Hello everyone! Last time I had me a GMAD, I chose poorly. This time, I give you Biovisionary! Let's see what we can come up with.
1. Follow the rules.
2. Deck must be modern legal.
3. No cards over $10.
4. Don't forget to explain your add/drops.
Kicked, this allows us to reac critical mass, unkicked we can use it on something else to help assemble the combo. adding 3 as Im usure about the 10 dollar limit and if it means just single copies of cards or all together for the card.
Another idea is since were running so many clone effects, we could also go a tribal route as an alt. win
I'm not sure whether it would be better to protect the Biovisionary and his copies with shroud or with counters, so I'm gonna go with counters. Adding 4 Counterspell
Followed Footsteps- there are several enchantment routes to victory, this one is the most flexible, and slowest. Also if we end up with other creatures it'll still be decent.
Adding 2 Dual Nature. I suspect people will start picking off Clones and even Biovisionaries, when they see what we're doing. If we do it right, Dual Nature will copy the 'visionary and the clone's token will copy the 'visionary. Only downside is- if the original or even the enchantment itself to do away with the possible win.
Adding 2 Cold Storage. We can put a few 'Visionarys on Ice while we try to get the win set-up, with all the clones i suspect we're going to get- Plan A: Win using cloning effects, Plan B: Win actually using Biovisionary. and unless there's a ruling that says otherwise- Cloners exiled, can copy something when we sac the Storage.
[Play Biovisionary, exile him with Cold Storge, play a Clone/Doppleganger/whatever, exile it with Cold Storage, repeat a few more times- sacrifice Cold Storage at the end of an opponet's turn- win before they can react.]
and from the start- what's with the 3-ofs?! Voting to remove 1 Followed Footsteps and 1 Rites of Replication. With all the possible cloning effects out there, not to mention the actual Cloners, these cards feel more like contingency plans for when the clones don't stay around long enough. Rites is more so than the Followed Footsteps. FF is slow, Rites is a all-in-or-go-home.
on another note- who else thinks it'd be funny as hell to win with 20 Biovisionarys and Epic Struggle?
SELVAXRI! King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers "Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can." 375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev) Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
If this card is ever going to actually make the final 60 of a GMAD, I think this list is it.
I'll hold off just for a bit though. For now I'm going to add in a pair of Fauna Shaman. We do need an actual Visionary before we can start cloning, so this'll help us dig them out if necessary.
For now I'm going to add in a pair of Fauna Shaman.
I was just going to add that one. Shoot.
Okay, so before we go too overboard with clone effects we should make the deck function. I'm going to add 3 Coiling Oracle to give the deck a way to hold down the early game a little and possibly ramp a bit.
I agree about needing some way to find our original BV to clone. I like the Fauna Shaman, but i think it might be nicer to tutor from our hand instead of on the battlefield.
As we move along, we may toss some more 3cmc toolbox cards in there that we'll be able to search for. Plus it's a nice aerial defender if we need it.
Looks like we lost some cards after a single vote. fixed.
Also, adding my own votes to drop 1 followed footsteps and 1 rite of replication, based on reasons stated above. too slow, and too costly for the effect we want, respectively.
I am not sure exactly how to do this. Cold Storage is not Modern Legal.
That is why i really hate such stipulations- you close the door on some solid additions.
and it seems like such stipulations is so someone can try to make this deck tournament worthy.
this is Casual for pete's sake. open to all (sets and playstyles) without being restricted by preferences.
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SELVAXRI! King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers "Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can." 375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev) Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
We have 25 Creatures but nothing to drop in turn one, same with spells. So i add 4 Khalni Gardens to provide the deck with turn one chump blockers without using up card slots.
That is why i really hate such stipulations- you close the door on some solid additions.
and it seems like such stipulations is so someone can try to make this deck tournament worthy.
this is Casual for pete's sake. open to all (sets and playstyles) without being restricted by preferences.
Not everyone has access to older cards for their casual enviroments, despite the internet. This is a solid attempt to take a card newer players may have opened in a pack or two and give them some ideas or options to look at when building biovisionary.dec. I gotta say, I like cold storage though!
OP edited for clarity on format.
Also, Phyrexian Metamorph is a better Clone, and having both is just redundant. Voting to remove Clone. Let's give the slot to something else we can use.
EDIT: Taking out Cold Storage since it's not modern legal, as per the OP's instructions.
Wouldn't that work for your opponent, too? What if he has 4+ creatures in play?
that's why you play it in their turn....
when their turn reaches end step, Active player gets priority and then the trigger of his biovisionaries go to stack.
then if they do nothing, you get priority, and then your trigger goes to stack....
your trigger resolves first and you win the game regardless of how many creatures he has.
since Balder is adamant about keeping the deck modern legal, I'm amending my submission of Cold Storage to Soul Foundry, if no one has any qualms about it.
A nice, endless source of Biovisionarys- granted, we get one into our hand to imprint.
SELVAXRI! King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers "Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can." 375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev) Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
Ok I'll get on board. We need some counters to help protect biovisionary and to slow down the opponent. I'm divided between Negate and Mana Leak, so I'll go with 4 Mana Leak.
The clone familly are good but not very original and too predictable. I add 2 Infinite Reflection for an alternative way, but we need better cheap creature (like defender with draw in green for example). The mana cost in green can't be a problem.
SELVAXRI! King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers "Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can." 375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev) Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
since Balder is adamant about keeping the deck modern legal, I'm amending my submission of Cold Storage to Soul Foundry, if no one has any qualms about it.
Restriction breeds creativity?
Adding 4 Wall of Roots. Mana Ramp and a decent blocker.
"If you knew anything about the lore you'd see that they were clearly hinting that the madness on Innistrad was caused by Uncle Istvan wearing Urza's Power Armor ... tainted with Phrexyian Oil"
Graham from Loading Ready Run
1. Follow the rules.
2. Deck must be modern legal.
3. No cards over $10.
4. Don't forget to explain your add/drops.
Keep it creative and fun!
4 Biovisionary
Rite of Replication
Kicked, this allows us to reac critical mass, unkicked we can use it on something else to help assemble the combo. adding 3 as Im usure about the 10 dollar limit and if it means just single copies of cards or all together for the card.
Another idea is since were running so many clone effects, we could also go a tribal route as an alt. win
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething Spicy4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Counterspell
3 Rite of Replication
24 Vesuva
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
3 Followed Footsteps
3 Rite of Replication
24 Vesuva
EDIT: Counterspell isn't modern legal.
So Pro I have an alpha Volcanic Island
Creatures (8)
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 phantasmal image
3 Followed Footsteps
24 Vesuva
Adding 2 Dual Nature. I suspect people will start picking off Clones and even Biovisionaries, when they see what we're doing. If we do it right, Dual Nature will copy the 'visionary and the clone's token will copy the 'visionary. Only downside is- if the original or even the enchantment itself to do away with the possible win.Adding 2 Cold Storage. We can put a few 'Visionarys on Ice while we try to get the win set-up, with all the clones i suspect we're going to get- Plan A: Win using cloning effects, Plan B: Win actually using Biovisionary. and unless there's a ruling that says otherwise- Cloners exiled, can copy something when we sac the Storage.
[Play Biovisionary, exile him with Cold Storge, play a Clone/Doppleganger/whatever, exile it with Cold Storage, repeat a few more times- sacrifice Cold Storage at the end of an opponet's turn- win before they can react.]
and from the start- what's with the 3-ofs?! Voting to remove 1 Followed Footsteps and 1 Rites of Replication. With all the possible cloning effects out there, not to mention the actual Cloners, these cards feel more like contingency plans for when the clones don't stay around long enough. Rites is more so than the Followed Footsteps. FF is slow, Rites is a all-in-or-go-home.
on another note- who else thinks it'd be funny as hell to win with 20 Biovisionarys and Epic Struggle?
Shall i bring up Mask of the Mimic to fetch fro true BioVisionarys?
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
3 Rites of Replication (1 @ -1)
Enchantments (3):
3 Followed Footsteps (1 @ -1)
2 Cold Storage
Land (24)
24 Vesuva
King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
I want some way to search for the Biovisionary. Green Sun's Zenith is the obvious choice, unfortunately it is banned in Modern. Fauna Shaman, Summoner's Pact or Primal Command may be options.
Possible protection would be Mana Leak. Other good clones are Phyrexian Metamorph and Cackling Counterpart.
I will just add another Clone as it is a powerful effect even if you don't have BV out. I also agree with reducing the number of a couple cards.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Phantasmal Image
2 Rite of Replication
Enchantments (2)
2 Followed Footsteps
Land (24)
8 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
8 Mishra's Workshop
8 Bazaar of Baghdad
Standard: UWR
Modern: RDW, Twin
Legacy: I am 3 Candelabra of Tawnos from being able to build almost any tier 1 or 1.5 deck. Here are the ones I care about right now:
-Aggro: UWR/RUB/WUB/RUG/UR Delver; Affinity; Burn
-Control: Stoneblade; UWr Miracles; UB Tezzeret
-Combo: Hive Mind; Combo Elves; Omni Tell; T.E.S.
Vintage: Grixis Painter
EDH: Rith, the Awakener
If this card is ever going to actually make the final 60 of a GMAD, I think this list is it.
I'll hold off just for a bit though. For now I'm going to add in a pair of Fauna Shaman. We do need an actual Visionary before we can start cloning, so this'll help us dig them out if necessary.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Rites of Replication
Enchantments (2):
2 Followed Footsteps
Artifacts (2):
2 Cold Storage
24 Vesuva
EDH Decks:
- Reya Dawnbringer // - Mistform Ultimus // - Balthor the Defiled // - Urabrask the Hidden // - Mirri, Cat Warrior
Okay, so before we go too overboard with clone effects we should make the deck function. I'm going to add 3 Coiling Oracle to give the deck a way to hold down the early game a little and possibly ramp a bit.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
2 Rites of Replication
Enchantments (2):
2 Followed Footsteps
Artifacts (2):
2 Cold Storage
24 Vesuva
Adding 4 Drift of Phantasms primarily for the transmute effect.
As we move along, we may toss some more 3cmc toolbox cards in there that we'll be able to search for. Plus it's a nice aerial defender if we need it.
Looks like we lost some cards after a single vote. fixed.
Also, adding my own votes to drop 1 followed footsteps and 1 rite of replication, based on reasons stated above. too slow, and too costly for the effect we want, respectively.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
3 Rite of Replication (2 @ -1)
Enchantments (3):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
Artifacts (2):
2 Cold Storage
24 Vesuva
Standard: UWR
Modern: RDW, Twin
Legacy: I am 3 Candelabra of Tawnos from being able to build almost any tier 1 or 1.5 deck. Here are the ones I care about right now:
-Aggro: UWR/RUB/WUB/RUG/UR Delver; Affinity; Burn
-Control: Stoneblade; UWr Miracles; UB Tezzeret
-Combo: Hive Mind; Combo Elves; Omni Tell; T.E.S.
Vintage: Grixis Painter
EDH: Rith, the Awakener
That is why i really hate such stipulations- you close the door on some solid additions.
and it seems like such stipulations is so someone can try to make this deck tournament worthy.
this is Casual for pete's sake. open to all (sets and playstyles) without being restricted by preferences.
King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyAlso fixed the creature count, which was wrong.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
3 Rite of Replication (2 @ -1)
Enchantments (3):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
Artifacts (2):
2 Cold Storage
Land (24)
4 Khalni Garden
20 Vesuva
Not everyone has access to older cards for their casual enviroments, despite the internet. This is a solid attempt to take a card newer players may have opened in a pack or two and give them some ideas or options to look at when building biovisionary.dec. I gotta say, I like cold storage though!
OP edited for clarity on format.
$10 limit is for a single card.
Also, Phyrexian Metamorph is a better Clone, and having both is just redundant. Voting to remove Clone. Let's give the slot to something else we can use.
EDIT: Taking out Cold Storage since it's not modern legal, as per the OP's instructions.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone (-1)
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
3 Rite of Replication (2 @ -1)
2 Recollect
Enchantments (3):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
Land (24):
4 Khalni Garden
20 Vesuva
Thanks to GR @ Yavin IV Studios for the signature!
Just play it on Biovisionary with more than 4 creatures in play during your opponent's turn and you win.
Wouldn't that work for your opponent, too? What if he has 4+ creatures in play?
Thanks to GR @ Yavin IV Studios for the signature!
that's why you play it in their turn....
when their turn reaches end step, Active player gets priority and then the trigger of his biovisionaries go to stack.
then if they do nothing, you get priority, and then your trigger goes to stack....
your trigger resolves first and you win the game regardless of how many creatures he has.
A nice, endless source of Biovisionarys- granted, we get one into our hand to imprint.
as for "Biovisionary in graveyard" connundrum, Volrath's Shapeshifter could have solved that problem- but it's not Modern legal :-/. Maybe Dimir Doppleganger?
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
3 Rite of Replication (2 @ -1)
2 Recollect
Enchantments (3):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
Artifacts (2):
2 Soul Foundry
4 Khalni Garden
20 Vesuva
King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
3 Rite of Replication (2 @ -1)
2 Recollect
4 Mana Leak
Enchantments (3):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
2 Soul Foundry
Land (24)
4 Khalni Garden
20 Vesuva
Wall of Blossoms nor Jungle Barrier isn't legal in modern.
Carven Caryatid is, but i kinda like Psychic Membrane with all the clones we have running around.
King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
Restriction breeds creativity?
Adding 4 Wall of Roots. Mana Ramp and a decent blocker.
4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
4 Wall of Roots
3 Rite of Replication (2 @ -1)
2 Recollect
4 Mana Leak
Enchantments (5):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
2 Infinite Reflection
2 Soul Foundry
Land (24)
4 Khalni Garden
20 Vesuva
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4 Biovisionary
4 Clone
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
4 Wall of Roots
4 Renegade Doppelganger
2 Recollect
4 Mana Leak
Enchantments (5):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
2 Infinite Reflection
2 Soul Foundry
Land (24)
4 Khalni Garden
20 Vesuva
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4 Biovisionary
4 Clone (-1)
4 Phantasmal Image
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Fauna Shaman
3 Coiling Oracle
4 Drift of Phantasms
4 Wall of Roots
4 Renegade Doppelganger
3 Rite of Replication (2 @ -1)
2 Recollect
4 Mana Leak
Enchantments (5):
3 Followed Footsteps (2 @ -1)
2 Infinite Reflection
2 Soul Foundry
Land (24)
4 Khalni Garden
20 Vesuva
Thanks to GR @ Yavin IV Studios for the signature!