Having failed to qualify for Nationals at various points during the past
few months, I am looking to grind in an Friday. I am looking for a deck
to play that wil assure me a Top 4(as the top 4 are assured a place).
I need the collective knowledge of the MTGSalvation Forums to help me
get a deck that will get me into nationals.
Thank you
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There's no penalty for failing to sacrifice a Homonculus.
Be good at magic. If you are at the stage where you assume the list will get you a top 4 slot you aren't going to get it. If you are testing with friends, reading articles, and checking out results of every tournament that is posted, then you sould know what type of decks you are best with. In that case, play 1 of thoughs.
This really pends on how good of a player you are. If you are competent/decent you should be able to play U/W control, D-Force Titans, Dredge-uh-Vine, Mythic conscription or valakut titan without too much difficulty. If you are OK, maybe Jund or RDW is the way to go. Or you could go rogue, play a deck people aren't expecting (like 75 plains...just joking ;))
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Having failed to qualify for Nationals at various points during the past
few months, I am looking to grind in an Friday. I am looking for a deck
to play that wil assure me a Top 4(as the top 4 are assured a place).
I need the collective knowledge of the MTGSalvation Forums to help me
get a deck that will get me into nationals.
Thank you
If you're expecting to top 4 by picking a deck tested, molded, and tested again by others except you...in order to place top 4, then you expect wrong.
Just google the lists yourself. Nobody's gonna walk you through a simple search function.
Picking the right deck to win isn't just about testing, it's about knowing your own meta. A lot of times, success comes down to matchups. Where one meta might be slow, and more calculated, another meta might be faster and more aggressive. Standard is pretty wide open right now. You could just as easily run into a RDW, as you could UW control, Naya, Dredgevine, Mythic, Valakut, D. Force, Eldrazi, and the 'en vogue' Soul Sisters.
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Modern
Dredge, Evo-Chord, U/G Faeries, Living End, Something New
I would recommend Valakut with 4 maindeck Summoning Trap's and obviously 4 Primeval Titan's. The deck is mindlessly stupid. If you get a Titan in play, you win. If you don't, you lose.
There was an amazing U/B deck i saw this weekend that tried to hard cast It That betrays and runs coral merfolk.
try that one out.
This deck is really powerful and just smashes a lot of the popular decks that people will play in your grinders. Coral Merfolk is a surprisingly efficient threat and It That Betrays is an excellent finisher in a format where there is little removal, allowing you to grind out games against opponents that are proving hard to kill. I strongly recommend this deck. Valakut Titan decks have nothing on UB Coral/Betrays.
This deck is really powerful and just smashes a lot of the popular decks that people will play in your grinders. Coral Merfolk is a surprisingly efficient threat and It That Betrays is an excellent finisher in a format where there is little removal, allowing you to grind out games against opponents that are proving hard to kill. I strongly recommend this deck. Valakut Titan decks have nothing on UB Coral/Betrays.
I agree. A blue/black control deck running Coral Merfolk is definitely what I would play if I had grinders tomorrow. Blue's card draw and black's sacrifice effects let you curve up to the It That Betrays which pretty much no deck in Standard (...and maybe Extended) can beat. Play this deck, 100%, your matchups versus blue/white, Valakut, and Jund are CRAZY GOOD. Surprise factor is also in your court
You don't have to own expensive mythics to win games. Play different decks. Play Vampires, RDW, Elves / Genesis Wave, or run Jace Beleren over Jace the Mind Sculptor and build your GU deck anyway. Build a new deck or come up with a new idea, and BE CREATIVE.
I agree. A blue/black control deck running Coral Merfolk is definitely what I would play if I had grinders tomorrow. Blue's card draw and black's sacrifice effects let you curve up to the It That Betrays which pretty much no deck in Standard (...and maybe Extended) can beat. Play this deck, 100%, your matchups versus blue/white, Valakut, and Jund are CRAZY GOOD. Surprise factor is also in your court
I'm gonna assume this is a 3 way joke until I see a deck list.
If people start running Coral Merfolk, I'm gonna bust out my Hornet Sting/
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
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All of the losses I've ever had in current Standard come from Coral Merfolk. Whenever my opponent plays them I'm just about ready to scoop. I've tried everything but I think the only card that can come close is Goblin Piker, as no other creature gives you that kind of value for its cost.
Having failed to qualify for Nationals at various points during the past
few months, I am looking to grind in an Friday. I am looking for a deck
to play that wil assure me a Top 4(as the top 4 are assured a place).
I need the collective knowledge of the MTGSalvation Forums to help me
get a deck that will get me into nationals.
Thank you
You can't just pick up a deck and expect to get Top 4 (even in a grinder). You need to have experience with the deck and the meta.
I would recommend Valakut with 4 maindeck Summoning Trap's and obviously 4 Primeval Titan's. The deck is mindlessly stupid. If you get a Titan in play, you win. If you don't, you lose.
The odds are good.
You couldn't be more wrong my friend.
So long as you can afford the Primeval Titans, Valakut is a good bet. I just started playing again after 6 years and went 3-2, 4-2, and 5-1 in my first three tournaments with the deck...and haven't looked back since. Most of the losses are to misplays or aggro, which I fixed.
This deck is really powerful and just smashes a lot of the popular decks that people will play in your grinders. Coral Merfolk is a surprisingly efficient threat and It That Betrays is an excellent finisher in a format where there is little removal, allowing you to grind out games against opponents that are proving hard to kill. I strongly recommend this deck. Valakut Titan decks have nothing on UB Coral/Betrays.
Coral Merfolk sounds like a solid meta call as most opponents will be too arrogant to waste their GOOD cards just to deal with your bad ones. Think about: Will your opponent actually use Path to Exile or Day of Judgement just to remove one Grizzly Bears? Of course not, those are good cards, and are designed to be used against other good cards. Your opponent will probably save these for 'a real threat', only to find himself dead to damage before he realizes it.
The idea is to run a deck with too many bears for your opponent's removal to handle. Using different sorts of bears seems like a good idea in order to dodge Maelstrom Pulse. You have a couple options:
1) UG Tempo Bears: Mana leak, Deprive, and a bunch of efficiently costed 2/2 for 2s spell certain death for your opponent.
3) RG Smokey Bears: Use powerful, efficient burn spells like Lightning Bolt, Burst Lightning and Staggershock to clear the way for your bears to finish off your simmering opponent.
The last I heard, Mythic, dredgevine, and Titan Valakut Ramp had the best match win percentages**, each being around 65%. If you play well, those are the best options.
To be guaranteed a top 4, you need to invent a crazy powerful rogue combo deck that no one is ready for. I don't think that's possible.
**Coral/Betrays had a 100% win percentage, but the results weren't statistically significant. 75Plains.dec and 5 Color Bears also had similar results.
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-A person riding a horse cannot be stopped by foot soldiers, large animals, walls, archers, or even catapults.
5 colour bears seems like a pretty good deck to be honest
This is the best idea I've heard in months! Just imagine casting Conflux and fetching not 1, not 2 but 5(!) different bears!!!! You could even have a toolbox of different 2/2s which would make it easy to combo out, even when things are looking bad.
play mythic, utterleytons list from nats. play 4 linvala (not sure if he does or not) in board. drop the explores for baneslayer or finest hour or something
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Having failed to qualify for Nationals at various points during the past
few months, I am looking to grind in an Friday. I am looking for a deck
to play that wil assure me a Top 4(as the top 4 are assured a place).
I need the collective knowledge of the MTGSalvation Forums to help me
get a deck that will get me into nationals.
Thank you
There's no penalty for failing to sacrifice a Homonculus.
Basilisk Collar? $5.00
Shooting down a baneslayer angel? Priceless
And of the two Valakut is the more goof proof of the two assuming you know how to count to four.
Re: People misusing the term Vanilla to describe a flying, unleash (sometimes trample) critter.
There's no penalty for failing to sacrifice a Homonculus.
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This is not a good idea. You would be better served just copy pasting a pro decklist and grinding some games with it to get an idea of whats going on.
If you're expecting to top 4 by picking a deck tested, molded, and tested again by others except you...in order to place top 4, then you expect wrong.
Just google the lists yourself. Nobody's gonna walk you through a simple search function.
Picking the right deck to win isn't just about testing, it's about knowing your own meta. A lot of times, success comes down to matchups. Where one meta might be slow, and more calculated, another meta might be faster and more aggressive. Standard is pretty wide open right now. You could just as easily run into a RDW, as you could UW control, Naya, Dredgevine, Mythic, Valakut, D. Force, Eldrazi, and the 'en vogue' Soul Sisters.
Modern
Dredge, Evo-Chord, U/G Faeries, Living End, Something New
The odds are good.
try that one out.
Not really trading atm
BRVamps
This deck is really powerful and just smashes a lot of the popular decks that people will play in your grinders. Coral Merfolk is a surprisingly efficient threat and It That Betrays is an excellent finisher in a format where there is little removal, allowing you to grind out games against opponents that are proving hard to kill. I strongly recommend this deck. Valakut Titan decks have nothing on UB Coral/Betrays.
I agree. A blue/black control deck running Coral Merfolk is definitely what I would play if I had grinders tomorrow. Blue's card draw and black's sacrifice effects let you curve up to the It That Betrays which pretty much no deck in Standard (...and maybe Extended) can beat. Play this deck, 100%, your matchups versus blue/white, Valakut, and Jund are CRAZY GOOD. Surprise factor is also in your court
I'm gonna assume this is a 3 way joke until I see a deck list.
If people start running Coral Merfolk, I'm gonna bust out my Hornet Sting/
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Urge to copypasta the OP's post rising...
But in all seriousness, there's a thread for DERP WHAT DECK TO PLAY:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=224567
GMono-Green Beastmaster AggroG FNM 30-6-0
RWBoros BushwhackerRW FNM 8-2-0
EDH decks:
GMultani, Maro-SorcererG
Yeah that and Naya Shaman are the most efficent. Mythic won again at Starcitygames on the weekend, having a mirror match for the 1st place
Jund isn't a bad choice either as it consistently top 8s every tourney (another 3 this weekend).
Every deck has a bad match up against something. There was no ramp or naya in the top 8 anyways this time.
You can't just pick up a deck and expect to get Top 4 (even in a grinder). You need to have experience with the deck and the meta.
You couldn't be more wrong my friend.
So long as you can afford the Primeval Titans, Valakut is a good bet. I just started playing again after 6 years and went 3-2, 4-2, and 5-1 in my first three tournaments with the deck...and haven't looked back since. Most of the losses are to misplays or aggro, which I fixed.
Coral Merfolk sounds like a solid meta call as most opponents will be too arrogant to waste their GOOD cards just to deal with your bad ones. Think about: Will your opponent actually use Path to Exile or Day of Judgement just to remove one Grizzly Bears? Of course not, those are good cards, and are designed to be used against other good cards. Your opponent will probably save these for 'a real threat', only to find himself dead to damage before he realizes it.
The idea is to run a deck with too many bears for your opponent's removal to handle. Using different sorts of bears seems like a good idea in order to dodge Maelstrom Pulse. You have a couple options:
1) UG Tempo Bears: Mana leak, Deprive, and a bunch of efficiently costed 2/2 for 2s spell certain death for your opponent.
2) WG Bears with Collars: Use Stoneforge Mystic to fetch yourself some Basilisk Collars, and throw them on the back of bears FTW.
3) RG Smokey Bears: Use powerful, efficient burn spells like Lightning Bolt, Burst Lightning and Staggershock to clear the way for your bears to finish off your simmering opponent.
4) GWU Mythic Bears: Get out a Sovereigns of Lost Alara, then swing with any one of a dozen different bears to get out an Eldrazi Conscription and seal your opponents fate.
Or you could just run Mythic Consription, Valakut or Jund, all of which are solid well tested decks.
Playing:
Modern:
BWEldrazi and TaxesBW
Legacy:
WEldraziW
To be guaranteed a top 4, you need to invent a crazy powerful rogue combo deck that no one is ready for. I don't think that's possible.
**Coral/Betrays had a 100% win percentage, but the results weren't statistically significant. 75Plains.dec and 5 Color Bears also had similar results.
-Terror is an emotion which, when experienced, results in death.
-The pox was a disease notorious for having killed one-third, rounded up, of Europe’s population. Smallpox, on the other hand, killed only a single person.
-A person riding a horse cannot be stopped by foot soldiers, large animals, walls, archers, or even catapults.
More facts of magic
This is the best idea I've heard in months! Just imagine casting Conflux and fetching not 1, not 2 but 5(!) different bears!!!! You could even have a toolbox of different 2/2s which would make it easy to combo out, even when things are looking bad.
What a blowout.