Honest question time. Is it possible for us to not exactly be thrilled about these changes without you guys claiming that we're a vocal Internet minority and are resistant to change? There's any number of acceptable reasons why a sensible person might not like the new card frame and wouldn't qualify as a "knee-jerk reaction" or "lashing out."
I understand that Wizards has concerns about counterfeiting, but that shouldn't prevent us from not necessarily liking some of the aesthetic changes that they made.
Xen, this is your attitude every time some change comes around and people have a difference of opinion from you. It gets a little tiresome and I wish you (as one of the members with the most longevity on this site) would understand that reasonable people can come to entirely different conclusions concerning these things.
Well, it's easier to empathize when not reading hyperbole. As it is, calling most posts in this thread "concerns" is quite the euphemism.
The thing to note is that pretty much all the contrversial points are located at the bottom of the card. You know, the bit you never look at. When one holds cards the bottom is pretty much hidden. When you look at a card, the two most important area are the top line and the art. Then comes the text box. Hey! The top part is mostly unchanged (only thinner black border), the art and the text box are bigger! Then there is that thing about black: it doesn't stand out. Check it out! Look at a current card: does all that black all around that card jump at you? No. Black is very neutral, especially when everything else in tehcard is highly colored. After less than a month, the bottom of the card will be as invisible to you all as the current black border is.
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More room for art and text is always a good thing.
The new typeface for the card name looks similar enough to the previous one (Matrix Bold). It does feel unique, with that stem on the F dropping below the baseline, and I'm sure we'll all get used to it quick enough. It's a bit of an odd change, but I suppose having a proprietary font like this is one more anti-counterfeiting device. It's still a VAST improvement over the unreadable font they used to use.
Not sure how I feel about the holofoil stamp. On the one hand I understand why they did it (anti-counterfeit device) and it also kind of makes these cards feel more like the Upper Deck cards I used to collect when I was a kid, with those cool holofoil markers on them. On the other hand, I can see why artists who do alters would be hindered by this. Being merely a player and not an artist, I don't mind the stamps. It'll make rares and mythics feel a little bit cooler, I think.
The card information at the bottom is a neat feature.
That asymmetrical, rounded black border, though? It just doesn't sit well with me. We'll all get used to it in time and we might eventually think that the current black border looks stupid, but this new border looks friggin weird. It might look pretty cool on white cards, but it just looks too "postmodern" for me.
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Nice. I was saying in another how I wish they would finally indicate rarity on tokens and emblems instead of all of them showing up as common. M15 would be the good time to start doing it this way.
That's probably not the only change they'll make to tokens as it isn't exactly a "facelift". My guess is that they'll go for a more "full art" approach, as well as using a smaller box for the tokens with abilities.
Another cool thing would be if emblems used original arts rather than just the planeswalker's face. Would be nice.
When one holds cards the bottom is pretty much hidden. When you look at a card, the two most important area are the top line and the art. Then comes the text box. Hey! The top part is mostly unchanged (only thinner black border), the art and the text box are bigger! Then there is that thing about black: it doesn't stand out. Check it out!
Except you don't hold your cards in hand all the time. Sooner or later they hit the table and then you have to stare at that black emptiness.
Look at a current card: does all that black all around that card jump at you?
Yes, it's actually the first thing I notice now. As I said earlier, the cards look like they are all misprinted. They are not elegant any more. When I was holding Magic cards before, I felt like playing with some mysterious and powerful spells, torn from an old spellbook. Now they feel like some super modern coupons from a video game.
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I did mention a while back in a old thread that wizards would do something like this and that this would turn into ultra modern i.e modern turns into the new legacy and that this would take moderns place.
The reasons they changed the frame aren't really that great and one kinda gets a pity apprehensive at the thought of a frame change. So yeah in before new modern.
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oops, well my point still stands on the writer is either lying or R&D is just oblivious to legacy.
It didn't have much of an impact on Modern other than Voice of Resurgence, it had a bunch of horrible cards (Emmara Tandris, Trait Doctoring), did a bad job with the story, and was trying to do too much in general. However, I must admit that Breaking // Entering is one of my favorite cards in the game.
No gatecrash had a bunch of horrible cards, pretty much every dimir card not nightveil specter is broken (as in won't function even casually) or just extremely up.
DGM had a bad job with Tandris and Trait doctoring I admit but I don't think you could blame the story's shortcommings on dgm and the set is full of cards that look like they could be playable down the road or at least a casual favorite like breaking/entering, most the guild champs (I mean melek, runic tar, varolz, etc were all very cool designs. About the only dudes is emmera which is partially voice's fault and Teysa who they just made too expensive.) The set didn't have much for chase rares but it has alot of interesting rares that I honestly thought were well designed.
I just am annoyed that I can't get good colorfixing in Standard anymore. And I was hoping for one of the incomplete cycles that needs to be completed to be completed (Horizon Canopy, Nimbus Maze, Scars lands, Manlands).
WOTC stated they didn't want too much fixing and between shocks, gates, and scrylands there is about all the fixing anyone could need (albiet aggro gets shafted hard by the amount of cipt lands).
Not as many as the RTR cards that were playable last Standard. I'd love a monoclor block, but doing it right after a multicolor block was not a good move in my opinion.
The point is they did it right after hybrid mana's return which leads for some interesting design. Also the fact that mono colored options are limited because of the RTR multicolor theme allows them to push the envelope a bit. I think the gods would've all been overpowered if this was a Lor/theros block standand. Diluted mana helps keep the gods from being overpowered as is.
Trait Doctoring is playable no where, but it's our obligatory color change card they shove in every multicolor block. People need to get over it.
My problem with trait doctoring is the card is literally broken in that it does not function how it should. It only changes a color till end of turn and that basically means not only does it have a do nothing ability, but as a sorcery that needs a creature to hit every turn to just maintain its effect its the worse sleigh of mind variant of all time. I'm sure the EOT clause is for complexity sake and not power level but that is why this card should not have been printed. If the ability on your cipher spell literally can't work with cipher you should get another ability.
Paranoid Delusions is part of the mill theme that is associated with Dimir. It's only playable in the mill deck, but that's mill in general unless it's some massive mill card that probably ends a limited game instantly.
The problem is cipher just doesn't work well with mill as mill wants to avoid creatures as much as possible traditionally. And 3 is such a low number, basically the card is just too up to be playable and that sums up the entire dimir guild except for nightveil. There are literally no playables in that guild other than nightveil.
If they were going to change the border and stuff like that, they should have changed it to Future Sight cards or Planar Chaos cards.
This is a technical change, its intended to increase functionality with sacrificing as little of the ascetic as possible. So using the other frames would do nothing towards this as they all have the same issue as the current frame.
A lot of you have said you disagree with counterfeit explanation because "all the cards people counterfeit are old". This simply isn't true. Standard chase rares are counterfeited all the time. The reason being, they're MUCH more easier to sell than say, a power 9. That, and the buyer is less likely to examine the card closely, like they'd do for an older, more expensive card.
So if you think about it logically, this makes perfect sense. They're making it that much harder for people to counterfeit cards that are currently selling like hotcakes, which are normally rare/mythic rares in Standard.
Also, I think we should stop debating about gatecrash cards and discuss the topic at hand.
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Not sure if anyone did this already (didn't read the whole thread) but here is a side-by-side comparison. Sure the black bottom is certainly different and will take some getting used to but it makes the P/T numbers stand out more, easier to read the artist/set info and the art and text is clearly larger. Not a huge difference but it's growing on me already.
Honest question time. Is it possible for us to not exactly be thrilled about these changes without you guys claiming that we're a vocal Internet minority and are resistant to change? There's any number of acceptable reasons why a sensible person might not like the new card frame and wouldn't qualify as a "knee-jerk reaction" or "lashing out."
I understand that Wizards has concerns about counterfeiting, but that shouldn't prevent us from not necessarily liking some of the aesthetic changes that they made.
Xen, this is your attitude every time some change comes around and people have a difference of opinion from you. It gets a little tiresome and I wish you (as one of the members with the most longevity on this site) would understand that reasonable people can come to entirely different conclusions concerning these things.
This would be believable if it weren't often conveniently the same people yelling foul for every change that turns up; or if every announcement and every spoiler, change or announcement didn't result in doomsayers and self-important players pouring out of the woodworks to vehemently argue while never more times than not missing the mark and creating intelligent discussion that takes into account facts rather than speculation and conspiracy theories. And all that, in turn, is a telling sign that it's not simply a matter of opinion or disliking the change but often complaining for the sake of complaining; and too many arguments made which are depending on hyperbole as a tool to shove aside the message from the source and reasoning presented. I can see this and can be sensible and understanding of the changes because I've been around long enough to know that the overreaction or overwhelming negativity and doomsday claims never come to fruition.
I was here 11 years ago when the 8th Edition card face change was announced and the screaming of bloody murder and doomsayers that followed. I've been here through Infect, DFC cards, Eldrazi, an all-creature set, Cawblade, Mythic rarity being introduced, Standard Affinity, poorly received japanese mythology flavor, a Black-focused set, and many many other things that people claimed were going to be the death of Magic or that the internet masses reacted poorly to. But here we are, still here playing Magic (and some people who stopped playing whom just stick around like a bad odor to complain).
Personally I have no stake in any individual of R&D and am not a "fan" of anyone, but I discovered a long time ago that most complaints that people want to pass off as opinions are most often either founded on sheer ignorance or for the sake of complaining (while providing exceedingly embarrassing attempts at real world analogies and other nonsense that clouds reason). If I'm jaded towards the MTGS community response to every set, spoiler and change, it's because the negative feedback is always so disproportional to the change at hand and there's so little constructive feedback that it's a wonder you can ever tell the signal from the noise. If the arguments against things were actually sensible or reasonable and didn't ignore the facts most of the time so as to press forward with conspiracy theories and other nonsense, I wouldn't have a reason to be here injecting some sensibility (ignoring that it often falls upon deaf ears). So that I stand firm on the grounds of sensibility in the storm of teeth gnashing and feet stamping isn't the real issue here, but that reason is often lost or clouded by too many whom ignore the facts and fabricate their own when they don't like an answer (which means they remain ignorant and uneducated).
Not sure if anyone did this already (didn't read the whole thread) but here is a side-by-side comparison. Sure the black bottom is certainly different and will take some getting used to but it makes the P/T numbers stand out more, easier to read the artist/set info and the art and text is clearly larger. Not a huge difference but it's growing on me already.
I still do not like the change, since the card in the left appears more uniform, as if it is one item; a red rectangle with a black border; a singular entity. The card on the right appears as if the red rectangle is floating above a field of black, as if they are separate entities.
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I don't like the border change. I'm rational enough to know that I don't spend much time looking at the bottom of a magic card, that I fan them when I hold them in my hands, and that it ultimately won't matter much. But it still bugs me.
The holo-foil change is smart, as its getting way too easy to forge magic cards and that makes me wary of buying online. Good change, in my opinion.
The font needed to go for a long time. Not sure if I like the new "Beleren" font yet. I feel like they could have gone bigger! Made something more noticeable and magic-y. Alas.
Designer credit is cool, definitely think it should be at the bottom of the card, not used where flavor text belongs.
Xenphire: thank you for that post. I agree that some people will complain about nearly anything, and that some people also have a tendency to react drastically to even the most minor of changes. I am certain that after those people have vented their frustration for some time, they shall become calm and gradually accept the changes.
However, while I have previously ignored people speaking against changes in this game, the one time that I did agree with those people was when WotC changed the "legend rule" in Magic 2014. That was definitely a poor decision by WotC, in my opinion, and I do wish that they would undo it, if that were possible.
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Not sure if anyone did this already (didn't read the whole thread) but here is a side-by-side comparison. Sure the black bottom is certainly different and will take some getting used to but it makes the P/T numbers stand out more, easier to read the artist/set info and the art and text is clearly larger. Not a huge difference but it's growing on me already.
I like the new frame. Looking at them side by side reminds me how the old border, when you looked at the card you looked at the whole card without focusing in on anything. With the new frame, you focus on the upper part of the card and more on the art. Plus the reasons they gave are completely appropriate. My friend bought counterfeits from China recently; the problem in other countries might be greater. Also, bigger art and more text? All pluses. The ONLY thing I'm not sure on is the holofoil. And the font is also a light change that will tie everything together nicely.
A lot of people will complain just from any change even if the change is for the best. When will people accept the fact that Wizards know what they're doing.
20 extra cards, and the tacky designer credit got me thinking, what are all the possible cards that could have designer credit, assuming they wont put Wizards employees as designer?
Not a fan of the new frame. I like the anti counterfeiting mark, but why did the frame have to be asymmetrical, with the text box jutting out like that? I'll live with it sure, but I don't like it.
20 extra cards, and the tacky designer credit got me thinking, what are all the possible cards that could have designer credit, assuming they wont put Wizards employees as designer?
Honest question time. Is it possible for us to not exactly be thrilled about these changes without you guys claiming that we're a vocal Internet minority and are resistant to change? There's any number of acceptable reasons why a sensible person might not like the new card frame and wouldn't qualify as a "knee-jerk reaction" or "lashing out."
I understand that Wizards has concerns about counterfeiting, but that shouldn't prevent us from not necessarily liking some of the aesthetic changes that they made.
Xen, this is your attitude every time some change comes around and people have a difference of opinion from you. It gets a little tiresome and I wish you (as one of the members with the most longevity on this site) would understand that reasonable people can come to entirely different conclusions concerning these things.
To be fair I saw complaints when the following happened by the majority of players I knew and/or comments online.
6th Edition Rules Changes and Removal of Interrupts
8th Edition Card Face Changes
Double-Sided Cards in Innistrad
Legendary Rule Change in Champions of Kamigawa
Legendary/Planeswalker Rule Change in M14
Future Sight Future Shifted Borders
Nearly every major change brings a parade of boos from the audience. Yet, surprise surprise I still see the majority of the same players no matter what happens.
Maybe that means that we are getting full art tokens?
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Well, it's easier to empathize when not reading hyperbole. As it is, calling most posts in this thread "concerns" is quite the euphemism.
The thing to note is that pretty much all the contrversial points are located at the bottom of the card. You know, the bit you never look at. When one holds cards the bottom is pretty much hidden. When you look at a card, the two most important area are the top line and the art. Then comes the text box. Hey! The top part is mostly unchanged (only thinner black border), the art and the text box are bigger! Then there is that thing about black: it doesn't stand out. Check it out! Look at a current card: does all that black all around that card jump at you? No. Black is very neutral, especially when everything else in tehcard is highly colored. After less than a month, the bottom of the card will be as invisible to you all as the current black border is.
That's a feature on all Modern-border cards-
it's just more noticeable on 2-color cards.
Since you can see it on the two cards presented here, I wouldn't worry
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The new typeface for the card name looks similar enough to the previous one (Matrix Bold). It does feel unique, with that stem on the F dropping below the baseline, and I'm sure we'll all get used to it quick enough. It's a bit of an odd change, but I suppose having a proprietary font like this is one more anti-counterfeiting device. It's still a VAST improvement over the unreadable font they used to use.
Not sure how I feel about the holofoil stamp. On the one hand I understand why they did it (anti-counterfeit device) and it also kind of makes these cards feel more like the Upper Deck cards I used to collect when I was a kid, with those cool holofoil markers on them. On the other hand, I can see why artists who do alters would be hindered by this. Being merely a player and not an artist, I don't mind the stamps. It'll make rares and mythics feel a little bit cooler, I think.
The card information at the bottom is a neat feature.
That asymmetrical, rounded black border, though? It just doesn't sit well with me. We'll all get used to it in time and we might eventually think that the current black border looks stupid, but this new border looks friggin weird. It might look pretty cool on white cards, but it just looks too "postmodern" for me.
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Nice. I was saying in another how I wish they would finally indicate rarity on tokens and emblems instead of all of them showing up as common. M15 would be the good time to start doing it this way.
That's probably not the only change they'll make to tokens as it isn't exactly a "facelift". My guess is that they'll go for a more "full art" approach, as well as using a smaller box for the tokens with abilities.
Another cool thing would be if emblems used original arts rather than just the planeswalker's face. Would be nice.
Why change the cards in the first place?
Except you don't hold your cards in hand all the time. Sooner or later they hit the table and then you have to stare at that black emptiness.
Yes, it's actually the first thing I notice now. As I said earlier, the cards look like they are all misprinted. They are not elegant any more. When I was holding Magic cards before, I felt like playing with some mysterious and powerful spells, torn from an old spellbook. Now they feel like some super modern coupons from a video game.
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I did mention a while back in a old thread that wizards would do something like this and that this would turn into ultra modern i.e modern turns into the new legacy and that this would take moderns place.
The reasons they changed the frame aren't really that great and one kinda gets a pity apprehensive at the thought of a frame change. So yeah in before new modern.
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Though I'll put it in a small font.
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YES.
I'm also totally cool with losing the PW symbol stencil as well,
Or at least making it larger.
I wouldn't hold my breath on token rarities though,
as they are frequently made by cards of different rarities.
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oops, well my point still stands on the writer is either lying or R&D is just oblivious to legacy.
No gatecrash had a bunch of horrible cards, pretty much every dimir card not nightveil specter is broken (as in won't function even casually) or just extremely up.
DGM had a bad job with Tandris and Trait doctoring I admit but I don't think you could blame the story's shortcommings on dgm and the set is full of cards that look like they could be playable down the road or at least a casual favorite like breaking/entering, most the guild champs (I mean melek, runic tar, varolz, etc were all very cool designs. About the only dudes is emmera which is partially voice's fault and Teysa who they just made too expensive.) The set didn't have much for chase rares but it has alot of interesting rares that I honestly thought were well designed.
WOTC stated they didn't want too much fixing and between shocks, gates, and scrylands there is about all the fixing anyone could need (albiet aggro gets shafted hard by the amount of cipt lands).
The point is they did it right after hybrid mana's return which leads for some interesting design. Also the fact that mono colored options are limited because of the RTR multicolor theme allows them to push the envelope a bit. I think the gods would've all been overpowered if this was a Lor/theros block standand. Diluted mana helps keep the gods from being overpowered as is.
My problem with trait doctoring is the card is literally broken in that it does not function how it should. It only changes a color till end of turn and that basically means not only does it have a do nothing ability, but as a sorcery that needs a creature to hit every turn to just maintain its effect its the worse sleigh of mind variant of all time. I'm sure the EOT clause is for complexity sake and not power level but that is why this card should not have been printed. If the ability on your cipher spell literally can't work with cipher you should get another ability.
The problem is cipher just doesn't work well with mill as mill wants to avoid creatures as much as possible traditionally. And 3 is such a low number, basically the card is just too up to be playable and that sums up the entire dimir guild except for nightveil. There are literally no playables in that guild other than nightveil.
This is a technical change, its intended to increase functionality with sacrificing as little of the ascetic as possible. So using the other frames would do nothing towards this as they all have the same issue as the current frame.
So if you think about it logically, this makes perfect sense. They're making it that much harder for people to counterfeit cards that are currently selling like hotcakes, which are normally rare/mythic rares in Standard.
Also, I think we should stop debating about gatecrash cards and discuss the topic at hand.
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This would be believable if it weren't often conveniently the same people yelling foul for every change that turns up; or if every announcement and every spoiler, change or announcement didn't result in doomsayers and self-important players pouring out of the woodworks to vehemently argue while never more times than not missing the mark and creating intelligent discussion that takes into account facts rather than speculation and conspiracy theories. And all that, in turn, is a telling sign that it's not simply a matter of opinion or disliking the change but often complaining for the sake of complaining; and too many arguments made which are depending on hyperbole as a tool to shove aside the message from the source and reasoning presented. I can see this and can be sensible and understanding of the changes because I've been around long enough to know that the overreaction or overwhelming negativity and doomsday claims never come to fruition.
I was here 11 years ago when the 8th Edition card face change was announced and the screaming of bloody murder and doomsayers that followed. I've been here through Infect, DFC cards, Eldrazi, an all-creature set, Cawblade, Mythic rarity being introduced, Standard Affinity, poorly received japanese mythology flavor, a Black-focused set, and many many other things that people claimed were going to be the death of Magic or that the internet masses reacted poorly to. But here we are, still here playing Magic (and some people who stopped playing whom just stick around like a bad odor to complain).
Personally I have no stake in any individual of R&D and am not a "fan" of anyone, but I discovered a long time ago that most complaints that people want to pass off as opinions are most often either founded on sheer ignorance or for the sake of complaining (while providing exceedingly embarrassing attempts at real world analogies and other nonsense that clouds reason). If I'm jaded towards the MTGS community response to every set, spoiler and change, it's because the negative feedback is always so disproportional to the change at hand and there's so little constructive feedback that it's a wonder you can ever tell the signal from the noise. If the arguments against things were actually sensible or reasonable and didn't ignore the facts most of the time so as to press forward with conspiracy theories and other nonsense, I wouldn't have a reason to be here injecting some sensibility (ignoring that it often falls upon deaf ears). So that I stand firm on the grounds of sensibility in the storm of teeth gnashing and feet stamping isn't the real issue here, but that reason is often lost or clouded by too many whom ignore the facts and fabricate their own when they don't like an answer (which means they remain ignorant and uneducated).
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I still do not like the change, since the card in the left appears more uniform, as if it is one item; a red rectangle with a black border; a singular entity. The card on the right appears as if the red rectangle is floating above a field of black, as if they are separate entities.
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The holo-foil change is smart, as its getting way too easy to forge magic cards and that makes me wary of buying online. Good change, in my opinion.
The font needed to go for a long time. Not sure if I like the new "Beleren" font yet. I feel like they could have gone bigger! Made something more noticeable and magic-y. Alas.
Designer credit is cool, definitely think it should be at the bottom of the card, not used where flavor text belongs.
Waste Not looks good, I'll be trading for it!
However, while I have previously ignored people speaking against changes in this game, the one time that I did agree with those people was when WotC changed the "legend rule" in Magic 2014. That was definitely a poor decision by WotC, in my opinion, and I do wish that they would undo it, if that were possible.
“When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”-Thomas Jefferson
“A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of its user.”-Theodore Roosevelt
“Patriotism means to stand by one's country; it does not mean to stand by one's president.”-Theodore Roosevelt
I like the new frame. Looking at them side by side reminds me how the old border, when you looked at the card you looked at the whole card without focusing in on anything. With the new frame, you focus on the upper part of the card and more on the art. Plus the reasons they gave are completely appropriate. My friend bought counterfeits from China recently; the problem in other countries might be greater. Also, bigger art and more text? All pluses. The ONLY thing I'm not sure on is the holofoil. And the font is also a light change that will tie everything together nicely.
A lot of people will complain just from any change even if the change is for the best. When will people accept the fact that Wizards know what they're doing.
What else? EDIT: According to MaRo's blog, the extra 20 is Uncommons for better Limited play.
My custom sets:
Caeia Block (Released - Beta)
Generals of Dareth (In Design)
I am positive that they aren't bringing back Dark Confidant, Snapcaster Mage (both are too powerful), or Avalanche Riders (uses Echo) in M15, and I highly doubt that that they are bringing back Sylvan Safekeeper (uses Shroud), Shadowmage Infiltrator, Meddling Mage, Rakdos Augermage (they all use multicolor), or Voidmage Progidy (Wizard tribal unfortunately isn't a core set theme). I could see the others being reprinted.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
We only know two cards from this Core Set, so for all we know, Wizard tribal could be a theme.
- Main Cube
- No Brains, All Feelings Cube
To be fair I saw complaints when the following happened by the majority of players I knew and/or comments online.
6th Edition Rules Changes and Removal of Interrupts
8th Edition Card Face Changes
Double-Sided Cards in Innistrad
Legendary Rule Change in Champions of Kamigawa
Legendary/Planeswalker Rule Change in M14
Future Sight Future Shifted Borders
Nearly every major change brings a parade of boos from the audience. Yet, surprise surprise I still see the majority of the same players no matter what happens.
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