Looks like kaburi, ria, Teia, Wheat and myself are all willing to lynch either KK or Void, but I would prefer to get Void. Jay and BV have said they would rather lynch Void. So...let's just lynch Void.
I'm not sure why Wheat called BV town - he made a meandering argument that made no sense and gave up in the end. What's town about that?
KK, I don't think you're getting lynched today, so I imagine you can present your case tomorrow, but if you really want us to look at your reads, can you provide an updated T/S list?
Void, you weren't very active at the end of Day 1, so I couldn't find any specific information on this. What were your reads on Wheat and Iso at the end of the Day?
Hey I forgot that I asked this but there was a reason for it, answer plz Void
Sometimes the truth is harsh, and while I'm all for tact, I'm sick of being called scum for poor/no reasoning, especially by the experienced players.
This goes especially for wheat because his case on me is assuming I'm terrible at playing scum, which makes no sense because he nominated me for scum player of the year 2012.
And what are you talking about GM? Presenting my case tomorrow? I've been presenting my case all Day, and you're one of the people who has been ignoring it.
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Yes, you've made it quite clear you're going to be useless this game
lol
starting with shooting a player no one agreed with your read on before even getting his claim
Which I acknowledged was a mistake and is based partly on a pathological need to catch scum!Iso and thus will not affect my play for the rest of the game.
and continuing on through toDay where you join bad wagons
Wagons for which I have given strong reasoning as to why they are good, whereas I have yet to see a compelling argument as to WHY you believe they are so bad (except that they are aimed at you and your scumbuddy)
and want a confirmable PR lynched
This actually is a decent point.
yet also want someone else to claim.
But you've refused to because everyone sucks but you.
Honestly I'd rather not lynch Void because of your point, I'd rather lynch you.
Do me a favor and actually look at my reads once my alignment is confirmed. I don't want a repeat of MM7 where I caught parinoid, whom Teia protected in a scummy way, I got mislynched, Teia got copped and lynched, and parinoid got to ride out an easy win because no one bothered to reread the game.
Except you've been playing pretty badly and that's saying a lot coming from me.
Sometimes the truth is harsh, and while I'm all for tact, I'm sick of being called scum for poor/no reasoning, especially by the experienced players.
This goes especially for wheat because his case on me is assuming I'm terrible at playing scum, which makes no sense because he nominated me for scum player of the year 2012.
And what are you talking about GM? Presenting my case tomorrow? I've been presenting my case all Day, and you're one of the people who has been ignoring it.
let us all bow down and worship this paragon of mafia grace, he is the best mafia player ever. how could be all be so wrong before. obviously we should follow him to prosperity.
tell us who the worst among us are so we can lynch them, o great master.
I'd rather Void than KK. I'm not too keen on either, but I feel stronger about Void due to his claim. Has KK claimed yet?
Nope.
I'm thinking I want to wait a (Real-Life) day or two before I vote Void for the Lynch. If I don't see a claim from KK, I might be inclined to change my vote from one to another.
Void: What is your ability? I'm not sure if I saw that, I only saw your three moves claim.
This goes especially for wheat because his case on me is assuming I'm terrible at playing scum, which makes no sense because he nominated me for scum player of the year 2012.
Oh, in case this part came off high-and-mighty (don't really care if the rest did), I have to add that I was flattered by Wheat's mention of me, but felt I didn't actually deserve it.
Just saying: disconnect between the case and the way wheat's treated me in the past.
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Leaning Scum:
rianalnn - Active lurking Day 1, not commenting on wagons except to opportunistically vote.
Gerrard's Mom - Gave a few of his scum tells earlier, but saying some pro-town things now. They're mostly just common sense going against the current mob-mentality, so I can't decide if he's deliberately doing it to get town points or I'm wrong about him.
Neutral:
BlackVise - The last paragraph of this post has me re-evaluating my read. The mob is convinced that both Void and I are scum, but he actually uses logic to come to a conclusion that helps the town.
kaburi - Not having very many original ideas, but its also only his second game ever, and he hasn't done anything obviously scummy.
Leaning Town:
Wheat_Grinder - I don't like anything he's done this game, but I'm not seeing a scummy mindset to his mistakes, plus he's an un-CCed vig who proved himself. The odds of him being a tough guy (or whatever that scum role that gets extra kills) seem pretty bad to me.
Void - His reads agree with mine, plus he's a confirmable PR claim.
Town:
Jay13x - Noob town. I've talked about this.
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Void: What is your ability? I'm not sure if I saw that, I only saw your three moves claim.
I'm confused by this question. Perhaps your getting your terminology mixed up? The abilitiy, or abilities in this case, are the ones listed in my claim. They are all one shot.
If this doesn't answer your question, then please rephrase it?
I'm confused by this question. Perhaps your getting your terminology mixed up? The abilitiy, or abilities in this case, are the ones listed in my claim. They are all one shot.
Ooooooooh. You are false-claiming aren't you?
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I'm confused by this question. Perhaps your getting your terminology mixed up? The abilitiy, or abilities in this case, are the ones listed in my claim. They are all one shot.
apparently we can't do that until the people get a claim from KK
The tone I'm reading this post with implies you're suggesting that getting a claim from KK is unimportant. Why is that? And if I'm misreading the tone of your post, where were you going with it?
Well, no, because while the point of getting someone to claim at L-2 is ultimately about avoiding mislynching PRs, the mechanism of discovery there is that we can see if there are any counterclaims. If a claim can't reasonably be counterclaimed, then it doesn't get quite the same free pass as something like my doc claim in MM6.
Yes, you've made it quite clear you're going to be useless this game, starting with shooting a player no one agreed with your read on before even getting his claim and continuing on through toDay where you join bad wagons and want a confirmable PR lynched, yet also want someone else to claim.
Do you ever intend to claim, or are you just going to keep slinging mud at people until we all get sick of trying to get blood from a stone?
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Void: What's the name and effect of your ability? This is distinct from your moves (which you just listed), as detailed in the OP.
Well, no, because while the point of getting someone to claim at L-2 is ultimately about avoiding mislynching PRs, the mechanism of discovery there is that we can see if there are any counterclaims. If a claim can't reasonably be counterclaimed, then it doesn't get quite the same free pass as something like my doc claim in MM6.
It's called testing the claim. It's what is suppose to be done when a PR is claimed rather than disbelieve the claim. KK already pointed this out.
So what's the name and effect of your ability, as distinct from your moves?
Okay, wtf am I not understanding here? Maybe this is because of how I make Role PM's as a Mod, but the ability is the Track/Watch/Vig or whatever action you have.
Someone please tell me what I am getting wrong here.
Like I said, check the OP. The listed example, Chimecho, has an ability (Levitate, in that case) and a move (Struggle, in that case). You're listing your moves. I want the name and effect of your ability.
I fully realize that this probably crosses the line into flavour gaming, but as far as Pokemon is concerned, Taunt is not an ability. It's a move. The OP example, hans' role, Arcadic's role, Iso's role, and my own role are all consistent in sticking to the games in that regard.
So first, KK, how can Void confirm his role? He can say he doctored someone other than the NK or tracked or roleblocked someone that didn't do anything with little chance of being wrong. The only possibility would be if the target got a notification or another role confirmed his action, and neither of those actually confirm his alignment. KK, would you rather we lynch you than Void?
Void - You said Iso thought you were town, and I see stuff about what Teia thought about Wheat. I don't see where you said anything specific about your reads on Iso and Wheat, unless the bit where you said "I was so shocked about hans that I no longer had any valid reads" was supposed to count for that. On second thought, preview edit, this line of questioning was supposed to test your claim and there's no way it is true, so forget about it.
Teia - I have tried to state several times that I see no point in pursuing a KK claim if we have the votes to lynch Void right now. My fault if that wasn't clear. KK claiming now has potential to hurt the town if he is actually a useful town PR, but we can always vote him to L-2 again if we still have reason to suspect him after flipping Void and seeing the Night 2 results.
The only reservation about not having KK claim now would be if you thought Void was town, and his botched fake claim should seal that.
For the record, Panpour's ability is either Gluttony or Torrent. Again, all the posted roles are game-accurate in terms of which Pokemon has what ability.
Teia - I have tried to state several times that I see no point in pursuing a KK claim if we have the votes to lynch Void right now. My fault if that wasn't clear. KK claiming now has potential to hurt the town if he is actually a useful town PR, but we can always vote him to L-2 again if we still have reason to suspect him after flipping Void and seeing the Night 2 results.
The only reservation about not having KK claim now would be if you thought Void was town, and his botched fake claim should seal that.
Yeah, Void listing a move as an ability when the pattern holds across five data points has convinced me his claim is fake. I'll drop the push for KK's claim on those grounds.
Teia beat me to it, but here's the Bulbapedia for Taunt. Clearly stated to be a move. Also, apparently Panpour can only get Protect by TM/HM, haven't checked the other PMs so far to see if that is inconsistent.
Teia beat me to it, but here's the Bulbapedia for Taunt. Clearly stated to be a move. Also, apparently Panpour can only get Protect by TM/HM, haven't checked the other PMs so far to see if that is inconsistent.
Gallade had Swagger, which it can only get from TM.
Entirely for noticing his claim stopped making sense.
He listed moves as abilities, when if he had 3 moves and no abilities, he should have had an obvious "This pokemon has no abilities" next to an ability name to remind him of the difference.
And its not like he posted this from memory: having 3 moves with different names, plus his pokemon name are too many things to remember easily.
This also means I'm probably wrong about Teia, since Void went after her right out of the gate.
So first, KK, how can Void confirm his role? He can say he doctored someone other than the NK or tracked or roleblocked someone that didn't do anything with little chance of being wrong. The only possibility would be if the target got a notification or another role confirmed his action, and neither of those actually confirm his alignment. KK, would you rather we lynch you than Void?
I would have preferred to be lynched first before I realized he was fake-claiming.
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@KK – why ignore my posts? I wasn't on your radar until I was pressuring you.
Your final post (where you announce you're going to bed) doesn't make any sense. You say you were disbelieving my meta read of Void with the one game as evidence, but you had just said you weren't trying to disprove my read of Void with the game. You also quote where I ask you what you meant by bringing up the point if not to try to prove my meta read wrong, and accuse me of playing dumb in my confusion when you've just said two conflicting statements. Maybe you can shed light on this.
Nice stonewall. Who exactly are you talking about here?
Thanks. All the players, including you, who want me to claim when they also want to lynch Void. Not sure who is who yet, but there was scum trying to push the town into helping them, I'm sure of it.
@Teia: What else do we need to talk about before we hammer?
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@KK – why ignore my posts? I wasn't on your radar until I was pressuring you.
Your final post (where you announce you're going to bed) doesn't make any sense. You say you were disbelieving my meta read of Void with the one game as evidence, but you had just said you weren't trying to disprove my read of Void with the game. You also quote where I ask you what you meant by bringing up the point if not to try to prove my meta read wrong, and accuse me of playing dumb in my confusion when you've just said two conflicting statements. Maybe you can shed light on this.
You can re-read the posts, quote them, & break them down. We've already seen your 'confusion' against a straightforward post of mine (the one where I voted Void).
Nice stonewall. Who exactly are you talking about here?
Thanks. All the players, including you, who want me to claim when they also want to lynch Void. Not sure who is who yet, but there was scum trying to push the town into helping them, I'm sure of it.
Players are not allowed to have more than one scumspect?
& you didn't explain who the newb-town being led are.
That is kind of a weird scum move, but it's good for the town. We now have a week to review the game with the knowledge that Void is scum before we go into night and lose someone.
Void, please provide a list of your buddies and who they plan to kill tonight
BV's point that KK wouldn't hardbarn a buddy's bad case had occurred to me, but I thought it was too WIFOM to be a legit point.
My immediate conclusions are to confirm that Jay and Wheat are town again. Since Void targeted Teia, I'd like to give her +town, but this does suffer from the same problem as BV's point about KK. I do think it is much more likely that scum KK could have given the case a passing and been cornered into fully supporting it than that Void would kick off Day 2 with a badly argued case on a scumbuddy. I think I will be looking for the other two scum among KK, BV, ria, and kaburi though.
I need to re-read to be sure but in CCMVI, I remember Void's townie play being lurky & distracting – basically what you just described as his scum meta.
This is me looking into Void's meta & seeing it null out what you are saying.
I wasn't trying to shatter your meta call with a sample size of 1.
suggests.
I have no idea what this bit means, you just say you looked into Void's meta and proved my read null, but saying you weren't trying to disprove my meta read is true at the same time? That doesn't make sense.
I need to re-read to be sure but in CCMVI, I remember Void's townie play being lurky & distracting – basically what you just described as his scum meta.
This is me looking into Void's meta & seeing it null out what you are saying.
I wasn't trying to shatter your meta call with a sample size of 1.
suggests.
I have no idea what this bit means, you just say you looked into Void's meta and proved my read null, but saying you weren't trying to disprove my meta read is true at the same time? That doesn't make sense.
Again, I wasn't trying to disprove it with 1 game. I was setting out that the game I had looked at so far did not agree with what you were saying.
& if you were actually looking into me, you'd see this
RobRoy, a MiseTings veteran, references it in February. Gandan doesn't ken, so RobRoy explains where the term comes from & how it applies to these games. Serendipitously, we see Void posting immediately before RR explains the term, then a few minutes afterwards. I'm skimming this game right now & to be fair, Void's posting looks a lot like this game. Megs calls him out for repeatedly doing things like the BV/Moms. Sticking this here for when I run out of things to do.
where I acknowledge that Void's posting there matches what you were saying, & I save that link so I can keep reading into his games so I'm not working with a sample size of 2.
Consider the conflict of interest in *you* putting this forward – 'player A (you) would almost never begin a bus wagon on player C (Void or Wheat)'. Somehow this self-serving rubbish is supposed to convince me Teia's behaviour is scummy.
Friendly advice because I may not remember to write it in the post game: Next time, don't claim JoaT, it will almost never stop your lynch.
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I'm trotting this out now that Void confirmed himself scum because it gives me such a strong smug feeling inside that makes me want to punch my own lights out.
I fully realize that this probably crosses the line into flavour gaming, but as far as Pokemon is concerned, Taunt is not an ability. It's a move. The OP example, hans' role, Arcadic's role, Iso's role, and my own role are all consistent in sticking to the games in that regard.
It seems extremely unlikely that you just happen to be a Jack of All Trades with three abilities that haven't been revealed yet in others (Although Hans could arguably have been a variant on 'tracker'). It seems like a strategy to get one of those roles to counterclaim so scummies can target that person at night.
I don't vote without thinking through exactly what I'm doing. And in this case, I'm ratcheting the pressure on you to see how you respond. Getting a claim out of you is just a bonus piece of information.
Trying to help reveal as many roles to the scum team as possible doesn't help the town. A smart town makes their decisions based on behavior analysis.
Meaning, if you want to lynch Void (which you shouldn't) the pro-town move is to lynch him, not give the scum team help narrowing down our remaining PRs. Understand?
Examples? I was confident calling Teia on this for a reason you know.
441 (Teia): "And you have no opinion on the counterarguments? "
442 (KK): "I haven't gotten the mental focus to slog through them yet"
444 (KK): No response to counterarguments.
446 (KK): Case on Teia rather than counterarguments.
So, if you didn't respond to the counterarguments there, where DID you respond to them?
First of all, since when is it my responsibility to defend Void from those bad arguments. Secondly, handwaving a case on yourself is so much more telling than handwaving a case on someone else. Third, how are those not responses? Just because meta isn't a convincing argument, it suddenly isn't one at all? How does that make any sense? And finally, I posted 446 at GM's request, not to interrupt Teia. You'll notice that I continue to talk about the case on Void and his meta for many posts after.
@rian: What was the point of bringing up a town-Void game where you felt he didn't fit into my meta read of him?
That post looks even more scummy with Void outing himself. So, where's that claim, KK? We're still waiting.
EWP: 'nathed, as usual. It seems to me my lot in life.
@Teia: What else do we need to talk about before we hammer?
We have a relatively rare opportunity of knowing a player is scum without having to lynch them and see how they flip, so we can continue analysis of days 1 and 2 without losing a townie overnight. In other words, we have a greater amount of information at our disposal than we otherwise would have if we lynched Void right now, so I think we should make use of it, especially given that there are ongoing lines of questioning.
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I'm not sure why Wheat called BV town - he made a meandering argument that made no sense and gave up in the end. What's town about that?
KK, I don't think you're getting lynched today, so I imagine you can present your case tomorrow, but if you really want us to look at your reads, can you provide an updated T/S list?
ria, when did KK call Void "terrible?"
Hey I forgot that I asked this but there was a reason for it, answer plz Void
This goes especially for wheat because his case on me is assuming I'm terrible at playing scum, which makes no sense because he nominated me for scum player of the year 2012.
And what are you talking about GM? Presenting my case tomorrow? I've been presenting my case all Day, and you're one of the people who has been ignoring it.
lol
Which I acknowledged was a mistake and is based partly on a pathological need to catch scum!Iso and thus will not affect my play for the rest of the game.
Wagons for which I have given strong reasoning as to why they are good, whereas I have yet to see a compelling argument as to WHY you believe they are so bad (except that they are aimed at you and your scumbuddy)
This actually is a decent point.
But you've refused to because everyone sucks but you.
Honestly I'd rather not lynch Void because of your point, I'd rather lynch you.
Except you've been playing pretty badly and that's saying a lot coming from me.
He's attempting to find scum on his own and stuck to his guns.
let us all bow down and worship this paragon of mafia grace, he is the best mafia player ever. how could be all be so wrong before. obviously we should follow him to prosperity.
tell us who the worst among us are so we can lynch them, o great master.
About time you recognized me.
Everybody should vote for the king.
I'm thinking I want to wait a (Real-Life) day or two before I vote Void for the Lynch. If I don't see a claim from KK, I might be inclined to change my vote from one to another.
Void: What is your ability? I'm not sure if I saw that, I only saw your three moves claim.
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Just saying: disconnect between the case and the way wheat's treated me in the past.
Teia Rabishu - I've said why all Day.
Leaning Scum:
rianalnn - Active lurking Day 1, not commenting on wagons except to opportunistically vote.
Gerrard's Mom - Gave a few of his scum tells earlier, but saying some pro-town things now. They're mostly just common sense going against the current mob-mentality, so I can't decide if he's deliberately doing it to get town points or I'm wrong about him.
Neutral:
BlackVise - The last paragraph of this post has me re-evaluating my read. The mob is convinced that both Void and I are scum, but he actually uses logic to come to a conclusion that helps the town.
kaburi - Not having very many original ideas, but its also only his second game ever, and he hasn't done anything obviously scummy.
Leaning Town:
Wheat_Grinder - I don't like anything he's done this game, but I'm not seeing a scummy mindset to his mistakes, plus he's an un-CCed vig who proved himself. The odds of him being a tough guy (or whatever that scum role that gets extra kills) seem pretty bad to me.
Void - His reads agree with mine, plus he's a confirmable PR claim.
Town:
Jay13x - Noob town. I've talked about this.
I will when you start reading the thread. I answered your previous question not once, but twice to two different players. Find it yourself.
I'm confused by this question. Perhaps your getting your terminology mixed up? The abilitiy, or abilities in this case, are the ones listed in my claim. They are all one shot.
If this doesn't answer your question, then please rephrase it?
Please explain this logic jump for me.
You're going to need to explain more than this, because I am still lost.
The tone I'm reading this post with implies you're suggesting that getting a claim from KK is unimportant. Why is that? And if I'm misreading the tone of your post, where were you going with it?
Well, no, because while the point of getting someone to claim at L-2 is ultimately about avoiding mislynching PRs, the mechanism of discovery there is that we can see if there are any counterclaims. If a claim can't reasonably be counterclaimed, then it doesn't get quite the same free pass as something like my doc claim in MM6.
Do you ever intend to claim, or are you just going to keep slinging mud at people until we all get sick of trying to get blood from a stone?
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Void: What's the name and effect of your ability? This is distinct from your moves (which you just listed), as detailed in the OP.
It's called testing the claim. It's what is suppose to be done when a PR is claimed rather than disbelieve the claim. KK already pointed this out.
Still waiting KK.
Okay, wtf am I not understanding here? Maybe this is because of how I make Role PM's as a Mod, but the ability is the Track/Watch/Vig or whatever action you have.
Someone please tell me what I am getting wrong here.
Taunt and it does nothing.
We've got ourselves a fakeclaim.
Void -
You said Iso thought you were town, and I see stuff about what Teia thought about Wheat. I don't see where you said anything specific about your reads on Iso and Wheat, unless the bit where you said "I was so shocked about hans that I no longer had any valid reads" was supposed to count for that.On second thought, preview edit, this line of questioning was supposed to test your claim and there's no way it is true, so forget about it.Teia - I have tried to state several times that I see no point in pursuing a KK claim if we have the votes to lynch Void right now. My fault if that wasn't clear. KK claiming now has potential to hurt the town if he is actually a useful town PR, but we can always vote him to L-2 again if we still have reason to suspect him after flipping Void and seeing the Night 2 results.
The only reservation about not having KK claim now would be if you thought Void was town, and his botched fake claim should seal that.
Yeah, Void listing a move as an ability when the pattern holds across five data points has convinced me his claim is fake. I'll drop the push for KK's claim on those grounds.
Gallade had Swagger, which it can only get from TM.
Ok Teia, I only know what a TM/HM is because I had to translate bug reports for Black 2/White 2. Might get X or Y if I have a 3DS by then though.
In conclusion, you should all buy Nintendo products if you think Void is scum
He listed moves as abilities, when if he had 3 moves and no abilities, he should have had an obvious "This pokemon has no abilities" next to an ability name to remind him of the difference.
And its not like he posted this from memory: having 3 moves with different names, plus his pokemon name are too many things to remember easily.
This also means I'm probably wrong about Teia, since Void went after her right out of the gate.
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I would have preferred to be lynched first before I realized he was fake-claiming.
@Moms – what do you mean, when? KK's whole read on Void until now has been 'he's terrible town/bad a arguing'. Claiming too, apparently
@KK – why ignore my posts? I wasn't on your radar until I was pressuring you. Nice stonewall. Who exactly are you talking about here?
Flavor gaming is Flavor gaming, but it's hard to fight when it is accurate. I knew my claim would be my down fall this game.
Go Scum Team!
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Lynch me when you guys are ready too. It was fun.
Let's not have any quicklynches. Once we're ready, we'll lynch Void. Until then, let's make good use of our time.
Thanks. All the players, including you, who want me to claim when they also want to lynch Void. Not sure who is who yet, but there was scum trying to push the town into helping them, I'm sure of it.
@Teia: What else do we need to talk about before we hammer?
Players are not allowed to have more than one scumspect?
& you didn't explain who the newb-town being led are.
Void, please provide a list of your buddies and who they plan to kill tonight
BV's point that KK wouldn't hardbarn a buddy's bad case had occurred to me, but I thought it was too WIFOM to be a legit point.
My immediate conclusions are to confirm that Jay and Wheat are town again. Since Void targeted Teia, I'd like to give her +town, but this does suffer from the same problem as BV's point about KK. I do think it is much more likely that scum KK could have given the case a passing and been cornered into fully supporting it than that Void would kick off Day 2 with a badly argued case on a scumbuddy. I think I will be looking for the other two scum among KK, BV, ria, and kaburi though.
And then you say you actually are using it as a basis to disagree with my meta read of Void:
I have no idea what this bit means, you just say you looked into Void's meta and proved my read null, but saying you weren't trying to disprove my meta read is true at the same time? That doesn't make sense.
Then you accuse me of playing dumb.
So what's the deal Ria? Am I scum because you flip-flopped on whether you were trying to disprove my meta read of Void or what?
If anyone else thinks this me "clearly" saying I'm not investigating KK's meta read, raise your hand.
Again, I wasn't trying to disprove it with 1 game. I was setting out that the game I had looked at so far did not agree with what you were saying.
& if you were actually looking into me, you'd see this where I acknowledge that Void's posting there matches what you were saying, & I save that link so I can keep reading into his games so I'm not working with a sample size of 2.
You are playing dumb, exactly like Void has been. You haven't addressed this which you have ignored once & subsequently quote snipped, despite asking me to show you why, nor have you responded to the points against you I raised here.
You are doing exactly what you facehumped Teia for.
Friendly advice because I may not remember to write it in the post game: Next time, don't claim JoaT, it will almost never stop your lynch.
I'm trotting this out now that Void confirmed himself scum because it gives me such a strong smug feeling inside that makes me want to punch my own lights out.
So who is our second highest suspect? KK, I think it's time for your claim, buddy.
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I should go out more often; it's apparently my best scum-catching tool.
That post looks even more scummy with Void outing himself. So, where's that claim, KK? We're still waiting.
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We have a relatively rare opportunity of knowing a player is scum without having to lynch them and see how they flip, so we can continue analysis of days 1 and 2 without losing a townie overnight. In other words, we have a greater amount of information at our disposal than we otherwise would have if we lynched Void right now, so I think we should make use of it, especially given that there are ongoing lines of questioning.