Happy New Year everyone! The last year (or two) has been a blast. Rise of the Eldrazi, Magic 2011, Scars of Mirrodin, Mirrodin Besieged, New Phyrexia, and Innistrad. Thanks to power creep and mistakes, we've seen drastic changes in all formats. And same with our cubes! They look much different than a few years ago. Mine was imaginary
I admit, everyone looks at cards differently. Some of us slide out that Tarmogoyf from the first pack, while others will slam that Spitting Image. But everyone's thoughts are important, and so lets vote!
Any and all Cards printed before Jan 1, 2012 are open to be voted on
This includes Unglued, Portal, Holiday Cards, Celebration Cards... ect
Just rank your top 20 cards you would take Pack 1, Pick 1. The top card will have 20 points, 2nd will have 19 ect ect. The average score rounded to the nearest tenth willl be the composite, and the cards will be ranked by composite.
Votes will open on Sundays, and close on Saturday nights, I'd appreciate it if everyone gave it their best.
Colorless Sections
Instead of having an artifact section, there will be a colorless section. These are cards that are colorless from both mana cost, how it is played, and color. This will include the new colorless cards such as Karn Liberated and Emurkal, the Eons Torn. Ghostfire is still red (since it requires red mana), and Pact of Negation is still blue since it is blue.
From this definition, cards with Phyrexian mana are their respective colors. In addition Vedalken Shackles is considered blue, because it is a blue card as played (it is near useless without islands). Crystal Shard will be considered an artifact, because it is both colorless in mana cost and color, and it can be played without using blue, however Shard of Alaria is not colorless because it required colored mana to use.
Multicolored
For the multicolored section, it will consist of cards that are multicolor as played. this includes kicker, hybrid, color improved, and activated abilities.
Lands
All lands will be in the land section, and no other section, except for overall.
Note: Functional Reprints Armageddon/Ravages of War can only be voted for once. A 20 vote for Armageddon will mean the same thing as a 20 vote for Ravages of War. Wrath of God and Day of Judgment are different cards because their oracle texts are different. For Wrath, creatures cannot be regenerated.
Please post your votes in thread, and voting will be closed Saturday night
You may PM me for any vote changes
For reference, notable cube cards printed since ROE, using wtwlf123's cube as reference
Right now we are voting for white top 20, these are the top 20 white cards you would pick P1P1 in a cube. Typically this would be based off of your own experience with your own cube.
I will then take the results and give the first place vote 20 votes, the second place votes 19 votes and so on, and average the results for a composite.
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I like Staying Power because it has so much applications.
Ex. Snapcaster a *** in the graveyard to cast whenever, Jitte buffs lasting forever, Exalted/Battle Cry trigger lasting until the creature dies, Mom giving your Goyf Pro all relevant colors, and so on
Haven't actually played in a cube yet *cough* LSB *cough*, but seems like it would be really fun.
Thanks, that helps. Only one thing: How do cards get classified, like Phyrexian mana cards, cards with kicker, colored artifacts (Crystal Shards), color improved cards (Kird Ape), colored utility lands and stuff?
Good question. Of course, I would argue that they should be classified where they best function. Kird Ape is RG, Crystal Shard is blue, Dismember is black, Academy Ruins is blue, etc. But I will bow to the will of the collective.
Thanks, that helps. Only one thing: How do cards get classified, like Phyrexian mana cards, cards with kicker, colored artifacts (Crystal Shards), color improved cards (Kird Ape), colored utility lands and stuff?
Good point, I'll define it in the OP. This is what I am currently going by
Colorless Sections
Instead of having an artifact section, there will be a colorless section. These are cards that are colorless from both mana cost, how it is played, and color. This will include the new colorless cards such as Karn Liberated and Emurkal, the Eons Torn. Ghostfire is still red (since it requires red mana), and Pact of Negation is still blue since it is blue.
From this definition, cards with Phyrexian mana are their respective colors. In addition Vedalken Shackles is considered blue, because it is a blue card as played (it is near useless without islands). Crystal Shard will be considered an artifact, because it is both colorless in mana cost and color, and it can be played without using blue, however Shard of Alaria is not colorless because it required colored mana to use.
Multicolored
For the multicolored section, it will consist of cards that are multicolor as played. this includes kicker, hybrid, color improved, and activated abilities.
Lands
All lands will be in the land section, and no other section, except for overall.
Good question. Of course, I would argue that they should be classified where they best function. Kird Ape is RG, Crystal Shard is blue, Dismember is black, Academy Ruins is blue, etc. But I will bow to the will of the collective.
Cheers,rant
I agree to a certain degree, since I feel like this is more of a community thing, and if a large amount of people want to change a definition, I am open to it. The card I am on the edge on is Dismember.
Intentional for me. I feel that the weakness against a turn 1 Birds/Llanowar Elves makes the card considerably weaker than Swords to Plowshares (which is great against turn 1 drops), and Faith's Fetters and Oblivion Ring can deal with more stuff overall than Path.
Plus, this is a question of pack 1, pick 1. I would never take Path P1P1. I don't feel it's a strong enough reason to be in white. If I'm already established in white, I'll take it very high as it will make pretty much every deck, but it's just not useful enough for me to P1P1.
I admit, everyone looks at cards differently. Some of us slide out that Tarmogoyf from the first pack, while others will slam that Spitting Image. But everyone's thoughts are important, and so lets vote!
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Any and all Cards printed before Jan 1, 2012 are open to be voted on
This includes Unglued, Portal, Holiday Cards, Celebration Cards... ect
Just rank your top 20 cards you would take Pack 1, Pick 1. The top card will have 20 points, 2nd will have 19 ect ect. The average score rounded to the nearest tenth willl be the composite, and the cards will be ranked by composite.
Votes will open on Sundays, and close on Saturday nights, I'd appreciate it if everyone gave it their best.
Colorless Sections
Instead of having an artifact section, there will be a colorless section. These are cards that are colorless from both mana cost, how it is played, and color. This will include the new colorless cards such as Karn Liberated and Emurkal, the Eons Torn. Ghostfire is still red (since it requires red mana), and Pact of Negation is still blue since it is blue.
From this definition, cards with Phyrexian mana are their respective colors. In addition Vedalken Shackles is considered blue, because it is a blue card as played (it is near useless without islands). Crystal Shard will be considered an artifact, because it is both colorless in mana cost and color, and it can be played without using blue, however Shard of Alaria is not colorless because it required colored mana to use.
Multicolored
For the multicolored section, it will consist of cards that are multicolor as played. this includes kicker, hybrid, color improved, and activated abilities.
Lands
All lands will be in the land section, and no other section, except for overall.
Results are posted here
Trade List
For reference, here is 2010's list
2 Armageddon - 18.8 (Ravages of War)
3 Land Tax - 17.1
4 Wrath of God - 15.8
5 Elspeth, Knight-Errant - 13.7
6 Swords to Plowshares - 13.2
7 Day of Judgment - 12.7
7 Baneslayer Angel - 12.7
9 Catastrophe - 9.9
10 Path to Exile - 9.7
11 Exalted Angel - 8.4
12 Moat - 6.6
13 Oblivion Ring - 6.0
14 Reveillark - 5.8
15 Mother of Runes - 5.5
16 Decree of Justice - 5.0
17 Faith's Fetters - 4.1
18 Akroma's Vengeance - 3.8
18 Ajani Goldmane - 3.8
20 Martial Coup - 2.2
Note: Functional Reprints Armageddon/Ravages of War can only be voted for once. A 20 vote for Armageddon will mean the same thing as a 20 vote for Ravages of War. Wrath of God and Day of Judgment are different cards because their oracle texts are different. For Wrath, creatures cannot be regenerated.
Please post your votes in thread, and voting will be closed Saturday night
You may PM me for any vote changes
For reference, notable cube cards printed since ROE, using wtwlf123's cube as reference
1 Accorder Paladin
1 Cloistered Youth
1 Lone Missionary
1 Porcelain Legionnaire
1 Blade Splicer
1 Mirran Crusader
1 Hero of Bladehold
1 Sun Titan
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Gideon Jura
Trade List
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3 Gideon Jura
4 Armageddon
5 Stoneforge Mystic
6 Wrath of God
7 Day of Judgment
8 Balance
9 Swords to Plowshares
10 Path to Exile
11 Mother of Runes
12 Elspeth Tirel
13 Sun Titan
14 Mirran Crusader
15 Baneslayer Angel
16 Oblivion Ring
17 Catastrophe
18 Hero of Bladehold
19 Enlightened Tutor
20 Faith's Fetters
Going off the lists above me, here's my list:
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2 Armageddon
3 Balance
4 Land Tax
5 Gideon Jura
6 Stoneforge Mystic
7 Catastrophe
8 Sword to Plowshares
9 Wrath of God
10 Day of Judgement
11 Path to Exile
12 Enlightened Tutor
13 Faith's Fetters
14 Oblivion Ring
15 Exalted Angel
16 Baneslayer Angel
17 Mother of Runes
18 Reveillark
19 Hero of Bladehold
20 Ajani Goldmane
"What am I looking at? Ashes, dead man."
My votes:
2 Armageddon
3 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
4 Gideon Jura
5 Land Tax
6 Wrath of God
7 Day of Judgment
8 Swords to Plowshares
9 Path to Exile
10 Stoneforge Mystic
11 Catastrophe
12 Baneslayer Angel
13 Elspeth Tirel
14 Enlightened Tutor
15 Mother of Runes
16 Moat
17 Exalted Angel
18 Hero of Bladehold
19 Sun Titan
20 Oblivion Ring
It gives me a sad that I can no longer include Reveillark on that list.
Cheers,
rant
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Right now we are voting for white top 20, these are the top 20 white cards you would pick P1P1 in a cube. Typically this would be based off of your own experience with your own cube.
I will then take the results and give the first place vote 20 votes, the second place votes 19 votes and so on, and average the results for a composite.
I'll see what I can do
EDIT: I added a few to this post http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=7739478&postcount=2
Trade List
Thankfully, there is.
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2. Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3. Moat
4. Balance
5. Wrath of God
6. Baneslayer Angel
7. Stoneforge Mystic
8. Gideon Jura
9. Exalted Angel
10. Day of Judgment
11. Swords to Plowshares
12. Path to Exile
13. Oblivion Ring
14. Mother of Runes
15. Hero of Bladehold
16. Soltari Priest
17. Soltari Monk
18. Student of Warfare
19. Enlightened Tutor
20. Sun Titan
2 Armageddon
3 Wrath of God
4 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
5 Day of Judgement
6 Stoneforge Mystic
7 Gideon Jura
8 Land Tax
9 Swords to Plowshares
10 Enlightened Tutor
11 Hero of Bladehold
12 Baneslayer Angel
13 Mother of Runes
14 Elspeth Tirel
15 Path to Exile
16 Oblivion Ring
17 Mirran Crusader
18 Sun Titan
19 Catastrophe
20 Reveillark
21 Faith's Fetters
22 Staying Power
Lawl,
Staying power looks interesting. What makes you put it on your top 20?
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I like Staying Power because it has so much applications.
Ex. Snapcaster a *** in the graveyard to cast whenever, Jitte buffs lasting forever, Exalted/Battle Cry trigger lasting until the creature dies, Mom giving your Goyf Pro all relevant colors, and so on
Haven't actually played in a cube yet *cough* LSB *cough*, but seems like it would be really fun.
Good question. Of course, I would argue that they should be classified where they best function. Kird Ape is RG, Crystal Shard is blue, Dismember is black, Academy Ruins is blue, etc. But I will bow to the will of the collective.
Cheers,
rant
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Good point, I'll define it in the OP. This is what I am currently going by
Colorless Sections
Instead of having an artifact section, there will be a colorless section. These are cards that are colorless from both mana cost, how it is played, and color. This will include the new colorless cards such as Karn Liberated and Emurkal, the Eons Torn. Ghostfire is still red (since it requires red mana), and Pact of Negation is still blue since it is blue.
From this definition, cards with Phyrexian mana are their respective colors. In addition Vedalken Shackles is considered blue, because it is a blue card as played (it is near useless without islands). Crystal Shard will be considered an artifact, because it is both colorless in mana cost and color, and it can be played without using blue, however Shard of Alaria is not colorless because it required colored mana to use.
Multicolored
For the multicolored section, it will consist of cards that are multicolor as played. this includes kicker, hybrid, color improved, and activated abilities.
Lands
All lands will be in the land section, and no other section, except for overall.
I agree to a certain degree, since I feel like this is more of a community thing, and if a large amount of people want to change a definition, I am open to it. The card I am on the edge on is Dismember.
Trade List
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3 Armageddon
4 Moat
5 Land Tax
6 Catastrophe
7 Gideon Jura
8 Wrath of God
9 Stoneforge Mystic
10 Oblivion Ring
11 Day of Judgement
12 Swords to Plowshares
13 Enlightened Tutor
14 Path to Exile
15 Hero of Bladehold
16 Sun Titan
17 Baneslayer Angel
18 Ajani Goldmane
19 Mirran Crusader
20 Mana Tithe
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02 Armageddon
03 Catastrophe
04 Land Tax
05 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
06 Gideon Jura
07 Baneslayer Angel
08 Stoneforge Mystic
09 Exalted Angel
10 Swords to Plowshares
11 Path to Exile
12 Wrath of God
13 Day of Judgment
14 Reveillark
15 Oblivion Ring
16 Ajani Goldmane
17 Enlightened Tutor
18 Sun Titan
19 Faith's Fetters
20 Hero of Bladehold
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2 Balance
3 Gideon Jura
4 Armageddon
5 Land Tax
6 Sun Titan
7 Wrath of God
8 Baneslayer Angel
9 Ajani Goldmane
10 Enlightened Tutor
11 Swords to Plowshares
12 Austere Command
13 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
14 Moat
15 Luminarch Ascension
16 Fiend Hunter
17 Faith's Fetters
18 Oblivion Ring
19 Cloudgoat Ranger
20 Geist-Honored Monk
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2 balance
3 stoneforge mystic
4 swords to plowshares
5 land tax
6 path to exile
7 wrath of god
8 mirran crusader
9 hero of bladehold
10 day of judgement
11 austere command
12 faith's fetters
13 gideon jura
14 sun titan
15 oblivion ring
16 journey to nowhere
17 reveillark
18 elspeth tirel
19 cloudgoat ranger
20 geist-honored monk
Plus, this is a question of pack 1, pick 1. I would never take Path P1P1. I don't feel it's a strong enough reason to be in white. If I'm already established in white, I'll take it very high as it will make pretty much every deck, but it's just not useful enough for me to P1P1.
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2 Armageddon
3 Land Tax
4 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
5 Mother of Runes
6 Gideon Jura
7 Stoneforge Mystic
8 Spectral Procession
9 Kor Sanctifiers
10 Swords to Plowshares
11 Faith's Fetters
12 Elspeth Tirel
13 Mirror Entity
14 Oblivion Ring
15 Flickerwisp
16 Cloudgoat Ranger
17 Karmic Guide
18 Reveillark
19 Ajani Goldmane
20 Wrath of God
edit: this list was made in context of cubes I have done, not necessarily cubes in general or in a vacuum
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2 Balance
3 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
4 Moat
5 Land Tax
6 Wrath of God
7 Day of Judgment
8 Swords to Plowshares
9 Oblivion Ring
10 Gideon Jura
11 Exalted Angel
12 Sun Titan
13 Path to Exile
14 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
15 Baneslayer Angel
16 Yosei, the Morning Star
17 Mirran Crusader
18 Ajani Goldmane
19 Savannah Lions/Elite Vanguard
20 Spectral Procession
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Do regenerating creatures haunt you in your sleep? That's quite a jump from Wrath of God to Day of Judgment...among other things
Blimpy's Aggro-Focused Cube (powered 360)
I'm always open to suggestions on how to improve my cube. Take a look and ask a question, or give a constructive critique whenever you can.
2 Armageddon
3 Gideon Jura
4 Stoneforge Mystic
5 Balance
6 Land Tax
7 Baneslayer Angel
8 Sun Titan
9 Moat
10 Catastrophe
11 Oblivion Ring
12 Faith's Fetters
13 Swords to Plowshares
14 Wrath of God
15 Karmic Guide
16 Reveilark
17 Elspeth Tirel
18 Hero of Bladehold
19 Path to Exile
20 Mother of Runes
Ranking is difficult. I think it gets pretty unclear for me between 15-20.
2 Armageddon (ravages of war wins over coolness however)
3 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
4 Land Tax
5 Gideon Jura
6 Catastrophe
7 Stoneforge Mystic
8 Baneslayer Angel
9 Exalted Angel
10 Swords to Plowshares
11 Path to Exile
12 Wrath of God
13 Day of Judgment
14 Reveillark
15 Faith's Fetters
16 Hero of Bladehold
17 Enlightened Tutor
18 Sun Titan
19 Oblivion Ring
20 Ajani Goldmane
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