Black got shafted for the Hideaway lands from Lorwyn, with blue being a close second (Howltooth Hollow, Shelldock Isle). Similarly, the creatures associated with those lands are also kinda crap (Hollowborn Barghest, Isleback Spawn). White got the best (as in easiest to activate) hideaway land with Windbrisk Heights, and red got the best associated creature with Knollspine Dragon. Oh! Speaking of lands, I'd say that Sapseep Forest is the worst of the nonbasic "basics" from Shadowmoor, with white getting the best in Mistveil Plains.
This is probably one of the only times in magic that red didn't get the shaft straight up. Yeah, blue is still miles ahead of everyone, but at least green and white are meh at best.
One of those cards is banned and the other four don't make that big of a dent in multiplayer. But I'd say Healing Salve is still the worst.
Phil, why do you complain so much about cycles and colors in magic?
You play the best shard in magic besides BUG, but lets face it, BUG Is Blue Jund, and Esper is Blue-Rock.
All these shards are just combinations of Jund AND BUG.
BUG= Blue Jund
RUG= Red BUG
Esper= Blue Rock
Grixis= Red Esper
Dimir=Mono-Black splash Blue
RBW=Black Boros
America=Red Azorios
Any deck you play can be good if you want to douche it up like playing Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Grim Monolith, Memory Jar, Wurmciol Engine, Staff of Domination, Crucible of Worlds, Top. All those cards can make any deck in EDH good because they are good cards. If a color pie gets the shaft, make it up with broken cards on some banlist in magic's history.
Bacon Cycle: I think I gotta say Bacon of Destruction just because it really does nothing special for it's mana cost, but the green one is close behind.
Hunted Cycle: Hmmm, probably Hunted Horror. The trade off seems harder to manage than the others.
Echoing Cycle: Echoing Calm because outside of shenanigans enchantments are the least likely to be cloned in number.
Titans: Frost Titan has never impressed me functionally in EDH. It looks badass though.
Ones that I have not played the entire cycle of are:
I have played a few of them, though looking over them I think I have played the blue black and green the least, but that is just a first pass generalization.
All of the Praetors have their uses, but Urabrask might have to be the worst because so many other haste-granting effects exist at cheaper costs (and his second ability only works for a single turn).
His second ability is also available at cheaper costs with broader application. 5 mana to make creatures ETB tapped vs. 2 mana for artifacts and creatures (Blind Obedience) or 4 mana for artifacts/creatures/lands (Kismet/Frozen Aether)
Actually, for EDH, I'd say Shelldock Isle is worse than Howltooth Hollow; getting a deck down to 20 cards is much harder than getting everyone's hand down to 0 (o hai, Myojin and Mindslicer!)
I find Spinerock Knoll and Mosswort Bridge easier to activate than Windbrisk Heights; Windbrisk can only be used on your turn, no earlier than your declare attackers step, and only if you can Battalion it up. Spinerock, OTOH, can be used during opponents' turns so long as you're not the one who has the damage being pointed their way, and Mosswort can be used at any time, for a fairly trivial condition. (That said, Mosswort is probably the easiest to prevent, since reducing the total power below 10 in response makes the ability do nothing.)
Surprisingly, blue ended up with the worst when it comes to the Titan cycle. Frost Titan just isn't that great.
Frost Titan's strength lies in shutting down the other four titans (if they don't untap, the don't get to attack and trigger again). In EDH, though, you just don't get to see the other three (since Primetime is banned) frequently enough to warrant his inclusion.
Phil, why do you complain so much about cycles and colors in magic?
You play the best shard in magic besides BUG, but lets face it, BUG Is Blue Jund, and Esper is Blue-Rock.
All these shards are just combinations of Jund AND BUG.
BUG= Blue Jund
RUG= Red BUG
Esper= Blue Rock
Grixis= Red Esper
Dimir=Mono-Black splash Blue
RBW=Black Boros
America=Red Azorios
Any deck you play can be good if you want to douche it up like playing Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Grim Monolith, Memory Jar, Wurmciol Engine, Staff of Domination, Crucible of Worlds, Top. All those cards can make any deck in EDH good because they are good cards. If a color pie gets the shaft, make it up with broken cards on some banlist in magic's history.
When did I complain!?
My man, chill pills. Get a prescription. Eat them.
I was just asking the boards opinion on what colors made out on a cycle and what colors got the high hard one.
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Nobody has mentioned the Shadowmoor 'Reflection' cycle yet. I think green got the best (Mana Reflection) with blue next (Thought Reflection). Wound Reflection is surprisingly powerful but I don't see it used very often for whatever reason. Rage Reflection can be good in some decks (I like it in my Purphoros token aggro deck) and Boon Reflection is very weak outside of dedicated lifegain decks.
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Current Modern decks BGW Junk / URB Grixis Shadow / RGB Lantern Control / WUBCBant Eldrazi
Current Legacy decks BUG Shardless BUG / UWR Predict Miracles / RUG Canadian Thresh / WRBG 4c Loam UB Reanimator
M13 legends: Krenko is the only one I've seen get much love, but Talrand and Yeva can be good in the right decks. Neferox is the odd 6 drop in a 4 mana cycle, and he's not even all that powerful. Also, we all know Bolas is the true Overlord of Grixis, so he's even a liar too.
Entomber Exarch and Brutilizer Exarch are sweet utility or decent disruption. If it wasn't for Kiki-Jiki, the blue one would lose, but since that card exists I'll have to say Inquisitor Exarch just doesn't do enough to make the cut.
I would agree that it is the worst of the cycle. Surprisingly, blue ended up with the worst when it comes to the Titan cycle. Frost Titan just isn't that great.
I like Evolution Charm the best because giving mono green flying at instant speed has won me the game multiple times. Piracy Charm is probably the worst.
Perhaps in EDH, though in other formats it is pretty sweet for blue to have instant-speed discard. Actually, it really does give mono-blue EDH access to some needed things, albeit at low power. I think Midnight Charm is far worse.
My man, chill pills. Get a prescription. Eat them.
I was just asking the boards opinion on what colors made out on a cycle and what colors got the high hard one.
Phil, let's be clear. You complain all the time.
You complained about Bane of Progress weeks before it was released. I agree with you on some points, but not all your arguments on why it's broken.
Deal with it, Bane of Progress is a Green vanilla fatty; I even play it because it's so good. There is no point in complaining on how to change cards, just learn to abuse or prevent it.
Red has had a long history of getting the shaft; Wizards thought Red was too broken was Goblins ruled standard. They even banned Goblin Lackey because it was so "broken".
I really hope they make another black planeswalker. Liliana of the Veil was the last good black planeswalker.
Only? Goblin Welder has enabled some of the most broken artifact shenanigans in its time.
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Going to have to second this. Goblin Welder is pretty bonkers.
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Annul is really good in EDH
One of those cards is banned and the other four don't make that big of a dent in multiplayer. But I'd say Healing Salve is still the worst.
Fixed. Let's be really real about it.
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Purity, Guile, Dread, Hostility, Vigor
Vigor's probably the clear winner for strongest, but what about the worst? I'm leaning towards Purity here.
Phil, why do you complain so much about cycles and colors in magic?
You play the best shard in magic besides BUG, but lets face it, BUG Is Blue Jund, and Esper is Blue-Rock.
All these shards are just combinations of Jund AND BUG.
BUG= Blue Jund
RUG= Red BUG
Esper= Blue Rock
Grixis= Red Esper
Dimir=Mono-Black splash Blue
RBW=Black Boros
America=Red Azorios
Any deck you play can be good if you want to douche it up like playing Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Grim Monolith, Memory Jar, Wurmciol Engine, Staff of Domination, Crucible of Worlds, Top. All those cards can make any deck in EDH good because they are good cards. If a color pie gets the shaft, make it up with broken cards on some banlist in magic's history.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
Hunted Cycle: Hmmm, probably Hunted Horror. The trade off seems harder to manage than the others.
Echoing Cycle: Echoing Calm because outside of shenanigans enchantments are the least likely to be cloned in number.
Titans: Frost Titan has never impressed me functionally in EDH. It looks badass though.
Ones that I have not played the entire cycle of are:
Magus of the Land Cycle:
Magus of the Enchantment Cycle:
Magus of the Artifact Cycle:
I have played a few of them, though looking over them I think I have played the blue black and green the least, but that is just a first pass generalization.
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Actually, for EDH, I'd say Shelldock Isle is worse than Howltooth Hollow; getting a deck down to 20 cards is much harder than getting everyone's hand down to 0 (o hai, Myojin and Mindslicer!)
I find Spinerock Knoll and Mosswort Bridge easier to activate than Windbrisk Heights; Windbrisk can only be used on your turn, no earlier than your declare attackers step, and only if you can Battalion it up. Spinerock, OTOH, can be used during opponents' turns so long as you're not the one who has the damage being pointed their way, and Mosswort can be used at any time, for a fairly trivial condition. (That said, Mosswort is probably the easiest to prevent, since reducing the total power below 10 in response makes the ability do nothing.)
Frost Titan's strength lies in shutting down the other four titans (if they don't untap, the don't get to attack and trigger again). In EDH, though, you just don't get to see the other three (since Primetime is banned) frequently enough to warrant his inclusion.
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When did I complain!?
My man, chill pills. Get a prescription. Eat them.
I was just asking the boards opinion on what colors made out on a cycle and what colors got the high hard one.
The EDH stax primer
When you absolutely, positively got to kill every permanent in the room, accept no substitutes.
BGW Junk / URB Grixis Shadow / RGB Lantern Control / WUBCBant Eldrazi
Current Legacy decks
BUG Shardless BUG / UWR Predict Miracles / RUG Canadian Thresh / WRBG 4c Loam
UB Reanimator
Of the legendary God weapons, I'd say Bident of Thassa or Whip of Erebos are probably the best, while Hammer of Purphoros is just an ok haste enabler.
Out of the m14 iconic creatures I'd say Scourge of Valkas and Archangel of Thune are probably the best for being combo pieces/enablers and Windreader Sphinx is just not very impressive.
M13 legends: Krenko is the only one I've seen get much love, but Talrand and Yeva can be good in the right decks. Neferox is the odd 6 drop in a 4 mana cycle, and he's not even all that powerful. Also, we all know Bolas is the true Overlord of Grixis, so he's even a liar too.
Entomber Exarch and Brutilizer Exarch are sweet utility or decent disruption. If it wasn't for Kiki-Jiki, the blue one would lose, but since that card exists I'll have to say Inquisitor Exarch just doesn't do enough to make the cut.
Green Sun's Zenith is undoubtedly the strongest of them (banned in modern and made FTV 20). Red Sun's Zenith is also undoubtedly the worst of them.
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The worst card in any color cycle is the red one, unless another color has lifegain as its differentiating effect.
It's not absolute, but I'd bet at least 80% of cycles hold to this rule.
Poor red. You are the least favorite child.
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Lol Frost Titan is amazing, imo all the titans are amazing, except for Inferno and Grave. Inferno being decent and Grave being jank.
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Fury Charm
Evolution Charm
Dawn Charm
Midnight Charm
Piracy Charm
I like Evolution Charm the best because giving mono green flying at instant speed has won me the game multiple times. Piracy Charm is probably the worst.
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Phil, let's be clear. You complain all the time.
You complained about Bane of Progress weeks before it was released. I agree with you on some points, but not all your arguments on why it's broken.
Deal with it, Bane of Progress is a Green vanilla fatty; I even play it because it's so good. There is no point in complaining on how to change cards, just learn to abuse or prevent it.
Red has had a long history of getting the shaft; Wizards thought Red was too broken was Goblins ruled standard. They even banned Goblin Lackey because it was so "broken".
I really hope they make another black planeswalker. Liliana of the Veil was the last good black planeswalker.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
Hey, Grave Titan can enable a few combos. Don't count him out.
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Grave Titan has the best art.
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(U/R)(R/G)(G/U) STEALIN' WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUYIN'
I'd say that Grave is only just behind Sun, as far as (non-banned) titans go. I'd play Inferno, before I played Frost.
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