Currently using Mayael the Anima. I've noticed that i'm probably playing EDH incorrectly. It seems that it would make more sense to get a general that is really good at doing damage quickly. ie. the 21 points of damage it would take to win, since you cant heal that damage.
So rather than focusing on the 40 health what generals in your opinion are best at achieving the 21 points of damage?
1. Ayumi, the Last Visitor - Assuming you're not facing budget, easily a turn 8 kill.
2. Nicol Bolas - Often, if he gets the first hit in, your opponent won't be able to deal with him
3. Progenitus - get out a global pumper, and 2 hit kill.
HMs: Tsabo Tavoc - kills legends, has some protection. Lord of Tresserhorn - can be blocked, but gets in for what can be turn 6 kill with global sweeper. Hard to recast, though.
Eh, getting a general that can get through for 21 easy is nice, but (at least in my circle of friends) we run enough destruction and such that youve gatta have some solid protection for the general.
Otherwise, Thraximundar is a pretty good candidate. He has haste, he removes a blocker, and his colors are amazing for removing other threats.
Of course Progenitus can get to 21 and zero at the same!
Beat me to it Gojira! Those were the exact generals I was going to suggest. They're the best b/c they protect themselves to more easily go all the way.
I would add Rafiq to that list....he gets nasty really fast.
My buddy plays Thraximundar and he is a beating if you don't start fast or don't draw into spot removal. It is easy to feel way behind playing against Thrax. I play 2 token based decks and those do fine against it, but my other decks get beat pretty hard by it.
Dude, Scion of the Ur-Dragon.If this guy get in 1 time, you can call it a game.Godo is pretty fast for killing people also, fetch a Jitte, Tatsumasa, SoFi, Greave, SoLs and ride your general for the victory.
People already mention it but Kresh can be realy fast when played against an aggresive deck.
Rafiq and Doran are the best generals I have seen at doling out 21.
I play Mayael too, and using her is not 'doing it wrong'. I won a 5 man game last night. (The deck is good at being unassuming and then is ridiculous before they can handle it)
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I realize no one really likes him, but Malfegor does a pretty damned good job at getting to 21 damage relatively quickly. He probably isn't "the best", but he is MY FAVORITE.
Other than that, Rafiq is probably in some of the best colors, and one of the best supported Generals for the purpose of hitting 21 damage faster than any of the other possible Generals that I have seen. The trick is building an effective Rafiq deck to take advantage of him.
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heartless hidetsugu. Tap, i've done 20 damage. next turn, tap, 10 more. you're dead. Or, even better- if they have lifegain, they go up to 42 life, tap DEAD.
edit: Other than him, I think it's doran. t1 doran comes down often enough, and one trick i've enjoyed is using the equipment giant to throw a slagwurm armor onto an unblocked doran ftw.
heartless hidetsugu. Tap, i've done 20 damage. next turn, tap, 10 more. you're dead. Or, even better- if they have lifegain, they go up to 42 life, tap DEAD.
Combat damage.
Noncombat damage is not 'general damage'.
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So rather than focusing on the 40 health what generals in your opinion are best at achieving the 21 points of damage?
2. Nicol Bolas - Often, if he gets the first hit in, your opponent won't be able to deal with him
3. Progenitus - get out a global pumper, and 2 hit kill.
HMs: Tsabo Tavoc - kills legends, has some protection.
Lord of Tresserhorn - can be blocked, but gets in for what can be turn 6 kill with global sweeper. Hard to recast, though.
GX Tron XG
UR Phoenix RU
GG Freyalise High Tide GG
UR Parun Counterspells RU
BB Yawgmoth Token Storm BB
WB Pestilence BW
Otherwise, Thraximundar is a pretty good candidate. He has haste, he removes a blocker, and his colors are amazing for removing other threats.
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:symb::symg::symw: Karador, Ghost Chieftain :symw::symg::symb:
:symg::symw::symu: Jenara, Asura of War :symu::symw::symg:
:symb::symr::symg: Kartthus, Tyrant of Jund :symg::symr::symb:
:symu::symb: Oona, Queen of the Fae :symb::symu:
:symr::symw: Brion Stoutarm :symw::symr:
Current EDH Decks
:symb::symg::symw: Karador, Ghost Chieftain :symw::symg::symb:
:symg::symw::symu: Jenara, Asura of War :symu::symw::symg:
:symb::symr::symg: Kartthus, Tyrant of Jund :symg::symr::symb:
:symu::symb: Oona, Queen of the Fae :symb::symu:
:symr::symw: Brion Stoutarm :symw::symr:
Of course Progenitus can get to 21 and zero at the same!
Beat me to it Gojira! Those were the exact generals I was going to suggest. They're the best b/c they protect themselves to more easily go all the way.
I would add Rafiq to that list....he gets nasty really fast.
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Thats basically the whole point of the deck. Get him out turn one and every subsequent turn you just buff him up more and more.
I'd probably vote for rafiq though, double strike and exalted is the shizz
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People already mention it but Kresh can be realy fast when played against an aggresive deck.
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I play Mayael too, and using her is not 'doing it wrong'. I won a 5 man game last night. (The deck is good at being unassuming and then is ridiculous before they can handle it)
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Other than that, Rafiq is probably in some of the best colors, and one of the best supported Generals for the purpose of hitting 21 damage faster than any of the other possible Generals that I have seen. The trick is building an effective Rafiq deck to take advantage of him.
edit: Other than him, I think it's doran. t1 doran comes down often enough, and one trick i've enjoyed is using the equipment giant to throw a slagwurm armor onto an unblocked doran ftw.
U Merfolk U
EDH
GBW Doran, the Siege Tower GBW
WU Hanna, Ship's Navigator WU
BBB Marrow-Gnawer BBB
Combat damage.
Noncombat damage is not 'general damage'.
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good call. It did seem too good to be true.
U Merfolk U
EDH
GBW Doran, the Siege Tower GBW
WU Hanna, Ship's Navigator WU
BBB Marrow-Gnawer BBB
EDIT: Multani, Maro-Sorcerer looks awfully good (in multiplayer) as well...
GX Tron XG
UR Phoenix RU
GG Freyalise High Tide GG
UR Parun Counterspells RU
BB Yawgmoth Token Storm BB
WB Pestilence BW