I'm not much into magic anymore. Just way too expensive to keep up with the metagame. But I love drafting, which is way more expensive than just buying cards off ebay for a standard deck.
So I'm putting together a cube. But the cube is going to be 100% proxies. I haven't even started yet aside from sleeving up the basic lands for the proxied cards. I'm going to print the image of the card off and put it in front of the basic land. Makes the best proxy. No having to read crappy handwriting and you get the art of the card, which helps make recognizing the card a lot easier.
The cube is going to be standardly for 4 person drafts, but I would like it to be able to handle 6 person drafts easily. I may upgrade to 8 person drafts, but for now let's keep it smaller.
First thing is, how much basic land should I sleeve up for the cube to ensure that 4 - 6 people will have enough land? I would assume 35 - 40 of each color. That may be over doing it, though. Then let's decide the card breakdown. How many of each color? Do we combine hybrids/gold or separate them? How many of gold/hybrids/artifacts/lands do I add?
After we determine the number of cards, let's start building the cube one color at a time. I'll suggest how I want the color to work in draft and we can then discuss what cards to add.
Let's start off with blue. Obviously I want it to be a controlling color. Blue should primarily focus on 3 mechanics. Counter, Draw, Bounce. Creatures for blue should have these attached to it.
I'll start off with a few cards I know I'm including. These are just off the top of my head at the moment, and I know I'm forgetting a lot of obvious includes. But that's why I'm coming to you with this thread (which should be fun for all :)), because I want to make sure I get a cube that's perfect for what I want.
See, I tried that. And because I want a small cube, the only small option there is for me to go off of is Magic's cube, which is 350. Your cube says 350 in that link, but it looks to have grown to 450.
A lot of Magic's choices I don't agree with.
I could go off of one of the larger lists, but the problem with that is cutting cards becomes a giant hassle. I've tried. I've been lurking this subforum for the last two weeks just reading up on things thinking I could do that, but I've had no luck.
Also, there doesn't seem to be much discussion about how much basic land to sleeve up for cubes. My only real budget I have is sleeves, and I want to use dragonshield sleeves, so to budget, I need to know how many sleeves I'll need combined.
take a larger cube and remove what you think are the weakest cards. if you disagree with someone's choices, change them. there is also a cube comparison results thread in the projects subforum that will show you what cards are used by most people.
honestly i'm not sure what you're asking here...you want us to make a cube for you, but you're not satisfied with looking at the cubes already posted and modifying them? those are our ideal cubes up there so what help could we be in modifying them for your personal taste?
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
I think your best bet is going to be checking out the PRE, the top 20 results, and the cube comparison thread to get an idea of what's useful in the cube and what's not. A 360 card cube is only going to have around 45 - 50 cards per color, so reaching that number shouldn't be too hard when using those resources.
You won't want every gold card though in a list that small, so use the top cards. You should be not too far from 360 at that point. Either cut it down to 360, or if you are under 360 post your results and I am sure the community will get you to 360 in a hot second.
Build a peasant cube, just commons and uncommons, it's far cheaper and can be just as fun.
Used to have a cube just like this, but when I moved apartments, I lost it. This is why I'm creating a new one. I don't feel like spending the time I did creating that cube doing another cube. And since I'm using proxies this time, I have to use sleeves, which is why I have other questions about how much land to include. My common/uncommon cube was roughly 200 cards for 4 person drafts only.
You won't want every gold card though in a list that small, so use the top cards. You should be not too far from 360 at that point. Either cut it down to 360, or if you are under 360 post your results and I am sure the community will get you to 360 in a hot second.
I primarily view these forums at work, which blocks youtube, so I can't see that video.
And I don't mean that your cube is bad, but for what I want my cube to do with colors, I just don't like your cube. But your initial suggestion above is something I guess I'll do. I just didn't want to spend a lot of time looking through every single Magic card and deciding which ones to cut and which ones to add. I figured this would be a fun way of people helping me build my cube. Once it's built, I can customize it based on card performance.
We've already done this a bunch of times. Use the Top 20 Lists, the PRE Results and the Cube Comparison Results threads. Choose your favorite cards. That IS exactly what we'd do over a long period of time on this thread, but all the data is already available. I say take our data, and: Build your own cube!
So I'm putting together a cube. But the cube is going to be 100% proxies. I haven't even started yet aside from sleeving up the basic lands for the proxied cards. I'm going to print the image of the card off and put it in front of the basic land. Makes the best proxy. No having to read crappy handwriting and you get the art of the card, which helps make recognizing the card a lot easier.
The cube is going to be standardly for 4 person drafts, but I would like it to be able to handle 6 person drafts easily. I may upgrade to 8 person drafts, but for now let's keep it smaller.
First thing is, how much basic land should I sleeve up for the cube to ensure that 4 - 6 people will have enough land? I would assume 35 - 40 of each color. That may be over doing it, though. Then let's decide the card breakdown. How many of each color? Do we combine hybrids/gold or separate them? How many of gold/hybrids/artifacts/lands do I add?
After we determine the number of cards, let's start building the cube one color at a time. I'll suggest how I want the color to work in draft and we can then discuss what cards to add.
Let's start off with blue. Obviously I want it to be a controlling color. Blue should primarily focus on 3 mechanics. Counter, Draw, Bounce. Creatures for blue should have these attached to it.
I'll start off with a few cards I know I'm including. These are just off the top of my head at the moment, and I know I'm forgetting a lot of obvious includes. But that's why I'm coming to you with this thread (which should be fun for all :)), because I want to make sure I get a cube that's perfect for what I want.
Blue:
A lot of Magic's choices I don't agree with.
I could go off of one of the larger lists, but the problem with that is cutting cards becomes a giant hassle. I've tried. I've been lurking this subforum for the last two weeks just reading up on things thinking I could do that, but I've had no luck.
Also, there doesn't seem to be much discussion about how much basic land to sleeve up for cubes. My only real budget I have is sleeves, and I want to use dragonshield sleeves, so to budget, I need to know how many sleeves I'll need combined.
honestly i'm not sure what you're asking here...you want us to make a cube for you, but you're not satisfied with looking at the cubes already posted and modifying them? those are our ideal cubes up there so what help could we be in modifying them for your personal taste?
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to your list that you don't already have.
You won't want every gold card though in a list that small, so use the top cards. You should be not too far from 360 at that point. Either cut it down to 360, or if you are under 360 post your results and I am sure the community will get you to 360 in a hot second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxY8lpYAUM
Used to have a cube just like this, but when I moved apartments, I lost it. This is why I'm creating a new one. I don't feel like spending the time I did creating that cube doing another cube. And since I'm using proxies this time, I have to use sleeves, which is why I have other questions about how much land to include. My common/uncommon cube was roughly 200 cards for 4 person drafts only.
I primarily view these forums at work, which blocks youtube, so I can't see that video.
And I don't mean that your cube is bad, but for what I want my cube to do with colors, I just don't like your cube. But your initial suggestion above is something I guess I'll do. I just didn't want to spend a lot of time looking through every single Magic card and deciding which ones to cut and which ones to add. I figured this would be a fun way of people helping me build my cube. Once it's built, I can customize it based on card performance.
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