Actually, UG Threshold does exist, it just sucks when compared to every other thresh variant and hasn't top 8-ed since 2008, so I agree it should likely not be listed. Dreadstill on the other hand is at least still currently getting Top 8s, so I don't know what you mean by not viable anymore.
The Zoo list is terrible, but the price wouldn't be effected by that, as he replaced a few commons and uncommons the deck runs with other commons and uncommons of similar price. If you want a better Zoo list to include, I have a few RGW and Domain Zoo lists in the opening post of the Zoo thread in the proven forum.
As Mighty...Dog said Eva Green is a tempo deck, and UGR Tempo Threshold should also be labeled as such.
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I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
This is my build of UWb Landstill; there are plenty of varities, but I think most are nearly identical in regards to the money cards.
Using MOTL prices (ebay average)
Besides the fact that Dreadstill is not a viable deck anymore, Eva Green is a tempo deck, not a control deck, UG threshold doesn't exist and DEFINITELY doesn't run Werebear, and the fact that that's the worse Zoo list I've ever seen, it looks good. Great idea.
lol double eged tounge there have we? If you can link me to better lists for UGx Threshold and a Zoo deck, I'd be glad to give you credit.
Also, Eva Green can "Control" the field by restricting access to lands and discard....but I can make a new tab if it's that much of a bother
Anywho, thanks again for everyone who posted. I'll have to throw up the decklists posted earlier and give credit accordingly ^^
lol double eged tounge there have we? If you can link me to better lists for UGx Threshold and a Zoo deck, I'd be glad to give you credit.
Also, Eva Green can "Control" the field by restricting access to lands and discard....but I can make a new tab if it's that much of a bother
Anywho, thanks again for everyone who posted. I'll have to throw up the decklists posted earlier and give credit accordingly ^^
As I said in my earlier post, there are good lists for Zoo in the Zoo thread in the competitive forums in the opening post. I have kept them somewhat updated.
Tempo needs to be a tab, Eva Green isn't control and Tempo Thresh isn't control, they are Tempo. They use mana denial to gain tempo and use that to propel them to victory, they aren't looking for the late-game board control and card advantage that control decks like Landstill go for.
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Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
As I said in my earlier post, there are good lists for Zoo in the Zoo thread in the competitive forums in the opening post. I have kept them somewhat updated.
Tempo needs to be a tab, Eva Green isn't control and Tempo Thresh isn't control, they are Tempo. They use mana denial to gain tempo and use that to propel them to victory, they aren't looking for the late-game board control and card advantage that control decks like Landstill go for.
lol, looks like it bugged someone enough. Check the 1st post, I made a seperate Tempo tab
And I'll re-post a NOT jank Naya Zoo, since you say they are all good lists...
lol, looks like it bugged someone enough. Check the 1st post, I made a seperate Tempo tab
And I'll re-post a NOT jank Naya Zoo, since you say they are all good lists...
They all are lists capable of winning tournaments, there can be a lot of variations to Zoo based on playstyle so the price will be a rough estimate. Thanks for the update to the Zoo list.
Sorry, I didn't see the Tempo tab, I must have missed that.
Also, the list you have as UWb Thresh should be in Control under UWb Landstill, since that is what the list actually is.
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Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
It costs: $230.86 using Starcity's lowest prices.
The expesive cards are Grindstone and Orim's chant, but there are also a lot of $5 cards. Moat is also in some decks and will increase the price a lot.
It costs: $230.86 using Starcity's lowest prices.
The expesive cards are Grindstone and Orim's chant, but there are also a lot of $5 cards. Moat is also in some decks and will increase the price a lot.
Oh! I noticed this was an up and coming deck, thank you for the price guide. Now if you tell me where it should be filed under (as to not look like a fool....AGAIN) I'll gladly give you props ^^
Mighty Quinn is mono-white control, so I'd file it under control, even though it does have a combo win condition.
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Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
UGr Thresh(aka Tempo Thresh) goes under Tempo, not Aggro.
Dragon Stompy(Red Chalice Aggro) pricing here:
$60 - City of Traitors(4)
$16 - Trinisphere(4)
$12 - Blood Moon(4)
$35 - Umezawa's Jitte(2)
$9 - Rakdos Pit Dragon(4)
$18 - Magus of the Moon(4)
$50 - Chalice of the Void(4)
$70 - Chrome Mox(4)
$8 - Taurean Mauler(4)
$16 - Ancient Tomb(4)
Rest of the cards are under or about $1 each, all prices rounded to nearest whole dollar amount total cost: $369
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I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
Can I get the WHOLE decklist? or is it basically Mountains x15
Fixing now....I trust Gravemind's sayings.
The rest of the deck is some combination of Seething Song, Simian Spirit Guide, Gathan Raiders, Arc-Slogger and occasionally Deus of Calamity. Of these, Deus I've only seen as a two-of and is the most expensive at like $1.50 a piece. Raiders and SSG are usually four-ofs and Slogger is what Deus sometimes replaces.
Man, don't tell them you are building Aggro Loam or you're screwed on those goyf prices.
Anyone priced a Battle of Wits deck yet?
Why would we price Battle of Wits? I've never seen a competitive Legacy build of it.
As far as 'Goyf prices, that's what Star City sells him for these days, and this is supposed to show the prices from them to give you a maximum amount you should pay.
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Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
What I think he was aiming for is one deck said they were going for 37.49, and the current ones are going for like $50 xD......that's a HUGE price jump. It's really a matter of their Supply and Demand going to work. Less Supply on Tarmo = Price Increase, so they can get more to meet the demand.
I'm about to build Land.Deck because of what's in Worldwake, so if you would be kind enough to total up the depressing numbers for me it would be greatly appreciated.
One a side note, SCG's prices for legacy has inflated ridicous amounts thanks to there 5ks. But idc which site is used to punch in the numbers.
If someone doesn't post a decklist in the next few days, I'll get around to it. Don't hold your breath or nothing oO because I have studying to do as well...
Is the list that came in second at the Dallas SCG 5k tournament. I'm feeling a bit too lazy to total it up, but that is a good list to use.
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The Zoo list is terrible, but the price wouldn't be effected by that, as he replaced a few commons and uncommons the deck runs with other commons and uncommons of similar price. If you want a better Zoo list to include, I have a few RGW and Domain Zoo lists in the opening post of the Zoo thread in the proven forum.
As Mighty...Dog said Eva Green is a tempo deck, and UGR Tempo Threshold should also be labeled as such.
I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
Using MOTL prices (ebay average)
Lands (23)
2 Polluted Delta 34.06
3 Flooded Strand 42.63
4 Tundra 128.40
1 Scrubland 23.53
1 Underground Sea 46.42
2 Island
2 Plains
1 Swamp
2 Wasteland 12.07
4 Mishra's Factory 16.08
1 Academy Ruins 2.02
Removal (9)
2 Wrath of God 14.02
2 Engineered Explosives 21.96
3 Swords to Plowshares 6.24
2 Vindicate 23.42
Counters (10)
4 Force of Will 94.56
4 Spell Snare 11.12
2 Counterspell
Draw (13)
2 Cunning Wish 5.4
3 Brainstorm
3 Sensei's Divining Top 10.86
3 Standstill 9.44
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Jace Beleren 6.59
Win Conditions (5)
2 Decree of Justice 4.90
1 Eternal Dragon 2.26
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant53.70
SB (15)
1 Ravenous Trap
1 Runed Halo
2 Meddling Mage 7.26
1 Fracturing Gust
1 Zealous Persecution
2 Extirpate 13.00
2 Blue Elemental Blast
1 Pulse of the Fields
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Path to Exile 7.84
Maindeck: 569.68 + brainstorms & FOF =~ 570.00
Sideboard: 28.10 + assorted cards =~ 30.00
Total: ~600.00 by Ebay prices - add-in the numerous shipping costs and it's probably more like 625 or 650
lol double eged tounge there have we? If you can link me to better lists for UGx Threshold and a Zoo deck, I'd be glad to give you credit.
Also, Eva Green can "Control" the field by restricting access to lands and discard....but I can make a new tab if it's that much of a bother
Anywho, thanks again for everyone who posted. I'll have to throw up the decklists posted earlier and give credit accordingly ^^
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As I said in my earlier post, there are good lists for Zoo in the Zoo thread in the competitive forums in the opening post. I have kept them somewhat updated.
Tempo needs to be a tab, Eva Green isn't control and Tempo Thresh isn't control, they are Tempo. They use mana denial to gain tempo and use that to propel them to victory, they aren't looking for the late-game board control and card advantage that control decks like Landstill go for.
I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
lol, looks like it bugged someone enough. Check the 1st post, I made a seperate Tempo tab
And I'll re-post a NOT jank Naya Zoo, since you say they are all good lists...
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
They all are lists capable of winning tournaments, there can be a lot of variations to Zoo based on playstyle so the price will be a rough estimate. Thanks for the update to the Zoo list.
Sorry, I didn't see the Tempo tab, I must have missed that.
Also, the list you have as UWb Thresh should be in Control under UWb Landstill, since that is what the list actually is.
I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
Moving now
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
Legacy Competitive
BUReanimatorUB
RUSneaky ShowUR(Dismantled)
GBUReanimatorUBG(Retired)
(Pre-Mystical Tutor Banning)
{RIP:July 1, 2010}
Legacy Casual
UWBag Of TricksWU
GWEnchantressWG(Budget/In construction)
WSoul SistersW
Legacy Casual - Retired
UBT.E.S. - The EGG-pic StormBU
BGrave ExistenceB
Sig by Me =)
Using IBA's most recent list:
19 Snow-Covered Plains
// Creatures
2 Painter's Servant
//Spells
3 Wrath of God
2 Sacred Mesa
3 Oblivion Ring
2 Isochron Scepter
4 Orim's Chant
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Enlightened Tutor
4 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Grindstone
2 Runed Halo
2 Humility
1 Relic of Progenitus
2 Abeyance
1 Path to Exile
3 Ray of Distortion
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Rule of Law
1 Karmic Justice
1 Sacred Ground
4 Pulse of the Fields
3 Ethersworn Canonist
It costs: $230.86 using Starcity's lowest prices.
The expesive cards are Grindstone and Orim's chant, but there are also a lot of $5 cards. Moat is also in some decks and will increase the price a lot.
Oh! I noticed this was an up and coming deck, thank you for the price guide. Now if you tell me where it should be filed under (as to not look like a fool....AGAIN) I'll gladly give you props ^^
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
Awaiting further comments/decklists/etc.
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
Dragon Stompy(Red Chalice Aggro) pricing here:
$60 - City of Traitors(4)
$16 - Trinisphere(4)
$12 - Blood Moon(4)
$35 - Umezawa's Jitte(2)
$9 - Rakdos Pit Dragon(4)
$18 - Magus of the Moon(4)
$50 - Chalice of the Void(4)
$70 - Chrome Mox(4)
$8 - Taurean Mauler(4)
$16 - Ancient Tomb(4)
Rest of the cards are under or about $1 each, all prices rounded to nearest whole dollar amount total cost: $369
I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
lol Gravemind, your too much
Can I get the WHOLE decklist? or is it basically Mountains x15
Fixing now....I trust Gravemind's sayings.
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
Man, don't tell them you are building Aggro Loam or you're screwed on those goyf prices.
Anyone priced a Battle of Wits deck yet?
Nothing says budget help like receiving $5000 in recommendations.
I guess leaving out Time Walk, Timetwister, and Ancestral Recall is budget.
The rest of the deck is some combination of Seething Song, Simian Spirit Guide, Gathan Raiders, Arc-Slogger and occasionally Deus of Calamity. Of these, Deus I've only seen as a two-of and is the most expensive at like $1.50 a piece. Raiders and SSG are usually four-ofs and Slogger is what Deus sometimes replaces.
Why would we price Battle of Wits? I've never seen a competitive Legacy build of it.
As far as 'Goyf prices, that's what Star City sells him for these days, and this is supposed to show the prices from them to give you a maximum amount you should pay.
I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
here is my most current list:
Mana:
4 wasteland
4 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
4 Polluted delta
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Verdant Catacombs
Creatures:
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Tombstalker
Spells:
4 Stifle
2 Ponder
4 Daze
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Sinkhole
2 Snuff Out
2 Smother
4 Thoughtsieze
2 Pernicious Deed
Here's the list I'm running.
3 underground sea
2 bayou
2 swamp
1 island
4 polluted delta
3 verdant catacombs
// Other spells
4 entomb
4 exhume
4 brainstorm
4 reanimate
4 careful study
4 force of will
3 daze
1 show and tell
3 mystical tutor
4 thoughtseize
4 lotus petal
2 iona, shield of emeria
1 inkwell leviathan
1 empyrial archangel
1 angel of despair
1 akroma, angel of wrath
2 Echoing Truth
2 Show and Tell
1 sphinx of the steel wind
1 infest
3 krosan grip
4 extirpate
2 engineered explosives
Legacy Competitive
BUReanimatorUB
RUSneaky ShowUR(Dismantled)
GBUReanimatorUBG(Retired)
(Pre-Mystical Tutor Banning)
{RIP:July 1, 2010}
Legacy Casual
UWBag Of TricksWU
GWEnchantressWG(Budget/In construction)
WSoul SistersW
Legacy Casual - Retired
UBT.E.S. - The EGG-pic StormBU
BGrave ExistenceB
Sig by Me =)
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
Thanks!
LOL now i know how much money I spent on that deck =\
Legacy Competitive
BUReanimatorUB
RUSneaky ShowUR(Dismantled)
GBUReanimatorUBG(Retired)
(Pre-Mystical Tutor Banning)
{RIP:July 1, 2010}
Legacy Casual
UWBag Of TricksWU
GWEnchantressWG(Budget/In construction)
WSoul SistersW
Legacy Casual - Retired
UBT.E.S. - The EGG-pic StormBU
BGrave ExistenceB
Sig by Me =)
One a side note, SCG's prices for legacy has inflated ridicous amounts thanks to there 5ks. But idc which site is used to punch in the numbers.
Heroes of the Plane
The Price of Legacy
The Price of Legacy 2.0!
Decks:
EDH
Malestrom Wanderer Group Chaotic Hugs
Tasigur, The Golden Fang Valu-Town
Modern
Too many to List...
Legacy
GWBNic-Fit PodGWB
G12-Post (Building)G
4 goblin lackey (4 foil and 4 chinese)
4 goblin matron (1 foil)
4 goblin warchief (4 foil)
4 goblin ringleader (4 foil)
4 goblin piledriver (4 foil)
3 gempalm incinerator (3 foil)
2 earwig squad (2 foil)
1 bloodmark mentor (1 foil)
1 mad auntie (1 foil)
1 wort boggart auntie (1 foil)
1 goblin chieftain (1 foil)
1 stingscouger (1 foil)
1 siege-gang commander (1 jap foil)
4 aether vial (4 foil)
3 warren weirding (1 foil)
1 tarfire (1 foil)
lands
4 badlands
1 taiga
4 mountain
4 wooded foothills (1 foil)
4 bloodstained mire (1 foil)
4 wasteland
1 goblin tinkerer
1 gobling ruinblaster (1 foil)
3 leyline of the void
4 thorn of amethyst
3 krosan grib (1 foil)
3 pyrokensis
T2-
undecided
Ext
undecied
Leg-
RBGobo'sRB
RGobo'sR
Vintage-
RBGobo'sRB
my cube thread
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=203569
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Mox Diamond
4 Exploration
4 Manabond
2 Intuition
3 Gamble
4 Life from the Loam
1 Barbarian Ring
1 Glacial Chasm
4 Maze of Ith
4 Mishra's Factory
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Nantuko Monastery
1 Nomad Stadium
4 Rishadan Port
1 Savannah
3 Taiga
4 Tranquil Thicket
1 Treetop Village
3 Tropical Island
4 Wasteland
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Academy Ruins
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Is the list that came in second at the Dallas SCG 5k tournament. I'm feeling a bit too lazy to total it up, but that is a good list to use.
I currently play only two formats, what I play in them is:
Legacy: Domain Zoo, RGW Zoo, Merfolk, Solidarity, Mono Black Aggro
EDH: Kagemaro, First to Suffer