize for Time Warp, and the difficulty in successfully setting up the combo after opponents see it once or twice, makes these two cards an extremely inefficient. The Ascension is pointless when you draw it, and the Mindcrank is subpar.
- Dread
No Mercy on legs was cute, but there was hardly any situation where it was better to play this than to play Wrexial, or to play this while I had other cards in hand. At best it's a 6/6 beater, a slot Sheoldred fills perfectly.
Now for the additions.
1 Kederekt Leviathan
1 Withered Wretch
1 Arcanis, the Omnipotent
In my attempts to make this deck a much more control-orientated deck, I've decided to throw in the above cards.
WW was in my original decklist which included a lot of mill, a strategy I found to be useless given the amount of Eldrazi being played. However, he is still a good card for preventing graveyard shenanigans that can be tutored up with Muddle the Mixture or Shred Memory, filling the slot which Mindcrank took.
Arcanis, the Omnipotent was an experimental addition but he was worked far better than I thought he would. Whenever I got him down on the board today at the LGS, I didn't lose. The card advantage given by Arcanis is monstrous. It helped me comb through landless-cards for land and vice versa. The evasion ability is nice too. Quite like Lim Dul's Vault - unexpectedly good. The vault I managed to activate twice, combing for the relevant counterspells and equipment. Very, very good at a very low cost.
Kederekt Leviathan: I didn't manage to play him today, but I'm looking forward to Animate Dead+ Kederekt Leviathan shenanigans.
11/12
removed perplex. it sucks most of the time.
added cyclonic rift
GAMEPLAN:
Ideally, you want to be able to win via general damage. Swampwalk and Islandwalk are two very relevant evasive abilities in EDH, and the fact that Wrexial is a 5/8 isn't bad either.It's best if you are able to ramp into Wrexial turns 4-6, give him haste if possible, and quickly deliver 21 damage while using your opponent's (hopefully, countered) spells to your advantage.
Otherwise, your own creatures can deliver a good beating as well. Keiga is both a rattlesnake and a powerful beater. Geth gives Wrexial food and gives you creatures, like a black Green Sun's Zenith.
If worse comes to worse, combo could be the last resort. Combo using Bloodchief Ascension+ Mindcrank or Crystal Shard+Mnemonic Wall/Chancellor of the Spires+ extra turn spell.
Maybeboard
Chopping Block
Cards that would most likely be removed:
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Consuming Vapours
What I would really like to do , however, is to find a way for it to either become faster, or to have a better control shell. Any ideas on how to improve the deck? What to cut, what to add, et cetera? Your help will be much appreciated.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Chains of Mephistopheles and alldraw cards might also be interesting.
My Decks:
:symr::symr::symr: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker :symr::symr::symr:
:symb::symb::symb: Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker :symb::symb::symb:
Cellar Door is indeed interesting, I guess. Just reading the title of the card is beautiful. But it's a bit pointless, actually. It could be anti-tuck tech but since there are hardly any tutors here I doubt it'll work.
Chains of Mephistopheles is just out of my budget. I'm just a poor student. I do realize how powerful it is though.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Maybe add a Induce Paranoia, counter and mill
I run a Lore Broker in my Wrexial, every activation I get to hear the wonderful groans of the other players.
Maybe acquire/find room for Profane Command and Cryptic Command.
Telemin Performance can always be hit or miss, but mills some cards regardless.
I feel you man, I literally scrounged up 10 bucks for my sensei's divining top.
My Decks:
:symr::symr::symr: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker :symr::symr::symr:
:symb::symb::symb: Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker :symb::symb::symb:
I've been meaning to get Concentrate, I used AC as I had extra.
Lore Broker is interesting, but I know some people who would love discarding specific cards so I doubt i'll use him.
I might get Induce Paranoia too.
The commands are still out of my budget, but I will get them when I have the chance.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
The worse part is that due to the small amounts of card shops we frequent (or know about), they all hike the prices by at least 10-20%..... They sell Time Warp for like, $12 SGD when it should actually be around 6-8 the most...meh.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Will add in once I get it.
What should I remove for it though?
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
I would cut Mask of Avacyn for it. Hexproof is nice and all, but it's a fairly hefty mana investment to keep it up.
Also, since you have Geth and Sheoldred already, may I recommend Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni, with Scion of Darkness? Just to compliment your mill to borrow theme.
And to compliment your Mnemonic Wall + Time Stretch combo, you can go infinite with a sac outlet(my preference being Phyrexian Tower because it beats split second, and because sometimes you can do something with the mana) and then Volrath's Stronghold/Phyrexian Reclamation. I can understand if you don't/can't find a Stronghold though, I snagged mine for $9(a few years ago) and now they're rockin' for $20+ and they're soooo old. The enchantment shouldn't be too hard to get though, especially as it's only an uncommon.
I would cut Zombify for Phyrexian Reclamation.
Of course obvious mentions go to Sword of Fire and Ice/Light and Shadow/Feast and Famine, if you can get them, they make any deck leagues better.
Finally, as far as the mill cards go, I play a small selection of them, only if they do something on top of what I already want to do anyway(because mill is weak in Commander). For instant, I think your Mind Funeral(which is a powerful, unique mill effect) could be replaced by Induce Paranoia(which is a counterspell, and gives you random good stuff on top) Broken Ambitions is another of my favorite counters in my own Wrexial.
So combine Mill effects when they already do something relevant to your UB control game plan, then guys like Wrexial, Geth, Ink-Eyes, and Scion are like your top Lieutenants and they just get to be so awesome. They can all win by themselves. Ooh, one last thing I almost forgot, Hall of the Bandit Lord is an awesome way to set up for a big Wrexial turn, they never know when he's coming, so they act differently. It just makes sure you don't have to wait around a turn to start reaping the good stuff from their graveyards.
That's just me though, I actually intend on my primary win-con to be Wrexial general damage(I play online so I have Time Stretch, Capture of Jingzhou, Temporal Manipulation then try to loop those for the general damage kill).
Oops. Sorry for going all long-winded mode.
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
I think your draw spells could be better. Having all your draw at instant speed is a great thing for being more control-heavy. Try out Frantic Search, Stroke of Genius, and Fact or Fiction.
I would change up your equipments a little bit. Fireshrieker is cute, but it's pretty dead if you're trying to control, and Wrexial is still boss if he only hits once. Equip cost 3 is a lot- Same goes for Mask of Avacyn. I would replace both of those with Whispersilk Cloak.
Twincast is a great counterspell against other counterspells, and it's awesome otherwise. YOu could add it! Also, Cryptic Command is pretty boss. I have also been a big fan of Annul in EDH.
Finally, one great mill card is Mesmeric Orb. Just, try not to mill yourself!
No problem, I don't mind =)
Avacyn was subbed in solely for the hexproof effect for Wrexial. Will probably replace it with a Sword. If not, Champion's Helm is at least an upgrade.
I'm not exactly running an infinite combo, but if I had to I would run it with Crystal Shard instead. I might still get sac lands for utility though, but that depends. I tried out Broken Ambitions once, but I opted for olther counterspells as late-game its effect isn't quite as relevant when you're playing against Green especially. I will, however, try and get Induce Paranoia. Mind Funeral may be a good mill card, but it's very ineffectual when Wrexial isn't out. Perhaps I'll keep it in my Maybeboard.
Hall of the Bandit Lord is great, so I'll think twice about it.
Ink-Eyes and Scion: I'm currently on a tight budget, but if my budget allows for it, I'll try and pick those up too. Ink-Eyes might be easy to trigger thanks to Wrexial's evasiveness.
Reclamation is awesome. Good call. I should run it more often.
I'll wait until I have enough money for the Stronghold. Tower I will get when I find someone who sells it.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Thanks about the Transmute part =) I used to run Dimir Machinations until I found Perplex. The alternative cost isn't something people want to pay as it sets them back further. Lets me tutor for equipment, combo pieces, etc.
Whispersilk Cloak: I might run it, but in my meta Wrexial connecting is usually a given. I might place it in the sideboard instead. I would instead replace Mask with Sword of BoM since it benefits Wrexial, like the previous commentator suggested. The Mask is solely for hexproof. I'll be replacing the mask with Champion's Helm , then I'll change them between games whenever I need them. Both have their own virtues, after all.
Twincast, Cryptic Command and Annul: Twincast and Cryptic Command I've been considering, but I'm waiting until I get money, since I'm running on a tight budget. Annul: very situational to me. I'm just afraid it doesn't connect, so I would not run that card. I fear the risk involved.
Mesmeric Orb may be a good mill card, but I'm not going too far with that - several decks in the local meta run Eldrazi. I may mill, but I keep it within limits: I'm still swapping out Mind Funeral for Induce Paranoia though, to pump up the control shell.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Word of Command's a bit out of my budget, but how did I live without River Kelpie? Will give her/him/it a shot.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Steel Sabotage'ng Orbs of Mellowness since 2011.
I swapped out Control Magic for Frantic Search. In order to keep up a control shell, of course. I just fear the time comes where it's the only card in my hand.
Might swap out Zombify for Control Magic to supplement the steal-stuff theme. Zombify just isn't making the cut here, Rise from the Grave is leagues better, and so is Beacon of Unrest.
I mean, I guess Frantic Search might have some synergy with Zombify, i.e. discard creature, reanimate, etc.But there really isn't much I would get to reanimate from my own graveyard. I would be better off reanimating from other graveyards.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Should I run a suite of discard spells? I'm just conflicted as to whether to remove some of the mill cards, remove ALL the mill cards, and so on. I'm thinking Mind Twist, Hypnotic Specter, Brainbite, Consult the Necrosages and the like. Any thoughts, anybody?
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
I have. I first swapped Volition Reins for Control Magic though, as it was lower mana and I'd usually be casting my general during that turn. I do understand the merits of both cards, however, so I might give them a shot again.
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
Chancellor of the Spires + Crystal Shard + time warp in opponent's graveyard
I'm keeping it to complement the stealy theme.
What other good ' steal' cards are there?
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
BG Jumpin' JaradsGB
BB Furry Rat Lady: The Deck BB
UU I Don't Ever Want To Explain How Knowledge Pool Works Ever Again UU
RR This Is My Suika Cosplay Lightning Bolt Deck RR
WW Mangara exiles both permanents and friends
RWG Marath Sunforger RWG
WUBRG Cromat and Friends WUBRG
--
BG Savra, Rocking Attrition (retired) GB
BB">Shauku, Envoy of the End (retired) BB
BU Wrexial, the Tentacled H beast(retired)UB
BB Endrek Sahr, Master Commander (retired )BB
UU [PRIMER] Talrand's Terrible Tempo Terror Teatime (retired) UU
UBW Senator Trio - Three Heads Are Better Than One (retired) UBW
BB MONSTRUAL BLEEDING EREBOS SADISM (retired) BB
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=341993
Granted I did put some limitations on myself for building it, but it's still amazingly brutal, and it's one of my more fun decks to play with.
Feel free to "steal" ideas from it